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  • PeggyO
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    Reflections on a Tour
    Well, the Spring Tour 2009 is in the bag and was definitely one for the books! That's for sure. I know a lot of people might think the Dead are dead without certain members, and to be honest, the last couple of tours the Dead have done were great experiences for me, but I always felt like people were "sitting in" to fill some big shoes left behind. Even Warren, in 2004, felt like he was filling in. So I went to the LA Forum show expecting what we got in 04. Oh how wrong I was! That first throat grabbing chord of the show was like the band was saying to everyone in the Forum, "Listen up people! We're not f*#cking around here, we're here to play so let's get down to it!" And then BOOM, right into that unreal VLB groove, with a beat that you just had to move to. I have been doing tours since the late 70's/early 80's and to my ears, this band has never been better. On the one hand, they're tighter, yet they're also looser. I cant explain it, and honestly, that's about the best one can say about the Dead when they're really "on", "well, I cant explain it man, you just have to experience it..." ;) I've been keeping up with the Tour, listening to the shows online as the Tour progressed and the first half was just okay for me. But in LA it felt like something happened that night and everything the boys had been striving for just all fell into place that night. The Forum felt like an old school East Coast indoor arena show, complete with rabid, hardcore heads that were so grateful to be back at the party again. This was not a "best of" tour. This was a "here's who we are now, dig it" tour, and man did I love what I heard on the West Coast leg of this Tour. That night in LA, I realized that Warren and Jeff no longer felt like they were filling in for anyone anymore. The *were* the Dead just as much as Bobby, Phil, Billy or Mickey are. To me, the Dead has always been a band in flux. There have been so many iterations of them I've sort of lost count. So to those who lament a Jerryless Dead, all I can say is, you don't know what you're missing. Sure I miss Jerry and I miss Brent. But the Dead as they are right now? Sound the best I've ever heard them and they're not stale, they're still out there pushing the envelope and really, isn't that what this is all about? So yeah, I no longer get weepy when I hear Brokedown Palace or Ripple or Box of Rain. I just revel in the fact that I get to experience this amazing thing we call The Dead, once again. And I am truly Grateful. One final comment...It felt so great to experience Shakedown once again and the lot scenes in LA and the Gorge were excellent. Like some upthread said, I found my self also saying things, and using expressions that I haven't used in a long time...It felt good to have the tribe back together again, didn't it?!
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    My sentiments exactly. It was a bittersweet night. Very cool to stay up until 3 am+ listening to the whole show, with great interviews and commentary thrown in during the set break. But it was so great to back out there catching 4 shows, eagerly anticipating seeing the setlists of the shows I didn't catch each morning, listening to the downloads etc. I'm going to miss all that. I'm firmly in the camp that thinks the music has changed/evolved in a great way....new sounds, tunes I never thought I'd get to hear live, Rhythm Devils taking it to new heights each night etc etc. Warren and Jeff are as good as it gets in the post Jerry/Brent/Keith/Pigpen era, which is to say they're both amazing musicians who fit right into the fabric of the band and helped to make the magic each night. Jeff is a monster on the keys and Warren managed to channel the ghosts of Jerry/Brent/Pigpen in his paying and singing while keeping it new and fresh and his own as well. Branford's interview during the set break was spot on: they're older, they've each gone on to do new things are are coming at playing together from a new angle, pushing the boundaries and not just treading the worn path. By the time they got to the Gorge, they seem to have all completely melded musically and got the bugs all worked out. We may not see them out on the road two thirds of the year anymore....at least as The Dead, but I gotta think the fun they seemed to be having along with the embrace of the fans will pull them back for another go around or two down the road. And yes, it was really cool to hear Mickey thank the crew and bring them out onstage for some well deserved applause. I've seen them with Jerry from the early 80's onward, seen Phil and his band, Ratdog, the Dead 2003/4 and I can say I had as good a time at these shows and I've had at any. All different, all excellent and all the music of the Grateful Dead which is what it's all about. Thanks guys!
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    Not sure if this is the appropriate forum to use but I'm sure Marye will let me know. I just went to the GDTS TOO website for the first time in years to see about Ratdog tix and was amazed at what i found. It prompted me to send them the following... Please don't take offense. Just a little constructive criticism. It's been many years since I've visited your site. Back in the day I thought it was the greatest thing ever. The days of calling the hotline every day sometimes multiple times were over, but come on guy's, your site is really quite primitive by today's standards. To my dismay, when I tried to fill out the credit card form I discovered it wasn't interactive. I consider myself a caveman for not having a printer/copier/scanner combo, but times are tough. I don't even know where to find a fax machine. Aren't we supposed to be a paperless society by now? This planet needs all the trees she can produce. The decorative envelopes are still very cool, and should be an option, but how about an online interactive version of the envelope? I'm sure there are thousands of heads out there into web design who would be willing to collaborate and put something together for you. I'm not a designer myself but I'm willing to help wherever I can. Just something to consider. Peace and much thanks for all you do. So this would be a shout out to all of you webmasters out there if they are receptive. I know youre out there, a simple Google search for anything Dead related shows me there's some mad skills out there. I have not recieved a response yet, but when I do I'll post it.
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    Maybe I should of gone for the CDs too!
  • thor369
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. she is doing much better. it was an asthma and panic attack type combo, scary stuff. my CD isnt a download, it was a CD i paid for, at the show, they was recording off the mixing boards, and pressing official show CD's on the spot for $25, with show date, and place, on official The Dead CDs. it is why i dont want the download to replace my CD, my puter dont have good speakers, and i only listen to my CDs in my car, or my headset CD player. i cant reburn 1 on my puter, and it isnt the official CD with the printed faces on them.
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    Bringing the magic home...
    Chicago was incredible... 20 years since since my love's and mine last show but with one more in tow - our 11 year old son whose favorite song right now is Throwing Stones. All with a different yet better spirit. The magic was back. It does remind me of reading a book where you don't understand the words and you go back later and understand it even more after life experience. I started reading the book long ago and loved it - and It means even more now. The shows brought smiles, healing and joy. Peace Mike P.S. Please Tour again !!!! - You are beautiful together ! Such a long long time to be gone and a short time to be there
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    fillmore, and anyone else having issues
    you too
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    pm me the details. We're working on this one.
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    I feel the same way, could never have said it any better. Great post!
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. I thought all the shows were just awesome. Thanks guys for giving us the magic again. Sure would be nice to hear the Chicago shows and relive some nice memories again.
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The band says Happy New Year with an announcement of almost twenty shows in April and May.  More details to come!

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that sucks that scalpers write off the ticket amount, rather than get people into a show.....I always wondered about that.....
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Does anyone know how to get the access code to purchase tickets?
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There are currently 374 users and 1226 guests online. "You know it's gonna get stranger, so let's get on with the show!"
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I just attempted to set up a new account so I could get a new verification code just in case that is the access code. It wouldn't let me do it even with a new user name & password. Can't change the email address.
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One post mentions just before they go onsale?????
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Your access code is how many shows you saw with Jerry alive, minus the times you saw the Other Ones, or The Dead divided by your security code on the back of your credit card... It appears that if you are registered in the ticket page, you will have access to the presale at noon EST no code, just get yer ass all reg'd up on the site...go! Do it! Now!
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You know who is gonna get screwed? Any head that buys extra tickets for the show and has someone cancel out on them. Because, when you're at the arena and have an extra $100 ticket or even a pair of extra's, and you're dealin' with everyone who's looking for a "miracle", you're gonna eat a lot of your money. Even Madison Square Garden is going to have extra's available. I have never been to a show at the Garden for any show (except maybe U2) that didn't have people with extra's. Seeing how the Dead are flooding the NY market, with a Nassau, a NYC and 2 Secaucus shows, there are going to be plenty of tickets available, especially when most NY heads will only get tix for one or maybe two shows... remember... back in the day, we all did the whole NY run... even the 9 show stretch in 88.
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I have a suggestion: save your money. Especially if you can draw upon fine memories of shows past. Lets face it, this is not the same band and these are not the same times. To try to relive them is futile. Even the lot scene has a "been-there-done-that" sort of vibe to it. If you have the means, the money would probably be better spent (and you'll probably have a much better time for a lot less of it) hanging out with some good friends and/or checking out some local music. These hard-working artists could certainly use our support more than these millionares. If you really need a Dead fix, you could always pop in a good bootleg, grab some microbrews or whatever else makes you happy, and have a good-ol' time with your buds (no pun intended ;-) ). Remember, the Dead (and esp. Jerry) never wanted to be about being the center of attention, just the background music for your good time. Even better, if you have this kind of disposable income, I suggest sending some of it to your local food bank or some other organization that will help people less fortunate than you. They could use the $100 a whole lot more, and it will put your love-thy-neighbor ideology to a lot better use than "miracle tickets" or buying t-shirts in the lot with cute sayings on them. These are just suggestions-please no flames, just do what seems right in your heart.
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i thought the access code was = to the number of pounds we've put on minus how much older we are since we last saw them with Jerry..lol
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with this VIP tour package crap? how freakin' elitist can you get? who is dan of consideritdan? i can understand ticket prices to a degree, but i'm reconsidering ordering tickets if this is what has become of "the grateful dead". used to be we all had a good shot at good tickets -- now they're for the folks who have the extra cash. it's really sad.
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I am going to guess that because live nation is running this...the first 20 rows will be 100...just like the allmans at the beacon...they were 150 and the rest were 99......so i bet 90% of the tixs are 55-65 $$ which is fine by me
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the only $50 tix are behind stage at the venues. everything else is the $100 range.
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FYI Just got the word from customer service - no access code
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I've been thinking about this for a bit now, and am realizing some things... a) The Dead are not conscious of the current times we are in b) The venues are probably charging an arm and a leg just for this band to play in them, let alone concession BS and all that. c) BUT, ultimately the decision of what to charge should and DOES come down to the band, because if they chose not to play because of what "their" ticket agency wants people to pay, there would be no show. d) Does that make The Dead corporately controlled? YES e) I'm sure that if asked, they'd say they aren't "down" with the high ticket prices, but then again they need the money (seemingly). f) so, they realize that people will pay to see them no matter what the price g) I REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to see the Dead. I never got a chance to with Jerry still alive, but luckily have since had the opportunity to catch Rat Dog with Bob Weir twice, and they were FANTASTIC. I'm sure these shows'll be a blast, BUT reasonably considering everything current in my life and in what appears to be the lives of those around me, this IS a joke. h) I won't compare them to other bands as many others here have already done, because they're the Dead! They are %$@%%^ great! If the opportunity still arises, I will see them. Though, I share the sentiments of those who are complaining about ticket prices to some degree because music isn't about money. i) I was going to attend a Spectrum show in Philly. A thought that's buzzed through my mind is "What if I buy a ticket to the one of two shows there that they end up cancelling due to a lack of ticket sales?" Not saying that'll happen, but seriously, that would suck. j) My band (not that I currently have one) would play for people for hours at 5 bucks a head, and have people just as ecstatically released as the Dead would, if not more. Hell, we'd even cover a dead song or two if that'd please you (it would please us too). Seriously, this REALLY IS a JOKE! But, to everyone who is definitely going to be attending, HAVE A BLAST! If I can, I will still go and I'll be dancing with yous. -G
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How cheap are the tickets there at US? $100 doesnt sound that high. 75 euros it is. Its normal price for a top band/ artist here in europe.
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where are the seating charts/prices? I am just seeing price 1 and 2, but it's not saying where the seats are located.
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Does that mean there is no password and we just purchase through the company handling the tickets @ Noon
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my nerves are so on end i got the shits. Anybody hearing this darkstar from 11/1/68 on the dead channel? wow
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Other way around I believe.Most of the tickets will be 100, and backstage and way in the back will be 65
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They said the "buy tickets" link would become available on the ticketing page during the pre-sale.
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Click on the "more information" button and there's a link for the seating chart, at least there is for Verizon Ctr. Sometimes we live no particular way but our own
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just ordered 2 at MSG...took about an hour, fairly hassle free...
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I'm very disappointed in the almost $100 price per ticket. A very large number for the average working man. I don't know if I will be able to see any of the NY/NJ shows this time around. Bummer.
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Haven't been able to order a single ticket yet. Its been an hour of watching my "winblow" browser stall. What a fiasco. I'll give it a bit more and then just do mail order. Fug it
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have had 3 tickets sitting in my cart for about 45 mins, but have not yet been able to check out. well, at least they haven't disappeared from my cart yet. that is when i'm going to be highly annoyed
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I had a feeling this place was going to go down and posted in here just when it did..It didn't even pick up my comment.. That was very stressful but I did get my lawn seats for Shoreline..It took awhile but patience prevailed...I hope Southerntam got hooked up along with the true fans that have socialized and kept this place fresh the last few weeks
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I got my tickets, but i was clicking blindly. Some of the boxes were blacked out and the buttons were x's. When you scrolled over them they all said the same thing for the address. Damn, nerve racking. opted for the cheaper(<----lol) ticket in d.c. got upper tier, but got the floor section 2 the next night in virginia. Took about an hour also, was pulling my hair out 12:05 and settled down a bit when 12:20 rolled by.
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got in at noon and all the lowers were gone...section 300 but I am in and HAPPY
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It took me over 20 minutes the 1st time to check out do to be so slow and then at the end it said I allowed to much time to elapse..WTF..If it dowes that to you just empty your cart and start over so you don't have to start from square one
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So what's the deal? Are tickets actually getting bought or does the system keep crashing? Was waiting almost an hour in the "waiting area" and then it started to flaking out and I lost my connection. Back in the waiting room and still waiting. What is everyone else's experience?
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likewise, 2 tix in cart and waiting on checkout....45 minutes or morethey're seats worth waiting for at least, fingers crossed "if you get confused..."
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They seem to be unable to handle the volume. Just popped in 6/16/85 to help ease the frustrations. 8)
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I just received word that musictoday is running commadore64 servers! This could take weeks people!
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like everyone else, it was kind of slow and it took about a total of 40 minutes for me...i first requested 4 floor seats at the Forum on 5/9 but it came back and said no floor seats were available. I went back and requested 4 loge tix and got them...should be OK with the seats. while it took a long time, it did keep moving for me and was about the same as any other extremely popular presale that i've been through online. it will be interesting to see how many tickets remain after today's initial rush...
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This ticket process is a fiasco. You boys have lost it, letting this type of thing happen. I couldn't/still can't get in. However, I was able to go see literally thousands of tickets available on places like stubhub right at 12 Noon Eastern. However, I would have had to pay over $400 for an upper bowl section at All State Arena. I've seen the Dead over 50 times in my life, starting in 1977. No more. Where's Jerry when we need him?
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I didn't connect through the link on this site, since my company's content filter was blocking anything with "musictoday" in the title. Somehow got in through the registration page, and then the wait was on. Heaven help anyone trying for multiple shows this way. Now I can't wait to see if my seats are real. The venue map that I'm looking at shows floor seats 1-12 in each section...I've got 13 and 14. Huh? Slowest online ticket experience I've had since dial-up. The ticketing site was definitely overwhelmed....I expect crap seats after the wait, but still scored 10 row. Again, assuming that the seats really exist. Good luck to all and see you at the show!
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i tried in one browser after the screen wouldn't let me update my delivery method and it reset everything to zero with no way of getting it back. by the time i got back in i had lost my sweet upfront seats and had to settle for nose bleeds. atleast i had two browsers going so i got better seats for the second show.ALSO, if you have two browsers going DONT enter card info on both---they read off of eachother. once seats are confirmed in one browser they'll show up in your cart of the other. I don;t want to see anyone get double charged
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This process is a nightmare. The only people that got tickets are the scalpers that are selling them on Craigs List already... What about doing MAIL ORDER again, it worked for many years Still amazed they were not prepared for the internet traffic. this really sucks !
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It took an hour, but I just got two tix for the Denver show. We'll probably be in the ceiling but I don't care! Listen to the river sing sweet songs to rock my soul.... Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right...
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What does that mean ?? I was thinking they maybe unprepared for the volume today especially when I saw over 3,500 people viewing the forums..Shoreline for 4 lawn seats which I wanted including 2 day UPS was 197.50 total..I figured that was a grate deal
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I went to order tix for the next night, ended up changing my mind and hit the shopping cart. It let me check out, took my credit card # and then wrote me this! They were the ones taking forever NOT ME! Unable to process your order, you have exceeded the allowed amount of time to purchase some of your tickets. The following tickets have expired, please remove them from your basket and place your order again. * The Dead (DCU Centre) 4/18/2009 7:30:00 PM - Upper P2$65.00 USD
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Demand is currently very high and you have landed in the waiting area. Do not refresh your screen as you will lose your place in line. As current requests are finalized, those in the waiting area will gain access to the ticketing page. Thank you for your patience. Anybody else at this window and waiting?
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im only 24 so i was to young to enjoy the greatful dead with jerry. however i did see The Dead in 2004 for a two night set that was totaly mind blowing. i already have tickets for the greensboro show and cant wait to see them again. when i saw them in 2004 i was unable to find anything in the parking lot to help with the visuals if you know what i mean. my friends wanted to get right in so i didnt have time to look around. does anyone think ill have a problem finding stuff to make this show really out of this world?
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im only 24 so i was to young to enjoy the greatful dead with jerry. however i did see The Dead in 2004 for a two night set that was totaly mind blowing. i already have tickets for the greensboro show and cant wait to see them again. when i saw them in 2004 i was unable to find anything in the parking lot to help with the visuals if you know what i mean. my friends wanted to get right in so i didnt have time to look around. does anyone think ill have a problem finding stuff to make this show really out of this world?
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im only 24 so i was to young to enjoy the greatful dead with jerry. however i did see The Dead in 2004 for a two night set that was totaly mind blowing. i already have tickets for the greensboro show and cant wait to see them again. when i saw them in 2004 i was unable to find anything in the parking lot to help with the visuals if you know what i mean. my friends wanted to get right in so i didnt have time to look around. does anyone think ill have a problem finding stuff to make this show really out of this world?
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at least we are getting tix. try getting red sox playoff tix in recent years--you sit in the waiting room for 3-6hrs for them to say sold-out
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great. had decent seats IN MY SHOPPING CART then went to browse more and the tickets no longer remained in my cart. pissed. will any of the public sale tickets be decent?
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But i got flr. 2 section q in virgina, they want $400 something for same section on stub hub, got mine for $93 with ups 2 day air<---only because i was afraid to pick another delivery method and have to wait for the page to load again or something.
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I got my three for Wilkes Barre. Finally. It took 55 minutes, numerous page-not-founds, timeouts and locked screens, but I'm going! Was going to try for floor seats, but after all that time, I expected I would get last row floor or yet another error page and I'd rather a decent mid-level than that. Most stressful ticket experience I've ever had on the net. What were they thinking??!! Oh, well, now just 3 more months to wait to get in there and shake my bones!!!