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  • PeggyO
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    Well, the Spring Tour 2009 is in the bag and was definitely one for the books! That's for sure. I know a lot of people might think the Dead are dead without certain members, and to be honest, the last couple of tours the Dead have done were great experiences for me, but I always felt like people were "sitting in" to fill some big shoes left behind. Even Warren, in 2004, felt like he was filling in. So I went to the LA Forum show expecting what we got in 04. Oh how wrong I was! That first throat grabbing chord of the show was like the band was saying to everyone in the Forum, "Listen up people! We're not f*#cking around here, we're here to play so let's get down to it!" And then BOOM, right into that unreal VLB groove, with a beat that you just had to move to. I have been doing tours since the late 70's/early 80's and to my ears, this band has never been better. On the one hand, they're tighter, yet they're also looser. I cant explain it, and honestly, that's about the best one can say about the Dead when they're really "on", "well, I cant explain it man, you just have to experience it..." ;) I've been keeping up with the Tour, listening to the shows online as the Tour progressed and the first half was just okay for me. But in LA it felt like something happened that night and everything the boys had been striving for just all fell into place that night. The Forum felt like an old school East Coast indoor arena show, complete with rabid, hardcore heads that were so grateful to be back at the party again. This was not a "best of" tour. This was a "here's who we are now, dig it" tour, and man did I love what I heard on the West Coast leg of this Tour. That night in LA, I realized that Warren and Jeff no longer felt like they were filling in for anyone anymore. The *were* the Dead just as much as Bobby, Phil, Billy or Mickey are. To me, the Dead has always been a band in flux. There have been so many iterations of them I've sort of lost count. So to those who lament a Jerryless Dead, all I can say is, you don't know what you're missing. Sure I miss Jerry and I miss Brent. But the Dead as they are right now? Sound the best I've ever heard them and they're not stale, they're still out there pushing the envelope and really, isn't that what this is all about? So yeah, I no longer get weepy when I hear Brokedown Palace or Ripple or Box of Rain. I just revel in the fact that I get to experience this amazing thing we call The Dead, once again. And I am truly Grateful. One final comment...It felt so great to experience Shakedown once again and the lot scenes in LA and the Gorge were excellent. Like some upthread said, I found my self also saying things, and using expressions that I haven't used in a long time...It felt good to have the tribe back together again, didn't it?!
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    My sentiments exactly. It was a bittersweet night. Very cool to stay up until 3 am+ listening to the whole show, with great interviews and commentary thrown in during the set break. But it was so great to back out there catching 4 shows, eagerly anticipating seeing the setlists of the shows I didn't catch each morning, listening to the downloads etc. I'm going to miss all that. I'm firmly in the camp that thinks the music has changed/evolved in a great way....new sounds, tunes I never thought I'd get to hear live, Rhythm Devils taking it to new heights each night etc etc. Warren and Jeff are as good as it gets in the post Jerry/Brent/Keith/Pigpen era, which is to say they're both amazing musicians who fit right into the fabric of the band and helped to make the magic each night. Jeff is a monster on the keys and Warren managed to channel the ghosts of Jerry/Brent/Pigpen in his paying and singing while keeping it new and fresh and his own as well. Branford's interview during the set break was spot on: they're older, they've each gone on to do new things are are coming at playing together from a new angle, pushing the boundaries and not just treading the worn path. By the time they got to the Gorge, they seem to have all completely melded musically and got the bugs all worked out. We may not see them out on the road two thirds of the year anymore....at least as The Dead, but I gotta think the fun they seemed to be having along with the embrace of the fans will pull them back for another go around or two down the road. And yes, it was really cool to hear Mickey thank the crew and bring them out onstage for some well deserved applause. I've seen them with Jerry from the early 80's onward, seen Phil and his band, Ratdog, the Dead 2003/4 and I can say I had as good a time at these shows and I've had at any. All different, all excellent and all the music of the Grateful Dead which is what it's all about. Thanks guys!
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    Not sure if this is the appropriate forum to use but I'm sure Marye will let me know. I just went to the GDTS TOO website for the first time in years to see about Ratdog tix and was amazed at what i found. It prompted me to send them the following... Please don't take offense. Just a little constructive criticism. It's been many years since I've visited your site. Back in the day I thought it was the greatest thing ever. The days of calling the hotline every day sometimes multiple times were over, but come on guy's, your site is really quite primitive by today's standards. To my dismay, when I tried to fill out the credit card form I discovered it wasn't interactive. I consider myself a caveman for not having a printer/copier/scanner combo, but times are tough. I don't even know where to find a fax machine. Aren't we supposed to be a paperless society by now? This planet needs all the trees she can produce. The decorative envelopes are still very cool, and should be an option, but how about an online interactive version of the envelope? I'm sure there are thousands of heads out there into web design who would be willing to collaborate and put something together for you. I'm not a designer myself but I'm willing to help wherever I can. Just something to consider. Peace and much thanks for all you do. So this would be a shout out to all of you webmasters out there if they are receptive. I know youre out there, a simple Google search for anything Dead related shows me there's some mad skills out there. I have not recieved a response yet, but when I do I'll post it.
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    Maybe I should of gone for the CDs too!
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. she is doing much better. it was an asthma and panic attack type combo, scary stuff. my CD isnt a download, it was a CD i paid for, at the show, they was recording off the mixing boards, and pressing official show CD's on the spot for $25, with show date, and place, on official The Dead CDs. it is why i dont want the download to replace my CD, my puter dont have good speakers, and i only listen to my CDs in my car, or my headset CD player. i cant reburn 1 on my puter, and it isnt the official CD with the printed faces on them.
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    Chicago was incredible... 20 years since since my love's and mine last show but with one more in tow - our 11 year old son whose favorite song right now is Throwing Stones. All with a different yet better spirit. The magic was back. It does remind me of reading a book where you don't understand the words and you go back later and understand it even more after life experience. I started reading the book long ago and loved it - and It means even more now. The shows brought smiles, healing and joy. Peace Mike P.S. Please Tour again !!!! - You are beautiful together ! Such a long long time to be gone and a short time to be there
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    fillmore, and anyone else having issues
    you too
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    pm me the details. We're working on this one.
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    I feel the same way, could never have said it any better. Great post!
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. I thought all the shows were just awesome. Thanks guys for giving us the magic again. Sure would be nice to hear the Chicago shows and relive some nice memories again.
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Only 104 days till the SPECTRUM shows!!!!!!!Thank you BOBBY, BILLY, MICKEY & PHIL!!!!!! And thank you DEAD HEADS for creating this positive environment. I LOVE YOU ALL E-Z-2-B-ME
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I don't recall seeing many opening acts for the Grateful Dead shows I went to but I did see New Riders at my first show at the Hollywood Bowl 1972, and I also saw Maria Muldaur (!) at the UC Santa Barbara soccer stadium...circa 'Midnight at the Oasis'. I'm fine with no opening act at all but if they had one, I'd like to see one of the newer bands like, as already mentioned, Yonder, Keller Williams (solo or with Moseley, Droll & Sipe), New Monsoon. I also really like Tea Leaf Green, Railroad Earth as good fits, too. I saw The Dead in both their 2003 and 2004 shows in Irvine and while it clearly wasn't the same as a Grateful Dead show, it was great to be part of the vibe and the whole Shakedown street scene again. IMO, the prices are in line with what I would expect to pay at an arena concert and, as previously mentioned, there is no fan club to pay to join to get access to presale tix. I think the online presale was a little shaky and I do feel lucky to have soem loge seats for the Forum show in LA. I'm enjoying reading all the comments on this topic and I have no problem with people speaking their minds as long as it doesn't devlove into personal attacks. I'm totally psyched for the 5/9 show at the Forum and hope to see some of you guys at the show.
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Its grate to see you back! If I had money to bet, id put it on shakedown at philley too. I can't wait for the spectrum!! E-Z-2-B-ME
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I'll pass. My opinion only, but I'm there to see the Dead. I love the Allman Bros, but still didn't go in to see them at Hippy Valley. Like I said, just my opinion.Peace
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Where does one exit the light rail train for the hike to Pepsi Center? I'll be travelling north from the I-25/Colorado Blvd station. Is there a downtown microbeer pub crawl to do along the way? I'm crazy about Great Divide Hercules. Openner: jam into Feel Like a Stranger. Call that one in, will ya cc?
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rosa rugosaDid anyone see Ratdog at Hampton Beach 5/31/08? They opened with Shakedown - now one of my best life's musical memories. When we listen to it now, my husband says he can hear me going WHOOOOO in the bakground!
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rosa rugosaSorry, I meant "background." Could try to blame it on wine in the laptop??
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You can take the light rail pretty close to the Can (Pepsi Center), however I would walk down the 16th St. Mall you can follow it all the way to the Pepsi Center and there are microbrews like the Wynkoop and Breckenridge Brewery along the way. There are many others I just can't think of the name of them right off hand. Also in lower downtown there are many places to eat and drink and that is usually where the partying takes place. You shouldn't have too much problem finding a Great Divide brew :-) "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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Someone asked about the scalping laws. It varies state to state. Here in Florida it's legal to scalp and has been for a few years. Thank (who else?) a Bush: http://www.sptimes.com/2006/05/12/Columns/Lesson_in_Florida_s_s.shtml (if the link is dead, google "Florida scalping laws") And I'm psyched about Warren. I've seen him with the ABB and Govt. Mule many times. There are few guitarists these days capable of the intricate yet defined noodling -and- jamming who can meld it and get it -just right.- While no one will ever replace Jer's tasty licks, Warren can hang just fine. The economy being what it is, it did not come as a shock today when I learned the ax is falling on my day job in about 90 days. Let's see . . . 90 days takes me into the first week of the tour so my heart's not exactly breaking with this deal that's going down. The boss is going to have to deal with me cutting out after 84 days, though. The original plan was to catch Greensboro, come back for a week, take my vacation and catch up with the tour in Pa. However, now I don't have to return after Greensboro so I'll be looking to pull a rabbit out of a hat for additional tix for Charlottesville, DC, NY and Mass. Look for the Fla. plates and stop and introduce yourself. See you all on Shakedown Street. Much love and good vibes to all!
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ROSA RUGOSA, careful with that wine dear, wat shows was you going to again? And for that matter, have you looked at the way the tour does 2 shows in the same state-then a different state-then back to the original state they just did???1980-10-07 "HEAVEN HELP THE FOOL" warfield theatre thats a great instramental !!! Now I know I didn't spell that rite.....
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Just was scanning some of the online users pictures, theres alot of great pictures of (young) Bobby & Jerry. This tours going to be the OBAMA-DIGGITY!!!!! ("NOTHIN LEFT TO DO BUT SMILE,SMILE,SMILE!-_-_-_-_-_) -_-_-_-_-_-_)-_-_-_-__-__-_)
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All sorts of bands played before the Grateful Dead at the Fillmores, Winterland and Avalon Ballrooms. That was a long time ago though. Before my time on the bus. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Got tix for LA and am looking for three Shoreline tix!!! Been a long time since I danced in the promised land!!
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Who are you?Where are you? How are you? -Peace- Moye do you think if every thing goes well on this tour that theyd have a summer tour?
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Feel Like a Stranger opening in Denver?? I'll check with the west coast bookies, but I really don't 'feel' it, ted. Alabama Getaway is at the top of the line for that city from my Denver source, Lewie "the sewar" but anyways, Denver, you may know, (like LA) is an "open" city, so the rackets aren't as contolled as the more traditional places and the odds are all over the place. as you know all too well, half of my life has been spent 'calling the tune' the other half??? hosting an ill-fated, poorly rated game show... sigh. ( -; peace.
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I'd like to see Mark Karan play with the Dead.He's got the sweetest Jerry guitar vibe IMHO, but if that's not in the cards, then his own band (when he's not playing with Ratdog), Jemimah Puddleduck, would be a good opener... Peace, Bearly
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Hey now, hey now.....Aiko.... I'm so excited for this tour that my shoes are shakin in this cold rain and snow. Please boys, play Dark Star and That's It......I'm thinkin about pullin out my 45, and laughing and singing to the music! YEEEEEHAAAAW! Please say I can go home to the Shoreline......Darn those Munks have been in my mind since '95~ Love you all, and dude, I can't wait! _________________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Way back in a day, I remember the first time I heard String Cheese Incident, They opened two years in a row for the Grateful Dead @ Alpine Valley, I have loved them since then.
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Reading some posts about opening acts made me think back... I remember a show at UMASS sometime in the mid 70's where Patti Smith opened (that was different). Also, I caught the Nov. 2nd PAF Nokia show (brought my 14 year old son, his first) where they went from "the eleven" into "the elevator". I want to hear any of my old favorites, but I wouldn't mind melding in something new like that.
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Mornin Grates..had to remove myself from chatroom within the past week..didn't sound like the original "Dead' community like back in the early 70's! Glad it's back to the old positive Dead vibes! See ya in Worcester, MA, the 18th! Am taking my 19 year old son with me! So psyched! Momma and Son!! OH YEAH..."One More Saturday Night"!!!
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It would be awsome if they would play the eleven. I think it would be interesting for a dark star>china cat>the eleven. And maybe a days between in there somewhere.
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I've always thought of a train horn at the beginning of China Cat and then again right after the first "I wish I was a headlight on a north bound train"... would be very cool... Like an old narrow gauge engine horn. I guess ever since '92 when during drumz they blew the really loud modern horn. Kinda silly but it would work. Oh and birds singing at the beginning of bird song. I think they did that at some point but I can't find the show... Anyone know?
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Been thinking adout jumping on tour. My job laid me and others off on X-mas eve. I draind my bank account for 8 tickets to the spectrum shows in p.a. (4 for may 1st & 4 for May 2nd) Going up with some good heads. So im thinking to myself, why not just keep going and finish off the tour? Maybey sell some veggy burritos and other things in the parking lot. If anyone thinks its a good idea, feel free to message me.---LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL----
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i so remember that horn bit i was sitting there relaxing and smoking.....the vibe seemed to mellow a bit being drums and all.....then all of a sudden WOOOO WOOO....so cool...i remember everyone jumping up started cheering.... I can't wait for spring tour so much fun will be had......
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Yo Phatmoye! If You got Nothing You got Nothing to Loose! Hit the road
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Its grate to see all these parents taking there sons or daughters to the dead shows. Its grate to see the good vibes and music passed on from generation to generation. Im proud to be a part of the dead family.THANK YOU EVERYBODY
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Thanks Drumhead,Im giving it alot of cosideation. Only 103 days left to the Spectrum show. Im startin to get giddy!!! -_-_-_-####-_-_-_-#### GOOD VIBES
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noonie - I'll never forget it... one of the coolest drum segments that I've ever heard... And it was just like that... really mellow with a little beat going and then.... WOO! slammed!
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Brushed off the old bongos tismorning. Im so pumpd about this tour! Does anyone know if dead archive will carry these tour shows? Id love to hear the 1st N.C. show. bubble,bubble,bubble ( COF,COF!)
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I'll be in Greensboro for the first note of the tour, I'm thinking Jack Straw. Bobby opened up with it at Wanee Fest last year. Here's hoping anyway. For any newheads, remember to come early and stay late. See you at Shakedown street. ________________________________________________ "we can share what we got of yours, 'cause we done shared all of mine"
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hey this will be our first show as a family and we want to make sure our son (19 months) will have fun allso....so is there a place inside grrensboro colleseum where other families will be hanging out
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Haven't been there yet, so I don't know.
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I bet they start off with Estimated Profit at the last show in California. You can almost put that 1 in the books.
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That would be perfect. Ratdog did an Estimated Profit in Ft. Myers, Fl in the second set that blew me away.
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That would be a first I think. Never happened with the GD. Almost always set 2 stuff, and usually either the launching pad or countdown into space. Oh, and Chinat Cat>Eleven might be a rough transition, unless they drop Eleven in during the key change in China Cat which would work pretty much seamlessly, and offers the same graceful return for the third verse. Actually, that's a really cool idea. Think I'll try that out! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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They have darkstar-china cat-the eleven on the 1st box set of the grateful dead. Its very rare 2 find that combanation though. For that matter its hard to find the eleven on alot of shows. Oh, and Bonehead Tom, I think your right, I dont think Ive ever heard Estimated Profit as an opener for any show. Estimated Profit into Eyes Of The World would be interesting too.
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chicago bob I want the DEAD by themselves, but my vote went to Bush for president, that is SLAMMIN' SAMMY BUSH so if no one else voted for SAM BUSH BAND, DAVE GRISSMAN QIUNTET, or DONNA JEAN & the TWISTERS I want them all there!!! Anybody see DJG @ Lucas School House in STL - simply marvelous!! AGREED?!!!!
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Download this show on Grateful Dead Archives / its at Dupont Gym-MIT/ theres songs like I Dont Know You, Six Days On The Road and others ive never heard of. Its got a countryish sound to it and not the best recording, but not the worst. CAN'T WAIT TO SHAKE MY BONES AT THE SPECTRUM!
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HeyNow Janis, thanks again for this song, maybe you can tyhrow in a few DEAD tickets to Uncle BUDD!!! "Mercedes Benz" Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends. Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a color TV ? Dialing For Dollars is trying to find me. I wait for delivery each day until three, So oh Lord, won’t you buy me a color TV ? Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a night on the town ? I’m counting on you, Lord, please don’t let me down. Prove that you love me and buy the next round, Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a night on the town ? Everybody! Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends, Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, So oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? That’s it!
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You think the band ever reads this post?CAN'T WAIT TO SHAKE MY BONES AT THE SPECTRUM
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"Dear lord, won't you buy me a ticket to the dead,, My friends are going on tour, I must meet up with them, Worked hard all my lifetime, a little help from some heads, So lord won't you buy me a ticket to the dead." PEACE
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phatmoye im gonna keep singing that song to myself even though i got tix. thanks love the new words
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Boy I hope I spelled that right.JUST ANNOUNCED-_-_-_-_- DEAD MEMBERS TO PLAY AT INOGRIATION BALL-_-_-_-_-_ BEAUTIFUL VIBES FOR 2009-_-_-_-_-_--__
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Sunshine day dream....Hope I get tickets through mail in, I tried at 9 on the dot on line and screen froze and never got back in....
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for the folks bringing the real little kiddies: someone mention an 18 month olld? anyways, kids have always been part of the scene. you may want to: pack lots of extra snacks -- you do not wanna have to go to the concession stannd during Dark Star, do you? pack some kiddie drinks, gotta be in 'sealed' plastic bottles though. an extra sweatshirt or something in case they get chilly AND ear plugs. while this ain't gonna be no wall of sound, they are still pretty loud. my hearing got all fu8cked up in my youngin years on the road, and I'm half deef now because of it... SERIOUSLY, no joke that. peace.
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noonie: I wrote a longer post about this, but it went into the que: ADVICE for bringing kids: ear plugs!! snacks drinks (but don't let them drink too much, for fear of having to go to the restroom during Alligator) this from me, never had no kids as far as I know... peace.
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ok about them ear plugs, you can get those gel types, which form into the shape of the kids ears, quite good actuially. this is no wall of sound, but as a youngin' my own hearing was seriously damaged by loud rock and roll concerts. half deef now, because of it. no joke. not sure about the venue you were talking about, but SOMETIMES places let kids congregate in the wheel chair areas (if they have those places at all) depending on how strict they are with people going where their tix say they should be. AND, hey, haven't been to many of these venues for years... how is the security scene INSIDE?? (don't get me started on stories of nightmares outside of Brenden Byrne from the 80's) many of the 2004 Dead tour places, Tweeter, the other one in NJ, etc. were a nightmare; with asshole security Nazis literally slapping bones out of people's hands and threatining to have them kicked out if they sparked up again. peace.
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The security scene at the Penn show wasn't to bad, the only thing i saw that they didn't care for to much was cameras inside the show. We had floore seats and had no issues with security about people fireing it up.They had outside smokers pitts too, witch grew crowded fast. As for security in the parking lot, there really wasn't a whole lot. Just remember to try to keep the parking lot respectable (broken bottles, trash, etc.)For the most part, security wasn't bad at all. Phatmoye
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Not a bad try for your age though - if that's a current picture of you there above your username. That's cool of Obama to ask them! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -enjoyin' the ride -There'll never be another Jerry