Grateful Dead

I heard rumors that we may see an additional show in the bay area. Any confirmation?

I like when Bobby sings Catfish John too but yeah Mission in the Rain is a really beautiful song. "But I'll get back, On my feet some day. The good Lord willing, If he says I may. I know that the life, I'm living's no good. I'll get a new start, Live the life I should"

Gigi, were those mail order tickets?

Got my MSG tix and waiting on my Philly tix for both nights!YIPEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! Peace,Gigi

I saw him play Mission in the rain on 1/14/95 at the Warfield. Between Garcia and the Grateful Dead, I saw him almost a 100 times, and that was one of the best shows I ever saw. The Shinning Star was about 25 minutes.

Wasn't directing tickets to Ticketsnow because they NEVER repeat NEVER went on sale through TICKETBASTARD for Chicago on January 24. Read the truth I posted about this on that date. What a rottem and wasteful experience that was!!!

who's gonna put up the yellow tape? The self-appointed cops? I hope they do Mission in the Rain at Shoreline, that's one of my favorite JGB tunes. Brings tears to the eyes every time.

I don't want to have to defend TM but they would not reidirect you to TicketsNow. That would be your choice to visit that site not a mandate from TM. It seems to me that all the really good seats were sold through the presale and GDTS TOO, leaving TM with the rest. Now how do the TicketsNow and Stubhubs get a hold of tickets that I am not totally sure of but I know for sporting events season ticket holders and corporate ticket holders can sell their seats to a company like Stubhub so that they can turn around and sell them for you. I guess you can also make a few bucks doing that. Since there are no season ticket holders for a concert I am not sure how it works for that but I imagine corporations flat out own some seats in venues and they sell off concert tickets to stubhub, that part is just my guess. To be honest I'd rather buy concert tickets through TM than any other outlet especially for shows that sell out fast because TM is the only distributor that can handle thousands of orders at once. If TM would have been used for the presale rather than Musictoday, then that whole fiasco would have never happened. Although I thought LiveNation did a good job. Musictoday did not. "Half of my life I spent doing time for some other f@#ker's crime the other half found me stumbling around drunk on burgundy wine"

The link I provided doesn't appear to work anymore. There are also many articles if you go to Google News and enter Springsteen Ticketmaster in the search box. When others on this thread suggested that Ticketmaster was funneling tickets to TicketsNow, it didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Ticketmaster's reputation and relationship with the artists and the public would be so damaged (by underhandedly not letting the average fan get their hands on tickets at face price while at the same time making a huge profit on the secondary market) that I just can't see Ticketmaster being so stupid. OTOH, I suspect that it is true that there ARE underhanded deals going on. It's no longer on their website, but the New York State Attorney General issued a report on ticket distribution entitled "Why Can't I get Tickets?" (or something similar) that showed that ticket brokers pay bribes to the venues (or whoever is issuing tickets) to be able to buy blocks of tickets to hot events. Now, the report might be quite outdated today (it was issued around 10 years ago) because scalping is now legal in NY and also the growth of internet sales. But corruption is timeless. TicketsNow and StubHub are not ticket sellers per se. They bring buyer and seller together, and they make a commission from both. So the buyer pays the asking price plus 10%, and the seller receives the proceeds less 10%. Nice business, huh? If the ticket goes unsold, it means nothing to TicketsNow or StubHub. It's the owner of the tickets that loses out. The complaint in the Springsteen case does appear to be that, like for The Dead, customers who couldn't get tickets were suggested to visit TicketsNow, NOT that Ticketmaster redirected tickets to TicketsNow, bypassing fans. The question then would be, who were the tickets redirected to? If TicketsNow themselves, that would be a big scandal, and seems unlikely to me. So it makes more sense that all kinds of people with no intention of going to the concert try to get tickets in order to resell them at a profit. Just take a look at all the ticket sellers on eBay...anybody can become a ticket reseller these days, all you need are a computer and an eBay account.

Actually, there's a third venue where mail order demand exceeds supply (PA-Spectrum...2nd night only). Here's the closing paragraph from the GDTS e-mail dated 1/22: We are waiting for the last bit of mail postmarked the 13th to arrive before starting the ticketing process. Orders that we are unable to fill from MSG, Spectrum and Shoreline reserved will be will be returned before we start the ticketing process. Tickets will start going out in the next few weeks. So, if you equate "a few weeks" with three, and the note came out two weeks ago, we're still a week or two away from seeing tickets in our mailboxes. And the poor souls who end up drawing short straws for MSG, Spectrum and/or Shoreline will be notified first. So the two takeaways from all this are <1> no near-term news is good news (for NY, PA & CA patrons, anyway), and <2> patience is an admirable (if elusive) virtue! We'll know soon!