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Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It.
So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic!
And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!
Yipeee! YaHooo & YEE-HAW
Thanks so much CC's Back-You're the best EVER!!! xoxoxxo Gypsy Cowgirl......still trying to figure it out for the next one......
this is an ideal all
this is an ideal all humanity is born to strive for, it's what makes us human, with the ability to think and reason, and make this planet better every moment of time for all life on earth.Do unto others as you would like others to do unto you.
It is universal, all incompassing.The more you receive of goodwill and love, the more you will want to give of the same. It is a geometric progression and the key to life on this tiny planet in this incredible universe.
If you keep this thought as you interact throughout your journey here, you will become the building blocks of the universe.
Pretty cool. Something to hang your hat on.
peace,pk
Right on Gr8fulTed
What's in the water down there in SC & or what yall smoking down south? whatever.......to each their own, I guess........Gypsy Cowgirl
Craving for some Cheese Whiz
Thanks for the enlightening inpiration, pk. It's really tough to be open and tolerant.
the golden rule
>pk said: >Do unto others as you would like others to do unto you.
the highest of universal laws, the golden rule
right on brother pk
plus, LOVE just makes the music sound sweeter,
don't ya think?
"The law come to get you if you don't walk right"
Greg SC let me get this right
So you are mad because you lost your portfolio and Phil has lost it and Neil Young has lost it and Bruce Springsteen has lost it and Sarah Palin is a smart cookie who should be president?
Who is losing what around here?
I guess I haven't lost my sense of humor.
If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake
If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake
thanks folks
PK and CC and cowgirl and Ted and Oroboros for helping me keep what resemblance of sanity I may retain around here with your posts!
If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake
HERE
HERE is the only real, CANDIDATE FOR THE PEOPLE!
tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=379346&altf=Kbdl1Tusbx&altl=Gspn1Xjdijub
you gotta copy and paste that link into your browser yourself.
thankx to 'you know who' for bringing this to our attention in another very special place.
peace.
hal, please keep laughing, otherwise we all gonna cry.
too many threads
too many threads, can't keep up
hfff hfff hfff
slow Down Wait UP!!!
its like chasing a bird through a maze
grdaed73is a dirty rottenspammer pass it on
"NOW WAIT A MINUTE"
Free-Idea-may be alot of threads (I am a seamstress, so I have no problem) but please don't be dissing my pal grdaed73 on here-will ya? That's not what PK was saying (maybe you were joking?) .......Hal R, CC's Back, Ted....who else?.....right on-maybe we are getting a bit off track, but hell it's Friday night......didn't ya just love the Michael Palin video???? think it's great......xoxoxo Gypsy Cowgirl & to think it was sent to me by 1 of us @ GDTS-what a crew we had!
Johnman...
Johnman, don't be bummed out-go git some Cheeze Wiz- maybe they make it organic now, it'll taste better.......Gypsy Cowgirl
sorry gypsy
yeah, not a serious bone in my bodyjust trying to start stuff on a friday
night, yknow give a little guff, get
a little guff, got any guff?
i should supply ample ;;;;----))),
just passin time
"now wait just a minute here"
:-) havent been serious since '67
Organic Cheeze Wiz
Hey gypsy, that would be just exactly perfect with some free range Rocky Mountain Oysters and free range pork rinds and locally produced organic saltines (with sea salt of course).
If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake
OK NOW WAIT A MINUTE
yeh, now, on Friday nights is my favorite TV show "Don't Forget the Lyrics" & there's a black cowgirl from Houston, Tx. on....she's good, too.......Glad yall answer me, had to get back on during commercial....haha......god idea, Hal R, but I get sick from pork.......Johnman-it's good here-what'd ya mean???? Free Idea-thought ya might've been kidding.............xoxo Gypsy Cowgirlps-I KNOW Pigpen sang that "NOW WAIT A MINUTE" it's ingrained in my memories from childhood (or rather teenage hood)
dead.net'n between commercials
that's funny gypsy, i was doingthe same with the red sox game
on the radio.
who won?
forgot about the ballgame-I'm onto the news, not that's a bit depressing....oh, shit, just missed the sports......it is funny-dead.net'n between commercials............oh, yeh, the black cowgirl won $500,000.00 on Don't Forget the Lyrics! YeeHaw for her! I'm so proud! ....... .Gypsy Cowgirl signing out for the night-hubby says I've been "deadheading" enough-eyes getting blurry, woirk to do.....ahhhhhhh
sox held on
the sox held on for the win.always liked my tv news in
black&white, not so depressing
somehow, and my baseball
i like through the radio, so i
can use my imagination more.
'and we bid you goodnight"
two threads are better than one.
Hal R
I think the Neil Young, Bruce, and Phil were from another thread... But since you brought it up, let me clear it up.
I think music should be kept seperate from politics. Even Bob Dylan never named names, he would just get people thinking about political themes...
What I see coming from Phil, Bobby, Bruce, and Neil Young these days is a bunch of telling people WHO to vote for, and being quite blatant about it. And, yes, it will cause their musical careers to FADE AWAY.
I went to see Phil in Charlotte NC the other day, and the Phil show was blown out of the water by the Allman Brothers Band (who opened for them!). Phil needs to spend more time gettting his band sharp, getting good cameramen, and getting good mixing board techs, and possibly picking up one more guitarist, rather than going down the depressive road of politics -- especially for that wet noodle, Barack Obama.
That was my point.
And Sarah Palin is a sharp cookie ... but she became victim of a vindictive interview, and a editing designed to rip her to pieces. No matter what the woman would have said would have been wrong ... There have been tons of these types of interviews, gaffes, studderings, and confused moments, etc., of Obama, but the press sweeps those under the carpet.
If this woman had been running for President for the last 2+ years, she'd be head and shoulders above Obama or anyone. At the moment she is playing catch up, but in the end, she has real substance, and will be light years ahead of any party-line politician like Obama.
Greg SC
Just a thought....
Now this is just a thought......but maybe.... just maybe.... the political landscape has changed over the years....I dunno, everything else has, so why not politics and the way that the monster is ran.
I have no problem with ANYBODY stepping forward and presenting who they are or aren't supporting. They...just like you SC have everyright to to show support for one candidate or another. You don't have to agree with them, and if it's more than you can stomach, then by all means it's up to you to decide if you even wanna support the person that's doing the supporting. Pretty novel idea I know, but it's "your" choice to decide what to do with what you see and hear.
Ever since the "Rock to Vote" campains started, it has grown into people from all aspects of life on BOTH sides of the party lines showing their support of a certain candidate. Since there seems to be people (and although very sad and pathetic) that can't decide for themselves what's best for them, You now have people trying to inform others on what they think is best.
I may be totally misunderstanding you and the point your trying to make here, but in a way, your doin pretty much the same thing on this board as Phil, Bobby, Bruce, and Neil are doin in concert. You've been pretty vocal on who you support, and that's your right I guess...as far as Palin...I can't stomach her, and find the little winks and smiles at the camera repulsive. She's not your "average" joe...She's nothing like me, or anyone else I know....ya know..."Your Six Pack Joes". or whatever it is she calls them.
But hey, If there is any beauty in Politics at all, and I don't think there is...It's that you have the right to your own opinions, and you have the right to voice them, and get this....YOU have the right to vote! What ever your convictions are that helps you decide what you think is best, you get to use them. Get what I'm sayin'....The 4 above metioned individuals, that you are so put off by right now, becouse of the stances they've decided to take...Right or Wrong...It's their choice my friend.
That's why, me personally, hate discussing politics. It tends to lead to angry and hurt feelings most of the time. People can be so compassionate about their beliefs, they tend to forget, that the people their discussing it with, are just as compassionate.
Oh well....I better quit rambling here...I tend not to make alot of sense most of the time,..lol.. So sorry if I've carried on.
Just my 2 cents.
Hey GregSC...
You said:>>And Sarah Palin is a sharp cookie ... but she became victim of a vindictive interview, and a editing designed to rip her to pieces. No matter what the woman would have said would have been wrong ... There have been tons of these types of interviews, gaffes, studderings, and confused moments, etc., of Obama, but the press sweeps those under the carpet.
>>If this woman had been running for President for the last 2+ years, she'd be head and shoulders above Obama or anyone. At the moment she is playing catch up, but in the end, she has real substance, and will be light years ahead of any party-line politician like Obama.
So let me get this straight...the VINDICTIVE questions like "What newspapers do you read?" and "How does Alaska's close proximity to Russia give you foreign policy credentials?" were GOTCHA questions? Unfair journalism??? SHARP??? Put down the crackpipe and slowly walk away. Medic? Over here in SC...
Dude...she has yet to be able to sit down and answer ANY question with authority. TWO DAYS AGO, she was questioned on the export of Alaskan oil to China. I'm sure you've read one of many articles on this - here's a quick reference. It's an AP article - all sources verified:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20081010/Palin.Oil.Export…
Now, PLEASE stop pretending this woman is "on the ball". She came out swinging and energized her party to the point where I was getting nervous. Then the real Sarah Palin came through. She WILL make a good politician ONE DAY. She's not ready for prime time, bro. Obama - wet noodle? You mean the man who's rallied over 20 MILLION people, including THOUSANDS of hard-core conservatives (like 6 seperate households on my own street?!!) to back him? Yeah, wet noodle....classic. Read his plan. Read McCain's plan. One is filled with vision and common sense and shows how everything is paid for. The other does nothing but say how he thinks his opponent will bring this country to "the brink of disaster" (apparently worse than we already are). I'll let you guess which plan belongs to whom. They are both available on their respective websites for public download. I recommend some reading.
~ Pappy
"Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
who would you hire
I am totally agree with keeping music separate from politics. But since we have opened the can of worms, here are some things to think about.
Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
& Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 out of 899 (meaning that, like George Bush, McCain was at the bottom of his class)
Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism
Palin created a highway on an island across from Juno to link the mainland with an airport. When it was finished she vetoed the bridge to the mainland, wasting 17 million dollars. Before she was governor she was mayor of a town of 5000. She has never been out of the country.
McCain only became a P.O.W. by being one of the worst naval pilots ever. The first time he was shot down he was trying to steal a plane to fly to Pennsylvania to see his girl friend.
There is just about as much dirt on Obama. He did associate with terrorists, when he was six. In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a "hard-core academic Marxist," which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.
Anyway, I don't think either candidate is totally honest or even a good American. I do believe in knowing the truth. You can find any of this via Google search engine. Make sure to triple cross reference, since there is a lot of dirt being thrown.
STAY AWARE!!!!
right on.
Billy and Is420
I couldn't agree with you more! Amen!
The only reason I am even stating on these threads who it is I support, is because Phil and Bobby (and Bruce, and Neil), have decided to get political. So once that starts, it gets polarizing. That is why I am horrified that Phil and Bobby have twice now publicly designed fundraiser shows for Obama. I think it stinks. I never used to talk politics to anyone. I would just sit there, drink a beer, and have fun, keeping my political thoughts to myself.
But now, these guys are out there stirring up a hornet's nest. They should really think about what they are doing. But then, maybe they now have enough money not to give a crap.
I also can't help but wonder why Phil, a guy who went through hell with his liver transplant, is now supporting an Anti-Life candidate like Obama. It blows me away.
Greg SC
Greg SC
The Republicans had their chance and what do we get - 4,000 American's killed in Iraq for George JR and his big lies and future generations will be paying for it.
McCain is still in a Vietnam War type mentality. He thinks that war could have been won and this one too. Sinking more American lives and money into death for nothing. Thank you for your service now go off and die for us. Something some of us have a major problem with.
Those of us who aren’t fortunate sons see our relatives and friends end up maimed, psychologically damaged and dead for the lies of the rich Bush and McCain types of this country. Plus all the innocent Iraqis.
And this is pro-life?
I think a woman should not be forced by a patriarchal system to carry through with an unwanted pregnancy. That early in the pregnancy she should be given a choice. You and I obviously disagree on when an independent life begins. It is a difficult choice, I leave it up to the individual woman to decide, you don't, you feel that you have the answer for her.
Sarah Palin strong, sure, maybe like an ox barging its way through a kitchen. Independent, sure, but being president is about working with others and reaching agreement. I don't think she has these skills. A wink doesn't do it in the realm of world politics. She is not dealing with Joe six pack here.
If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake
shot down
just a little clarification here....i 'm not supporting anyone or anything.....being "shot down" means the opposing side poked so many holes in your aircraft that it falls from the sky......you don't get " shot down" flying to pennsylvania.... your aircraft may fall from the sky for other reasons........like, mechanical failure, or pilot error, o.k.? thank you for your time.
What the F__K!?!
Greg SC-Phil believes in what he believes in, so what the hell? They all support Obama, so what's the big deal? Who ever said Obama is an Anti-Life candidate? I'll have to research that one. I agree with Hal R-the Republicans had their chance & they've screwed it up royally. Selfish sons of bitches........enjoy the music & be done with all this bullshit.
Gypsy Cowgirl
ps-if I felt like telling you who I am, I could tell you more, but I'd rather be a mystery
as
I used to be a "joe six-pack"
then I became a "Joe 'fifth of John Daniels' in my back pocket"
then I became a "Joe cheap burgandy red wine in a 3 quart box"
finally, I reached my own personal NIRVANA by being a "Joe Cheese Whiz" living on the straight and narrow these days...
people change.
trouble is, I suppose, in some cases, no matter how clearly an opinion is presented, and no matter how carefully the 'directions' are written on the label, some people will always fuck it up or mis-understand the 'real' purpose of a "product"
anyway, FREEDOM OF SPEECH, for everyone, and if it is your Cheese Whiz, and your clothes, do with it what you will, but please keep in mind, we all share this washing machine.
doesn't it say on a box of Q-tips, do not insert into your ear?
what the fuck??
even the obvious can remain unclear.
peace.
trouble is, I suppose, in some cases, no matter how clearly an opinion is presented, and no matter how carefully the 'directions' are written on the label, some people will always fuck it up or mis-understand the 'real' purpose of a "product"
anyway, FREEDOM OF SPEECH, for everyone, and if it is your Cheese Whiz, and your clothes, do with it what you will, but please keep in mind, we all share this washing machine.
doesn't it say on a box of Q-tips, do not insert into your ear?
what the fuck??
even the obvious can remain unclear.
peace.War, what is it good for ... absolutely nothing.
Hal R
I am not for this war. That is why I liked Ron Paul. But I am not for socialism either. And that is one of the many reasons why I do not like Obama.
I would respect Phil and Bobby if they just had an "end the war" fundraiser. But they instead hold fundraisers for a man who can't make up his mind on anything associated with the war.
As for being Pro/Anti-Life, well, there is a woman in Florida (Caylee Anthony) who might have killed her daughter. And the police are trying to get to the bottom of it. If we can all agree that the state rightfully sees this crime as a possible taking of a human life, and not a mother's choice, then you might begin to understand my position when it comes to being Pro/Anti-Life. I personally understand that sometimes a pregnancy must be terminated, but today, abortion is being used as birth control. And if anyone doesn't see that, well, so be it. But Obama, in the Illinois senate, voted in support of a bill stating that if a baby survives abortion, and is still alive outside of the mother's womb, then he/she should be -- legally -- left unattended until he/she dies. That is sick, and he is a sick man. I have heard stories from nurses who have quit the abortion industry because they have witnessed that very thing, watching as the baby coughs and chokes until it dies.
Greg SC
I really hope
I really hope Phil will also take this opportunity, to remind everyone to be an organ donor, too.
when there are really impotant issues which should be shared, people in 'celebrity' tend to feel "responsibility"to express their views.
Anti-Life....
Funny how things and words get changed.
The battle use to be Pro-Life vs. Pro-choice. Now the "Far Right" has changed it to "Anti-Life" It's such a new term, that it's mostly used by the zealots you see marching if front of clinics calling people murderers. Dude...IT IS A WOMANS "CHOICE". Who's "Right" is it to pass judgment on any woman who "Chooses" that abortion is right for her? I know it's not mine...your's....or anyone elses. When there comes a time for judgement, it's between that person, and which ever higher power you believe in, to work that out. Not someone here!
I'm just awed at how some people believe it's their duty or "RIGHT" to carry the sword, and try to pass judgemnt on somebody. As a male, I wouldn't have the slightest clue as to what a woman has to go through. I can't even begin to fathom what would go through a womans mind when it came time to decide something like that. I have HUGE respect for a lady that decides either way. Dude...it's their "CHOICE"...not your's or mine.
Again...just my 2 cents.
To Greg SC
Thank you for your replying to my comment, I think that exchanging ideas is the better way to grow...but let me say one more thing...I don't think that Palin is a really stupid woman, I mean, she's the candidate for vice-president uh? Fact is that I read on the newspaper all these interviews where she stated about the willing of god (?!) to support the war in Iraq..hey, do you know the meaning of bombing people who, basically, are like you and me? Killing people, children, to kill one terrorist..does it worth the price? For the sake of the good life of the middle-classes all over the world? To say things like those, to me, sounds fascist..or maybe nazi too. And, to add more, but it's only my own mind, I don't like these pro-life movements..I think that a woman is free to decide (aside from the fact that before the 24th week there is no possibility of life)..or is she only a body carrying something? Don't you think that animals behave like this (but in this case without a fault on their side)? And then, what could be the real difference with the way of thinking of those countries where women have to wear a burqa and can't decide about themselves? I think that if the world, and the U.S. above all keep on ' going away with these ideas of having the relationships between countries, and between human beings regulated by "god" or whatever name you will call it, the world just won't change. Men and women with eyes wide open, looking at the world with a real human way of feeling, tryin' to talk to each other rather than stickin' out guns is what we need or nothing will change.I don't know if Obama-Biden could be really different, it just seems to me that they can't be worse than McCain-Palin..sometimes hoping is a good way to begin.
It's said "It's time to make
It's said "It's time to make the world a little wiser, There are enough destroyers and criticizers, the world needs a healer"
tr 1981
peace, and healing,pk
you know, wishing won't make
you know, wishing won't make it sohoping won't do it, praying won't do it
religion won't do it, philosophy won't do it
the supreme court won't do it, the president and the congress won't do it
the h-bomb won't do it, the sum and the moon won't do it
God won't do it, and certainly I won't do it
That leaves you, you'll have to do it
Makes you think, and thinking is good
visions by todd
Like CC sez,we all share this washing machine...........
I backed off my posts, politics suck, now Greg ever thought about a vacation (outta S.Carolina)? Alice D. Millionaire
might as well
how about the jerry shirts.....the "might as well" party. i kno buddy has one. a photo is posted here somewhere
"That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom"
"And that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
Quote from Gettysburg Address, by Abraham Lincoln Nov. 19, 1863
Oct. 12, 2008------
FUCKED AGAIN ! ( pardon my French, but actually it's English as it supposedly stands for "Fornicating Under Consent of the King")
The federal government today announced that it is changing its emblem from an Eagle to a CONDOM because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed!
Darn, it just doesn't get more accurate than that.
peace & love, Gypsy Cowgirl
Johnman & Free Idea
hey-I beat you guys to the 200 mark! heh! xoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
bravo gypsy
well put .....but i thot it was ...For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge...?heeheehee
it was....
it was from an email a friend sent me-just had to post it-can't help myself sometimes! The new American Emblem (red, white & blue) mind you, I couldn't get the pix on here......I know you're just trying to catch up to the 200 mark, but gals gab more....hahaha.........GC
what time?
someone tell me what time the show starts. i'll be sittin' on my porch here in tacoma, with a beer in my hand.........i BETTER be able to hear the screams when the boys hit the stage....other coast i kno..but i wont underestimate the power of a bunch of starving deadheads!! ENJOY!!
Johnman-New American Emblem
the "New American Emblem" part is what was emailed to me. It was my own idea to put in the quote from the Gettsburg Address-just seemed so appropriate-POWER to the PEOPLE! xoxxo Gypsy Cowgirl
American Emblem
Good ol GD
Gypsy, thats funny as "fuck" (from the German to hit) I need to remember that, kinda reminds me of the dicks, assholes and pussies speach for the Team America movie, good job with the Gettysburg part though, "Power to the People right on"!
American Emblem #2-Good ol GD
OH MY GOD! Good ol GD! just typed in the "F" word in the dictionary on the computer & it does say it's of German origin. (16th century) I will have to tell my friend who told me it's English version (Fornicating Under Consent of the King) Either way, I still think the American Emblem should be fucking changed....... Love American History-it's too bad, we, as a nation seem to have gotten lost since Lincoln's Gettsyburg Address...... Power to the People!!Yeh! xoxox Gypsy Cowgirl
Oh Please say it isn't so
I cannot believe the news that the dead are supporting Obama. I have been a deadhead for 30 years and I thought they were smarter than that. Don't get me wrong I don't like McCain either. We need less government interference in our lives not more. Vote libertarian. if the people would support an alternate candidate they would have a chance.To those who like Gore, wait a few years. You will find that the global warming train is a hoax. Follow the money people, don't be so naive.
Gimme an F
Hey Gypsy
Hey Gypsy know this one? "Gimme an F, gimme a U etc etc what's that spell? what's that spell. well c'mon all you big strong men Uncle Sam needs your help again". Anyway I'm a history buff too. And think that alot of the american public have forgotten where some of their most basic of freedoms came from. Bet if you ask on the street who is honest Abe they couldn't tell you. kinda sad. anyway Wave that flag wave it wide and high do to do.
Hey hevster, on global warming, it was created by the media man.