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What's Inside:
• 60 page hardcover Smyth-Sewn book featuring essays by Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, and Blair Jackson and photos by Jim Anderson & Mike Laurentis
• 25th Anniversary Tour Program
• Official Band Letters
• 6 Ticket Stubs
• 6 Cloth Sticker Backstage Passes
• 1 Tour Laminate
• Official 1990 Band publicity shot
• 6 complete shows on 18 discs
      • 3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
      • 3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      • 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
      • 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      • 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      • 4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA

Box Dimensions: 12-1/8" x 3-1/8" x 12-1/8"
Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD
Original art by Wes Lang
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Introducing The Next Box: Spring 1990!

And now for something a little different. This year's box set - Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 - offers six complete shows from the epic spring '90 tour, one concert from each city the band played, personally selected by Dead vaultmeister and archival release producer David Lemieux. The sizzling six are: 3/16/90 Capital Centre (Landover , MD), 3/19/90 Hartford Civic Center, 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, Ontario), 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena (Albany, NY), 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY) and 4/2/90 The Omni (Atlanta, GA).

In his "Producer's Note" in the beautiful book that is part of the box, Lemieux, who attended the first 10 shows on the tour, states, "To my ears this was the last tour that was consistently great, where every show is excellent, not a dud in the bunch." And Grateful Dead historian Dennis McNally's comprehensive and informative insider's essay in the box is titled "The Last Great Dead Tour." These guys know what they're talking about.

Basically, the band had been on an upward trajectory since Garcia's return to the road in the spring of '87, following his near-death the previous summer. Of course, 1987 was a trip in itself, what with the unexpected mega-success of In the Dark and their first hit single, "Touch of Grey." But the momentum just kept building with each subsequent tour, as Garcia got back up to full speed (and then some!) and the group as a whole was as unified as they had ever been since Brent joined the band in the spring of '79. New original tunes were popping up and the old favorites were imbued with a freshness and spirit that was so uplifting and inspiring. The band was having fun again, and it was downright infectious.

The group's fall 1989 shows-as documented two years ago on the Formerly the Warlocks box (two shows from Hampton, VA, 10/8-9/89) and on the 2001 release Nightfall of Diamonds (a single night in NJ, 10/16/89)- kicked the energy level up another couple of notches, as the band reintroduced such loved classics as "Help on the Way" > "Slipknot!," "Attics of My Life," "Death Don't Have No Mercy" and "Dark Star."

And when the band hit the road in mid-March 1990, they had a bunch of other cool tunes to lay on their unsuspecting crowds, including the return of "Loose Lucy" (last played in 1974; it's not on this box), Brent's "Easy to Love You" (missing since 1980), a rollicking cover of the Rolling Stones' "The Last Time," The Band's "The Weight" (with all four singers taking a verse each) and a lyrically retooled "Black-Throated Wind" (absent since 1974), which elicited huge cheers every time it was played.

Over these six shows, most of the cornerstones of the Dead's repertoire from the era appear-splendid versions of "Scarlet Begonias" > "Fire on the Mountain," "China Cat Sunflower" > "I Know You Rider," "Playing in the Band," "Uncle John's Band," "Eyes of the World," "Estimated Prophet," "Truckin'," "Sugar Magnolia," "The Other One," "Terrapin," "Stella Blue," "Feel Like a Stranger," "Bird Song," "Let It Grow," "China Doll," "Box of Rain," "Morning Dew"; you name it. From the fall '89 breakouts come "Help-Slip-Frank," "Attics of My Life" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Among the still newish tunes are "Picasso Moon," "Blow Away," "Foolish Heart," "Just a Little Light," "Victim or the Crime," "Standing on the Moon," "We Can Run" and a couple that would get their final plays from the Grateful Dead on this tour-"Built to Last" and "Believe It or Not." There are stirring renditions of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" and "Black Muddy River," rockin' takes on "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "Iko Iko" and the only version of the full "Hey Jude" the band attempted in the modern era. And the "Rhythm Devils" and "Space" jams at the heart of each second set are as noisy-beautiful-scary-funny-intense-mysterious-wild as you'd expect/hope for.

Of course, we understand that some of you may have other favorite shows from this tour you wish were included on this box. Really, you can't go wrong with any of them. But at 18 discs, this is still the second largest Grateful Dead box (after Europe '72: The Complete Recordings) that's been released, and the non-inclusion of any other shows from the tour definitely does not preclude their future release! But this seemed like a more manageable way to go, while still giving a sense of the tour's amazing depth and breadth.

Besides the discs themselves, Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 has much to offer, including: a gorgeous 60-page hardcover book containing copious color photos by Jim Anderson and Michael Laurentus, unique artwork by Brooklyn-based fine artist Wes Lang, fascinating business letters and communications related to the tour, a detailed historical essay by Dennis McNally, a Producer's Note by David Lemieux and individual show descriptions by Blair Jackson; a reproduction of the Dead's 1990 tour program (printed and sold later in '90, for the fall and Europe '90 tours); tickets and backstage passes of all six shows; a band publicity photo from 1990 by Ken Friedman; Dennis McNally's tour laminate; and reproductions of the colored 8x10 sheets GDTS sent out with hotel, food and other information for each city on the tour.

With recordings made by longtime Grateful Dead recordist and producer John Cutler, mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD, you just know it's gonna sound great-and it does!

So, that's the skinny this time 'round. This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically. Due to ship out August 31st, we anticipate that this extraordinary set will sell-out, so order your copy today!

If you're looking for more of a bite-sized taste of the '90s, Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It, a 2-CD set featuring a handful of favorites, will be in stores on September 18th.

-Blair Jackson

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August 4, 2012 - 6:24am

#941

Zuckfun

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Words from the Vault

The following is an excerpt from an interview with David Lemieux: So Nightfall of Diamonds was recorded on multi-track. Is that because they were recording shows for what would become Without a Net? Absolutely. That’s what happened with that one. Certain times and tours and runs of shows were recorded multi-track with the intention of producing an album from them, and fortunately in the case of Without a Net, the Dead happened to be playing really well those three tours. So we’ve got multi-tracks for Without a Net, Downhill From Here, Dozin’ at the Knick, Terrapin Limited, and Nightfall of Diamonds. So that pattern is pretty much what we’re still following, and that goes for a few reasons. One, we don’t have very much multi-track, and what we do have is worth mixing to make proper albums out of, and at the same time, it takes so long to mix a multi-track down to two-track it wouldn’t really be feasible. A two-track release generally takes about four weeks to do and a multi-track takes about eight weeks. Read more: Interview from the Vault - A Conversation with David Lemieux (Part Three) http://www.musicbox-online.com/dl-vault3.html#ixzz22aEUGRMq
August 4, 2012 - 5:55am

#942

Zuckfun

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Sonic Paradise

To the best of my knowledge, the Spring of 1990, along with the latter half of 1989, was recorded on multi-track tapes. This is a new mix, with every effort to make it sound as great as possible. Listening to The Warlocks Box, the sonic glory of multi-track material reveals itself like a flash of audio lightning.
August 4, 2012 - 5:40am

#943

simonrob

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Multi-tracks ?

I have not researched this exhaustively, but as far as I can make out of what has beeh officially released from this period, only "The Warlocks" box was definitely taken from 24 tr. tapes. All other official releases from this period were taken from 2 tr. tapes or the source is indeterminate. Were the 24 tr. tapes recorded by Arista for "Without a net" and remain the property of Arista and the vault only has the 2 tr. tapes? I have no idea. If these recordings were taken from the 24 tr. tapes, I would expect that to be mentioned in the marketing blurb to talk-up this release. As there is no specific mention of which set of tapes was used, I would guess that the 2 tr. tapes were used. I hope clarification is forthcoming and that it turns out that the 24 tr. tapes were available and were used here. However, I expect that the sound quality on this release will be just fine otherwise they would not be releasing such a lavish production.
August 4, 2012 - 5:07am

#944

One Man

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2-Track Source

"Recorded and mixed live by John Cutler" means live-to-2-track to me, which means the multi-track tapes are gathering dust in the vault. There is some chance these mixes will sound relatively okay, but there is no way they could compare to a careful mix from multi-track, because Cutler had his hands full during the shows and this 2-track tape was an afterthought. It's probably just the house mix. I just hate that the better audio source was ignored. Production cost would have been higher, but isn't it more important that the best sound arrives at the listeners' ears?
August 4, 2012 - 4:57am

#945

highthyme

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I'm sure nobody is getting rich here, but

9000 sets at $200 each is not $180,000. It's $1.8 million. Meanwhile, I too would like to know if these are indeed mastered from the 24-track tapes, or if they're taken from Cutler's 2-tracks as Terrapin Limited was in order to avoid conflict with Arista's release of Althea on Without A Net.
August 3, 2012 - 11:59pm

#946

SPACEBROTHER

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2 disc track sources...

They played LTGTR twice on that tour, 3/16 and 3/24. To try and narrow down where the songs are from... LTGTR - either 3/16 or 3/24 Stranger - most likely 3/22 but could be 4/2 West LA - 3/22 Easy To Love You - lely 3/22 BIODTL - 3/22 Loser - 3/24 All Over Now - 3/19 or 3/30 Jack-a-Roe - 3/19 Last Time - 3/16 or 3/22 or 4/2 Bird Song - 3/16 Blow Away - most likely 3/16 as the other version from 3/26 is already on Dozin' At The Knick Samson and Delilah - 3/22 Scarlet>Estimated - 3/16 Playin>Eyes - 3/19 Gimme Some Lovin' - 3/26 Dew - 3/26 NFA - 3/30 Attics - 3/30 The more I think about this release, the more I feel that this is by far the best release they have put together yet. I love the E72 box, but these will be in my listening rotation far more. My little Spring '90 story... A friend of mine and I sent out for mail order tickets for Knickerbocker and tried to order by phone but got shut out. Our determinatiuon not-with-standing to see the Dead on this tour because Spring '89 was such a blast, we decided to order tickets over the phone for the Omni when they went on sale. We scored decent Brent/Jerry stage right side seats for the first two nights and behind the stage for the last night. The last Dead show I attended before this run was at Alpine Valley 7/18 (yup, the unfortunately as-of-yet unreleased show screened at movie theatre, which I missed :( ... ), and it was the last time I attended a show where onsight overnight camping and vending still ran rampant. Upon arrival for the first show, we parked in a ramp across the street from the CNN center and home of the Omni. Our first observation was that there was very little vending or obvious camping, which was sort of an expected shock. The shock I didn't expect was hearing about what transpired for the past few day at Nassau. At that point I figured there would be no real suprises, but it was April Fools. Who knows? As things would be, the first night was a great solid show all around. Everything played exceptionally well and the band was fully warmed up. By the second night of the run, which is the one included in this set, we happened to have the great fortune of not only finding out that a freightyard lot behind the CNN Center was opened for Deadheads to camp and vend, despite the rules posted by the band, but by chance, we had even better fortune! Before the show, we pretty much hung out in the makeshift freightyard fteak village were parked near some folks who were taping shows from the tour and rocking recordings from the first night. By this point, I had been going to Grateful Dead concerts for several years already but really only had a vague knowledge of tape trading. As it turned out, after an awesome second show, we headed back to the lot to enjoy the afterglow and chill for a bit before heading to the hotel. Shortly after we arrived back to the car, and having pulled out a couple of lawn chairs and a beverage or three, a brother who appeared to be a little distressed from his out of body experience caught our attention. He decided to approach us as we hung out and told us he had lost track of where his buddies were and asked if he couild hang out with us in case they turned up. We of course said "sure" and he proceeded to tell us that he and his traveling companions were taping the whole tour.By chance, we just so happened to have a stand alone cassette deck with us that he could burn copies to from his rig, and offered him to stay with us, burn tapes from the tour and just drool at the mini goldmine this guy was lugging around with him.We were able to make copies of everything except Nassau and Hartford, including the first and second nights at the Omni. The next day and the third show, we went to the same lot and the taper we met immediately hooked up with his buddies. He was grateful for the place to stay and we were blessed with pristine 1st gen recordings of almost the entire tour. We exchanged contact info with the taper guy from Pennsylvania and he sent us the rest of the tour promptly. This was the first time in my life I had ever recieved a tape of a concert I had attended right after a show, and it was the whole Spring '90 tour! Of course, this experience created a monster. About two or three weeks later, we had invested in the first of many portable recorders and proceeded to push the bounderies of who, what and where we recorded live concerts. What a learning experience THAT whole process was... Of course, there were many other great memories I have from that '90 Omni adventure. I feel very fortunate to have had the opportunity to see the Grateful Dead on what I consider to be one of the top two or three tours they ever played. I happen to like apples and oranges. Ultimately, good karma reaps great rewards, and that was our turn to pay it forward and vice/versa. Only at a Grateful Dead concert...
August 3, 2012 - 8:27pm

#947

Little Ben Clock

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Dates for tracks on 2-disc version?

Is there any information on the dates for the tracks in the 2-disc version? So far I've gathered it must be as below but I can't find a LTGTR> Stranger anywhere in the fun. Perhaps there will be some very creative edits on the segues. Anyway, if someone can point out where all these tracks come from, I'd be much obliged. For what it's worth, I'm not interested enough in this era to go for the boxset (and it will be the first Dead release I haven't gone for in years, regardless of the era) so I appreciate that the 2-disc set is going to be available. Let The Good Times Roll> [??] Feel Like A Stranger [??] West L.A. Fadeaway [??] Easy To Love You [??] Beat It On Down The Line [??] Loser [24th] It’s All Over Now> [??] Jack-A-Roe [??] The Last Time [??] Bird Song [??] Blow Away [??] --- Samson And Delilah [??] Scarlet Begonias> [16th] Estimated Prophet> [16th] Playing In The Band> [19th] Eyes Of The World [19th] Gimme Some Lovin’> [26th] Morning Dew [26th] Not Fade Away [??] Attics Of My Life [??]
August 3, 2012 - 8:26pm

#948

fluffanutter

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Not just Wes, LedMan

No, many people are getting paid for their work. Here is a short list: John Cutler; David Lemieux; Blair Jackson; Wes Lang; Jeffrey Norman. Then there is all the production costs of the box, jewel trays, doo-dads, and the discs themselves (Lets hope they went first-class on the actual discs this time). All of that has to be taken out of only $180,000. Then there is the attendant vendor for special customer service. So, no, nobody is getting rich. I imagine the royalties going to band members is quite small. They truly are putting the music out there for the fans and that is admirable. Deadheads just love to complain about everything. It is the one thing you can be sure about when there is a new release. I wouldn't have it any other way. What gets me though is the people who hate the complainers. Imagine two heads on one body -- a complainer and a complimenter, always fighting with each other! LMAO!
August 3, 2012 - 7:21pm

#949

fourwindsblow

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Are these from the multi-track recordings?

"Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler" Which is why they sound so good.
August 3, 2012 - 6:53pm

#950

snafu

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Bummer

When everything else looks so good why did they have to use jewell cases. Will they replace the scratched discs that will be so prevelent. Oh well they'll just have to learn from their mistakes.

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What's Inside:
• 60 page hardcover Smyth-Sewn book featuring essays by Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, and Blair Jackson and photos by Jim Anderson & Mike Laurentis
• 25th Anniversary Tour Program
• Official Band Letters
• 6 Ticket Stubs
• 6 Cloth Sticker Backstage Passes
• 1 Tour Laminate
• Official 1990 Band publicity shot
• 6 complete shows on 18 discs
      • 3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
      • 3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      • 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
      • 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      • 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      • 4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA

Box Dimensions: 12-1/8" x 3-1/8" x 12-1/8"
Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD
Original art by Wes Lang
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Introducing The Next Box: Spring 1990!

And now for something a little different. This year's box set - Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 - offers six complete shows from the epic spring '90 tour, one concert from each city the band played, personally selected by Dead vaultmeister and archival release producer David Lemieux. The sizzling six are: 3/16/90 Capital Centre (Landover , MD), 3/19/90 Hartford Civic Center, 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, Ontario), 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena (Albany, NY), 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY) and 4/2/90 The Omni (Atlanta, GA).

In his "Producer's Note" in the beautiful book that is part of the box, Lemieux, who attended the first 10 shows on the tour, states, "To my ears this was the last tour that was consistently great, where every show is excellent, not a dud in the bunch." And Grateful Dead historian Dennis McNally's comprehensive and informative insider's essay in the box is titled "The Last Great Dead Tour." These guys know what they're talking about.

Basically, the band had been on an upward trajectory since Garcia's return to the road in the spring of '87, following his near-death the previous summer. Of course, 1987 was a trip in itself, what with the unexpected mega-success of In the Dark and their first hit single, "Touch of Grey." But the momentum just kept building with each subsequent tour, as Garcia got back up to full speed (and then some!) and the group as a whole was as unified as they had ever been since Brent joined the band in the spring of '79. New original tunes were popping up and the old favorites were imbued with a freshness and spirit that was so uplifting and inspiring. The band was having fun again, and it was downright infectious.

The group's fall 1989 shows-as documented two years ago on the Formerly the Warlocks box (two shows from Hampton, VA, 10/8-9/89) and on the 2001 release Nightfall of Diamonds (a single night in NJ, 10/16/89)- kicked the energy level up another couple of notches, as the band reintroduced such loved classics as "Help on the Way" > "Slipknot!," "Attics of My Life," "Death Don't Have No Mercy" and "Dark Star."

And when the band hit the road in mid-March 1990, they had a bunch of other cool tunes to lay on their unsuspecting crowds, including the return of "Loose Lucy" (last played in 1974; it's not on this box), Brent's "Easy to Love You" (missing since 1980), a rollicking cover of the Rolling Stones' "The Last Time," The Band's "The Weight" (with all four singers taking a verse each) and a lyrically retooled "Black-Throated Wind" (absent since 1974), which elicited huge cheers every time it was played.

Over these six shows, most of the cornerstones of the Dead's repertoire from the era appear-splendid versions of "Scarlet Begonias" > "Fire on the Mountain," "China Cat Sunflower" > "I Know You Rider," "Playing in the Band," "Uncle John's Band," "Eyes of the World," "Estimated Prophet," "Truckin'," "Sugar Magnolia," "The Other One," "Terrapin," "Stella Blue," "Feel Like a Stranger," "Bird Song," "Let It Grow," "China Doll," "Box of Rain," "Morning Dew"; you name it. From the fall '89 breakouts come "Help-Slip-Frank," "Attics of My Life" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Among the still newish tunes are "Picasso Moon," "Blow Away," "Foolish Heart," "Just a Little Light," "Victim or the Crime," "Standing on the Moon," "We Can Run" and a couple that would get their final plays from the Grateful Dead on this tour-"Built to Last" and "Believe It or Not." There are stirring renditions of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" and "Black Muddy River," rockin' takes on "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "Iko Iko" and the only version of the full "Hey Jude" the band attempted in the modern era. And the "Rhythm Devils" and "Space" jams at the heart of each second set are as noisy-beautiful-scary-funny-intense-mysterious-wild as you'd expect/hope for.

Of course, we understand that some of you may have other favorite shows from this tour you wish were included on this box. Really, you can't go wrong with any of them. But at 18 discs, this is still the second largest Grateful Dead box (after Europe '72: The Complete Recordings) that's been released, and the non-inclusion of any other shows from the tour definitely does not preclude their future release! But this seemed like a more manageable way to go, while still giving a sense of the tour's amazing depth and breadth.

Besides the discs themselves, Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 has much to offer, including: a gorgeous 60-page hardcover book containing copious color photos by Jim Anderson and Michael Laurentus, unique artwork by Brooklyn-based fine artist Wes Lang, fascinating business letters and communications related to the tour, a detailed historical essay by Dennis McNally, a Producer's Note by David Lemieux and individual show descriptions by Blair Jackson; a reproduction of the Dead's 1990 tour program (printed and sold later in '90, for the fall and Europe '90 tours); tickets and backstage passes of all six shows; a band publicity photo from 1990 by Ken Friedman; Dennis McNally's tour laminate; and reproductions of the colored 8x10 sheets GDTS sent out with hotel, food and other information for each city on the tour.

With recordings made by longtime Grateful Dead recordist and producer John Cutler, mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD, you just know it's gonna sound great-and it does!

So, that's the skinny this time 'round. This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically. Due to ship out August 31st, we anticipate that this extraordinary set will sell-out, so order your copy today!

If you're looking for more of a bite-sized taste of the '90s, Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It, a 2-CD set featuring a handful of favorites, will be in stores on September 18th.

-Blair Jackson

iTunes

Just drag the whole folder on top of your iTunes icon. The show should show up there, in order.

Spring tour 1990 box set

Thank you David Lemieux and everyone involved in this awesome box set!!!

Spring tour 1990 box set

Thank you David Lemieux and everyone involved in this awesome box set!!!

Spring tour 1990 box set

Thank you David Lemieux and everyone involved in this awesome box set!!!

Just as long as you are there

There is a lot that can be said about this or that band member's contribution, how good this show was compared to that show, which show that people who are really in the know like (oh, you like THAT show?)... But in my limited experience: These shows are a blast! It doesn't matter if you were there or not, you can feel it in these recordings. Church is in session and Jerry and the Boyz bring us to our knees. (And if you were there, what a memory, eh?) My recommendation is to follow the advice of Obi Wan Kenobi: "Let go your conscious self, and act on instinct." These shows have what you want, and you can believe it if you need it. Share and Enjoy!

...............

Words of wisdom Lloyd, words of wisdom

iTunes

Thanks One Man. I'll try that next time.

Fantastic

Great job. Beautiful set.

hello

can i get some EUGENE please and not so pretencious that its all EAST coast, the woods and tree forts live , peace

hello

can i get some EUGENE please and not so pretencious that its all EAST coast, the woods and tree forts live , peace

Makes me wonder

If your box set is like mine, have you noticed how difficult it is to remove the discs the first time? I know that it is always hard with this type of package, but yikes, for this box it is difficult not to crack them!

Beautiful Package

I watched the package unveiling and it is a very well done Box set, looks sturdy, the cd covers are just like the ones I like, with the plastic CD holders, and nice books ,pictures and laminates. Good Job Rhino.JIm

Hi

The Set looks very nice with everything done well, I hope everyone is happy with their setsJim

90 box-set

My box arrived this morning in France with French post via Germany.Nice box with a defective CD: 3.22.90 Hamilton CD1 cracked in the middle. so I need a replacement disc.

anyone have any tips?

Looking for an easy way to remove the discs without breaking them. They're in tighter than a blank blank with a blank.

virginal discs

Phew...thought it was just my set that should have come with a tube of KY! But, once they're out, it's all good - no longer a tight fit (intone Michael Scott, "that's what she said...")...actually, any way you try to describe the removal process pretty much sounds like blatant sexual inuendo WOOT pried it, rotated it, talked gently, took deep breaths

Tip...

Perhaps this was already tried, though it sometimes helps to press down on the center 'teeth' (gently) while lifting the disc.

What's with the mix?

I just (finally) got my box today in France. I'm really stunned by the mix; Brent's tinkly-tink keyboard is very loud and distracting. At times it's louder than the voices, or than Jerry's guitars. What gives? Frankly, I'm not a big fan of late Dead, but this is simply appalling. I think I'll be putting my box up for sale on Ebay.

Numbering

By the way, I ordered on the very first day, and I got #8477. No big deal, but I'd have expected the numbers to go out roughly in order of purchase...

Live to 2-Track Mix

True, the mix is unbalanced at times. I'm surprised it's as good as it is, considering no budget was dedicated to mixing from the available multi-track tapes. If you are bothered by the loud keys -- and this solution is counterintuitive -- try turning up the overall volume until the things you want to focus on are loud enough to satisfy. Yes, the keys will also get louder, but it may be easier to listen "past" them if you can adjust your brain a little to grab more Garcia or whatever you want more of. Good luck!

Mix and Numbers

kirkmc, I think the mix varies show to show. At least that's been my impression (though I haven't directly compared them). 3/16 and 3/19 seemed more Brent-heavy to me, but maybe that's just because I was getting used to him. By the way, you should give 4-2 a spin before putting anything on Ebay. Also, the same thing happened to me with the numbering.

Seriously,

if you're gonna sell one of the best produced box sets ever because the keys are a touch overwhelming at times, you might as well sell Dick's Picks 6 because the drums can be distractingly loud, or Dave's Picks 2 because Donna's howls are...well, they're Donna's howls.

Got my box set!

Please disregard my request for help.Apparently, while I was being told they couldnt ship because ofbackordered tshirt, both were already shipped! Got them today and all is well. Sorry to bother you. JohnL (order 8888313)

The Mix

Kirkmc - Not sure I get it... the Dead's standard 89/90 "mix" is fairly well represented on these discs, and you confess to being no fan of the era. So why buy this box? (IMO, compared to the outrageously up-front keyboard onslaught of Vince+Bruce, early '90 sounds pretty dern good. Of course, the two-keyboard configuration was designed to cover deficiencies in another area, but I digress!)

How to loosen those virgin discs

I have a solution for removing the tight discs the first time without breaking them, but as previously noted it is difficult to describe the technique without sounding sexual, sorry. First, you need a screwdriver. Most men have one of these, but the longer it is the better and I know this might present a problem for some. Second, slide that thing underneath the disc all way in to the g-spot and lift until you achieve the desired release. I'm referring to the center gimbal hole of the disc where the center "teeth" hold it. BUT WAIT! Don't be premature and blow it, you fool. You need some protection so that you do not scratch the delicate membrane as you go in. I use a piece of medium weight paper card stock, about 4" x 4" in size (that's about 10 cm for you backward Euroheads). Slide the paper in first and then insert the screwdriver (or similar instrument) under that so there is no contact with the disc. Pry upward at the center point and the disc pops off free and clear! Now that you know this, I don't want to hear any more reports of cracked discs. ; )

Missing Disc 1 for 3/19/90

Instead of getting disc 1 for 3/19/90 I got an extra disc 1 for 3/22/90............they said they would mail me disc 1 for 3/19/90.......it has been two weeks so far. I just hope they live up to their word.

The next big box

I can't complain with the S90 box it has been a real pleasure to listen to. I think maybe a good idea for a future release would be a group of shows from one venue over several different years. I'd love to have an Alpine Valley box with 20 shows during the 80's to choose from. You could make a great box set out of that! and throw in some video. Or maybe shows from one city. A Philly box? Chicago Box? How good would shows from the Electric the Auditorium theatre (DaP3), The Uptown, the UIC pavilion (there's a great radio broadcast show from that run.) The Horizon and Soldier Field be? And all in one box covering 68' through 95'. Just thoughts and wishes. Keep the music coming!

Springbox 1990

My box was supposed to have been sent on 23 August to the UK. However, no sign of it. Parcelforce also has no sign of it. Is anyone else in the UK still waiting?

Re:Springbox 1990

Actually no-one has got the S90 box in the UK yet. Boxes have turned up in France, Italy, Germany and Sweden over the last few days but nothing here. It is not clear how they are being sent as there seems to be no tracking data, however if it is by normal post then we could be getting them in the next few days. Based on the info in the despatch letters sent out we should give it until Friday before dropping a line to query the whereabouts. Despite all the evidence to the contrary I remain optimistic on this.

Garcia Live Vol. 1

Just wondering who plans on picking up the first volume of the new Jerry series over at the Jerry Garcia.com site? show from 3/1/80, with a great line up at the time. Could be the start of a really cool new series!

The Call of the Box

Every day I log into this website, I find it harder and harder to fight the $199.98 price sticker of this box set. Did I pre-order "Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It"? Sure! But it's just so...just so...PRETTY!

re: The Call of the Box

The Call of a stripped down set for $100 with just the book and shows might have been sweeter. At least, the music is great and the mix is good. This set piqued my interest enough to take 'Without a Net' off the shelf to compare. On disc 3 of Copps, they botch that 'Hey Jude' a little (it's 'tentative' in places) but you have to hand it to them. They were bold enough to take chances, so I can't fault 'em for it. They sure were in a good spot for this tour...

Wow great shows

These shows rock just listen to blow away from the first show Brent leading the band almost reminicent of pigpen. The band sound like they are enjoying themselves and everything seems to gel. This is not 70's or 60's dead this is the dead 30 years later and still having fun Great stuff

Jerry's website off life support

I orderd a copy of Jerry's Vol.1, went for the poster/shirt combo. If their is truth to the writing then we are in store for some solid releases from Jerry's Vault. I hope it is true, really love the Pure Jerry stuff. I also order the Keystone Berkly shows with Merle Saunders from Amazon. No mention of it on Dead.net. I'm sure Jerry's vault has some amazing music. Hopefully all the legal stuff has been put to bed and the music will play. In the meantime, Spring 90 will keep me jamming until some new stuff arrives. Hate to read that some folks still don't have DP3, massive "Charlie Foxtrot" The band and its managers did something amazing for all of us, they taped and preserved their shows. Bet they never thoght it would become an empire. Folks like us will never have enough Grateful Dead~JGB. Being a Deadhead is a big part of my life. Peace. Phil

Lower price for S90

I have seen several folks here ask for just the music without all of he acoutrements. I am all for a lower price, but just how low do you think Rhino would go? Based on Dave's Picks and other releases, the lowest you could possibly see is $150. That is $25 per show. So at $200 as is, still a fair price. Worth every penny IMHO.

recieved my spring 90 box in

recieved my spring 90 box in scotland on 07/09/12.very happy with it indeed.everything in perfect condition,no damaged cd's etc.however i would much rather have boxsets like the style of winterland 73 and 77.

Get in the groove and let the good times roll !!

What a perfect opener for the Spring 1990 listening adventure!! The entire package is sweet and full of goodness like a box of chocolates !! The big book of photos and those GDTS concierge letters that used to come with the mail order tickets (way back before the internet) bring back tons of wonderful memories : ) Thank you Dave and Rhino !!! Thank you Jerry and Brent !!! The sound (so far): 3/19 is the finest sounding live Dead recording I have ever listened to. 3/16 sounds flatter , maybe because they captured the sound of each hall? There is also less Phil and more drums, which is rare for live Dead recordings but welcomed because it's easier to turn that up than down. Both 3/16 and 3/19 sound brighter than Dozin at the Knick. I am listening to Spring 1990 with the turnover on my amp set to 2.5khz whereas I use 5 khz for Dozin because on that recording both Jerry and Bob's guitars get obscured by the midrange. Hey now - if it looks like rain better check your doorstep, porch, patio, or courtyard. Ordered on 9/04, received here in West LA on 9/08 while the order status was still listed as "processing". Shipping notification emailed on 9/10 : ( Arrrived in perfect condition & 100% complete. Are people really using screwdrivers to remove the CD's from their cases? Could they be the MP3 (or even LP) generation?

Spring 1990 in Scotland

bryso wrote: "recieved my spring 90 box in scotland on 07/09/12"Not yet arrived in my part of Scotland. Shipping confirmation received from dead.net on 23rd August stating sent by UPS 2-Day International with a UPS tracking code that does not exist. 20 days later and still no sign. How did yours arrive? Royal Mail?? Courier?? Any customs charges??

Spring 1990

PsyKies I received a follow-up email that advised that it was being sent by normal post. On a previous occasion I was advised that an order had been sent and when it eventually arrived the postmark showed that it had actually been posted three weeks after the notification. I regret not ordering the box from Spin, from whom I am getting my Dave's Picks discs.

Spring 1990 box

Non arrival in this part of Scotland (Central) Shipped 23rd August but I am not quite panicking as it is not quite 3 weeks However combined with the non arrival of DP3 it is quite concerning

Don't use a screwdriver!

Don't use a screwdriver to remove the discs! Gently apply a little pressure to the spindle the disc is sitting on. While holding on to the edges of the disc, gently give the disc a little turn; maybe a quarter turn) while pulling the disc up to extract it. It seemed to come out easier for me when extracting this way, without force. After extracting the discs once or twice this way it gets easier. It doesnt seem to add stress to the disc thus way, and it worked well for me. Good luck and Enjoy.

Yeah, whoever is using a

Yeah, whoever is using a screwdriver must have had a few too many Screwdrivers. You're just asking for trouble by doing such. I just pressed down firmly on the center spindle, placed fingers on opposite sides, and gently wiggled the discs out. I'm sure some of you have pressed down on the center spindle and tried prying the disc loose from one side, which doesn't work very well and will eventually guarantee a broken disc and a broken heart. The smart thing to do is to pry the discs loose and put them in a CD wallet. I ripped them at 320 and put everything back in the box because I much prefer the instant segue between discs rather than the delay CD changers present.

because Donna's howls are...well, they're Donna's howls.

Yeah, tell me about it.I wish we could use equalizers to get rid of her from all those wonderful '70's shows!

Garcia Live Vol. 1

Great, thanks for pointing it out. I didn't know about it. I don't see it on Amazon yet. I like ordering from there when possible. But I'll get it! Jerry rules! What, no track list on the web site? ;(

Jerry tracklist from jerrygarcia.com

For those of you unable to find the tracklist for Garcia Live Vol. 1 on jerrygarcia.com I have copied and pasted it for you here Early Show: Sugaree Catfish John How Sweet It Is Simple Twist of Fate Sitting in Limbo > That's All Right Deal Late Show: Mission in the Rain That's What Love Will Make You Do Russian Lullaby Tiger Rose (w/ Robert Hunter) The Harder They Come Promontory Rider (w/ Robert Hunter) Midnight Moonlight E: Dear Prudence The lineup is: Jerry Garcia - Guitar/Vocals John Kahn - Bass Ozzie Ahlers - Keyboards Johnny de Foncesca - Drums

Arrival in Scotland

Who was the shipper ? I've been told first that it was DHL Global, and then (from Dead.net) that it was UPS Worldwide Saver. Tony

Another comment on mix

I've been comparing the Knickerbocker discs to Dozin' at the Knick and find that I much prefer the mix of Dozin'. Granted, I don't have a huge problem with the mix like some here, especially nothing warranting complete dissatisfaction or threats to sell my set on eBay or elsewhere. No, I still believe this was $200 well spent. Also, I'm partial to Dozin' 'cause that was my first listening of the Dead ever back in '96 when it was released. Something about that mix is more front and center whereas I feel the Spring '90 mix places me somewhere in the middle of the arena; Dozin' rocks whereas the Spring '90 mix booms. Of course, Lemieux and Norman knew that comparisons would be made between the two and opted for this current mix anyway which speaks volumes.

JGB in 1980

Thanks for the list.As most of us know this band has another release from this tour (2/28/80 at Kean College) Known as 'After Midnight' which included a bonus disc that had five additional jams, four from 2/29 and one from 3/1 That track is the That's Alright, Mama From the Keystone sessions with Merl Saunders Made famous by Elvis (whose drummer would soon be in JGB). As for the Dozin' v Spring 90 there are also the different nights to consider as the Box set show is not on Dozin' and I have heard variations at multiple shows For example the New Years run in 1983 at SF Civic, the First Night ROCKED and the others were more contained altho extremely entertaining (was dancin' my socks off)

mix on Dozin @ Knick and "Without a net"

Every Mastering Engineer has a different spin on how he masters discs, Arista records did "Without a Net" ,It probably was done by some big name mastering engineer because these labels want that big label sound, ,Good test on your ears that you noticed the difference. Those are bothwell done CDS

Spring 1990

Of course, nothing has arrived. As the first email advised that dispatch had been by UPS and even gave a tracking number and then the follow up email advised that the package had not been sent in this manner, deadnet did not even know how the package had allegedly been sent, it is reasonable to deduce nothing has in fact been sent. I am now fed up to my back teeth. It should be a simple enough matter to post a package to an address in the UK.

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