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  • Kate_C.
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    Pig - endings

    It's late on a Sunday and that means bed soon, but since my quick reply to TD's inquiry below, I've been further thinking about the tragedy of Pig - and I certainly think of it that way despite the manifest personal responsibility for the consequences of near incessant alcohol abuse from a young age. It's a spiraling decline that seems particularly pathos-laden given the picture of a gentle, genial man that emerges from all the familiar documentary sources.

    I take notes or attempt to catalogue page references by subject from my little library of the Dead, but realize I've done a poor job on this particular subject - and certainly during the general time frame implied by TD's question. So, I wanted to share a couple relevant - and heartbreakingly poignant - passages from Jackson's "Garcia/American Life" that I've revisited since:

    First, McIntire speaking: "I remember one day Garcia coming into my office and saying, 'Look, I'm really worried about Pig. I think his life is in danger, and I want to do whatever we can. The band'll pay for everything. Let's find out if there's anything we can do.' So I researched it and I found out the most famous place in the world for liver problems was Sheila Sherlock's clinic in London. But my doctor, Sandor Bernstein, said there was a guy at UCSF [University of California and San Francisco] who was as good. So we slotted Pig with him. And Pig jumped in and did, too. He stopped drinking and he learned all the things about nutrition that he could. He really tried, but it was too late."

    And second: "[On the tour] he rode on the hard bus, this Danish bus, which was sort of like the crew bus," Annette Flowers said. "It was the quieter of the two buses usually. Pigpen lived on the back bench of that bus. ... I think that trip sort of sunk it for him; put him over. It was really grueling in a lot of ways." "He got knocked off that bench five or six times," Rock Scully recalled. "He rolled off that bench and a couple of times he really hurt himself I could see it; he really hurt his kidneys and bruised himself. I'd have to help him off the bus."

    "He really tried, but it was too late." A short, simple statement, but one that can put fault lines in even a strong foundation. I recall reading that Pig sent Veronica away as his condition became increasingly acute, which, in light of other information, clearly underscores what a lonely and frankly terrifying period those final 12-18 months must have been for that kindhearted soul./K

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    I posted this in the taper forum, but thought this may be the better spot (also, patience is not a virtue of mine). I am sure this exists in written form somewhere, I just can't seem to find it.

    What is the official band policy for trading in shows that have been officially released? Specifically, I am wondering about the ones that were released officially but are out of print. Seems to me that if they are not for sale currently, we would not be costing the band money by trading those shows. In fact, the only folks it would cost are those selling the out of print releases at a profit on the secondary market. Just curious what the official policy is on this considering the volume of official releases these days.

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    Yes. I suspect Pig was resting from his short reunion tour with the band in December '71 and fortifying his commitment to sobriety in what had to have been an unfathomably difficult lifestyle change (if not in terms of medical necessity, then certainly in practice).

    "Ace" was recorded from January - March '72, but recall that Pig's alcohol-related health problems forced a touring hiatus in August '71 that culminated with hospitalization in September for bleeding ulcers, hepatitis, and spleen problems. He was only able to rejoin the Dead beginning early December in Boston, at which time I recall Phil describing Ron as shockingly frail in his book. Not surprisingly, Pig's contributions are limited, and while progressively more energetic throughout the month (at least to my ears), they are still anemic by historical standards; though by NYE he sounds beat.

    In retrospect, it's a miracle that the Dead community (once and future) got Pig back in functional form for the brilliantly recorded European tour, especially given how quickly he dropped off radar for related health problems afterward.

    EDIT: And yes, "sabbatical" serves as a neat and entirely appropriate bit of shorthand in conversation among those who know....

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    bobby's "Ace" album

    essentially it was a dead album with everyone on board contributing except for Micky who was on a sabbatical, (as i see it) and Pig, why wasnt Pig contributing? was he too sick at the time?

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    RE: NYE '69

    CC, your post invites a bit of confusion by suggesting that you saw both the Dead and TSOC on the same NYE bill at Winterland in '69; though 50 years is an understandably long time. It's hard to imagine, but the Dead were not playing on a West Coast home field that December 31st, and were rather in the midst of an odd eastbound triptik that took them to Dallas on 12/26, Hollywood (FL) on 12/28, and the Boston Tea Party on 12/29-30, while closing out at the Fillmore East on 1/2-3/70.

    Indeed, the '69 NYE playbill on the poster you linked does not name the Dead. So TSOC and the GoGD were on opposite coasts at the decade's close. In any event, here's a link to a CM SBD for the Dead's '69 NYE show:
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1969/12/31?source=87994

    Incidentally, I couldn't find a poster for Boston NYE, but here's one from the night before (it would appear the promo dept. missed the spirit of the "grateful" dead; you'd think an impossibly early incarnation of Maiden was playing that night!):
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YQBsfGwVEeo/TUSkqEWWy3I/AAAAAAAARQs/qRvbGdWK_…

    However, you are correct that the Dead played NYE '70 at Winterland, but, consistent with the playbill cited in Deadbase50, the following promo poster does not show TSOC on the same stage, but rather NRPS, "assorted friends" (apparently Hot Tuna), and Stoneground (note also, "lights by Little Princess 109").
    https://img0.etsystatic.com/030/0/8448089/il_570xN.542921874_q4nc.jpg

    Checking Deadbase, here's a link to what seems the complete NYE '70 show; however, it appears to be mix of AUD and FM broadcast that provides poor sound quality through Cumberland (even so, the Truckin' opener is well worth a listen), but thankfully improves in time for the set's highlights at Cryptical and China>Rider through close at UJB.
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/12/31?source=88719

    Regardless of which show you attended, either would've been a great way to kick off your own personal attendance record! Got a story?/K

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  • DaveStrang
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    You may want to post this on the Dave's Picks 31 thread so more people see it. Most folks are there.

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    I can not find the 1st GD…

    I can not find the 1st GD show I attended anywhere in GD archives. No GD archive lists the same bands that I saw that night, as confirmed by the Sons archive which has the poster from that night:

    <<Wednesday, December 31, 1969: '1969 New Years Eve 1970', Winterland 2000 Post Street at Steiner Street, San Francisco, California
    The band was billed only as 'The Sons' on the poster printed for this show. Also on the bill: Quicksilver Messenger Service, Jefferson Airplane, Hot Tuna. Lights by Brotherhood of Light. This show, from 8:00pm to 8:00am, was promoted by Bill Graham Presents In San Francisco.>>
    http://brunoceriotti.weebly.com/the-sons-of-champlin.html

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    How do I update my address…

    How do I update my address for my Dave's subscription? Want to make sure #31 gets safely home!

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    limited releases logic explained

    Could you please explain the logic of "limited releases" as it applies to an "alternative" business model, such as the grateful dead" The "limited release" model is a concept taken from the good old music biznezz, in order to promote sales, keep prices high, and maintain collector value of limited products.
    I "missed" the window for daves pick's 30, a rare release from the year 1970, the first show that I recorded 1/3/70. I was disappointed, but managed to get one on a record/cd selling site. I paid double, but I still saved $$$, as I do not want to purchase a "subscription" to the daves picks yearly releases, as I am primarily interested in obtaining music from the 1966-1970 period, and not many releases are from these years. I guess I could always buy a subscription, and then sell off the unwanted items on another site for a profit, which is what this concept does, encourages a "black market". I do not consider this to be "progressive" in the least. I would rather purchase through GDCORP, as I have in the past, but if GDCORP wants to encourage this type of atmosphere, I am forced to participate in order to get what I want, and I am grateful to the sellers who have made it possible to get what I want. But it sure seems contrary to what Jerry's idea of business was.

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howdy yalll.. just a simple inquisition... do yall got an original artwork or fan artwork place... i just cant seem to find it.... im sure you guys would have one, just cant seem to put my finger on it... thanks...
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something that could separate fan photos from members artwork would be cool... ya know,as long as your working on the server and all :) what thinks u, marye?
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I think it could be done, though I tear my hair at the thought of retrofitting what's already up. It's a good idea, as we've been getting a lot more artwork from folks lately.
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Marye I hope your garden is going good Lots of butterflies and dragon flies plus mosquitos How do I order the Pyramid shows? I don't see any links Also the artwork for road Trips is cool any chance that would come out as a poster? I really like the steer skull with the bolt. Bob Thanks And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Hi, how's it going? The preorder is coming up real soon now. I know nothing of the poster status but will pass the request along!
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Hi there, any word on Rockin the Cradle preorder yet? Can't wait
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The package was up for pre-order for a few hours, including a new Road Trips volume (Winterland From Egypt with Love), then gone again. Very confusing.
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basically, an under construction page escaped and was re-corralled. This should all emerge real soon now. Thank you for your patience!
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OK, thanks or clarification. Looking forward to seeing it up again and finding out a little more about the next Road Trips volume!
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howdy again... just a quick question... who or what would i get in touch with concerning GD copyright laws... im just an artist who makes shirts of my art from time to time and was wondering who i should seek to get permission to do so... as in some of my work contains the stealie face...and the bolt... and to what degree i should tweak my art as too it is not breaking any copy right laws... and i hope its not warner bros...but if it is...any contact info you could provide would be delicious... would be grateful if you fine folks could show me the way..-forver grateful...-capt space...
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re: "Ladies And Gentleman, The Grateful Dead" hi, I was looking for this CD in the Store, (under LIVE RECORDINGS as well as BOX SETS & COMPILATIONS) but didn't see it. is it available?
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Is this site going crazy on anyone else? I see that I am signed in but can't send pms and enter chat. 2323 PST USA But I can post this? If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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my message is on the site but it is not the latest in recent posts, should be, it is with posts from late this afternoon If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Notice the vault series has become download only now, wonder if Ladies is heading that way also.
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What is this in the forumsI saw one about 1974 Miami show I assume that you sign up and someone mails you the CD and then you pass it on? Sorry I am not really uh knowledgeable about this. Planning a big party when i get the Pyramid shows. Thanks And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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It is indeed where people who sign up share shows by passing them along for the next person to copy the CDs and then send them on. There is a variety of Grateful Dead, Garcia, Ratdog, Phil & Friends and even other artists music to share. Click back to forums, then scroll down to the vineyard, click and browse.
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My earlier post was incorrect. The vault series is still available on cd, just also now available as download, 128,256, or flac. I apoligize for any confusion.peace,pk
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How can I get back on the mailing list for an almanac. I keep reading how others are soooo excited about getting there's in the mail. I want mine too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How can I sign up to get the Almanac in the mail? I have a old computer that does'nt work well enough to down load anything. I enjoyed the Almanac years before and am very glad to hear that it is back. I would love to get it again. Thank you , Blink
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try emailing almanac at dead dot net to get on the mailing list.
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Why does it always say "You are not allowed to post new forum topic"? Are we only allowed to respond to Admin. issued Topics on this board?
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In short, yes. However, if there's a topic you'd like started, we're generally pretty responsive.
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Why is The Dead playing for a politician when they could have played for their family/friends for all these years?
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I have no idea. Delighted as I am to see you around these parts, it seems to me all the various Obama fundraiser topics are alive and well, other than the one with the original press release, which did get rather summarily removed as arrangements were not exactly firm at the time. If you want to PM me the particulars on this mystery please do!
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Hi, I'm looking for two tix for 11/1. I have tix for sat 11/8 that i'm willing to trade or I'll pay cash Hey, hook a sista up. Thanks and have a wonderful Day!
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try the tix wanted topic, where you may have better luck.
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How come we choose from just two people to run for president and over fifty for Miss America ?
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There are more people who are willing to be Miss America! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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its because no-one pays attention to the independent candidates, most of us are just concerned with the two bloated bloodsucking political parties that have the most money (our money of course) that's all they see. you must look beyond these vampires....plenty of other candidates out there but it's harder for them to get on the ballot, because, again, money!!
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Im so sad that all of the tickets are sold out for the Dead Heads For Obama Concert at the Warfield!!! You guys need to have another show so the rest of your fans can have a chance of seeing the greatest band ever supporting the best presidential candidate of our generation!! I would drive across oceans and fly through time and space for those tickets!! Please consider it, Morianna
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I seem to remember Bruce having a picture in the Band Members section of dead.net. Oh well I could be wrong. Bruce no love? come on. Just curious. Anyway Bruce is coming to Vancouver january 09 and Im pumped. wonder if I will be the only one in a tie die.
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we used to be able to see a list of all members and access their profiles. is that option still available?
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why thank you ,marye, for your most kind assistance. i believe it used to say "members" or something similar close to or near "chatroom" and "all recent posts"
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Hi! I was one of the multitude who pre-oprdered the Rockin' The Cradle set here, but still haven't received it. Any news/ideas? Thanks!
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Hi! I was one of the multitude who pre-ordered the Rockin' The Cradle set here, but still haven't received it. Any news/ideas? Thanks!
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i got fed up with not even receiving shipping status.contacted cust.serv.and asked wot would be quicker, refund or shipping status.then they did both the same day......re-ordered and it should be here 2morrow....i would get with cust. serv. if i was yoy
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I have a question: say I wanted to make sure dead.net folks were aware that HeadCount was auctioning off certain music-related items, like: 1. A Warren Haynes, custom Gibson Les Paul Guitar, signed by Warren himself 2. A Pearl Jam poster from their 2008 tour, signed by every band member 3. A Fender guitar signed by every member of the Allman Brothers Band and Bob Weir & RatDog 4. A guitar signed by every member of My Morning Jacket 5. A Rothbury poster signed by Snoop Dogg, Dave Matthews and three members of Phish 6. A Mile High Festival poster signed by Dave Matthews, John Mayer and 10 others 7. A pair of Congas played by Jay Lane of RatDog along side Bob Weir at a historic private performance in Washington D.C. on April 7th (signed by both) Where would I post something like that? (I get HeadCount emails, let me know if you want me to forward you the email with the auction link) ((Snoop Dogg, Dave Matthews and Phish - you know that's the after party to hit!))
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I would like to hear from people who have had problems with Merchandizing and the customer service message line their thoughts about a phone line to speak with a Human and also if problems have been resolved satisfactorily.
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we could start a topic for HeadCount I'll try to deal with it in the next day or so.
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is there a no hassle site for GD lyrics and chords?
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marye said: "we could start a topic for HeadCount I'll try to deal with it in the next day or so." Don't worry about it mary, you've been swamped with starting new forums. I just wanted to post the auction list somewhere. The Ratdog/Allmans autographed guitar is still only $1000, and the Bob Weir autographed congas are an affordable $370. thanks, Mark
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No gdh this week is posted. I called DG on the air at KPFA last night and he said he had e mailed one to dead.net. what is the problem? lethedoom