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    Interesting to note the divergence of opinion....
    On people being unknowingly given drugs at shows. I'm clearly in favor of choice. However, the people offering may have had a good heart and motivation , perhaps caught up in nostalgia. Their decision was inappropriate. Food is food, Drurgs are drugs..
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    there is a pretty wide range of sophistication or lack thereof in Dead Head crowds and it's not reasonable to expect everyone there to have street smarts (but then, I view "prankster" behavior of this sort as assault, pretty much. Calling yourself a prankster is no excuse for wantonly messing with the sanity of strangers any more than it's an excuse for driving drunk). And somehow I doubt the person who passed this stuff out at the Wharf Rat table was forthcoming about the contents, and to hand the stuff to known Wharf Rats is beyond nasty. All else aside, this sort of shit destroys the mutual trust that in my lowly opinion is about the most precious commodity that Dead Head audiences have over the rest of the world. I can't count the number of times I've shared food and drink with strangers in line or at shows, and I never poisoned them and they never poisoned me. I think that's how it should be. Yes, you have to be responsible for yourself, but you shouldn't have to go to a Dead show with your armor on either. Choosing to dose is one thing, and God bless you. But it's not a choice you get to make for other people in my opinion.
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    I'm not condoning dosing of the unwitting, but this was at a Furthur show, which is known by many to be a psychedelic scene (never trust a prankster, right?), so folks should be on their toes about this sort of thing, but even if they aren't knowledgeable about what to expect at a Furthur show, then there's always the conventional wisdom found in the subject line of this post. And for the record, I've been alcohol-free for almost 20 years, and the last GD shows that I attended, I did so as a Wharf Rat. Again, I'm not condoning dosing, but I will make some noise about people taking responsibility for themselves, which is one of the main things that I've learned in recovery from alcohol and hard dope.
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    My point, at least
    is that reports indicate that not all people who ate the chocolates were doing so as an informed choice of what they were getting, and having personally known someone who was really messed up for a long time by being unknowingly dosed with who knows what at a show, I'm pretty strongly of the belief that dosing people without their knowledge and consent is pretty vicious.
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    Chocolate items
    Friday at Redrocks, a friend of mine thinks he may have been dosed unknowingly (beer cup ?). Saturday, a friendly blond woman, 30-ish, offered neatly packaged rectangular chocolate bars including mushroom ingredients. She also offered round cups, in green foil wrap, similar to a peanut butter cup. I don't believe she'd have purposely given one to someone without the recipient knowing what the "candy" really was, I stuck with the Dale's Pale ale...
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    Think the point
    Is that you always are offered the choice to get high, it is never presented unannounced. Especially these latter days. There is a lot more acid around again.
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    Anna rRxia
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    Think the point
    Is that you always are offered the choice to get high, it is never presented unannounced. Especially these latter days. There is a lot more acid around again.
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    Hey Hal !
    Mary & I were at those Fri & Sat Red Rocks as well.You are in for a treat, my brother Furthur has accelerated to warp speed. And don't forget to fasten your seat belt. Best to you and Deb and enjoy the ride. I predict a Furthur treat in your future. Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself.
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    What's your point?
    I was approached by the person offering chocolates: I declined. If you don't want them, don't eat them.
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    WARNING--crossposted from Wharf Rats thread
    mona Offline passing it on Sunday night at Red Rocks, 2 wrats were offered chocolate that was packaged in a commercial way,while they were standing at the table. this happened right before the set break meeting. They examined it and ate it and the guy who gave it to them said nothing and walked away. This is a horrible thing to happen to someone in recovery, let alone anyone! Even with people who are using, proper "drug edicate", is always to ask if the person wants to dose. It was an extremely frightening experience for those 2 wrats and I would hate for this to happen again. I don't know if the person who gave it to them had malicious intent b ut it should never have happened. Here is a description of the chocolate and packaging: silver foil on the inside with a lilac colored label with printed ingredients and some sort of local logo for chocolate company. It was a smaller bar and chocolate had nuggets in it. I did some research and found out these we're all over redrocks, and apparently had mushroom powder in them. Not sure if this was someone local from Colorado or if they will have them on the whole tour. Please be aware if you are attending any upcoming shows. This happened right at the wharf rat table!! I pray this never happens again
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Submitted by sherbear on Sun, 12/30/2012 - 12:00

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Furthur was exploring new galaxies in mysoul with me last night. I heard the second set and the universe was shrunk to the size of a pin head and at that I jumped in to the abyss of what going forward entails. The house is filled with roses. God Bless the Streamer...maybe they will be there for tonight's show. To Furthur: You all are so talented and make this music so amazingly! I love hearing all the present day and traditionally-styled soul-speaking, mind-bending, infinite- emotion with hot-booty-shaking rock-n-roll. It's the Some of Best Music in the World ! Rock On and Keep On Smiling, xo! You've carried me and that's priceless. I needed to say thanks a trillion, xo! You all have filled my Dad's home with best that was so excellent, everything was excellent. He thought your music was great! So, thanks another trillion for making him so happy. I would dance whilest doing chores and such. His love will be everlasting and could only wish you all the very best of everything for you all. He thought the Grateful Dead was one of the Greatest Bands of All Time! We are inseparable, with in so many Dead songs (Arrrooooooo!) May every good wish be at your feet or perfectly at the tip of your nose....you'll have to look twice to acknowledge it. More love soon... and don't forget, I love you, ALL, xo~~~~ -----------------------------(-------@ the rose scent....
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Submitted by sherbear on Mon, 12/31/2012 - 00:16

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Masterfully played and integrated within me.... forevermore. My prayers and wishes to always there to serve you-all with delight, and bless the path that is for your steps alone. I am in awe and at inspirations door. But...I am frozen like a tree. At least I know it's there. What an awesome show! I love you, ALL, xo!
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Submitted by Gr8fulTed on Mon, 12/31/2012 - 21:48

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Flipping from Little Feat to Widespread to Furthur.... Happy New Year !!!
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:15

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Wow, really great seeing the boys all bunched up on that little stage. Very nice webcast. The first song i caught was the Deal. Then Bobby crooning Black-Throated Wind. Gotta love it. There definitely is a difference with them in close proximity, at least to my ears. Check them out if you have the notion.
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:47

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With the right kind of eyes you can almost remember where that high, sweet wave broke... I am luvvin' this...
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Submitted by bolo24 on Thu, 01/17/2013 - 11:03

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Big fun at the new Sweetwater last night with Furthur. It was great seeing them in such a small venue - capacity is only 313! I don't think anyone was more than 50 feet from the low stage. Kinda felt like I was back at the Keystone in Berkeley during the JGB days, except the Sweetwater is cleaner with a better sound system. Although I did like the free popcorn at the Keystone! The show was on the mellow side for the most part. The vibe in the room was palpably joyful, everyone having a real good time. Phil had a big smile on his face most of the night, John seemed to be enjoying his solos. Nice "kumbaya" moments, especially during "I Know You Rider," when the whole crowd pretty much took over the lead vocals. Looking forward to the streams for the next three shows.
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Thu, 01/17/2013 - 22:27

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Lots of nice jamming tonight. Mind boggling tangent on Doin' That Rag. Really nice. This night brings me moments of missing Jerry (as all Furthur shows do). The ineffable non-presence of the spoon that stirred the pot. Still I am grateful for this -- rolling into Watchtower from Stagger Lee now. Enjoy!
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Submitted by bolo24 on Fri, 01/18/2013 - 01:01

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Second set tonight was on fire!
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Fri, 01/18/2013 - 01:12

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Good Lovin'>Crazy Fingers>Born Cross-Eyed>Eyes>Other One>So Many Roads; Help On The Way>Slipknot>Franklin's Tower. E: Touch Of Grey Nice show, brutal for us non-vampires on the EC -- time to go to the gym
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Fri, 01/18/2013 - 22:58

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Cumberland Blues; Dark Star - I swear Furthur is like a giant Quaalude! But I always did lover those Rorer 714s...! Yikes! Dark Star>Morning Dew>Dark Star>Terrapin... Day Between -- This just keeps getting better and better! Suitable for Bobby... "Where all we ever wanted was to learn and love and grow..."
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Sat, 01/19/2013 - 21:03

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I: Jam>Truckin'>Althea; Music Never Stopped; West LA Fadeaway; Bertha; Cosmic Charlie :); Midnight Hour:)) Yummy!
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Submitted by sherbear on Sat, 01/19/2013 - 23:43

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THANK YOU ALL! For all the all of it all. It's been so endearing for me, I didn't dance much this time around but laying on the speakers made for permanent contentment. That's plenty for me. May lovingkindness and good fortune be ever returning to you, all, xo. What goes around does come around, so enjoy it. Back of my memory is still troubling me but this has helped me so much and the miracles of tomorrow are at my door...today. I love you, ALL, xo.
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Submitted by bolo24 on Sun, 01/20/2013 - 10:34

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What a wonderful run of shows at the Sweetwater! The folks in the band played and sang their hearts out. It was an absolute treat to see and hear them play in such an intimate and friendly venue. Leaving the building after the show, I experienced the same sense of satisfaction and wonder that I used to feel exiting Winterland, Kaiser, the Greek, etc. I am truly grateful that Phil and Bobby have assembled the talent to continue bringing us all the sweet music that has been branded onto our DNA for decades now. To the Furthur naysayers out there: you're missing something special, because the MUSIC never stopped.
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Sun, 01/20/2013 - 14:16

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Bolo! This was different than playing in front of 10k varied people. So many thanks to the band for letting us all in on it!
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Submitted by PonchoBill on Sun, 03/17/2013 - 08:10

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is there anyone out there that can tell me why Canada is ignored year after year by these guys. As a head that can't tour, i'm cryin up here. A couple shows in T.O once in a while wouldn't kill anybody would it?
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Submitted by ohsograteful44 on Sun, 03/17/2013 - 12:39

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I must concur all folks out there that haven't seen Furthur in the past three years are missin' out. I've seen nearly every new incarnation - The Dead - Phil & Friends- RatDog... and to my mind this is the one that gets me to the closest I've been to what Jerry once described as "Little Golden yummies that last for moments on end" or something to that affect. It's that thing that comity and conne ction,,The spiritual Big O that kept us all addicted to the Show! I'm jonesin' just thinking about it.We here in the South feel a bit gipped at times. Hope to see some FL. and Atl. shows on the summer sched. Till then I'll have to be content to see Warren and the Bros at Wanee next month. Also NMA, Galactic...
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Sun, 03/24/2013 - 15:46

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Mon, April 15th - The Capitol Theatre Tue, April 16th- The Capitol Theatre Wed, April 17th - The Capitol Theatre Fri, April 19th - The Capitol Theatre Sat, April 20th - The Capitol Theatre Sun, April 21st - The Capitol Theatre Tue, April 23rd - The Capitol Theatre Wed, April 24th - The Capitol Theatre Thu, April 25th - The Capitol Theatre Sat, April 27th - Boardwalk Hall Thu, May 9th - BottleRock Napa Valley Festival July - All Good Festival Fri, Oct 4th - The Greek Theatre Sat, Oct 5th - The Greek Theatre Sun, Oct 6th - The Greek Theatre
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Submitted by guit30 on Thu, 05/09/2013 - 03:04

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In my opinion, this night was so special, great setlist. Kadlecik was kicking on his new kustom guitar,a real beauty. His vocals on "Reuben and Cherise" were out of this world. "Built to last" done real well. Kadlecik was kind of taking over this night when Bobby was kind of in his own world. I think I had better get a CD of this Show. How good are the CDs done by the company that records them and sells them on the Furthur website? Jim
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Mon, 05/20/2013 - 06:39

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After checking Furthur's web page this morning and seeing that the summer tour will be going as scheduled I bought my ticket for Meadowbrook Amphitheatre. If you are going to this show you should know that they've changed policies and that it costs money to park: $5 to choke in the dust on the pavement $20 for premium parking on the grass $40 for VIP parking I opted for lawn seats and premium parking. The only good thing I can say is that it only costs $1.50 for total service charges that get you hard tickets mailed to you. Once again hoping that Bob has a good rest during his time off and is back on his game this summer!
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Wed, 05/29/2013 - 09:52

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At Interlocken in September must bode well for Bob's recovery. Lets hope so.
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Submitted by sherbear on Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:06

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Hey now! Talking about trips... Help get the message out, if you can. Furthur is bound for Cooperstown, NY... This Upstate NY Venue just miles from where the severe flooding occurred. The amount of debris and household waste is tremendous, folks are exhausted too. Please if you can- sher this: Please take your trash with you when you leave, plan smart for recycling and minimal waste. I am praying with great supplication that the Historic and Excellent town of Cooperstown shall not suffer our arrival or departure. It's so special and it's kept clean and quaint and a true it's heritage. It's all about Baseball and the perfect embrace of entertaining ourselves with this things we love best. Thanks in advance if you sher this. I am always proud of music but not the mess and these communities have been hit really hard. Love one another... XO
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Submitted by sherbear on Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:30

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Oh and,yeah... Check for detours, most are only a few miles others more lengthy. No worries a detour can and will get you there. Get a fill up for gas about 30 miles outside Cooperstown as it will be difficult to gas in the town of Cooperstown; you will be glad you did, xo (love you, all) Cooperstown is not a city and a small town, to be sure. Get a parking spot where ever you can and wear walking shoes. Stop in Schildman's Bakery for a baked-perfect treat, if you can. Go early and tour... The Baseball Hall of Fame, it's awesome and air-conditioned- No place like it in the World! Enjoy a beer at the pub and wet yer whistle; the beers always cold. Everything is beautiful in Cooperstown. The pier has a big lawn for hanging out. Stagecoach Coffee House is one of my most favorite places to go when I am there. When my John would receive medical treatment at Bassett Hospital we would go there and it is the best. Old fashioned and serene, this place takes the world away. Pastries and sandwiches delicious, get one for after the show. Cooperstown is one of my Favorite places, to be sure. I love you, all, xo!
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Submitted by sherbear on Sat, 07/13/2013 - 11:47

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Great set of set-lists! I just heard that last night achieved some kinda cosmic lift off. Sweet words indeed! Rock ON Furthur! Love to you-all, xo! -------------(-----@
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:37

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Furthur has announced it's 2014 hiatus and Phil has just stated that he is "Off the bus" after 48 years of touring. It seems while there is a chance of more Furthur shows in 2015 and beyond the great wheel of time (Kalachakra in Tibetan tantrism) is spinning. What really needs to be stated is a big Thank You! to Bob & Phil, Jeff & JK and the rest of the crew for the incredible # of shows they did in almost 5 years! On the Internet Archive there are 1050 shows listed (some of those are multiple recordings for the same date). 4,743,365 shows have been downloaded from Archive. I believe all should acknowledge that this is a pretty formidable and prodigious amount of music for the remaining members of the band in their sixties and seventies. Really a remarkable body of work for folks who deserved to be in retirement. You might not have liked them for whatever reason. God knows I had some issues with who is singing whose song. But in the end you just have to step back and applaud and be grateful. The following dates are scheduled in 2014: 4 shows in Playa Del Carmen, Mexico in mid-January. 1975 all over again? I don't think so, but who knows? Thank you Furthur, for a real good time!
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Submitted by Anna rRxia on Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:47

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Furthur's upcoming "last stand" at an all-inclusive resort is pretty pricey. But for what I'm looking at during this week's pro golf match there, it IS a beautiful place! Have fun y'all!
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Submitted by jmanrow on Tue, 08/18/2020 - 19:28

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I went to most Furthur shows held in Portland and Eugene.