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    What's Inside:
    •144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
    •A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
    • Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
    •8 complete shows on 23 discs
          •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
          •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
          •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
          •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
          •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
          •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
          •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
          •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
    Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
    Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
    Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
    Original Art by Jessica Dessner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

    Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

    "If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

    Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

    With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

    For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

    Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

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  • wjonjd
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    One of the few luxuries in which I indulge is the purchase of all music made available by GD and Jerry. Although the music is the most important thing (by a zillion times), I actually do like some of the extras they have thrown into some of the boxes. For instance, the repros of the sheets that went out with mail order tickets that listed campgrounds and had messages from the band on the other side. I never thought to save those things. On the other hand, if it adds much to the expense, I can appreciate how it makes it easier for many to purchase the releases if the cost were kept as low as possible, and I certainly wouldn't complain if the extras were eliminated. I'm just saying that I do like them, especially the books. I enjoy having as much documentation about the shows as possible and like reading about them from people who were there or whomever they get to discuss background stories, context, personal experiences, technical information about tape restoration or tape re-acquisition, etc ad nauseum :) Whichever way they decide to do, smaller boxes with less bling, or larger boxes with tons of do-dah, I'm going to be in. There really isn't any era of their music I don't enjoy. Sure, I don't particularly want lack-luster performances (from any era), but I find that it is rare to find no gems even in those. I freely admit that I am not a very critical deadhead. That does not mean I can't distinguish bad, fair, good, great, and magically-inspired. To me, it just means that I'm lucky that I pretty much enjoy the whole trip, warts and all. With that in mind, some other shows I was at that I would love to see released, not just because I was there but because each of these would make fine releases would include: The '84 shows in Cuyahoga Falls, OH and Indianapolis, IN. The 3/24/86 (middle show of 3) at the Spectrum in Philadelphia (on youtube) The '88 and/or '86 Alpine Valley shows; I enjoyed every Alpine run, but these and the '89 run were, I thought, particularly good. and a few of the '90's Soldier Field shows were really great (not all of them). 4/11/87 at the UIC Pavilion has one of the greatest Terrapin's every played, but for maximum enjoyment you need the crowd. During the ending part, the way the crowd erupted each time they came back for another go-round was incredible. They didn't just erupt all at once. As the music climaxed each time, the crowd climaxed right along with them, pushing them to keep going longer and further; any analogy that sentence brings to mind is quasi-intentional after the fact as well as being apropos. My sister, who was at this show also, recently reminded me (when I brought this show up in conversation) how Ms. Brightman had the lights swing out to directly point at the crowd each time they began to climax again, further instigating the crowd. It worked. You can hear the crowd and the band riding each other to the heights. There are decent copies of this show on the archive. I'm going to get back to some '90's now. Oh, one more thing about backups. If you backup to something like an external drive, or anything that resides in your home/apartment. It is a good idea to make a duplicate to keep offsite somewhere. If your collection AND backup are destroyed in a fire, flood, or simply stolen, then your backup won't do you any good at home.
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    There are some Grateful Dead releases that give me a "Gotta Get This One, Other One Feeling" that sez: Please Order NOW! It pulls a trigger that allows me rationalize a rare credit card purchase v.s. having the most recent, best sounding available Dead show that I want. I think all of the Spring '90 shows are keeper's. When I saw how soon this box-set ship's to me I got excited. Usually I order then forget that I ordered until it shows up in the mailbox. However these show's arrive in just 4 short weeks !!! My last Brent shows were Cal State U. Dominguez Hills LA, May 5th and 6th 1990. I always dig bands that would use a B-3 organ plus Brent's 4 leslie speaker cabinets filtering that distinct organ sound in stereo all around the stage. These were all Jerry n Brent's last shows. After Brent passed, the bands number of song's selected for a tour was slashed in half. So for me I will look forward to having a lot of fun digesting this release. At Nassau Coliseum we would see the remote truck, daily parked just around the corner from the truck ramp. I believe the crew stayed at our Marriott in the Coliseum's parking lot. So now 24 years later (pinch-me), I have just placed an order to own the actually disc, from the 24-track Master tapes made in that remote truck. I listened to one of these teaser-tracks on GD radio and the sound CRUSHED on internet 64kb radio. Also on here too! (Pasted from Dead.net) HDCD provides higher resolution when played in an HDCD-equipped CD player, and offers superior sound when played in regular CD players. HDCD CDs can be played in all CD players. Cub sez: but why would you?
  • Mr. Jack Straw
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    "The reason the SSDD has not sold out is because you can buy it on Amazon for less then Dead.net. You do not get any of the extras, but you get the music in its entirety and the dvd. For many, that is all they want." Very, very true. There's an unlimited version out there, with no cap on sales, since this is a release that the folks at Rhino must have deemed to be in high demand and that would appeal to non-Deadheads. I'm not surprised that the 30,000 SSDD special edition CD/DVD pack hasn't sold out. I mean, I'm someone who has bought everything they've put out since the days of Dick Latvala, but if I had known that there was going to be a unlimited, less expensive CD/DVD SSDD set that just didn't have the cool packaging, I would have certainly bought that one. Instead, I dropped over 50 bucks on 3 cds and a DVD, because they hadn't announced the wide release when I placed my order.
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    I, too, wish the cost of this box set was cheaper, but I'm not sure that the cost would decrease significantly without all of the schwag. Most of the releases here average $10 per disc, whether it's Dave's Picks ($29 for three CD's), or Spring 1990 TOO ($240 for 23 CD's). So that's about $10 or so for the extra trinkets. I agree that they're a novelty, and not necessary, but it doesn't look like they add that much to the cost. I've held off on ordering the new Spring 1990 box set. It is expensive. Then I heard the songs... WOW! They sound OUTSTANDING! So I picked up a little extra summer work and now I'm going to order it.
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    Spacebro - Like you I prefer the physical media. I care more about the music than the trinkets. I would prefer to have just music versions. I'll thumb through the book once. In fact, for Spring90 I copied the music to my pc and put everything back in the shipping box, since that was cool. It wasn't until recently where I re-organized my cabinet in prep for S90TOO, that I took the box out of the shipping box and pulled the CD cases out and added them to the rest of the Dead CDs in chronological order. What I was initially replying to is that there are cloud services - amazon, apple, etc. But there are also backup specific services like carbonite, mozy, dropbox, idrive. People might want to check it out. But note to most users they take a long time to copy unless you want to spend some scratch... I have my music on a pair of mirrored hard drives. I periodically back them up to a couple of USB drives and also a Seagate Central (like USB drive, but has ethernet cable too for a cheap network attached solution). I suspect I will probably eventually go to an online service if I don't build or buy some more robust NAS systems with RAID6 parity protection.
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    I think they planned well with Spring 90 Part 2 with downloads, a single hard copy show, and the big box so I am not surprised that it is not sold out yet. It will. Come December there will be holiday purchases. Having said all of that, small boxes are the way to go with the Winterlands, Fillmore West 69 being larger with a book, Spring 77 in an even larger and a more handsome box with bigger book too. The Spring 90s and E72 Titanic Box are great but being somewhat of a completist and sympathetic to those Heads with less money for everything I vote for more like The Winterlands yet favoring Spring 77 for a future release model. Spring 77 was a compromise and a very beautiful one at that! As others have noted -- eventually all limited releases sell out. Smaller boxes could mean more variety of years and decades? Yes, yes, yes, customer rewards discounts are a fabulous idea. And Now I urge Dave to consider N.Y.C. MSG September 1979 as a box set with Claney's (?) Alaska 1980 Land of the Midnight Sun Box. Many here would be very, very happy with those releases. Space Bro gets a box of his choosing as well,but, after the two boxes above. God Bless Bobby and his wife and children. Heal, brother, heal.
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    The reason the SSDD has not sold out is because you can buy it on Amazon for less then Dead.net. You do not get any of the extras, but you get the music in its entirety and the dvd. For many, that is all they want. I myself bought the first Spring '90 Box and I jumped on TOO as soon as I received the email notice. I cannot wait! Judging by the Listening Parties, the sound is going to be phenomenal. But other then the book that is included, I really have no use for the other doodads, ticket stubs, etc. that are included. And I know that I will read the book once and then put it away for many, many years. I would like to see the price of these box sets kept lower by eliminating all of the extras. Just give us the music in a nice case, like they do with the DaP releases and let it go at that. I have a few downloads but I prefer to have the physical discs. As SB pointed out, I burn all of my downloads to discs anyway. I love my iPod, but I have had two of them shit the bit with no notice and watched thousands of hours of music disappear in an instant. Rock on
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    I would agree that the download options make the "rush to buy" priority for some a little lower than previous limited edition sets where no download options were offered. In regards to comparisons from the Dead from the era of this set to '69 or even '77 in particular, and line-up performance quality and sales figures, I can point to the May '77 box as one specific example. That box, which was released June 11th 2013 and significantly less expensive than this set has only recently sold out. One could even take the 8/27/72 Sunshine Daydream release, and being a show that is widely considered as THE most popular show the Dead ever played (I would say definitive), which btw was/is even far less expensive yet, was released 11 months and a day ago or so and still hasn't sold out of the limited editions. Certainly that release and it's availability in multiple formats and volume could again dictate why that particular show, and one of such a highly regarded caliber for many, and from the most saturated year release wise, is still available to purchase. That one, I am surprised hasn't sold out of the 30,000 units. The vinyl version did sold out quickly though at 5000 units. This leads to a question. Does era, price and volume play a role in how fast and why certain releases have sold out faster? I would say, both none of the above and all of the above. I go back to the Road Trips series and point out that April Fools '88 was one of the very first of that series to sell out right along with Fillmore 5/15/70 and Denver '73. Many of the '70s era RTs releases still have yet to sell out. Even the '93 Cal Expo release has sold out. Perhaps there are other factors as to why some eras and/or particular releases sell out faster than others, and perhaps not. The Dave's Picks series subscriptions, which have heavily slanted heavily towards the '70s, and even cheaper yet individually, after three years has yet to sell out. Perhaps the subscriptions will set out for 2015. Another factor to consider is that there are likely many people who buy up multiple copies, whether to give them to friends and acquaintances and/or to resell. So am I surprised that S'90 (TOO) hasn't sold out yet? No, not really, but it will. On another sort of related point... Would I purchase downloads of releases? I have but would rather not. The real estate that physical media takes up versus electronic storage is an acceptable trade-off for me. If I have physical media taking up storage space, I'd rather it be factory manufactured with the sleeves and artwork rather than CDRs or recordable DVDs, especially if I spend money on them. A recent incident happened where about 70% of the music on my computer just suddenly vanished. I have disc back-ups of most of it o am ok, but am bummed that the handful of purchased downloads on my hard drive have vanished. Thankfully I haven't invested much into downloadable media, but if a $100 plus dollar download disappeared before getting a chance to make back-ups, I would be extremely pissed. A lesson here. If you do purchase downloads, you damn well better make disc back-ups or on other hard drives. They will eventually crash at some point. Manufactured obsolescence at it's worst, but that another debate...
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    I'd been putting off that "chore" (assembling 3/24/90) ever since I got the first spring 90 box, and was doing that while listening to the 3/15/90 show I mentioned below. Finally have it in iTunes as a full album and burned CDs; for some reason I still like to have physical copies. When I said "unfortunately" I just meant that I didn't get to go to any of the spring shows in 90. I did have a great time at the Tinley Park shows, but the last run of shows I had gone to prior to that was the alpine valley 89 run which were x-factor heavy and full of all the golden yummies. Tilnley Park as a venue was awful, and for some reason I didn't move to the lawn where I understand the sound was much better. It was still a great time, and realizing a couple of days later that I would never get to see Brent again made me realize how lucky I was to have been at those shows. My first show was 7/4/81 Manor Downs, Texas. There are decent copies of this show on the archive. If you haven't heard it check it out. Very wild and strange jamming; the PITB is very unique, and it has one of the last (maybe the last) of the really extended NFA's. A lot of folks mention the next year's Manor Downs show which went past midnight into Jerry's birthday and was a great show also, but the '81 show was x-factor from start to finish. The sugar mags is one of the most rocked out you will ever hear - I think I remember the taping compendium describe it as "ludicrously powerful". Understatement.
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    Listening to my recently assembled 3/24/90 and just received 3/15/1990 this week- making sure there are no bugs with anteni on 3/24 before the full tour in September. Can't wait! Before tonight I have been listening to DVP 11 and though I still think the '70s Dead is overall more powerful and can better turn on a dime with just one drummer- there is no denying what Brent brought to the table and the band as a whole has a more party vibe. Anyway not trying to start a debate, we've been down that road before. Just goes to show that each era should be appreciated on its own for its own vibe- I really need to remember that the next time I feel all estimated prophet about the '70s hahaha its all good. I even go back to dicks pick 27 with Vince every so often for that first set especially.
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What's Inside:
•144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
•A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
• Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
•8 complete shows on 23 discs
      •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

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I can't wait to hold this in my hand. Keep them coming, i am in! First box set is through the roof, sooooo well done, sound is amazing, keep the good times rollin. Jerry thank's you, i thank you. A great time to be alive.
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My copy arrived Downunder this afternoon (Tuesday) so glad I didn't pay extra for the express delivery. Another beautiful box, now for the music.
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My big box arrived yesterday in sunny South Australia and in every which way, the total package and contents are just absolutely perfect!
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Thank you Dead.net A very beautiful box and I can not wait to start listening. While waiting for this I have been doing the rounds of 72-73 but this tour is my favourite. Only complaint is that the music is 'too perfect' hahaha. From Camden to Rydalmere I will be rocking these shows to and from work. Think I will start tonight though by putting 3/14 on my ipod. Thank you to all those who worked on this box set. Great job!
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Love Ryan Adams, and looking forward to the new album. I will try to get to my local shop today to pick up the wax.
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Does anyone know where I could find digital/.jpg versions of the "album art" for each of the individual shows in the Spring 1990 TOO box? Thanks for any help!
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My box just now arrived at my doorstep in Tennessee. A day earlier than I expected! Box number 5,837 of 9,000.
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Saw Ryan last night in DC for his record release show. He was in great spirits and the band sounded really tight. New stuff was pretty strong, if a bit poppy. Surprised, but I don't think he played anything pre Cold Roses/Jacksonville Nights. No covers, though people did holler out for Wharf Rat and Bird Song. Good time all around.
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Yes I think wjonjd is right. Reading about the mixup "I know the packaging and shipping of these is probably outsourced..". I admit I buy a few CDs a month. Many come from ImportCDs. Same packaging, labeling, and return address in Shepherdsville KY as dead.net. Still waiting on a shipping notice for my TOO box.
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I PAID 160.00 FOR THE DOWNLOADS AND THERE IS NOTHING TO DOWNLOAD. JUST EMPTY LINKS. EVENTUALLY IT TELLS YOU THAT YOU'VE EXCEEDED THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DOWNLOADS. CUSTOMER SERVICE DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE. THEY TOLD ME IT TAKES 7-10 DAYS FOR THE DOWNLOADS TO ARRIVE.
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Rhino moved over 1,000 units this week. That means they will all be gone in about a week from now, so please, all of you true Heads, get them now while they are still available. I don't want to see anyone miss out and I certainly do not want this site filled for weeks with folks complaining that they didn't get it and that Rhino screwed them by limiting the amount sold. Anyone who wants this (and who wouldn't?) has had plenty time to get on board. You procrastinators out there, now is the time to pull the trigger or forever be quiet. I am counting the hours until mine hits CT. this Friday.Rock on
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I'm shocked that this has arrived in Canada for the release date. I'm pretty rural and don't think i've ever received an official release within 3 weeks of launch. The box is beautiful looking - can't wait to get into it. Problem is, I'm still digesting DaP 11 which only just (finally) arrived a few days ago. $23.53 duty for you other canucks out there ...
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My copy arrived today, very happy with it. Really nice box, solid sound quality. The coin is really a nice touch. If you are still on the fence, better get it now while you can. I'm sure the second they sale out they will be on Ebay for 40% more. Great release, now please tell us about DP12. Jam on! Peace
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I got it! Rushed home at lunch to dig in to it (and a great ham and swiss sandwich). Anyone know how they decide who gets which box? I pre-ordered it on the first day, and I got 8447! Sound is incredible. Definitely thinking about framing the faux stubs and backstage passes - add a little Spring 90 to my music poster wall.
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I got it! Rushed home at lunch to dig in to it (and a great ham and swiss sandwich). Anyone know how they decide who gets which box? I pre-ordered it on the first day, and I got 8447! Sound is incredible. Definitely thinking about framing the faux stubs and backstage passes - add a little Spring 90 to my music poster wall.
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AAC is a lossy format, comparable to high quality mp3. ALAC (Apple Lossless) is…lossless. It says AAC above, but I have read these should be Apple Lossless files. Just wanted to clarify for any confusion that might be here. Carry on….CARRY ON...
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The sound is amazing! Gonna be a long, long, crazy, crazy night Silky, silky, crazy, crazy night.
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So where's the number at as I can't find it on mine?
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It's on the coin under the lid.
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Thanks fourwinds!
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I'd like to buy this spectacular box. I'd like to touch and smell all the things inside this box and of course listen these HDCDs, but I live in a country named Brazil. Some people in Europe don't like to pay U$50 -U$100 in import taxes and fees. It would be a dream to me pay this. Do you believe that in my country I would pay over U$240,00 only in import taxes + fees? I'm not kidding! 100%! It's our goverment....The highest taxes and no hospitals, no schools... ok some new and beatiful soccer stadiums. Does anyone know a place on earth where the import taxes and fees are so high? I have U$ 240,00 but I don't have U$ 520,00 ( 240 - box + 40 - shipping to Brazil + 240 or more from import taxes and fees). Hey you from USA, buy it! Think in my case. The price is not so high. I need to move to USA, Europe or maybe the sunny Australia. It's sad to be a Dead head in Brazil...
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I don't know how to get a suggestion to David, so I'm going to post it here and hope that someone relevant sees it. Regarding the downloads.... since most people probably don't burn their lossless downloads to CD, is it possible to have the second sets made seamless for the downloads? I understand the fade-ins and fade-outs at the end of the discs, but if the files aren't being burned to disc it would be nice to have Drums>Space seamless, instead of "Drums>Space fade-out" followed by "Drums fade-in>Space". Just a thought! Aside from that... keep doing that awesome thing that you do!
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If I'm not mistaken I read they would not be ready until the end of the month...?
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I just read my mistake.
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No, you're right. I'm just asking if, when they appear, they can be in that format (if they aren't already).
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I am sure you will get it , even if there is a hiccup right now. I'm one of those (have to have it just in case people) I bought the box but it will be transferred to my pc and burnt for the car or whatever. I just don't have the pc power to trust myself not losing it. I hope you get it the way you want. I know customer service must be inundated with problems right now. But they are good people.
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1. We believe the technical issues with the downloads are now fixed. Please speak up if you experience an alternative reality. 2. Apple Lossless, CD quality audio are available now. The HD FLAC files will be along soon. 3. Cover art is now available on the download page. Sorry for the issues, but hope all is good now. Thanks and happy downloading!
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does anyone know if spring vol one downloads are going to be the 24 track or 2 track
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Oh no!I told myself (and my wife) that I didn't need this box especially after I saw the price... then I heard some of the music and saw the spoiler video... Can I let it go? It's going to be a tough decision. Don't have much 1990 in the collection... But it sounds so good!
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Jump on it man! Less than 1500 as of yesterday. Better to grab it while ya can than regret it down the road...
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Just a note about the lossless downloads. Since the ALAC files are lossless, this means they can be easily converted to wav and flac (and back again) with zero change in sound quality. So you can create your own flacs from alac. Now, since the flacs are listed as "HD FLAC" I,m going to assume that they will probably be 24bit 96khz files as opposed to 16bit 44.1khz (cd quality) or at least something over what they are encoding for the alac files. However, (and what I'm about to discuss frequently upsets audiophiles), I urge you to google studies concerning people's ability to distinguish 24bit 96khz from 16bit 44.1khz recordings. There have been several from top universities, and their results and methodology have been extensively scrutinized. These are all scientifically designed studies, some using surprisingly large sample sizes. Most of these studies are fairly similar to each other. Double blind - no one participating in each listening session knows at the time which recordings are hd (24) or sd (16). They used multiple audio systems ranging from top end systems and speakers designed by audiophiles, down to basic systems. They used professional headphones down to basic equipment. They chose many different types of music. They checked to make sure that hd recordings were from the same source/mix as the sd recordings. That is frequently not the case, by the way, and is one reason many people are sure they can tell the difference. They usually chose large numbers of participants who self identify as audiophiles or not, musicians or not, a large range of ages, backgrounds, etc. The results of all studies recognized as scientific (that I am aware of) have been basically the same. The rate at which each user can correctly pick which recordings are sd or hd is about 50%. A coin toss. Audiophiles fared no better than others, with highest percentages being around 52%, and some studies then when back to people like that and found that the more music samples they tried the closer the success rate approaches 50%. Some of the write ups go into great detail into methodology of the studies, and if you read them you will begin to see how hard it is to try to duplicate doing tests like this at home (although it can be done). Some of the things that can bias results are NOT obvious. Many will always disagree, but so far as I know NO study has found ANYONE, who can, under their controlled environment, distinguish 16 bit recordings from 24 bit recordings from the same source at anything significantly over 50% (same as guessing). Btw, this doesn't mean things like SACD don't sound better than their cd counterparts. But they use more playback tracks than stereo (like 5.1), are almost always special mixes, etc. it's not apples to apples, and these studies indicate the great improvement is not due to just the difference between 24 bit and 16 bit or 96khz and 44.1khz. Just something to think about before you spend extra for hd when the source is identical.
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If they would have had them listen to 24/96 flies on a good system for a period of say a week or so and then switched back to 16/44 files then I think they would have heard a difference.
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Now what we need is Fillmore West '69 and Europe '72 available in HD FLAC.
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THIS is the box set. I have everything the band has ever put out...This outdoes the original 1990 box set for sound and it out does it for quality of the box set. I LOVE THE TIGER COIN IN THE COVER! OMG! It nearly brought tears to my eyes.... Jerry would have loved this. He really would have. Listening to disc 1, song 1 as I type... *sigh* can't wait til I get to the shows I was at. This is so nice. THANK YOU DAVE LEMIEUX.
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#711 has arrived in Denmark. Really cool number, just like #710 would have been. Anybody here got that?This box is a work of art, and I've not even started listening yet. Thank you, David & Rhino!
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Since Spring 1990 (The Other One) is now available digitally, why not do what you did for the Europe '72 box set and offer the shows individually as well? Not every Head has that sort of spare change lying around, and it would be nice to have the opportunity to hear more of this truly great era. Anyway, I went out and picked up Wake Up To Find Out as a consolation prize (but what a prize!), and am not interested in paying for a show I already own. Anyone else out there think this is a good idea?
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As stated in the digital download FAQs, FLAC files cannot be played in Windows Media Player. However, there is a plug-in which makes this possible, namely "Directshow Filters for Ogg Vorbis, Speex, Theora, FLAC, and WebM" from Xiph.org. The file (opencodecs_0.85.17777.exe) can be found here: http://www.xiph.org/dshow/
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@fourwindsblow - That may be. And it may not. Before sticking to your opinion on this go ahead and look up the studies that have been done on this, read them thoroughly, and see if you change your mind. Because in order for what you say to be true all of the studies would have to be flawed in just such a way to create the 50% success rate they all get. See what you think after you read them. Or don't. It's not my money. And, even if someone can't hear a difference, if they think they can and they're happier, that's fine too. You say things like "on a good system." Have you looked at what they used. Most of them didn't just use a "good system". The very purposely used severly "excellent systems" AND several "very good" systems AND several "basic" systems, etc. That's the whole point behind a truly scientific study. Address all known variables that might bias results. Not just the "sound system", but the people (audiophile, musician, other), ages (teenagers with young years, twenties, thirties, etc.), listening environment, kinds of music, and even factors that wouldn't necessarily seem relevent like educational background. They make as sure as possible that something as simple as "as is the system good enough" doesn't affect the ability of the study to be able to answer the question they are studying - can people hear the difference between A and B. Anyway, as long as people are happy it doesn't really matter.
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wow its so nice. time 2 lock myself in my house and ignore the world 4 a few days
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wow its so nice. time 2 lock myself in my house and ignore the world 4 a few days
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For what it's worth, whether you believe in the superior quality of high-definition recordings or not, HD-Tracks is advertising digital downloads of Wake Up to Find Out: Nassau Colisuem: Uniondale, NY 3-29-1990 at both 96/24 ($40.98) and 192/24 ($53.98) sampling rates. Presumably, it's available now for download. http://www.hdtracks.com/wake-up-to-find-out-nassau-coliseum-uniondale-n… It will be interesting to see if the rest of the set is listed at these higher rates.
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I'm curious if this experiment were performed with a recording of a piece of music the listener was very familiar with. Could they pick up any nuances between the 16 bit and 24 bit versions? I have not read the study, so I don't know that info. But if one listens to a piece of music that person may not intimately know, I think the brain will be absorbing the composition as a whole, so it might not pick up the nuances between 16 bit and 24 bit.
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What I was saying was have them listen to 24/96 files for a little while before doing the A/B tests.
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I'm in agreement. I was just curious if I could tell the difference with some of my "reference CDs": Darkside of the Moon, Aja, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Revolver, DP3, DaP5, Orig LedZep Box, Babylon by Bus on really good audio gear. With that said, as I wait patiently for S90TOO (Friday delivery), I've autoripped the amazon mp3 of Wake Up set that I bought for my buddy's birthday in a couple of weeks and it sounds awesome on the office stereo - can't wait to crank it up from the boxset in HDCD on the big boy stereo! Since I only have a better than average stereo (far from an audiophile rig found on audiogon), I don't think I could tell a difference.
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I'm pretty sure that Dark Side of the Moon is one of the ones that had a complete remix/remaster than the CD. Here is a link that shows and describes the differences in the mastering of the CD and the SACD of DSM. When you are done reading it you will see than anybody would probably be able to tell the differenced between them, even if they had both been put out in 16/44.1 http://www.stereophile.com/news/11649/ You really need to read the studies to begin to realize how much went into trying to find out whether the human ear can detect those differences. The people looking had no agenda other than trying to answer the question. It can't be too much of a coincidence that all the academic studies come up with the same results.
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