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    Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It. So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic! And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!

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  • Exploratory Da…
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    Yikes!
    Political discussions can ruffle feathers so I tread lightly. I will probably write in Alice Cooper. He ran in 73'. Don't like Obama. Too liberal in his views--no experience--wants to "talk" with Iran . .etc...etc. After having a daughter born premature at 27 weeks (the last age I think allowed to be "partially aborted" supported by Obama) has changed my views on this forever. You know of course that Alice Cooper & Gene Simmons generally support Bush and McCain. Go search it on-line. I believe Gene's mom was in a German concentration camp, and she was freed by allied troops. That had an impact on his political views.
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    yeah...
    I'm thinking the same.
  • GratefulGigi
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    Never did like that man
    Boo Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!I still might write in Ron Paul........
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    NOW he says he'll call the DEA goons off the medical marijuana clinics in places where they're allowed by state law. What do you bet he finds some reason to renege on that one too?
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    Obama in serious danger of losing my vote
    You know, I'm reasonably cynical about politicians. I don't expect them to agree with me about everything, etc. But I am simply aghast to learn that after promising last year to join the filibuster against the FISA bill giving telecom companies immunity for their criminal behavior in helping the feds conduct warrantless wiretaps against their customers (for which our own Electronic Frontier Foundation is suing AT&T in court, among others), Barack is now saying that he'll vote for the current bill that lets the telcos off the hook instead of joining his filibustering colleagues. If we expect our soldiers to refuse unlawful orders, for which the penalty to them might be quite high, we should certainly expect the telcos to keep faith with their customers and demand the warrant the law and the constitution require. Indeed one of them, Qwest I believe, stood up to the feds and did just that. Kudos to Senator Feingold and the other spineful legislators prepared to filibuster this atrocity, and shame, shame, shame on Obama, who is showing himself to be yet another sleazeball willing to do and say anything to get power. I am reminded of all Bill Clinton's fine campaign promises to all the constituencies he sold out the minute he was in office. Don't ask, don't tell, anyone? (For that matter, shame on him for seizing the photo op and talking about how he supports the death penalty for child rapists in the face of the Supremes saying it's unconstitutional, too. Shades of effing Bill Clinton signing the death warrant for the Arkansas criminal who was so retarded he said he was saving the ice cream in his last meal for later.) I hate to see Barack degenerate into just another creepy opportunist, so I hope he straightens out. But I'm not all that hopeful, and wondering who I'll be writing in.
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    there are bookies laying odds about who will be chosen as the running mates... McSame -- Romney Obama -- Nunn as far as Jimmy "The Fish" is concerned, Rommey and Nunn have the best chance of getting chosen as the vp. peace.
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    McSame v. McChoice
    McSame is pro-life = anti abortion / anti pro-choice. I don't remember who is on the supreme court, or who thinks what over there, but sure as shootin, if McSame gets to appoint somebody,that Roe v. Wade (1973) might be changed. hopefully that issue will bring all of the Hillary folks over to Obama henceforth and post haste. I don't think Hillary will be chosen as Obama's VP, too much 'whitewater' under that burned bridge in my most humble of humbolt opinions. Choosing another woman as his running mate, I hope, will not be seen as a slap in Hillary's face or a snub against Hillary, but in the end, Obama's gotta pick somebody who can do the 'swing' with one or more key states to turn them blue. peace.
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    Obama's President... Next!
    Now let's talk about some real issues...finally.Not only are the primaries over, the whole race is over, imo. Obama's the next No.1 and anyone that takes a few moments can easily see and understand the graffiti on the White House walls these daze and understand why oil is rocketing to new highs every week. The Greedheads are taking anything that isn't glued down and, at this point in Washington, D.C., it's looking like Saigon late April, 1975, to me. The class action lawyers are gearing up to crash the Presidential gates (and well they should, imo) and I suspect Big Oil is in their crosshairs, to pay for the effort. I just hope that they decide to take criminal actions as well, against Cheney and his cartel, before they make their way to Ken Lay's palace in Dubai. My idea is, after Obama takes the oath, to freeze all assets of these offshore behemoths (including the utility conglomerates, where they launder their ill gotten booty) until we can figure out how to proceed in a world without crude oil as the staple it has become, as the direct result of market rigging by these cry baby, 4th generation, industrialists. After that, we won't have to worry about terrorists spoon fed stereotypical hatred of the West, with OUR own money and get back to a relatively free society, we once enjoyed. What I wonder is who Obama will appoint as Attorney General because that's where the real action is going to take place, after the current plague disappears back into the wood work. Whoever gets that appointment better have balls the size of Texas (or the equivalent). The last guy capable of those actions was paid off in lead, just like his brother. My fear is we'll get another Pelosi along with so called "Universal Healthcare" instead (which would be great if it actually happens... without becoming ANOTHER government entitlement, "white elephant"). On the matter of the government running heath care, Jack Nicholson's character, Melvin Udall, said it best in the movie, "As Good As It Get's", "Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here."
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    Looks like Obama be the man. Can't take McSame as Bush.
  • jerry_garcia71
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    http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/DeadheadsForObama I think Hillary done burned that bridge! If she wasn't so nasty all the time like her "and the skys going to open up" speech, and just peddled her agenda instead of making personal attacks, she might have had a chance at VP. She really showcased her mood swings during the campaign; one minute civil, the next flying off the handle with inappropriate jabs. She can go from tears to laughing like a hyena in a matter of minutes. As a fan of the Clintons myself, I have to say that I lost a ton of respect for both Hillary and Bill this past year. There's many more responsible VP choices for Barack.
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Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It. So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic! And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!
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Yo TC in AZ: Flying Dog used to have a joint in Denver, but moved out and are in Maryland. Have you ever tried the KiltLifter in Phoenix? A coworker here in KC really likes the brew there. If you ever run into Oskar Blues Beer, check out Dale's Pale or Gordon's. Gr8ful TC in KC
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Just went and voted. Walked right up to my polling station and no waiting. About half of my district had already shown up, which is usually more than they get for the whole day. This is going to be a record turnout. And about friggin' time, too. I consider voting a social responsibility, and I have yet to miss any election in which I'm eligible to vote in. So if you still haven't gotten out there yet, please do. We're all counting on you! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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gonna try one more time......can't stand too long, mebbe no line now....gotta do it either way....i don't remember the lines EVER being this long...chargin' my phone now!!! and of course now the wind is kickin' up.........
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listening to CNN-problems again @ voting places in Pa......no problem here in our district of SF.......hope it's the same in the others...TODAY IS YOUR VOTING DAY!!!!! NO OTHER....!!!!! ADAMENT ABOUT YOUR REGISTRATION-I'm quoting CNN...... xoxox Gypsy Cowgirl gotta run
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Like swimming in a clear cold topaz blue mountain lake high in the sierra's.That feeling when you walk home from voting. Totally blissed out and smiling. We can change the world, one vote at a time. peace,pk
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in line at 1245........finished at 1510....2 hrs 15 min in line.......once i received my ballot was another 10 min 'til i was done.......i will now drink all of the beer, stand aside!
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I'll remain cynical and skeptical till all of the votes are in, but Barack seems to be aHEAD. peace.
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'spose i should let him know that he might be the new state auditor AND public lands commissioner for washington
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Well I voted in 5 minutes here in Fl., no waiting. Speaking with my friends wife earlier, she said maybe Obama's grandmother could help him more from the other side. I told her I had goosebumps just hearing that. Peace
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Pennsylvania goes to Obama! Thank you Bobby, Phil, Billy, and Mickey. For your grate efforts to bring us the change we need. peace,pk
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Republicans, because the party's over. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Obama 49%McCain 49% actually Obama is ahead by 132 votes at this point. This is unbelievable. Nebraska hasn't split our electoral votes since 1964! Hey Hal, we got out the vote!!! The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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AP is just announcing that Obama won Virginia. Whoa! Polls are still open for ten minutes in California. Maybe longer if people are still lined up!
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This is a magical time. Wow. He will win california,oregon, and washington and thats the start of a new era.
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The right man won.now the all the hard work starts.He has one hell of job ahead of him
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OK, I've been politically ambiguous to this point, because well, I'm like that. I guess I've hinted at my stance as I tirelessly monitored the Change Rocks concert info as well as the DH for Obama concert info, so I would like to now simply say, "YES!!!!!" I'd also like to say, "Oroboros - much love! I still listen to those discs at least 2-3 times a week and I'm still stuck on 6-9-77. It just never gets old for me. Love!"
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Wonderful new historic day. World over here seems to be exhaling in relief.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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I think you made the right choice..someone who can start to undo the enormous harm done by GWB and cronies. Please keep him safe and give him time!
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The election of Obama as the US President is historic. And like many historical figures, he may just find himself on a stamp someday. Food stamps that is. Americans have collectively voted that they want more government programs and are not willing to take full accountability and responsibility for themselves. Furthermore, American ingenuity will dampened with all the tax increases. It appears that there is a fundamental change taking place toward more socialist programs and activities across America and the globe. I am totally against redistribution of wealth. While I don't have much, I want to keep all I have and get. All were fed up with That (the Bush Administration) that they elected This (Obama), when This is not that great either. But it is what it is and we move forward.
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So happy ....... It's like seeing a very good old lost friend back with a large smile on his face ....... BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO ............... Sad black and wite time 's over let's get into the mixing colors years .... Grateful Marek from France.
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The post-election party in Grant Park looked like a real good time! Good luck, Mr. President-elect, in building an effective Cabinet. Congress has a few more Democrats to grease the wheels of progress.
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not falling into their time-honored pattern of succumbing to hubris and adopting all the vile behavior that got their opponents thrown out--cronyism, corruption, pork, coziness with lobbyists instead of the citizenry, etc. I for one am not forgetting for a second that the evils of the last eight years are the result of Bill Clinton's pathological inability to keep his pants zipped or tell the truth, and I do not want to see this movie and its aftermath again. When you have a pack of slavering Newties determined to use any pretext to bring you down and the well-being of the country depends on their not succeeding, cavorting with interns and lying about it is arrogant, borderline criminal stupidity from which it is perfectly clear that Rhodes Scholars are not immune.
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I don't care what anybody does with their own time, just don't do on the Democratic Party's time. What didn't Clinton get? That guy changed the course of history with his stupidity. Dan White of San Francisco could't face the city he grew up in after what he did. Clinton's walking around like nothing happened. Republicans can get away with that, but not a Democrat. What didn't he get? I will never figure that one out.
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marye, but please what is a Newtie? (blush)********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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oh, yeah, marye, that is so right on. I have always thought it quite shameful that in our land of opportunity, we only have a two party system. makes me want to 'Ralph' (throw up) yuk yuk yuk... ( -; yeah, yeah yeah, I know all about them libertarians, and the greens, and the indies et al; but they don't have any real chance of winning... but from this 'Nadir' I dont see them winning nationally. but quite honestly, I never thought I'd live to see the day that a man of colour would get in the 'White' house; so I hope I'm wrong about not thinking the other 'parties', the lesser known, lesser funded candidates may someday get in there, too. here's hoping about that for the long term future. meanwhile, I hope Barrack will get this country back on track, have to keep raising the 'Barr' on him; I hope he rises to the challenge... and I especially hope and pray some ignoramus bigot racist asshole doesn't kill him.
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Newt Gingrich type, newtie I also hope someday there will be a tie-dye room in the White House!! maybe replace that 'yellow room' did I ever tell you folks the story about how I puked all over a set of beautiful marble stairs INSIDE the White House? c. 1977/78 Carter years. too many peanuts early in the am, I reckon. peace.
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Well , now that the dems are in full control, they can't blame the rascally republicans any more. They control the executive branch plus the legislative branch. I don't want to hear any more whining from Tom Dashle. If they screw this up, then we can throw the bums out in in 2010 and 2012. "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz
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Remember, it will take some time to repair all the damage from the last 8 years. I hope he's up to the task. I voted for Obama, and proud to say so! Peace everyone
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I guess one of the best things about this Obama win, is many of us will get our redistribution checks from the man. He said he will be increasing taxes on the rich, so I'd expect him to be whacking Bobby, Phil, Mickey, and the other members with higher taxes. Then turning around and handing the money over to us. We might see it as getting a discount, or bonus coupon back, for all the money we give them during the year. Hey, go Obama! Greg SC
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maybe just maybe... if Weir, Lesh, Kreutzman, and Hart gotta pay higher taxes they will hit the road for a new The Dead tour. I'd also love a combo Phil and Friends / Rat Dog tour. AND, I want Hunter to be the opening act. ( -; peace.
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Here we go again, like deja vu all over again.Best to stand up and help your neighbor, than sit and criticize. We can all have a hand in making this country great again, together, as one, against all odds. Like this band I heard, they were, and are, really cool. They came up against the norm, started with a small following, leaving people saying, wow, these guys are really different. They seem unrehearsed and very improvasional. They don't use que cards, seems to come from the heart. Hey, thats the same song...oh thats a different arrangment..it seems they keep thinking and trying to make it better. Trying to make it Just Exactly Perfect. They crossed the aisles..thats Branford Marsalis playing with them, isn't he a jazz musician, hey thats Hamza El Din, isnt he egyptian... and they recreated a song and it was as if it had always been played that way. They have a wonderful and varied following. They are all individuals and they are very different, with a common goal, a goal they are still tyring to perfect and define, and it is like life itself. It never ends. Always trying to make it just exactly perfect. Always evovlving, always thinking. New ideas, always thinking, not afraid to climb out of the box. Not afraid of different ideas. It seems like what Barack is doing is much the same in it's essence. And he needs all of us to help with ideas, effort, and support to make this world around us just exactly perfect. "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" John F. Kennedy peace,hope and a new era. pk
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I just learned that John Leopold, an old pal who's sometimes seen around these parts, won the runoff election for Santa Cruz County supervisor in his district. Having known John since he and twin Dave were 18-year-old Heads back in the day, and having actually been his wedding photographer, I've gotta say, WOO HOO!
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That is really grate news. About time, the world is coming around. WOO HOO TOO!!! ps I love santa cruz, a favorite spot.
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Man, I've been waiting for Obama to win so I can quit my job, and get taken care of. I think I might just take the moment to thank the Lord, and then write a personal letter to Obama, saying how I need his help. This is going to be a great four years. Thank you Obama, you have promised alot, but don't take off that Santa Clause suit, as I'll be needing health care, car insurance, gas subsidies, food stamps, etc. Man, my excitement has yet to stop. Greg SC
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Geez, I hope everyone is thinking like you Greg, then nothing will get done and we can all starve.
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gonna change your name to richard, greg?no one has a magic wand, it don't get fixed if everyone doesn't help!
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It's all in the attitude. And with attitudes like that.....it's ok, I believe lots of grate people will help and thats ok if you don't. Just sit back, criticize,be cynical, it's ok. We will all make sure you have a better world to be miserable in, no worries.
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but i believe he's saying that government is far too involved and this could easily become what alot of people view as a "nanny state" where the powers that be take care of everything and there is little or no personal responsibility.many of our larger cities have generations of people who have lived on welfare, without attempting to better their lives themselves. now i am not saying he's right, and maybe his view is extreme, but we are all entitled to our opinions and he might be closer to the truth then we realize.
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1st have a cookie, now i agree with what you say about the "inner cities" and welfare and those ticks... but just possibly some will see that they do have a chance now, change can only come about if the majority roll with it. if everyone plants their feet and refuses to budge then nothing happens! it is a group effort!!! like pk said, it's attitude, positive is good, negative is bad!now have another cookie : )
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I think anyone who looks at Barack Obama and believes he is just going to hand out checks to folks for the sake of hand outs is not paying attention to his past, or present ideaologies. He has worked as a community organizer, to help give people a hand up to contribute to society. He states he wants to help kids get into higher learning if... they give back a substaintial effort to the country. He is way past "the welfare state" , he is looking to get everyone working and contributing to our country. I believe if you worked for Barack Obama you would have to work hard and you would be rewarded. this is his whole lifes goal. As opposed to a few getting "rich" , both in money and resourses and leaving the many,many others out there with no money or resourses, and what do you do with that, especially the latter. What you do is stagnat, Watch, but remember, you must put out the effort to make it work before you can sit and judge that it is a failure. Time to get to work.
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just an opinion and i'm reserving my own.....a wait and see kind of thing, but i'm hoping my taxes don't go up.....i can't afford them now, i always seem to owe every year. i aint got a job just the $800 a month i get from the navy, and they want to garnish that. i've never cheated on my income tax and i don't know how many people can say that. i can't take much more.
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some folks have just never had the joy of getting a miracle ticket. worse than that, some folks have just never had the extreme pleasure of GIVING a miracle ticket. all a matter of point of view. THIS scene is about caring and sharing. peace.
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bought a ticket without at least two extra for someone.......my first show was a gift........i'll jus' hafta wait 'n see.........................................sure would like a cookie, though
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fair trade: cookies for tix! or tix for cookies! to give what s/he has, to get what s/he needs. peace.