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  • PeggyO
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    Well, the Spring Tour 2009 is in the bag and was definitely one for the books! That's for sure. I know a lot of people might think the Dead are dead without certain members, and to be honest, the last couple of tours the Dead have done were great experiences for me, but I always felt like people were "sitting in" to fill some big shoes left behind. Even Warren, in 2004, felt like he was filling in. So I went to the LA Forum show expecting what we got in 04. Oh how wrong I was! That first throat grabbing chord of the show was like the band was saying to everyone in the Forum, "Listen up people! We're not f*#cking around here, we're here to play so let's get down to it!" And then BOOM, right into that unreal VLB groove, with a beat that you just had to move to. I have been doing tours since the late 70's/early 80's and to my ears, this band has never been better. On the one hand, they're tighter, yet they're also looser. I cant explain it, and honestly, that's about the best one can say about the Dead when they're really "on", "well, I cant explain it man, you just have to experience it..." ;) I've been keeping up with the Tour, listening to the shows online as the Tour progressed and the first half was just okay for me. But in LA it felt like something happened that night and everything the boys had been striving for just all fell into place that night. The Forum felt like an old school East Coast indoor arena show, complete with rabid, hardcore heads that were so grateful to be back at the party again. This was not a "best of" tour. This was a "here's who we are now, dig it" tour, and man did I love what I heard on the West Coast leg of this Tour. That night in LA, I realized that Warren and Jeff no longer felt like they were filling in for anyone anymore. The *were* the Dead just as much as Bobby, Phil, Billy or Mickey are. To me, the Dead has always been a band in flux. There have been so many iterations of them I've sort of lost count. So to those who lament a Jerryless Dead, all I can say is, you don't know what you're missing. Sure I miss Jerry and I miss Brent. But the Dead as they are right now? Sound the best I've ever heard them and they're not stale, they're still out there pushing the envelope and really, isn't that what this is all about? So yeah, I no longer get weepy when I hear Brokedown Palace or Ripple or Box of Rain. I just revel in the fact that I get to experience this amazing thing we call The Dead, once again. And I am truly Grateful. One final comment...It felt so great to experience Shakedown once again and the lot scenes in LA and the Gorge were excellent. Like some upthread said, I found my self also saying things, and using expressions that I haven't used in a long time...It felt good to have the tribe back together again, didn't it?!
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    My sentiments exactly. It was a bittersweet night. Very cool to stay up until 3 am+ listening to the whole show, with great interviews and commentary thrown in during the set break. But it was so great to back out there catching 4 shows, eagerly anticipating seeing the setlists of the shows I didn't catch each morning, listening to the downloads etc. I'm going to miss all that. I'm firmly in the camp that thinks the music has changed/evolved in a great way....new sounds, tunes I never thought I'd get to hear live, Rhythm Devils taking it to new heights each night etc etc. Warren and Jeff are as good as it gets in the post Jerry/Brent/Keith/Pigpen era, which is to say they're both amazing musicians who fit right into the fabric of the band and helped to make the magic each night. Jeff is a monster on the keys and Warren managed to channel the ghosts of Jerry/Brent/Pigpen in his paying and singing while keeping it new and fresh and his own as well. Branford's interview during the set break was spot on: they're older, they've each gone on to do new things are are coming at playing together from a new angle, pushing the boundaries and not just treading the worn path. By the time they got to the Gorge, they seem to have all completely melded musically and got the bugs all worked out. We may not see them out on the road two thirds of the year anymore....at least as The Dead, but I gotta think the fun they seemed to be having along with the embrace of the fans will pull them back for another go around or two down the road. And yes, it was really cool to hear Mickey thank the crew and bring them out onstage for some well deserved applause. I've seen them with Jerry from the early 80's onward, seen Phil and his band, Ratdog, the Dead 2003/4 and I can say I had as good a time at these shows and I've had at any. All different, all excellent and all the music of the Grateful Dead which is what it's all about. Thanks guys!
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    Not sure if this is the appropriate forum to use but I'm sure Marye will let me know. I just went to the GDTS TOO website for the first time in years to see about Ratdog tix and was amazed at what i found. It prompted me to send them the following... Please don't take offense. Just a little constructive criticism. It's been many years since I've visited your site. Back in the day I thought it was the greatest thing ever. The days of calling the hotline every day sometimes multiple times were over, but come on guy's, your site is really quite primitive by today's standards. To my dismay, when I tried to fill out the credit card form I discovered it wasn't interactive. I consider myself a caveman for not having a printer/copier/scanner combo, but times are tough. I don't even know where to find a fax machine. Aren't we supposed to be a paperless society by now? This planet needs all the trees she can produce. The decorative envelopes are still very cool, and should be an option, but how about an online interactive version of the envelope? I'm sure there are thousands of heads out there into web design who would be willing to collaborate and put something together for you. I'm not a designer myself but I'm willing to help wherever I can. Just something to consider. Peace and much thanks for all you do. So this would be a shout out to all of you webmasters out there if they are receptive. I know youre out there, a simple Google search for anything Dead related shows me there's some mad skills out there. I have not recieved a response yet, but when I do I'll post it.
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    Maybe I should of gone for the CDs too!
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. she is doing much better. it was an asthma and panic attack type combo, scary stuff. my CD isnt a download, it was a CD i paid for, at the show, they was recording off the mixing boards, and pressing official show CD's on the spot for $25, with show date, and place, on official The Dead CDs. it is why i dont want the download to replace my CD, my puter dont have good speakers, and i only listen to my CDs in my car, or my headset CD player. i cant reburn 1 on my puter, and it isnt the official CD with the printed faces on them.
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    Chicago was incredible... 20 years since since my love's and mine last show but with one more in tow - our 11 year old son whose favorite song right now is Throwing Stones. All with a different yet better spirit. The magic was back. It does remind me of reading a book where you don't understand the words and you go back later and understand it even more after life experience. I started reading the book long ago and loved it - and It means even more now. The shows brought smiles, healing and joy. Peace Mike P.S. Please Tour again !!!! - You are beautiful together ! Such a long long time to be gone and a short time to be there
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    you too
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    pm me the details. We're working on this one.
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    I feel the same way, could never have said it any better. Great post!
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. I thought all the shows were just awesome. Thanks guys for giving us the magic again. Sure would be nice to hear the Chicago shows and relive some nice memories again.
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i hear you about hearing protection.....we bought our son a pair of nioce canaceling ear muffs..that are designed for kids..... he dosn't mind wearing them.....oh and about missing cool shit while you change a diaper or two thats just the way it is when your a parent. thanks for the advice openening acts......i don't realy care i am just there enjoying the ride they bring us on but ymsb is the bombdiggity (did i say that right)
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Obama's people really invited the boys to play this week? I voted for the man, but not because I thought he had any deadhead tendencies! Wow, maybe a new age is really dawning... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ One man gathers what another man spills...
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Mickey in the CIA, thatwould be a trip... but,,,,,,,,,,,,,, uh oh; reminds me of when Elvi wanted to get involved with the DEA...
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well, I'm paranoid enough, or conspiracy theory obsessed enough to believe that some of Obama's people told THE MAN at that show NOT to make busts. wouldn't have looked too good in the media, if dozens of heads got busted during a benefit show. if you see what I mean... peace.
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Tickets to Pepsi Center .... CHECK Plane tickets to San Jose .... CHECK Hotel for 2 nights .... CHECK Rental car .... CHECK 3 tickets to Shoreline .... COME ON MAIL ORDER! Pretty please .. "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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greetings and salutations to all you wonderful people on this thread. I just want to say that it is a wonderful feeling to be a part of this. It has been so long since a dead show for me, I am so psyched, counting the days till greensboro. 84 to go. 1st show, first song "let the good times roll>feel like a stranger" would set the tone for a stellar return for the guys. can't wait, can't wait. have been reading this thread since it started and would like to thank marye for the awesome moderating, thank you Marye. :) Hope to meet some of you grate people at the shows, let the good times roll cause I feel like a stranger. "let there be songs to fill the air"
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Hey now to all . New to site but not scene. Have tix for Greensboro and VA shows and can not wait to get back on the road again. I want to share this,since I am new,with all who may not know. http://www.archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2F… this website has all dead shows everplayed and can listen to them all for free. A friend turned us on to this not long ago and it is a goldmine. Hundreds of other artists such as Ryan Adams, Keller Williams, etc, and all live. Hope to see all of you out there and be safe. "This could be the last time". Peace and love from the Morris family.
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My boy will be 1yr6mths for the Buffalo show. Might wait for a summer outdoor show to take him. I think the freedom of lawn seats might be more friendly and fun for him.Peace
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If ya need some hearing protection for yer kidz..... I've got osha rated 32db plugs. They are called spark plugs ( not trying to sell merch here folks ) they are white with day glo coloring and are very comfortable to wear for extended periods. Drop me a line and a SASE and I'll send you a couple of pairs - for no other reason than to be kind. Saint Stephen with a rose. In and out of the garden he goes. Country garland in the wind and the rain. Wherever he goes the people all complain.... Shine On! Saint Stephen
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Yeah our daughter is 4 and there is no way she would sit in reserved seats for more than about 10 minutes. She does really good in a general admission setting though especially outdoors. "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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THANK YOU ALL!!! I started using this website less then a week ago and can definatly see the love thats being passed around. And a special thanks to CC, you've been very helpful with this room. and info., and the Utubes. I hope to see some of you in the parking lot in Philly. THANKS AGAIN ALL OF YOU! Im PROUD to be a part of this FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Phatmoye
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As to the Inaugural Ball on Tuesday night, I understand they're limited to a single, one-hour set. My guess is that the setlist will look something like this. Morning Dew > Dark Star > Drums > Stella Blue - Encore: Viola Lee Blues "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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Damn, I wouldn't mind hearing viola lee blues somewhere on this tour. As for that set list above, thats almost to perfect. That would be a killer set list.Phatmoye
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It is really good to see and hear so many people talking about bringing their kids to the shows. As a father of two 1 boy 11 and 1 girl 8 and plan to take them to the VA show my wife and I were a little concerned at first. They went with us the last time the dead toured. We did a mini inner state of NC tour, Raleigh then Charlotte. Both of these shows were outside and we had lawn tix. We all had a blast. Before we left for these shows we stayed at the family beach house on Oak Island, NC and hurricane Charlie came through. We sat on the front porch in rocking chairs and in less than thirty minutes it came and went. No, none of us were in any danger. But this excitement plus knowing we were going to these shows especially with the kids and it being their first I'm sure I felt like they do at Christmas. At the Raleigh show beach balls and balloons were bouncing and they had a clown on stilts walking around. My daughter loved it and at night when the glow sticks started flying around my kids really started getting into it. They also liked rolling down the hill on the lawn. The next night in Charlotte we rented them a couple of lawn chairs because we could tell they were worn out from the night before. They were in bed in the chairs by the end of the first set this allowed mommy and daddy some alone time to dance together for the rest of the show. Only close call was fellow head who with a combination of alchohol and a steep incline fell down a little too close to the kids. This is why I'm a little skeptical about an enclosed venue. My wife and I are going to the Greensboro show alone and in style I might add and decided to get upper level seats for the show with the kids in Charlottesville. But after seeing the get weird video and the footage of the little boy danceing in hallway, if things were getting a little to cramped we could do the same. Thanks for the ear cautions I did not think about it until someones post. Been since Charlotte 95 with Jerry since either my wife or I have been to a big indoor venue, and the inevitable ears ringing trying to find the car. Any way I've rambled long enough.Hope to see y'all in the south with your kiddies and ours. Peace and love.
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chasing a little one down the aisle is a pretty good excuse to get closer to the stage, though.( -; I think in the seating areas, most fellow heads are 'respectful' of a kid's space. looking back from when I was a small youth, well, the circle of bikers around me kept the area clear... so; it does, also, have to do with establishing your space for the kids from the very start of the show, and polite reminders if a freak seems to have a potential to flail into your children. did see plenty of little onees over the years, plenty of families were touring back in the day; even during the more recent 2004 tours, and certainly at NYE this year. just seeing the little ones at the show makes me smile so hard, as the torch of our joy is being passed onto the next generation. accidents may happen, however, and wasted folks do not have the best control of their motor skills. (warning label-- do not operate heavy machinary) printed on that 1/8 bag of schrooms... might wanna have a deep talk with the kids about some of the 'scary' looking freaks they may see. depending on your lifestyle, if this is their first exposure to ssome of the real freak shows who are part of our family. I would check with a audiologist about if the noise cancelling technology prevents nerve damage as well as the best option for protecting kids ears concirning certain types of earplugs -- something i don't really know too much about. believe me, it ain't no fun saying 'huh? what was that?' half the time.
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I don't know what song they might open with in Califonia, (Estimated profit perhaps, but very doubtful), but I can almost bet that they would play Hes Gone towards the end of the show. It would be a great ending for a tour. And yet a great reason to start a summer tour. Phatmoye
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thankx phatmoye, I think all of us here do our part to keep this site cool. when I have free time, I tend to have A LOT of free time, and this site has been a place to get into the scene when there is no scene or tour. so long as there is no name calling and other bullshit... I believe in the grateful philosophy. this is my religion. it is rather dis-organized, but it works for me. learnt lessons from the road, learnt lessons from un-likely sources... this site and our fellowship and sharing here is part of all that. sharing the woes, sharing the joys, giving a miracle ticket, giving a ride to a head with his thumb out. ALWAYS finding just one more seat on the bus so that EVERYONE can get to the next show. syphon my gas if you need it, eat my food if you are hungry, drink my water if you are thirsty. borrow my tape and copy it. (just don't mix up the boxes, please) getting a warm hug from an old tour friend, getting a copy of that long lost tape... caring and sharing. being nice to everybody. stopping strangers just to shake their hand. everyone here has a home. everyone here has a place to kick back and relax and get warm. no one sees tears in the rain, but that don't mean there ain't no tears. come in out of the rain. nothing to hide here. writing the above makes my heart swell with pride and joy that I am both a deadhead and here. "this must be heaven" love and peace.
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Really looking forward to the April 15 show in VA. I used to go to Grateful Dead shows in the old days with my now 30 year old son (he was 8 when we started). My 12 year old from my second marriage has been to 3 Phil and Friends shows, 3 Ratdog shows and has seen DSO twice. Never thought he would have this chance. We've got our tickets and I'll be going with both my sons plus my best friend on my birthday!!! What a birthday!! Hope to see you all there. Peace
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Just right on and beautiful cc. Makes my heart swell with pride reading that also. You came back and there you go, showing many your magic. Proud to share a slice of heaven with you.peace,pk
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I love it when I see people with their kids at shows. I hope to take my grandkids to their 1st show - just can't afford it right now. I would feel better about taking my grandkids to see The Dead than many of the other bands I see. I saw lots of kids at AC/DC as well as Roger Waters - I think hearing protection for kids at in door venues is a good idea. My hearing is getting bad already. Saint Stephen with a rose. In and out of the garden he goes. Country garland in the wind and the rain. Wherever he goes the people all complain.... Shine On! Saint Stephen
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pk, regretted when I stopped going to stadium shows back in the late 80's... good to be back so long as the scene stays cool. "walk a mile in another man's shoes. you will be far away, and you got his shoes, too" ( -;
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Steve-O - cmon seriously? A <2-yr old to an arena show? Is getting a babysitter you can trust an issue?Because if you can it would be better for both of you. Your kids will not get his ears blown out . And he won't really enjoy the experience that that sustained a time. And he won't remember to appreciate anyway. (There are other ways to share the god love GD head vibe with him beside bringing him inside an arena show at that age). . If you can get a sitter you can trust you'll have a much better time and will be able to enjoy the whole show too. That's my opinion/advice anyway. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -enjoyin' the ride -There'll never be another Jerry
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Bring him along Steve, this community is about family, and as one of my fellow viners, a wonderful man whom I respect greatly told me recently, there's nothing more important than family.The experience will seep deep into his soul Steve and enrich him forever.
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Anyone have their tickets yet? Just checking. I sent my request in for 4 in Albany on the 13th...and was just wondering when they would start mailing them out.
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There were a lot of typoes and missed sentences in my last post. It's tough posting from a blackberry. I meant to write "good love, .." Not "god love, ..." Anyway I was really just saying I think a sitter is a better option for both of you at that age for an arena show. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -enjoyin' the ride -There'll never be another Jerry
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caring for a two year old is not an arena deal. save the love for later sure that little nug will unsterstanad.
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Given the time lag between pre-sale day #1 (1/13) and the start of the tour in mid-April, I'd expect the GDTS staff to start mailing tickets sometime in February. The best way to stay in the loop on this is to sign up for GDTS e-mail updates (sign up at gdtstoo.com). They're very good about sending out periodic updates to nervous 'heads that're brooding about their orders. The only downside to mail order is waiting to find out what tickets ya got (versus the 'sorta' instant gratification of on-line sales), but in my experience, the kind folks at GDTS take very good care of their customers. My friends and I have ordered from them so often over so many years that we've almost stopped being surprised when they've recognized our separate orders and issued us tangential seats. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ One man gathers what another man spills...
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SO THE KIDS THEY DANCE AND SHAKE THEIR BONES, it truly is a great thing to see all these parents taking there children, its awsome to see how the music gets passed down from generation to generation. I hope my son gets his son or daughter into this like i am with him.Phatmoye
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we now have 3 kids three and under. had planned on brining the whole family to shoreline to meet their extended family...but now we are thinking that we may leave the babes at home for the day. it's hard - we keep going back and forth b/c we want the kids to have the experience and to feel the love...but keeping in mind that our kids don't groove crowds or loud noises, and like to go to bed at 7pm...plus, they just wouldn't understand why jerry wasn't there....too bad they aren't playing mid-day outdoor shows
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"They wouldn't understand why Jerry wouldn't be there."Hey any good human being loves kids... right up until they scream for something they do not have at a concert... in an airplane.. inside a movie theater... come on. Lets enjoy one of the last classic Dead shows with adults... $100 a ticket is nothing to cry about... but would the little-bitty ones understand this? Like I said... in the title.... LMAO See ya in Shoreline! We will have fun NO matter WHAT!!!!! SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 1st show was in Winterland for me.. if that matters to anyone regarding my single solitary comment on ALL of this. :))) DwB
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anybody know why the Philly shows are not currently listed on the ticketmaster site and/or when/where they will be available? thankx. peace.
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I have 3 y.o. twins and they are my whole world-I take them everywhere because I love to watch them explore and discover-but I honestly would NOT bring them to show at this age and here's why: 1.It's mommy+daddy time-I want to cut loose+not worry(Im VERY protective of my young) 2.I really dont need my 3 y.o. kids breathing in pot smoke(NOT COOL!) 3.I have been to shows where I found acid right on the floor--What if they found some? 4.TOO LOUD!!!(they would not keep ear protection on or in! I dont mean to sound like a prude-- but c'mon people--it's not a place for little kids-get a sitter and spare your kids developing brain cells-THINK ABOUT IT!!!!♪♪♪ Crazy cat peekin' through a lace bandana♪♪♪ P.S.-just my opinion.....
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Bringing my 17 year old daughter to her frist show at MSG. She's been to DSO, Electrix and a few others......she's beyond excited to see the boys in action. My first show was when I was 18....in 1983......I was hooked from that moment on. She already loves the music...now gets to live the scene.
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Wow..I have a suggestion. If you can't find a sitter for your 2-3 year old how about you stay home and watch your kids instead of dragging them to an environment where they have no business being whatsoever.
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Huke20-at least you understand-loud music+people smoking weed is nowhere for little kids to be-I actually cant even beleive anyone with 1/2 a brain would expose their little kids to that(at least not indoor arena shows)remember how full of smoke the arena's are when they flick on the lights after the show?--you really want your little ones breathing that in?-USE YOUR HEADS!!!!
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I took my daughter to her first concert when she was in grade school. But I never even considered taking her anyplace like that until (A) she had first voiced an interest in it and (B) I felt that I could enjoy the show while keeping an eye on her without spoiling the experience for her as well. My little girl was 10 when all of this came together. It was an outdoors performance too, so I was far less concerned with the harmful effects of second hand smoke than I might have been at an arena. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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Hi all,Most of the arenas our smoke free, for that matter most of the states our smoke free.Im not saying that no one will be smoking, but at the Penn. show, they had smokers dens outside. I think we all know that smoke isnt good for anyone, but at a dead show, your almost going to have this.Most of the heads at the Penn. show were pretty decent about smoking cigarettes in designated areas. As for weed, it will always be in and out of the arenas. Phatmoye
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Anyone else notice that theres no national news anouncment, or even bay area news about the boys @ the ball?? Waas up with that? Wheres the love? They announced Biance, Bono, Mylie Cyrus. Just goes to show that even though they can pass the background check, they still don't get no respect. Along with men like MLK, they helped shape the thinking of a generation that made tomorrow possible. "Wave that flag, wave it wide and high"
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By all means, bring the kids. The shows have always integrated music, family, love, great friends, good vibes, great times, etc. My wife and I started taking our daughter on tour when she was two. Today she's 24 and a better person because of it. She's now working toward her graduate degree and understands a way of life that has all but disappeared today. She dug the scene and provided us so many wonderful memories and photographs from back in the day...dancing as Phil beamed at her from the second row in Deer Creek, her singing (every word) along with Touch of Grey, Scarlet Begonias and Fire on the Mountain, blowing bubbles at the amphitheater shows, heads going out of their way to accommodate her, vending beads and necklaces (seems like we sold so much more when she was doing the actual selling) and so much more. Yes, we had earplugs in her ears at some of the indoor shows when she was young. For many years, she was asleep by the second set and slept soundly right on through to the encore. Never had a child-related problem in all those years of touring. Regarding Cassidysdada's comment, "I have been to shows where I found acid right on the floor--What if they found some?" This is where personal responsibility comes into play. If you can't take care of your children (which includes being a responsible parent by watching EVERYTHING they do at that age no matter where you're at), you shouldn't reproduce. My daughter literally grew up on tour with many other kids (now grown) and to this day she says she wouldn't change a thing. She did ask me one day, "How come we didn't do the Europe shows?" If you want to take your kids, take them. There are plenty of folks who understand the love and how we share it with the next generation. Believe it if you need it, if you don't just pass it on.
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Not sure if they still do it but back in the day Wavy and the Hog Farmers always had a Winnarainbow camp at shows for the kiddies. They have a blast.
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I think "you shouldnt reproduce"is a pretty harsh statement.If you watched "EVERYTHING"your 2 y.o. did at those shows-how did you watch the show?your so full of shit!
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Good question? Im tryin to get a topic posted for these kinds of questions. I believe Maryes workin on it.Phatmoye
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THE SET LIST AT THE INAUGURAL BALL is now a topic. Any thoughts anyone?IVE GOT A FRIEND SOMEWHERE.... Phatmoye
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Does'nt anyone think the prices are extremely high???Just seems like $100 is a whole lot for one show..... I've heard rumors that warren is the reason for the prices which makes no sense...(Jerry never made that kind of loot)... This isn't the right scene to be tryin to profit so crazy.... Miracles are gonna be super hard to come by at $100
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Folks, in my many battle-scarred years in the online trenches, I have learned a few valuable lessons. One of them is that few things are likelier to end badly than discussions in which the participants find fault with each other's parenting skills. For the sake of harmony, let us assume that all parents here want nothing but the best for their kids and go to a fair amount of trouble to achieve that result. Thank you...
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...DC is filthy with inaugural balls (there are several just in the Convention Center), and the Mid-Atlantic isn't one of the more famous. The Neighborhood Ball will get the most media attention, since almost-President Obama just created it for us common folk. It is being televised, and will air live on ABC 8:00 - 10:00 p.m. ET. The Commander-in-Chief's Ball is televised to armed forces and some cable systems on the Pentagon Channel. The Youth Inaugural Ball will be broadcast on MTV channels around the world. The show airs at 10:00 p.m. EST/ 7:00 p.m. PST. Kid Rock, Fall Out Boy and Kanye West will be performing. The rest of the balls are the regional ones, there's one for each of the Prez and VP home states, and then the Eastern, Mid-Atlantic, Mid-West, Southern and Western Balls, each covering groups of states and US territories. Other than news clips I don't recall seeing much of these other soirees on TV; maybe there will be a kind taper or two in attendance at the Mid-Atlantic (although security will no doubt be a sho'nuff bitch at these things!) I know I'll be watching archive.org, but I don't really expect to see the Dead set show up. Enjoy! MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************