Grateful Dead New Vines 2009

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January 14, 2009 - 5:02pm

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marye

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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --
Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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June 10, 2009 - 8:02am

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Ltapilot

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DaveC

All is well. Thank-you for your response that is all we need. Communication is key. Dstaches, that is some amazing work. Thank-you for your time and effort. Job well done. Cosmic Badger, once again your contributions to the vineyard are beyond thanks. Someday when I grow-up I can only wish to walk in your footsteps. Send your prays to MarkInTheDark, I am guessing that he needs them. Please welcome him back with open arms after his dark journey is over. He will need our love and understanding. Vine one every one. Keep on loving and supporting each other. Peace Rick
June 10, 2009 - 7:47am

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DaveC

Joined:
November 21, 2007

Hiccup #8A Cured

Hi, I'm on Derek's (dstaches list) for 2 vines, Early Stuff Vol. #2 and Early '69. Those vines, plus Greensboro Dead 4/12/09, finally went out on Monday. As dstache noted, I had some computer problems, exacerbated by not having my regular CD burning computer anymore due to job loss.... The job search and lack of computer and regular internet access set be back worse than I imagined would be the case, but enough excuses - once I get my life back on track I will get back on the vines and provide better updates.... Thanks and I apologize for all of the inconvenience - DaveC
June 10, 2009 - 7:16am

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Birdsong1969NJ

Joined:
July 7, 2008

This is getting convoluted with too many ideas

Simplify: Before you send anyone a vine PM them and make sure you get a reply before you go to the post office. Figure out a specific time period to wait for a response and the SKIP them and PM the next person until you get a LIVING willing able body who will take the baton (so to speak). This way the lines of communication will always be current and missing vines will be easier to track. Yes Pomo1, this needs it's own topic.
June 10, 2009 - 6:45am

#274

pomo1

Joined:
June 5, 2007

Thanks Dstache

A few thoughts: I echo Trevor's statement about MarkintheDark. I get the feeling that he needs our prayers more than our disdain. I know I sound like I am beating a dead horse, no pun intended, but we really need a new topic to sort this out. Perhaps a "stalled vine" topic. Instead of usurping the New Vines topic, lets have a specific place where we can keep track of SERIOUS OFFENDERS, and also see if re-seeding is requested/necessary. Regarding PMing those ahead. I would only do so if there is some question about the viner's continued participation. One rule I would change is that we don't PM the person preceding us until the vine is two or three spots behind. When I first began vining, I waited until right before it was getting to me to send my addy. This keeps everything fresh, and if I receive a PM soon before the vine is ready to go out, I know that the person is still active and that I have the current address. The major problem is when people send their addy when they sign up, which can often be months before they are set to receive the vine. This is stupid. Keep track of the vines you sign up for, and when it gets close send your address. Thus, in order to receive a vine, you must not only sign up, but also send your addy soon before you are due to get it. If you have a vine and have not received the address from the next person, then there is a good chance that person is no longer interested, even if they signed up months before. Of course, you can send a gentle reminder if you wish, but feel free to pass over the person and post what happened. Some may complain that this will require more effort and vigilance. However, this will ensure that those willing to make the effort, will continue to vine. I believe that the status of so many vines has compelled a change in how we do things. Thanks to everyone in the Vineyard and to MaryE. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
June 10, 2009 - 5:56am

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JackstrawfromC…

Joined:
January 2, 2009

Thanks again!!

Wow this is great. I really want to thank dstache (again) and cosmic badger. I think we will get this cleaned up! I just wish our government, my job etc. could come to action this quick to solve an issue!! "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
June 10, 2009 - 4:42am

#276

cosmicbadger

Joined:
June 13, 2007

List of problem vines

I have tweaked the Vindex database to provide here a list of all Grateful Dead Vines and their status based on Dstache's deadicated data and some other notes I had. Following Dstache's classification I have given Vines a status of MIA (worst), Cause for Concern (in between) and Update Needed (least concern). Where I know about it I have also put in info about the status of a few other vines. The good news is that out of 170 Grateful Dead Vines the status is as followsMIA 30 Cause for Concern 9 Update needed 14 Lost in Post 2 Damaged 1 Frozen 4 TOTAL 60 INACTIVE VINES of which 42 (25%) are probably killed I think that is amazingly good considering now many vines there are and how complicated it has become. Surely not a reason to abandon it and start again, since there are still around 100 Active Grateful Dead Vines. Anyway here is the list in Alphabetical Order. Please don't be offended if you think you have been misrepresented here. Just please post what is happening. Vine Name STATUS (Last known holder) 10/8-9/89 - Hampton Coliseum Vine FROZEN (Duplicated by Reseed Vine) 70 and 73 Vine LOST IN MAIL? (Estim8ted/Chasmo) Augusta 10/12/84 Vine MIA (Markinthedark) BCT '86 Vine (AKA Marye's Vine) UPDATE NEEDED (arkdeadhead or pkpotter) Beacon Theater NYC 6/14/76 Vine MIA (j.straw) Boston Tea Party 1969 Vine UPDATE NEEDED (Slimee) Brent's Last Show Video Vine LOST IN MAIL? (gadeadhead or Jimmy C) Cleveland Convention 12/6/73 Vine MIA (Deadheadben) Cream Filling #1 1973 Vine CAUSE FOR CONCERN (Brother Tom or Solix) Dead-NRPS 1970 Vine UPDATE NEEDED (birdsong1969nj or test4965) Early '69 Vine CAUSE FOR CONCERN (Dave C) Early Stuff Volume 1 Vine MIA (Markinthedark) Early Stuff Volume 2 Vine CAUSE FOR CONCERN (Dave C) Early Stuff Volume 3 Vine MIA (Markinthedark) Egypt 1978 Vine FROZEN (Official Release) Enter the Matrix Vine Vol 1 MIA (Brother Tom) Eurovine #1 UPDATE NEEDED (Dead Man Telling Tales) Eurovine #4 MIA (Chinacat503) Eurovine #5 MIA (Chinacat503) Eurovine Acoustic Special MIA (Dayglo Louisville) Fall 79 part 1 Vine FROZEN (Due to official release) Fall 79 part 1.5 Lovin' Rhino Vine MIA (PAPPYPGH or Solix) Fall’77 Part 2 Vine CAUSE FOR CONCERN (Darkstar1971) Felt Forum 1971 Vine UPDATE NEEDED (Greatfullygrateful/Arkdeadhead) Flac Me, Flac You Vine MIA (Markinthedark) Fox '85 Vine MIA (j.straw) Funiculi Funicula Vine MIA (Gratefulmikes) Glens Falls 82 Vine MIA (Sakparadise) Greek '84 Vine MIA (Gratefulmikes) Grugahalle 3/28/81 Vine UPDATE NEEDED (On the Road Again) Hampton ’89 Reseed Vine MIA (j.straw) Hampton, Harrisburg 84 Vine MIA (PAPPYPGH) Jai Alai Miami Vine UPDATE NEEDED (EmilyJ) Keiths First Few Months Vine UPDATE NEEDED (Gr8ful Ted) Lewiston ME 9/6/80 Vine MIA (j.straw) Maples Pavilion Vine MIA (Markinthedark) March 28/31, 1973 Vine MIA (Dayglo Louisville) Merriweather PP 6/30/85 Vine UPDATE NEEDED (fluffhead420) More Red Rocks 9/8/83 Vine MIA( (Gratefulmikes or Deahead Ben) MSG 93 Part 2 Vine UPDATE NEEDED (Toddsnc) Nassau March 90 Vine CAUSE FOR CONCERN (sakparadise or Row Timmy) Northern New England Wish Vine UPDATE NEEDED (Fluffhead420) Nov 72 Vine MIA (Chinacat503) NYE '83 Vine MIA (Gratefulmikes) Orpheum Theater 7/12/76 Vine CAUSE FOR CONCERN (Darkstar1971) Repatriation Vine #1 13 from 70 UPDATE NEEDED (Fluffhead420) Santa Fe '83 Vine MIA (Deadheadben or Hard to Handle) Shoreline 91 Vine UPDATE NEEDED (Chasmo) Silver stadium 6/30/88 Vine MIA (PAPPYPGH) Spring Tour '88 part 1 Vine CAUSE FOR CONCERN (PAPPYPGH) Spring Tour '88 part 2 Vine CAUSE FOR CONCERN (PAPPYPGH) Summer 82 Vine MIA (gratefulmikes) Three from 1975 Vine MIA (Row Timmy or pkpotter) Three from 82 and a 78 too Vine MIA (j.straw) Valentines Day Dead Vine UPDATE NEEDED (Fluffhead420) Warfield 2/17/82 Vine CAUSE FOR CONCERN (PAPPYGH/MarkintheDark) Winterland 10/22/67 Vine REPORTED DAMAGED (BillyS) Winterland 12/27/77 Vine MIA (Markinthedark) Winterland 72/73 Vine FROZEN (Official Release) Winterland June 7, 8, 9, 1977 Vine MIA (gratefulmikes)
June 9, 2009 - 11:58pm

#277

cosmicbadger

Joined:
June 13, 2007

amazing work

big admiration for dstache. Thanks for all the work. I reckon this will help to recover at least some of the lost treasure Perhaps he should now be known DETECTIVE 'Stache! But you know the news about MITD is now really worrying me. I just can't imagine him turning to the dark side. Plenty of folks must have his snail mail address..has anyone tried mailing him?
June 9, 2009 - 7:49pm

#278

Birdsong1969NJ

Joined:
July 7, 2008

NRSP 70 Vine

RE: Dead/NRPS 1970: on 5/5 birdsong1969nj said he would mail out to test4965. No word. I got this out later then the 5th. I think it was about two weeks ago. I will PM test to see if he got it. Thx Derek
June 9, 2009 - 7:20pm

#279

Oroboros

Joined:
June 4, 2007

With the 'deadenders' identified, I plan to work on

sorting through the vines I have originated, to see what I can do to reseed or 'bump' those into action. AND to not send reseeds out to those identified as the 'black holes' of the vineyard. dstache, I admire your tenacity with this inquiry and your presentation of the results of "just the facts" for us to examine. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
June 9, 2009 - 6:56pm

#280

JackstrawfromC…

Joined:
January 2, 2009

Hot damn dstache!

Thank you so much! That was an amazing amount of work. It was a little overwhelming going through all those ehh? I got discouraged last night doing it and thats when I went on my rant. I think this had to be done. Section 6 ... thats where the majority of the damage is ... yeah lets try to avoid section 6 until we figure out whats up with these folks. If you add up the slayings of all the vines from the people in this section... ohhh man the numbers are staggering! Section 7 is pretty iffy too. I hope I didn't screw up sending the Floyd vine to sak paradise. He doesn't post here that often like hardly ever so there is still hope he will keep it moving. It was very shortly after going through the vines last night when it really starting making more and more sense to get a hold of the person BEFORE sending the vine off. Sections 8 and 9 ... I think we are ok... for now.. "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"

Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

Hal's "wait wait..."

(from Hal R - for posterity sake) wait one more thing We forgot to mention how listening to vines will open your senses to the wonders of nature; give you the keys to universal knowledge; open the gates of mystic revelation; expand cosmic consciousness; empower your inner Buddha and Christ natures; have you become one with the Tao; grant you inner peace; lead to new friendships; put you in blissful states; plant a permanent smile on your face; give you a huge sense of humor and wit; make you shake your bones throughout the day and just plain be filled with joy and innate coolness as you groove through life. On the other hand, never mind. Peace. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

I love everyone

Thanks all! Marye, Ericat and all the others that had a hand in this. It is truly a privilege to be able to collect and share music here. Just 6 months ago I only dreamed that I could have such amazing quality and such an abundance of hours. It was seriously a dream. I am GRATEFUL. Vine on! "I had a hard run, runnin' from your window."

The Dead 7/10/03 Vine

Great work on the new vines section you guys, thanks alot. If its alright I'd like to offer up this one. There is no post-jerry dead in vindex. The Dead Thursday, July 10, 2003 Red Rocks Amphitheater Morrison, CO Neumann u89i(Subcard/NOS)->Lunatec V3@16/48khz w/ANSR on DA-20->VX Pocket->Wavelab(resampled to 44.1khz)->CDWAV->Flac 16 Disc 1: Set I 1. Jam-> 2. Help On the Way-> 3. Slipknot!-> 4. Here Comes Sunshine-> 5. Hard To Handle 6. Down the Road Again-> 7. Tennessee Jed-> 8. Broken Arrow Disc 2: Set I cont. 1. Dark Star-> 2. Bertha Set II 3. Blackbird@-> 4. New Minglewood Blues 5. Eyes Of the World-> 6. Dark Star Jam-> 7. Drums/Space-> Disc 3: Set II cont. 1. China Doll-> 2. The Wheel-> 3. Dark Start-> 4. Throwing Stones-> 5. Franklin's Tower 6. Encore Break 7. Organ Donor Rap 8. Loose Lucy "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Ladies and Gentlemen an evening with the Grateful Dead

In honor of this wonderful group, I offer up the following shows.gd70-01-02.early-late.sbd.cotsman.18120.sbeok.shnf gd70-01-10.sbd-pitch-corrected.miller.xxxxx.sbeok.flac16 gd70-07-14.sbd.cotsman.17815.sbeok.shnf gd70-07-16.sbd.miller.32551.sbeok.flac16 All are from 1970, there is some scratchiness to some of the tracks but all the shows warm my soul. As always all are offered in both SHN/FLAC and WAV. Please do not sign up before this vine is planted in it's own topic. Enjoy, long live the vineyard. Peace Rick _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Grateful Dead 1-2-70 Fillmore East, New York, NY Disc 1 (63:08) Early Show: 1. Zarathustra introduction--> (1:09) 2. Mason's Children (6:12) 3. Casey Jones (4:27) 4. Black Peter (12:48) 5. Mama Tried--> (2:39) 6. Hard To Handle (4:58) 7. Cumberland Blues (5:49) 8. Cryptical Envelopment--> (2:01) 9. Drums--> (3:56) 10. The Other One%--> (10:14) 11. Cryptical Envelopment--> (1:59) 12. Cosmic Charlie// (6:49) Disc 2 (46:14) Late Show: 1. Uncle John's Band--> (7:19) 2. High Time (7:24) 3. Dire Wolf (4:19) 4. //Easy Wind (7:20) 5. China Cat Sunflower//(-->) (3:36) 6. //I Know You Rider (2:02) 7. Good Lovin' (7:30) 8. Me & My Uncle (3:05) 9. stage banter (1:37) 10. Monkey & The Engineer (1:57) Disc 3 (72:15) Late Show continued: 1. stage banter/tuning (1:34) 2. Dark Star//(-->) (29:59) 3. //St. Stephen--> (5:13) 4. The Eleven--> (12:20) 5. Lovelight% (23:07) _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Grateful Dead - January 10, 1970 Golden Hall - San Diego, CA San Diego Community Concourse Setlist: d1t01 - Stage Banter/Tuning d1t02 - China Cat Sunflower -> d1t03 - I Know You Rider d1t04 - Me And My Uncle d1t05 - Dire Wolf d1t06 - Hard To Handle d1t07 - Casey Jones d1t08 - Mason's Children -> d1t09 - Black Peter (Missing but can be found on Disc 7 The Golden Road (1965 - 1973)) d1t10 - Good Lovin' d1t11 - Cold Rain And Snow d2t01 - Turn On Your Lovelight d2t02 - Announcements _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Grateful Dead 7-14-70 Euphoria Ballroom, Disc 1 (51:49) acoustic set: 1. Don't Ease Me In (3:10) 2. //Friend Of The Devil (3:28) 3. stage banter (1:59) 4. Dire Wolf (3:54) 5. stage banter (3:35) 6. Dark Hollow (3:07) 7. //Candyman (4:45) 8. //Black Peter (6:46) 9. //How Long Blues (3:23) 10. Deep Elem Blues% (3:22) 11. Cumberland Blues* (5:13) 12. //New Speedway Boogie* (9:01) Disc 2 (75:07) electric set: 1. Casey Jones (5:05) 2. El Paso (6:05) 3. China Cat Sunflower--> (5:24) 4. I Know You Rider (5:09) 5. //Easy Wind (2:52) 6. Me & My Uncle (3:31) 7. Cryptical Envelopment--> (2:07) 8. Drums--> (7:10) 9. The Other One--> (10:12) 10. Cryptical Envelopment--> (5:18) 11. Cosmic Charlie (8:23) 12. Good Lovin'% (6:18) 13. Uncle John's Band (7:26) *with David Crosby on acoustic (Garcia is on electric) _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Grateful Dead - July 16, 1970 Euphoria Ballroom - San Rafael, CA Setlist: d1t01 - //China Cat Sunflower -> d1t02 - I Know You Rider -> d1t03 - Candyman d1t04 - Turn On Your Lovelight

Ltapilot

Nice way to start off the new topic. Thanks. Thanks to Trevor, also, although my taste runs to pre 1981-82 stuff. OK, call me a snob, I can take it. "Let there be songs to fill the air."

hopefully a helpful tool

There was a note on the old "new vines" topic about labeling the packages - but I would rather have documentation about what vine it is & set lists etc.. on the INSIDE of the package - to help prevent theft (not an indictment of our US postal workers - but decorating the outside can lead to temptation). As for keeping track of the vines, I use an excel spreadsheet to track vines. Sample Vine Tracking Spredsheet In this sample, I have deleted everyone's name & address - which i collect through the vining process (for vining purposes only - so i don't have to constantly ask for addresses). It consists of 4 tabsTab 1 - expected vines (sort by expected date & update frequently) Tab 2 - completed vines (copy from Tab1 to here as they get done - for historical purposes) Tab 3 - names & addresses Tab 4 - a copy of the vinedex (for local reference) Tab 5 - vines I have started (again - for historical purposes) with all the time we put into keeping the music flowing, it only makes sense to do it in an organized way & keep track of things. Note that Tabs 1 & 2 have url links back to this site, for easy status checking. It's really not much effort at all - as you're sitting there burning the discs, you just update the spreadsheet.

in response to badger's quite appropriate comment

I've done a brief edit on the matter of the Vinedex, which represents truly heroic effort on badger's part.

thanks, re the new vines

and I'll work on getting them posted by the end of the day.

gonna be hard on a vine slut like me...

...waiting for the new topics to show up ;^). Good job for sure erickat. I appreciate having things clearly spelled out, esp. the items that can result in a viner getting skipped. "No response in 3 - 4 days" is helpful, and setting a deadline was something that had prevented me from getting started on anything like this (well, that and the fact that I'm still fairly new here and didn't want to be pushy). The item regarding checking in periodically is good, too - several of the currently missing vines are involved there, viners mailing out vines to others who are known to be missing, or being at the end and not checking back for new signups. I don't think these guidelines will have a negative effect on the playground here, although as one viner stated a couple of months ago: "I've read some pretty restrictive rules on other sites & even though we have some hiccups here now & again, it's a much more free & open environment" I think the environment here is safe ;^) Cheers! MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

Dead 7/1/03 Vine

is here.

Ladies and Gentlemen Vine

is here.

and the MSG '87 topic

from the old list is here.

thanks guys

this new system is MUCH quicker.

And I like that header helping

us all to remember what we forgot (or didn't know). Grate job you guys! The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.

Yes Grate job indeed !!

very nice , this should eliminate some confusion for sure .. Grate job guy`s !!

appreciate

the small correction :-) thanks erickat and Marye and everyone else too. I am in Banda Aceh, the city destroyed by the tsunami in Dec 2004. Puts my little problems and complaints into perspective.

The Lapful Laughs Goodie Bag

Here are 2 more shows. I have checked the vindex plus the official releases and do not see these shows listed: 4/5/69 and 7/18/72. Notes for both shows: SBD sources; seamless tracks; very good sound quality; audio wav format; a total of 6 CDRs San Francisco, CA Avalon Ballroom (4/5/69) CD 1 Dupree’s diamond blues Mountains of the moon Dark Star > St. Stephen Lovelight Hard to Handle (Set 2 Starts) Cosmic Charlie CD 2 China Cat Sunflower Doing that rag Cryptical envelopment > The other one > Cryptical envelopment > The eleven jam It’s a sin Alligator > Feedback We bid you good night Jersey City, NJ Roosevelt Stadium (7/18/72) CD 1 Bertha (some stitches at beginning during opening chords) Me and My Uncle Bird Song Promised Land Sugaree Black Throated Wind China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Jack Straw Loser CD2 Beat it on Down the Line Stella Blue El Paso Casey Jones Playing in the Band Brown Eyed Women Tennessee Jed CD3 Truckin' Dark Star Comes a Time (audience recording patch inserted at 3:32) Sugar Magnolia CD4 Ramble On Rose Greatest Story Ever Told Mississippi Half-Step Sing Me Back Home Not Fade Away Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad Not Fade Away E: One More Saturday Night (missing)

and that one...

lives here.

Hey cosmicbadger...

...if you happen by a temple please light some incense for me. I had nightmares about the tsunami, I can't imagine living through something like that Cheers, and stay well, MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

Hampton Coliseum April, 1984

Grateful Dead - 4/13/84Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA Set 1: d1t01 - Keep Your Day Job -> d1t02 - New Minglewood Blues d1t03 - Dire Wolf d1t04 - Beat It On Down The Line -> d1t05 - West L.A. Fadeaway d1t06 - It's All Over Now d1t07 - Bird Song d1t08 - Hell In A Bucket -> d1t09 - Don't Ease Me In Set 2: d2t01 - Scarlet Begonias -> d2t02 - Fire On The Mountain d2t03 - Estimated Prophet -> d2t04 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - The Wheel -> d3t03 - Truckin' -> d3t04 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> d3t05 - Around And Around -> d3t06 - Good Lovin' Encore: d3t07 - U.S. Blues Grateful Dead - April 14, 1984 Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA Set 1: d1t01 - Feel Like A Stranger d1t02 - They Love Each Other d1t03 - C.C. Rider d1t04 - Brown Eyed Women d1t05 - My Brother Esau d1t06 - Tennessee Jed d1t07 - Let It Grow Set 2: d1t08 - Touch Of Grey d2t01 - Playin' In The Band -> d2t02 - Terrapin Station -> d2t03 - Playin' Jam -> d2t04 - I Don't Need Love -> d2t05 - Drums -> d2t06 - Space -> d2t07 - Morning Dew -> d2t08 - One More Saturday Night Tease -> d2t09 - Throwing Stones -> d2t10 - One More Saturday Night Encore: d2t11 - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

Add City Island to the Hampton 84 vine, please

This will be a DVD vine - the two hampton shows, the city island show, 6/23/84 - Grateful Dead City Island - Harrisburg, PA Recording Info: (FOB) Senn 441 -> PCM -> Dat .. Set 1: d1t01 - Alabama Getaway -> d1t02 - Promised Land d1t03 - Peggy-O d1t04 - Little Red Rooster d1t05 - Brown Eyed Women d1t06 - My Brother Esau d1t07 - Big Railroad Blues d1t08 - The Music Never Stopped -> d1t09 - Don't Ease Me In Set 2: d1t10 - Touch Of Grey d2t01 - Estimated Prophet -> d2t02 - Eyes Of The World -> d2t03 - Drums -> d2t04 - Space -> d2t05 - Truckin' -> d2t06 - Spoonful Jam -> d2t07 - Black Peter -> d2t08 - Around And Around -> d2t09 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> d2t10 - One More Saturday Night d2t11 - (Encore) Day Job

so... to clarify ...

The "Hampton April 84" vine will be Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA 04/13/84 & 04/14/84 City Island - Harrisburg, PA 6/23/84 On a DVD - Hampton in Flac, City Island in SHN Thanks You may want to come up with a more creative name like Hampton & Harrisburg 84 or something

OK - add one more - this is final

Sorry - next time, I'll do the space calculation ahead of time. I'm going to add 3/29/84 to this vine... so it's Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA 04/13/84 Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA 04/14/84 City Island - Harrisburg, PA 06/23/84 San Rafael, CA 03/29/84 On a DVD +R Grateful Dead - March 29, 1984 Marin Veterans Memorial Auditorium San Rafael, CA Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cassette (Maxell XLIIS-90) Transfer Info: Cassette (Sony TC-WE475) -> Sony R500 (Pass Through) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net February 22, 2006 Patch Info: Tape flip in Eyes Of The World patched with Sony ECM-939LT stereo mics(x2) > Cass Master > Sound Forge > CD Notes: -- Thanks to Paul Scotton and Joani Walker for the Cassettes. -- Seamless transition between discs. Set 1: d1t01 - Walking The Dog d1t02 - Bertha -> d1t03 - The Promised Land d1t04 - It Must Have Been The Roses d1t05 - Little Red Rooster d1t06 - Bird Song d1t07 - My Brother Esau d1t08 - Might As Well Set 2: d1t09 - Tuning d1t10 - Shakedown Street d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Estimated Prophet -> d2t03 - Eyes Of The World -> d2t04 - Drums -> d2t05 - Space -> d2t06 - Spanish Jam -> d2t07 - The Other One -> d2t08 - Wharf Rat -> d2t09 - Sugar Magnolia Encore: d2t10 - Keep Your Day Job

Request/Question

I have been dying to get 10/31/70 Stony Brook. I think there were two shows that date, but I NEED the one with the LAST Viola Lee Blues. Being the good soldier that I am, I looked in the Vindex and noticed that the Repatriation Vine had at least one of the shows in the vine. Two problems: One, I cant tell which of the two 10/31 shows was included. Two, the vine seems to have been taken out of circulation due to "overhandling." Can we re-vine it? How about a "Last Time Performed" Vine that includes this show and maybe two or three others where classic stuff was "retired.' Revivals by Phil, Ratdog, Other Ones, the Dead don't count as "unretiring." For example when was the last time they played The Eleven? Or was it revived? Obviously, there are a number of Pigpen songs that would fit the bill. What do you guys think? Thanks for listening. "Let there be songs to fill the air."

Not Retired - just waiting for someone to sign up

Here's the link to the repatriation vine.PM Estim8ed with your mailing address & sign up at the link below http://www.dead.net/forum/repatriation-vine-1-13-1970?page=5 This vine has both the early & late shows for 10/31/70. Viola Lee is on the Early show. You will need to be able to read DVD & convert from FLAC to WAV

Thanks Erickat

I will."Let there be songs to fill the air."

Binghamton 5/2/70

Any one have this or able to vine this?? I am wanting to get a hold of this show.

Binghamton 5/2/70

Looks like Binghamton 5/2/70 is Dick's Picks volume 8sorry

the anticipation

with the new systme in order I find myself wanting to keep coming back to see if the new vine has a home yet .. can i sing up yet can i sing up yet .. Nope Marye has`nt got to it yet ..makes it more interesting and diferent for sure .. the anticipation is killing me .. LOL .. I`m patient and i do like the new systme ..

BInghamton 5/2/70

Thanks!!! I don't know how I missed that one. Heading to the online store right now.

PS3 VINE?

Hey wats up Erickat , Ok, so can you start a vine on ur PS3? Im on the PS3 now and I can post comments on forums and topics, but I can't get into the chat room. The chat room screen shows up, but where everybodys chatting is complely blank.Any answers to this maddnes? Anyone? This is probably a good question for Marye. thanx, Phatmoye

It doesn't matter how you get here...

PS3 - PC, Mac etc... nobody but the sysops can start a new thread - and there is no file sharing or downloading - the vines are just descriptions & sign-up lists - and have to be approved by the sysops (read Marye). The actual music is sent, physically, via snail mail on cd or dvd media. If you are signed in, you should be able to chat - it may be that you need particular software support for chatting - not sure what browser the PS3 uses.

Here's a note about the PS3

Here's a note about the PS3 and Internet access ... "esssential PC software such a Java Updates, Adobe, or Flash Player cannot be downloaded by the individual, rather they must wait for a software update from Sony. This means of number of online video sites cannot be watched, leading to a frustrating search for ones that do (You Tube appears to be one that works consistently)." Dead.net uses Gagalive chat - not sure if it's supported on the PS3 Source Of This Info

worry no more stuman

the Hampton/Harrisburg/San Rafael '84 vine now resides here.

NEW VINDEX 20 JANUARY 09

Just posted

Berkeley 4/22/86 Vine

Heres one to represent 86. Grateful Dead - April 22, 1986 Community Theatre - Berkeley, CA Recording Info: Set 1: SBD -> PCM -> Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD -> EAC -> FLAC Set 2: SBD -> PCM -> Dat -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By David Gans and Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net May 18, 2006 Notes: -- Disc change is seamless -- Thanks to David Gans for the Set 1 disc and Set 2 Dat -- Truckin' tease before and after Spoonful Set 1: d1t01 - Box Of Rain -> d1t02 - Visions Of Johanna d1t03 - Mama Tried -> d1t04 - Big River d1t05 - Bird Song d1t06 - Little Red Rooster d1t07 - Deal set 2: d1t08 - China Cat Sunflower -> d1t09 - I Know You Rider -> d1t10 - Looks Like Rain d2t01 - Terrapin Station -> d2t02 - Drums -> d2t03 - Space -> d2t04 - Spoonful -> d2t05 - Throwing Stones -> d2t06 - Black Peter -> d2t07 - Turn On Your Lovelight Encore: d2t08 - Brokedown Palace "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Family Reunion Shows

Ok so pkpotter recently sent me copy's of both nights of the Alpine Valley Family Reunion 8-3-02 and 8-4-02. We both agree that they are important shows but they are both very rough recordings and all of the disc's have one track that plays all the way through. I was thinking about starting a vine for them but I have a couple of questions. Does anyone out there have better recordings of these shows? and if not would anyone be interested in signing up for a vine for these even with the shows as rough as they are now? "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

hey Trevor

before I launch this BCT vine, would it make sense to confer amongst ourselves and see if we can put together the rest of the run? Which, as I recall, was pretty good?

Trevor and Marye

I have sent in a request to the seeders and I will begin leaching 4/18,19 & 21 as soon as the request is filled. More to come when I am finished.Peace Rick

Yeah sure

I usually just vine single shows that I get that havent been vined yet. If anyone ever has anything that they would like to add to one of my vines its always cool. Thanks everyone, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

cool either way of course!

I was just having flashbacks to those shows. Handing out flyers to total strangers about this computer network thing...

Great marye!

Im sure that we will be able to put this vine together. oh and Im about recieve 15 or so early 1969 shows so keep an eye out everyone. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

More Old'n'Dead! Wahooo!

Yep, should be outa blank CDs any time now. And marye's having flashbacks. Cool! You'll have to name the vine after her ;^D ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

not more rules - but common sense & precautions

I know we spoke of this before - and I'm not intending to be negative or cast aspersions on anyone - but we do continue to have the issue of missing vines - and a pattern I've seen develop is that someone joins Dead.net and having only been a member for a day or two, signs up for every vine available - then dissapears. (or becomes overwhelmed & doesn't track what they signed up for). We saw this with FadDad82, Billy S, and a couple of others that I can't recall at the moment. We may not be able to prevent that - but we can keep an eye out for similar patterns. Anyway - the point i want to make here is that while this is a free & beautiful thing we have going on, it's up to us to be vigilant - so go ahead and make that decision to skip people who are known to have dissapeared with other vines, or who aren't responding. PK - don't appologise - it definitely is up to you (and all of us) to decide to skip them when it makes sense - I really appreciate the way that MarkInTheDark and others have stepped up lately - This thing is what we make it - and while I continue to preach no hard feelings, I can't help but say - "Don't send that vine to someone who already has disapeared with 5 others". - it's just common sense. Thanks

Vines

Im always up for re-seeding vines that I have and have since gone missing (audio disc's only, becuase of my lack of a dvd burner). I will usually need awhile to do it though. So let me know if I can help with any of them. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

transient viners

hmm I see the problem. Maybe we should encourage all new people to introduce themselves on the Meet the Viners forum. Folks who take the trouble to do that and say a little about themselves are maybe more community minded and less likely to kidnap vines.

I still notice confusion

with some of the new viners not sure how to sign up , maybe the vining instructions should be moved to the header of the vineyard itself instead of under new vines 09 ,. just a thought . good night folks ..

There's one new guy that sure knows how to sign up!

He's signed on to *all* the vines tonight. Hell, when I started I only signed up on five or six a night before I felt like a pig and quit (actually, my fingers got tired). That's OK, seems like a decent 'head upgrading his tape stash, and if he messes up we can just hunt him down and throw him in the wood chipper like we did the last guy ;^) MarkinthewaywayDark PS As long as we're all here, can I (or somebody) go ahead and delete Billy S from any vines his name is still on? I've been moving him to the end of lists as he comes up, but with all the new folks showing up since the ticket-sale-population-boom maybe it would be better if BS just disappeared. There's a couple of other "known to be no longer vining" names that could also be edited out, I think. Perhaps we can compare notes and vote or something. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

all the vines at once?

I think that is too much to keep up with unless he doesn't work. That is putting a lot of seeders and reseeders and viners work on one person to carry through with and keep up with in a short time frame. Would someone be willing to write him a pm and ask if he knows what he is getting into? Maybe he does and that is cool but then again that is a lot to take on if he is new to vining. .He could be getting like 20 vines or so a week at some point. We have a large backlog. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

sure take his name off

5 vines gone and no contact.go for it MarkintheDark If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake