Grateful Dead

I'm gonna add 4/30/88 to this vine. I grade the sound quality of the first set as an A- but the second set is an A. Highlights include an always welcome show opening Let the Good Times Roll, a mid-set Pocky Way, a set-closing Let It Grow, a second set opening Shakedown, a solid all around second set, and the surprising encore of China > Rider. I believe the recording is a MTX.

i mistyped originally, & Marye didn't catch the correction.This was sent to Dstache on Monday

Got it, need to rip and burn the show I am adding, will have it out by Fri

For those that are interested, yes, Rooster contains a mini Brent rap, making the song palatable. "little red rooster, you ain't shit to me," haha, great stuff. If anyone knows if Bobby forgot the lyrics during the first verse of Queen Jane or was just being an idiot, let me know.

I'll post when I send it out. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

I will say both; Weir blew the verse making him an idiot. The Fat man rocks/The thin man spits.... I do love Bob, but it's so easy......... "I had a hard run, runnin' from your window." Oh and I am in on this one too: 1. dstache 2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. pkpotter 10. Birdsong1969NJ

They ALL blew lyrics...A LOT....that's what happens when you have a repertoire over 250 songs and you play a different show every time out. It just happens. And it's completely forgiven, in my book. Prime examples: Jerry in Hartford 10/14/83 - blows lyrics in "Alabama Getaway" and SMOKES the rest of the song on guitar. Bobby in Landover 3/16/90 - flubs the first line of Queen Jane (and corrects himself, following it up with 'There we go!')....but the song is played BEAUTIFULLY - one of the best renditions I've ever heard (in my top 3 shows attended). Brent in Hamilton just a few days later 3/22/90 - the 20 year awaited breakout of "Hey Jude" - the whole song - and he forgets over half of the lyrics. Didn't matter - historical moment of epic proportions, IMO. Who cares? Looking forward to this run BIG TIME. ~ Pappy http://www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

Of course, they all forgot lyrics. Hardly a show is played from '78 onward where Jerry didn't forget some lyric. I didn't mean to imply that Bobby was an idiot for forgetting lyrics. My question was regarding the fact that I can't tell whether he is mumbling in that obnoxious rock star way he feigns every once in a while because (a) he forgot the lyrics or (b) he was just being obnoxious. The answer may be (c), both. Sometimes Bobby intentionally sang in a way that rubs me the wrong way. Just play it straight, Bob.

to uncle john today. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

It is a partly sad but true part of what happened to Jerry, but Derek hit the year on the nose. 1978 is When opiates became a prevalent part of Garcia's life and from what I have heard, they don't improve your ability to remember a 250 song catalog perfectly 70-80 nights a year. Add on his Garcia Band repertoire, his stuff with Reconstruction and so on, and the man had a lot of shit to remember. The fact is the junk slowed him down in that category and he blew verses and mumbled through a lot of tunes on some nights. What the dope did to the way he played his guitar is a totally different story for a different time. That was simply mind blowing and worth a mumbled verse or two from Morning Dew if you ask me. I am not condoning the use of that shit by any means, but Jerry was all about the experimenting cross between drugs and musical performance. That is why we are here kids. Some drugs are just not good for you and dope was that one for Jerry. Now Weir on the other hand......I guess I can justify my oncoming point with the preface that a lot the members of the band and crew (particularly Jerry and Phil, and Healy....who lost his job because of it) would give Weir a heavy dose of shit for his antics on stage and his general personality. It was a nessecary part of the band chemestry. In my limited but condensed years of seeing the Dead live I caught many an eye roll, snicker, or general look of annoyance and even disgust by playing members of the band during say an Estimated Prophet where at the same time the 60% of the crowd would mimic his "Na Na HAH'S! and laughing. It was part of the "show". Bobby in my mind was (not so much anymore) a feigner and a crooner. He was the rock "Star" of band and it sometimes to some people it was annoying, but a part of the evolution of the Dead. Pappy has it right....who cares? I see your point dstache, we all love the occasional really tight show, but when did the Dead ever play it straight? I don't think the word straight was even in their vocabulary. This music was played by the Dead for us to take it or leave it. They didn't give a hoot what happened to it a nanosecond after it left their bodies. This is why I love this music as it REEKS of freedom from head to toe. I am really on my soap box tonight: "The opinions expressed in this post are not the necessarily opinions of anyone that should really be expressing them, just a single deadhead that likes to talk shit". "I had a hard run, runnin' from your window."

Point well taken birdsong. I think the most apropos word to describe Bobby's singing [on occasion] would be maudlin. And you are right about straight, that wasn't a good word to use on my part.

Nail on the head...it's all a necessary part of the show. Bob needed to be Bob. If he held back - something would be wrong. I loved how Bobby played w/ his vocals....showing off, being goofy, etc....love it. My favorite would be when he'd be singing a Dylan song and break into that "Dylan-esque" tone....hahaaaaa.....(i.e., last line of 1st verse of Maggie's Farm 6/7/91). ~ Pappy http://www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

Great word Derek! A funny drunken like crooner! "I had a hard run, runnin' from your window."

Happy Holidaze to all...

1. dstache2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. pkpotter 10. Birdsong1969NJ 11. toddsnc

will have this out to Todd on monday , umm Todd did you sign up twice ? Thanks everyone .. Hope everyone has a sweet sunday !!

oops thanks Stu, the excitement must have overcome me, yes I did sign up 2x. correction below. I have these shows. will try to get out to mark by sat 1/17 but got the 91 MSG also so have 20+ discs to get through. So may be next week sometime. thanks eric 1. dstache 2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. pkpotter 10. Birdsong1969NJ 11.

going out to mark today

Get it out to Pappy soon as I can. Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

and I'll get to see them there! Hi! The Rosemont Horizon '88 vine is on its way to PAPPYPGH. Thanks for the shows, erickat! Enjoy! MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

1. dstache2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. pkpotter 10. Birdsong1969NJ 11. wolff

this is ready to go, but I'm just waiting for gdhead77's addy. ~ Pappy http://www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

1. dstache2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. pkpotter 10. Birdsong1969NJ 11. wolff 12. JackstrawfromColorado 13. "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

...Heading out TOMORROW (Tues) to GDHEAD77!!! ~ Pappy http://www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

WEDNESDAY to gdhead77....got too busy @ work today and was in before the PO opened. I'm off tomorrow and this is FIRST on my list (along with 3 other vines ready to RAWK!) ~ Pappy http://www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

1. dstache2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. Birdsong1969NJ 10. wolff 11. JackstrawfromColorado thank you

This went out in mail this AM (3/3/09)...

1. dstache2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. Birdsong1969NJ 10. wolff 11. JackstrawfromColorado 12. Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com) 13. 14. http://www.myspace.com/donnieloeffler "the warm wet world of analog audio"

thank you erickat 1. dstache 2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. Birdsong1969NJ 10. wolff 11. JackstrawfromColorado 12. Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com) 13. Hal R 14.

1. dstache2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. Birdsong1969NJ 10. wolff 11. JackstrawfromColorado 12. Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com) 13. Hal R 14. fluffhead420 Hal, can u PM me when u get it for my address to mk sure its still the same? Thanks brother! "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

This arrived today. -----If you wanna leave your troubles behind, you don't have to ask If you wanna go away and lose your mind, you don't have to ask If it's peace that you're looking for You got the key to every door, you already know---------

To Wolff -----If you wanna leave your troubles behind, you don't have to ask If you wanna go away and lose your mind, you don't have to ask If it's peace that you're looking for You got the key to every door, you already know---------

I'll post again when I get this out. Sometime next week - I gotta whole stack of discs to burn. This is fun stuff! I need Ursa Minor address. "When the smoke has cleared she said, that's what she said to me. You're gonna want a bed to lay your head and a little sympathy"

To Ursa Minor. Thanks again Eric! "When the smoke has cleared she said, that's what she said to me. You're gonna want a bed to lay your head and a little sympathy"

at the end of the week, out to fluffhead420 tomorrow If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

1. dstache2. That Nice Hippy Guy 3. unclejon 4. stuman 5. toddsnc 6. MarkintheDark 7. PAPPYPGH 8. gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9. Birdsong1969NJ 10. wolff 11. JackstrawfromColorado 12. Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com) 13. Hal R 14. fluffhead420 15. KINGCARGO.JB

to fluffhead420 todaythanks erickat If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

1.dstache2.That Nice Hippy Guy 3.unclejon 4.stuman 5.toddsnc 6.MarkintheDark 7.PAPPYPGH 8.gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9.Birdsong1969NJ 10.wolff 11.JackstrawfromColorado 12.Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com 13.Hal R 14.fluffhead420 15.KINGCARGO.JB 16.j.straw

Out to KINGCARGO.JB tomorrow "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

And they are sooo good. Makes me really miss Brent. "When the smoke has cleared she said, that's what she said to me. You're gonna want a bed to lay your head and a little sympathy"

Out to j.straw tomorrow.

As soon as A.J. pm's me with his info, I'll have these on the way.

I haven't heard from A.J. aka J.STRAW after sending him a couple of pm's. with that said, any takers? Sign up and pm me your info.

1.dstache 2.That Nice Hippy Guy 3.unclejon 4.stuman 5.toddsnc 6.MarkintheDark 7.PAPPYPGH 8.gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9.Birdsong1969NJ 10.wolff 11.JackstrawfromColorado 12.Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com 13.Hal R 14.fluffhead420 15.KINGCARGO.JB 16.j.straw 17. dancing blue bear 18.

1.dstache 2.That Nice Hippy Guy 3.unclejon 4.stuman 5.toddsnc 6.MarkintheDark 7.PAPPYPGH 8.gdhead77 or mmeyer@extend.com 9.Birdsong1969NJ 10.wolff 11.JackstrawfromColorado 12.Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com 13.Hal R 14.fluffhead420 15.KINGCARGO.JB 16.j.straw 17. dancing blue bear 18.

Deadhead525 would please like this next or asap please.

15.KINGCARGO.JB16.j.straw 17. dancing blue bear 18. deadhead25 19. ohyeah "Come with me or go alone, he's come to take his children home"

15.KINGCARGO.JB16.j.straw 17. dancing blue bear 18. deadhead525 (not "deadhead25" like in my last post) 19. ohyeah "Come with me or go alone, he's come to take his children home"

So I can't send my addy. Kinda confused about that one - I'll PM dancingbluebear with the addy and we'll see what happens. "Come with me or go alone, he's come to take his children home"