Grateful Dead

any thoughts on the band adding a date or 2 for spring tour? looks like an open shot for you midwest heads..or up in oregon or washington,,other food for thought..It would be cool to bring Donna jean back for the tour..we saw her this summer at a festival out on long Island she was on!! she also sat in with Mickeys band,, made the set for sure.I think her vocals would add/help for this tour.. plus I miss her twirls when they went out there..after reading other folks nightmares with the pre sale.. I feel like I won a lottery prize.. 2 tix for nassau and msg,, nice seats for nassau,, so,so for the garden... still want to try for a road trip..will start collecting empty beer bottles once the snow stops... peace to all,, its good to be here talking up the band,, at this point in my life its good to be anywere...thought? opinions?....

I won't know what seats we've got for a couple of months, but I'm patient. Do you know anything about where folks will be hanging out before/after the shows? I'm not too familiar with Philly (we picked it since we had to hit the road and wanted to see at least two shows for the effort). We've booked some rooms at the Hyatt @ Penn's Landing, but that's only because we saw it listed as part of the VIP packages, so we thought "hmmm, there oughta be at least a few 'heads there" but then again, this venue may not be the epicenter of all things Dead in PA. So if ya know of any good gathering spots for pre- and post-show communing, please reply back. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ One man gathers what another man spills...

Hey guys, Did you know that there are rules of conduct listed under Terms of Service that you agreed to when you signed up for this site? I am just throwing out this reminder because our kind moderator has had to cut people out of the site for not following them. Remember this is not a Ratdog site, you can't be mean here like many of the posts there are Here are the terms of Service: You will not: Post, transmit, or otherwise make available, through or in connection with the Site: o Anything that is or may be (a) threatening, harassing, degrading or hateful; (b)defamatory; (c) fraudulent or tortious; (d) obscene, indecent or otherwise objectionable; or (e) protected by copyright, trademark or other proprietary right without the express prior consent of the owner of such right. Peace If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

i agree with you, but doesnt the constituion override the terms of service? just making an observation.

I would say the parking lot, weather should be nice so this is where I'll be. we usually hang out side an hour or two before and after shows. The lot should be packed to the rim! So yeah you sure did pick a great venue to see the dead. This is last year for the spectrum, its being ripped down to make room for a shopping entertainment centre!

GROUP HUG........

The Grateful Dead played the Spectrum 53 times the most of any musical act.

No, because you signed and agreed to the terms....therefore you gave up your constitutional rights.....seriously, just be nice and you will have to listen to the MUSIC and shine!_________________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

Sure you can act like a butthead,but go do it somewhere else.haters haters go away. don't come back any day. thank's So much for making this site So nice. Peace Tina

My apologies to the Dead, this forum, and the kind people on this site for my recent comments directed towards awest27. Cooler Heads prevail!

I would have thought this forum was not moderated until Hal R mentioned it. I belong to a baseball forum where Yankee and Red Sox fans are more civil to each other.

wasnt being a hater! I tried to calm em down earlier. I just have this damn the man and anti-authority side to me. Just not much of a rules kinda fella, Im sure you can relate.

You can disagree and argue like crazy here if you want but we are expected to focus on the topic and issue, not to turn it into personal slams. One of the great things about the site has been some of the heated passionate discussions; those types of things can inspire deeper thinking. We are bound to disagree on things. Diversity is what makes the world such a colorful place. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

I feel you Travis! I'm used to going to parking lots at the Oakland Coliseum (what do they call it now? The MAC a FEE something or another) and drummin my little Head off enjoying the vibes, cooking phat fires, and enjoying veggie burritos with a little sage stick on the side. They closed down some kind places in SF just like that one earlier. I know that the United Center in Chicago will not have a good parking lot, that being said, I do know alot of heads around here over the now 9 years I've lived here. Will be Heading with some kind peeps just around the corner of the show. _________________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

Why yes, things HAVE gotten a tad overheated here the last few days. In general, wading in while dozens of people are screaming curses at the band, the world and each other is often counterproductive. I am pleased to see folks sticking up for the community and the good vibe, and welcome all newcomers who come here in the same spirit. In addition to the fairly legalese TOS to which Hal alludes, I heartily encourage you to check out the Very Few Rules that pretty much define the way we live here. Thanks, further, etc. ME

So what do you think...One more Saturday night as the encore!!I'm going out of my mind and its over 4 months away! or maybe the opener

Believe it if you need it,if you don't just pass it on!

Dude, you know our love will not fade away....................will be the encore for almost all these shows my brother!_________________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

<...lunch costs me $20.00, dinner is around $75.00...> snip <...A night out at the nightclub will run you at least 100 bucks...> I Whoa - Rob! Where are you eating? The Ivy? Not everyone in L.A. is spends that kind of money... I live in Hollywood and I eat f*a*n*c*y for half that, and you must be buying a lot of people drinks to have a $100 tab at any clubs I know of. Unless you're hanging with Paris Hilton. $10 an hour? Seriously, you need to take it down a notch or let Paris buy the drinks. I'm not freaked out by the ticket prices though. They're actually a lot less expensive than most concerts with good seats in the $200s. See you at the show, brother. :o) Peace, Bearly

The parking lot for the Wac Center shares some spaces with the baseball stadium, it's a big area (the football stadium is there too), but the Phillies are playing the Mets there both days of the shows. Friday at night, Saturday during the day. Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Everyone is acting like the boys are taking advantage of us all. I beg to differ. If you truly do the math (for which I have taken the liberty) you will see what I mean: Location Capacity Lower Upper" Total Greensboro, NC Greensboro Coliseum *22,000 $89 $65 $1,781,919 Washington DC Verizon Center *19,500 $98 $68 $1,716,000 Charlottesville, VA John Paul Jones Arena * 14,500 $75 $45 $942,485 Albany, NY Times Union Center *17,500 $96 $56 $1,446,584 Worcester, MA DCU Center *14,500 $96 $65 $1,242,102 Worcester, MA DCU Center *14,500 $96 $65 $1,242,102 Buffalo, NY HSBC Arena *18,500 $97 $57 $1,547,704 Wilkes-Barre, PA Wachovia Arena @ Casey Plaza *11,000 $95 $1,045,000 Uniondale, NY Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum*17,000 $98 $1,666,000 New York, NY Madison Square Garden *20,000 $100 $2,000,000 Hartford, CT XL Center * 17,000 $98 $68 $1,495,824 E. Rutherford, NJ IZOD Center *20,000 $98 $1,960,000 E. Rutherford, NJ IZOD Center *20,000 $98 $1,960,000 Philadelphia, PA The Spectrum *18,000 $96 $1,728,000 Philadelphia, PA The Spectrum *18,000 $96 $1,728,000 Chicago, IL All State Arena *18,500 $95 $50 $1,479,873 Denver, CO Pepsi Center *22,000 $95 $60 $1,833,270 Los Angeles, CA The Forum *18,000 $85 $50 $1,320,000 Mountain View, CA Shoreline Amphitheater *22000 $95 $35 $1,209,976 Gross Ticket Sales $29,344,839 After 40% expenses $17,606,904 Each Band member $4,401,726 * average taken from Wikipedia " = 1/3 capacity with the exception of Shoreline which is 2/3 See what I mean,it's a mere 4.5MM each.........hardly enough to get upset about.Times are tough and may get tougher! Don't hate the player!!! I have no problem with it. As they say "Keep your day job,till your nightjob pays" Peace

I never got it together to see the tours that consisted of Philadelphia, NYC, and Boston. Most of my shows were in the Midwest and west, so I am making a point of going to the Nassau Coliseum and MSG with my brother. Has anyone seen the huge banner of Garcia outside of MSG? It may be in the foyer, but I don't remember exactly where it is. I was coming out of Penn Station one day, and they had all these banners for the great events at the Garden and one of them was Jerry Garcia representing all of the Grateful Dead shows. I told my brother about it, so now I am on the hook for showing it to him. :)

How do you figure that the band gets to pocket 60% of the gross ticket sales?

Just a guess really………..more than likely could be less. Maybe 40-45% is more accurate. Then “The Tax Man” will take about 42% so when all is said and done, they may net 1.5 – 2MM each. That’s not that outrageous, when you think what ball players get.

Wish he was in the line up. Sugaree, Dire Wolf were awsome New Years PRL

Think the band is aware of the Stagehand Union strike at the Forum?http://www.justiceattheforum.com/ How about a nice day light outdoor show at the L.A. Coliseum like 6/1/91?

Agreed - Sugaree was a highlight New Year's. Warren leads a nice Sugaree too. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -enjoyin' the ride -There'll never be another Jerry

Yeah, maybe a slight exageration, but yesterday at the 8oz burger bar for three was 75.00 -and i didnt drink, hehehe. The point is it's expensive here and there. Peace see ya at the show, I'll be the one dancin!

Nor did he see 500 shows. Anyone who followed the Grateful Dead that extensively would never be such an a-hole especially to other Deadheads. Oh and yes I have seen the Grateful Dead and yes Jerry was the man but he also messed the band up due to his heroin habit towards the end (90's). I love all the different Grateful Dead-related bands - Phil and Friends, Ratdog, Other Ones, The Dead - they all have a different outlook on the same music and I enjoy hearing those differences. Always experimenting - that's the Grateful Dead mantra. Someone quick pass the joint to awest he needs it! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

chicago bob What about Indianapolis guys??? Or better yet, St. Louis, so the displaced Chicagoans can be sure of 1, 2, or 3 shows. And, by the way, I did vote Bush 4 president, uh, SLAMMIN' SAMMY BUSH that is!!!!

I don't have an issue with ticket prices or how much the band makes. I was just curious if you had some inside information because your numbers sounded very high to me. I looked around on the internet, and I saw 25% as the high end for established bands at large venues. Here is a link if anyone cares: http://www.mbajungle.com/main.cfm?inc=inc_article.cfm&chid=4&schid=0&WT…

Awest may have been a Deadhead, but that doesn't mean he is not a jerk. What I found most interesting was his claiming to be a "Jerry Guy." Does he really think that Jerry would have appreciated someone who went to Dead shows in order to laugh at people? Whether he saw 5, 50 or 500 shows doesn't matter, he simply never "got it." Frankly, rather than getting angry with guys like him, we should feel sorry for them for being so angry. Man, laughing at people at Dead shows. How sad. As far as the First Amendment goes. This site is not run by the government, so any mention of the First Amendment is irrelevant. This site is private and the people who run it have the absolute right to revoke your privilege to post here if you violate their rules. That being said, it is very, very rare that that happens, even though there is alot of criticism on the site. Our moderator is really cool and lets most people speak their mind. As I posted before, I hope the new people to the site are not turned off by the posts in this topic, as it really does not reflect the community that frequent this site. "Let there be songs to fill the air."

WHAT ABOUT DYLAN? I HOPE HES ONE OF THE SURPRISES ON THE TOUR. that show above is killer, 1st sets the dead, 2nd sets dylan and the dead. check it out on grateful dead archives!!!!YOU WONT REGRET IT!!!

NOW THAT THE SINGER IS GONE, WHERE DO WE GO FOR THE SONG? Even though jerrys death shook the nations foundation . Lets all respect each other with our words on this forum. JERRY WOULD OF WANTED THAT!!! PLEASE BE KIND TO ONE ANOTHER AND RESPECT EACH OTHERS OPINIONS!!!! LOVE YOU ALL, E-Z-2-B-ME

I plan on going to the show on may 7th in Denver . I live in Oklahoma and this will be my first dead show to attend. I was looking for anyone else that might be going. As well what to expect I'am getting a lot of sh#$ from people here saying "I shouldn't go", "Dude your not a deadhead no one will give you the time of day", "Man u'll stick out like a sore thumb". truth is i dont really care i love this music and plan on having a chill time. i just find it hard to grasp that without the tye-dyes and sandals i wouldn't be welcome. is this true

You will be welcomed with open arms. I don't look or dress like many but have always mixed and mingled right in. It's about the vibe, not superficial judgments. DO NOT MISS THAT SHOW! Bonehead Tom

lordmonkey - definitely go! The space on the bus is infinite. As long as you can chill and have a great time you'll always be welcomed! I'll be in Denver too!

No such thing as a newbie. There are just people who are going to their first of many shows and people who are going to another of many shows. Not a big difference. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose

I live close to the Pepsi Center and have seen many shows there. The cool thing about the Pepsi Center is that the staff is really chill and they leave you alone. During the NYE Widespread Panic shows I saw many of the Event Staff dancing with the crowd. Pretty cool scene. I have always had a fun time there and with the Dead oh man is it going to be fun. I hope to see you all there! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

He is in Europe during this tour.

Bonehead Tom.....Drumhead.....lordmonkey <<<<<<< I'll meet you at the jubilee Broken heart don't feel so bad......You ain't got half of what you thought you had.

I'll be in my usual places on this site, but not here no more. too many bad vibes and too much negativity in this thread. those who know me, know where I'm talking about. feels like 1987-88... in here. actually feels like 1982 when all of the junkie skells started hitting all of the parking lots looking to score and lots of freaks who did not give a shit about the mu\sic-- oh, when I was just a youngin'... those were the daze... stop the attacks and criticisms of other, please. see you kind folks on the other side of the rabbit hole. HalR, I love you brother; got more breath, still?? pomo, you too, but some folks just can't see the light. couldn't even skim though some of this crap without feeling the negative vibes and getting a headache. love and peace.

If your into the Music,your not a outsider.so welcome and enjoy the ride. Peace

pomo1, Did Jerry talk to you from beyond? If not, you have not spoken to him. You did not personally know Jerry and you certainly don't talk for him. Talk to Debra about that. Yes, you are the judgmental posers we use to laugh at. Get over it. You can't change it. Everybody needs humor.

WHO ARE YOU? WHERE ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? I can guarantee you'll have a great time. check ur inbox messages!!!

WHO ARE YOU? WHERE ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? I can guarantee you'll have a great time. check ur inbox messages!!!

I was just wondering since I am not allowed to start a thread yet if anyone is going to start threads on the different venues.. I am going to Shoreline and would like to possibly make arrangements to meet with other from the forums..I would also like to hear about the venue since I have never been there and don't know what to expect as far as prior to the show..I will be Trucking (flying) from Seattle... I was posting alot prior to ticket sales but haven't had as much time since then and just went through the rest of the threads.. WOW..Lets just all get along ..I was just @ the store and saw a kid in his late teens possibly early 20's in a wheel chair with a permanent disibility..He has it alot worse than the majority of us and you know what...He was smiling...

it's been about 48 hours since the presale dust settled and the adrenalin started to subside. Old Heads and new Heads are all welcome here regardless of whether they spoke with Jerry or not, but only if they treat each other with civility and respect. So enough with the bad vibes, name-calling, and Deader-than-thou, please. Lordmonkey, don't worry! You will find nice folks and have a great time! And if you say you are a Dead Head, there's no one can say you're not.

rosa rugosa Hopefully everyone who wants to will get tickets through mail order or general sale next week, and then the vibes will be a bit happier :)

I think of deadnet as a community. A community is the people it is made up of. The community here is important, insightful, wonderful, magical and above all, a place where good vibes and good friends play off one another. It is important because there are very few places on our little planet where history, hope, peace, love still have a voice. It is important because it is insightful, into the lives and thoughts and actions of a group of people that seek a better world...a peaceful world, a world of lifting your neighbors up, a world of understanding and void of unthoughtful judgement. It is important because it is a place of wonder. A place where the music and the words of a group of people continue to bring new meaning to many of us everyday. Words and music that transend time and space. It is magical because...well just because magic happens here. I have seen it. Ask tigerlily. It is a place where we all can come and bounce thoughts and experiences off one another. And when we do that, I think we all want good vibes to bounce around us. And that is why I believe good vibes are essential, they are infectious and they are much more stable and therefore more inclined to color our lives. So the more good vibes there are in the people here, the more wonderful, loving, enriching, and fulfilling this community becomes for all of us. peace,pk