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Seems like you need to blow off some, but somewhere else. That shotgun quote at Hal is VERY unkind, not to mention against our good vibe way here. Yes indeedy,you're absolutely right in that we can disagree and argue and have differences of opinion, and all sorts of things here; but Hal's right-personal insults, name calling, and quoting threats like blowing Hal away are against the policy of the site that we all aggreed to when we joined here; and people will speak out against such things. ********************************** It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

I Think "the steam" needs to cool down or find somewhere else to spew negativity!!!!!

You shouldnt insult or threaten other people just because you type it into your comp.and do not look in that persons eyes while sayin what you say... PS.i see you use lyrics to get rid of your "anger" so theres another nice quote from our Favorite Band,i am sure you know:"Whichever way your pleasure tends,if you plant Ice you gonna harvest Wind...":-)(-:Peace,Frankly

Hey steam-sounds like someone had a big ol' bowl of Grumpyflakes for breakfast!HA! HA! HA!--Turn that frown upsidedown.

good thing about steam is that it fades away . and for you to say how we talk to each other around here , well you posted 3 times , newbe, probobley not even a Dead Head ,..lol..or just angry you did`nt get your Tour tickets ..A true Dead Head would never say such things to another Dead Head ...Yes I agree with Hal , hope your shotgun shells turn into flowers of peace and love .. Love ya Hal !! Peace & sunshine to all !! even you steam ...

others have put it very well, but speaking as the moderator: What They Said. Dissent all you like, but do it without insults and threats, however derived from song lyrics. Thank you.

I agree insults and especially threats should not be tolerated and what steam said about the shotgun was over the top. On the flip side I think sometimes we take it too personally. Emails and posts tend to come across a lot worse than what was meant. I highly doubt steam really wants to point a shotgun at anybody. "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

it's sort of a cliche about how things come across differently on the screen, but it's true nonetheless. Also we have people coming in from all over the world and coming from about a 50-year age spectrum, including a lot of people who came along after Jerry passed. A lot of different cultures and experiences going on. That's only going to be more so as the tour picks up and more folks find their way here. So there's a lot of different expectations and styles going on, and we're trying to find a place where everybody can coexist and share their thoughts candidly but peaceably. Thanks.

Lets not lose topic of this topic. Spring Tour 09!!!!!!!!! Lets save the slandering in our minds somewhere for something else. (politics perhaps) Im EXCITED about this tour and can't wait to meet up with the "FAMILY" at the spectrum. Anyone know what the spectrums like? I've never been there.Phatmoye SO THE KIDS THEY DANCE AND SHAKE THEIR BONES!! Phatmoye

Was it Pigpens B3 that Brent used?

Mean People Suck!!!Agree to diagree and leave it at that. Take your threats and personal insults elsewhere!!! Peace

I suspect poor Steam gets the message...

1. The Dead 2009 Mail Order Update Posted by: "gdtstoo_deadnet" GDTSTOO@gdtstoo.com gdtstoo_deadnet Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:11 pm (PST) Here is our GDTS TOO mail order status for each venue on The Dead 2009 tour: Sunday, April 12, 2009 at the Greensboro Coliseum in Greensboro, NC. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Tuesday, April 14, 2009 at the Verizon Center in Washington, DC. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Wednesday, April 15, 2009 at the John Paul Jones Arena in Charlottesville, VA. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Friday, April 17, 2009 at the Times Union Center in Albany, NY. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Saturday & Sunday, April 18 & 19, 2009 at the DCU Center in Worcester, MA. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at the HSBC Arena in Buffalo, NY. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at the Wachovia Arena @ Casey Plaza in Wilkes-Barre, PA. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Friday, April 24, 2009 at Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, NY. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Saturday, April 25, 2009 at Madison Square Garden in New York City, NY. One in three orders will get tickets if you mailed in on the first postmark. Sunday, April 26, 2009 at the XL Center in Hartford, CT. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Tuesday & Wednesday, April 28 & 29, 2009 at The IZOD Center in East Rutherford, NJ. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Friday and Saturday, May 1 & 2, 2009 at Wachovia Spectrum in Philadelphia, PA. May 1 - Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. May 2 – One in 1.5 orders will get tickets. Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at All State Arena in Chicago, IL. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Thursday, May 7, 2009 at the Pepsi Center in Denver, CO. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Saturday, May 9, 2009 at The Forum in Los Angeles, CA. Everyone who mailed in will get tickets. Sunday, May 10, 2009 at Shoreline Amphitheatre In Mountain View, CA. For reserved one in three orders will get tickets if you mailed in on the first postmark. For lawn, everyone who mailed in will get tickets. We are waiting for the last bit of mail postmarked the 13th to arrive before starting the ticketing process. Orders that we are unable to fill from MSG, Spectrum and Shoreline reserved will be will be returned before we start the ticketing process. Tickets will start going out in the next few weeks. Outlet on sale dates for this tour are listed on dead.net ---------------------------------------------------------- This is the last call for tickets for Bill Kreutzmann, Oteil Burbridge & Scott Murawski in February. Please check our website for details. The crew of GDTS TOO January 22, 2009 ---------------------------------------------------------- "I bet my saddle, stock, and ranch and all I had to spend I watched the cards fall in a trance Ace, king, jack, deuce and ten" Robert Hunter

"better cool down boy, settle back, easy jim." Did not threaten HAL No WAY no HOW! Was merely showing that a quote from a song can be used in any context.... Sorry my point was so poorly made.

You heard Mike Perkins? I know you been quoting music, i just see something familiar in there. Disregard if not!

happy days are here again, see ya at the spectrum

107 DAYS TILL PHILLY RUN!!! time to dust off the old bongos. Phatmoye

Yes :-)(-:

I cannot wait until the Colorado show at pepsi....time for a little Scarlet/Fire

I extend a virtual hand to you. Let's move on friends and talk about what the topic is here, our favorite band of all time is about to tour. thesteam - have an amazing time at the shows If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

I've read several comments about The Dead not being the real thing without Jerry....... hmmm..... what can I say? Let me share (for those who might understand) my mother passed away summer of '92 and family gatherings have never been the same since - someone that I loved dearly was gone and I can never bring her back. Yet I still cherish the moments that I have with my father brother, and sister..... my family is still my family. When I saw the dead at Red Rocks for the first time after Jerry died - I had a similar since of loss which weighed heavily on me. There was a voice in the music that was missing - yet I could not turn from that which I have loved so dearly for so many years - as the song goes - our love will not fade away! Forgive me folks as I ramble on here...... I found out last spring that a congenital birth defect in my heart that was repaired in '71 has begun to fail..... I have lost 50% of my heart function and as a result now have an enlarged heart. Some days are better than others - good or bad, I am thankful for each one. I am fortunate enough to have gotten tickets for Denver, LA and Shoreline. I am truly looking forward to seeing so many of you again - not to mention the music! I have met so many kind people over the years at many shows. In each there own way many have made a difference for me that I can never say Thank You for nearly enough. $100 a ticket would go along way towards my medications and medical bills. Yet I realize that I will never be able to buy another day........... so I am scrimping and saving where ever I can. For me I can't let the chance go by to smile smile smile and dance all the while one more time. I wish each of you Peace, Happiness, and Good Health for many many years to come!!! Saint Stephen with a rose. In and out of the garden he goes. Country garland in the wind and the rain. Wherever he goes the people all complain.... Shine On! Saint Stephen

"may your song always be sung"

My heart and prayers go out to you+yours--STAY STRONG BROTHER!!

TO EVERYONE:What song would you most like to see the boys play that would absolutely blow your mind and make you smile for weeks?? One of mine would be "COSMIC CHARLIE."Dont ask me why--but i've always loved that tune.

Gonna freak ya again! HAHA! Franklin's Tower live and rockin' would blow me mind,and make me smile for weeks! St.Stephen-Shine on yourself brother!! You shine outta that post, fer dang sure! ********************************** It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

Cumberland Blues. I have been wanting to hear that for years and years, think it was somewhere in the early 90's last time I did. St stephen - see you at the pepsi center and shoreline (still trying to decide if I could pull off LA too). Take care! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

Thoughts and prayers are with ya my brother. I felt that same sense of loss one can only feel with the passing of a family member at the Golden Gate Park memorial after he died. I wept like a baby. My young daughter couldn't figure out what was up with Dad. I felt it again to a lesser degree when I saw the Dead in 03, but I also realized then that the magic that can only be experienced at a Dead show was still alive. These are amazin times for dead heads, with everything thats available now on the internet, for those who never had a chance to see him and for those of us who did but werent tied in real close to the taper community. His memory will live on forever through the advent of digital media. He was talkin about shit like holographic storage back in the late 70s before most of us had even heard of a PC. I'm sure he's lookin down over his glasses with that big ol smile. With each new sounboard or audience download I get glimpses of the genius that was Jerry. I will be at Shoreline again this year and would love to meet you and share a moment with you brother. Drop me a line. Peace "He's gone, he's gone, nothins gonna bring him back" "And the band keeps playin on"

Gotta hear GDTRFB and St. Stephen for sure, going to PA and 2 more on order through the mail with any luck. "Nothing left to do but smile,smile,smile"

I was in TM system 3 seconds after 10 AM and asked for 2 best available. Was told no tickets were available! Tried three times and each time was directed to a third party sale site. This must be addressed. Come on Mail Order! Take care all and enjoy your shows. I so much want to make 4 Decades. First show Central Park 5/5/68.

IT MAY HAVE COST US $1,200. BUT----- ALBANY, LONG ISLAND, MSG, HARTFORD AND 2 IN JERSEY HERE WE COME............................JINGLE - FEW GOOD MEN MC - NEW YORK

good to see someone else on the same scene.

Singles were available rear and side stage only, but not for long. I let it go. Maybe next time, if there is a next time. I urge everyone to resist the urge to patronize scalpers. Let them get burned on their "investment" since they choose to look at it that way. They deserve to eat their bad karma. Did score decent floor seats for both nights at Meadowlands, though. There'll be music, sweet music! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

So... The MSG Ticketmaster scene was a bit rough! My wife was online and had the similar experience that Dire Rain Ripple had. But she kept trying. Ended up w/ Level 300 behind the stage for $100ea!! Wow! I hope mail order is better, but the last GDTSTOO update said only 1 in 3 orders would be able to be filled, if you postmarked on 1/13. I did, and now I will wait. But...The reason my wife was online instead of me, was because I was down at the TU (Knick) in Albany to check into the scene. They did the old wristband thing. I ended up being 7th in line and got 4th Row Center Section!!!!!!! WooooooooHooooooo!!!!! Therefore...Our Tour shapes up like this: Albany, Worcester (Sat), MSG and then 2nd night Philly. Life is good. Yes Tix are expensive, but as I tell everyone, you cannot put a price tag on the memories you create at a Dead Show! As for the Song... Dark Star is always on the list so I won't list that one, so how about old stuff? Viola Lee Blues!!!! Super tight would be sweet!!! Good Luck to all finalizing your ticket and travel plans. We'll see you on tour!!! I can Tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines! I can Tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines!

I was only buying one ticket. Generally, I don't select "best available" because I often don't like Ticketmaster's method for selecting the best. But I probably should have this time. First I selected "loge" and was offered a seat in section 71 which is not bad but just starting to be behind the stage. I declined. Then I selected the "100" section and was told none available. Then I selected "best available" and got a seat in section 234, which I bought. Not a great seat, pretty far from the stage, but not so bad, either. I wonder what I would have been offered had I selected "best available" first off. Oh well, considering what everyone's been through (I also came up empty in the presale) I should feel glad just tonot be in the nosebleeds. I also mail ordered for one seat, and got the 1 out of 3 will be filled for MSG notice. Anyway, congrats to those that got choice seats, and sympathies to those that didn't.

I too was in the system a very short time. There weren't many ticket available that's for sure. I picked up two in sec. 210 for $95 + TM charges. My friends could only find seats behind the stage. I see people are trying to resell the ticket for double the price. I say let them eat their costs. I used to buy extra tickets and give them away before going in, not so easy anymore. Too many scalpers ruining that. All you can do is smile, smile, smile. See you at the show!!!

Sorry if my last post was a wet blanket - just tryin' to explain why I still luv The Dead and my extended family so much..... Tryin' to pick just one song that would blow me away - is kind of like bein' a kid in a candy store and only being allowed to pick one thing lol! Besides St. Stephen - Cosmic Charlie would be cool... and so would Big River.... and um Iko Iko........ and uh Me & My Uncle........ and maybe I Know Your Rider...... oh wait you said pick just one uh well uh..... DARK STAR!!! Gots to have me one of those!!!!! Atta Boy Jingle!!! I knew you would find a way to get there! theotherone2 - I am down for getting together @ Shoreline! Did you get reserve or GA? Mail order says I have a ticket - where I'm not sure.... I'm debating on staying the night at my bro's in Long Beach or maybe drivin' all night from The Forum up to Shoreline - What do you think? How long is that drive any way? Does anyone know if we can take disposable cameras to the shows or is this a venue by venue kind of decision? Saint Stephen with a rose. In and out of the garden he goes. Country garland in the wind and the rain. Wherever he goes the people all complain.... Shine On! Saint Stephen

only 300 level available at Pepsi Center, for 2 seats. 1 seat was 208 Row 14....looks like the presales nabbed all the goodies, which is ok. Hopefully gtdstoo got the best chunk...

Got 2 tix endstage 200 level at the Spectrum. Hoping they won't be obscured by speakers but don't really care. I got them ...that's all I care about. I passed up some from the presale being to picky.Wasn't going to let these go by. Wish I could remember what seats I had March 24, 1973.My first Dead concert.Hurry up May!!!

I accept! Thanks, I hoped we could work this out... :D My hand reaches out to yours as well. "Cloud hands reaching from a rainbow...." Shorline seems so far away...... My first show was in Winterland. Take care all.... :)

96 more days till Philly run!!!WOOOOOOWEEEEEEE!!!!!! Anticipation is growing!!! Phatmoye

Excellent! Hope we all meet at Shoreline. (I'm still at the fingers-crossed stage for tix, but I have hopes it'll work out.)

As a a life long Pennsylvania resident, it's bitter sweet seeing The Dead play the Spectrum. Not sure how many people know this, but the Spectrum is being demolished before the year is out. And The Dead hold the record for number of shows at the Spectrum. So this run will be really special for me. That old Spectrum has so many memories and it'll be sad to see it go, but no better way to say goodbye than at a Dead show. http://www.rememberthespectrum.com/ Call it local knowledge, gained a long time ago.

You may refer to this as the TICKET RANT!! Part I First off, I am not ever going to criticize the BAND. I've been Deadicated since 1966 and my first show was seen in 1972 (Fab Fox in STL). The Dead gets better, and better, and better every tour, because of where they came from and who they have associated themselves with. And, I mean no disrespect to JERRY because he is my idol and a true hero. A tour would be BETTER with him, and we do not forget. I will not bitch about paying $50.00 or $100.00 or a little more for a great ticket to see the Dead. Why, because they are worth it and it is tremendously expensive to do a tour. We don't mind paying sports heroes and movie stars outrageous money for far inferior talents, to do things that do not compare to the rigors of a tour like the one we are all looking forward to. Music is hard work dedication and love and the trip that these artists, and they truly are artists, will take us on is truly a surreal experience. ( by the way professional athletes are super humans but they are not generaly artist or musicians ) Part II - The Rant I am going from near STL to the Chicago show because it is the only one close enough to be affordable. Posted ticket prices for this show were $95 - $50. Tickets were to be on sale at noon Friday, January 23. I set aside time from work to be available because, my probably and now a learned mistaken understanding was that on line, was the only way to purchase tickets, after the pre-sale and mail- in options went by the by. I preregistered this week with Ticketmaster, I thought, so that I would hopefully get a ticket to see my favorite BAND. My best friend and I hoping to relive the last Chicago show I can remember with the BAND, at the same venue under "The Other Ones" moniker. Well, I go to the website only to find that the ticket sale is 10:00 a.m. on Saturday. REGROUP. So I get up early on a Saturday to prepare for what I am sure is going to be a long day. I want to get tickets like everyone else in a bad way. I have an email that commemorates my prereg with what I thought was Ticketmaster. So I begin the journey get logged in with deadnet find out that I am not preregistered with ticketmaster. I reregister and find that ther are no tickets for sale on Ticketmaster site. What's going on? Did they cancel something, move back the sale stagger the sale, was it sold out in two seconds WTF????????? I go to my email, click this and that, I was preregistered not with Ticketmaster, but with Tickets Now ( a Ticketmaster Co. ) They have tickets but not for $50.00 or $95.00, they are scalping, I assume, the tickets that were confirmed by mail order, presale or who the F...knows. I won't pay much more than face for any event because you can get into Wrigley Field, Busch, Fox, Pageant, anywhere if you know what you are doing. I do NOT need a miracle, I want to pay value for value, NO PROBLEM. But this was sick and I do not blame it on the BAND. It is unmitigated greed from the people who purchased tickets early so they can go for free, Ticketmaster, or the venues themselves. (they are real dead heads) Capitalism is the WHEEL and we are the hamsters, So God Bless the Conspiracy!!!!!!!! I wasted numerous hours of time and even requested an alert from Ticket master as to when the tickets would go on sale still waiting, eight hours later. Well I did try to call Ticketmaster BUSY. Then I called a local (Belleville Il) Ticketmaster to find that they had tickets. They had tickets, but by this time only those going for $50.00. Ones you could buy from Tickets Now for at least twice face ++++++++ 100.00 tickets now going for $300, $400, $900. Why wasn't Ticketmaster selling tickets on line????? Why didn't Ticketmaster let people know that they could just go to a vendor and get tickets rather than putting a message on line that they had no tickets on-sale for the show. I'm knowing and believing the the BAND did not have anything to do with this ripoff> And, I was able to get a good ticket but not without having to go to Consider it Dan to get presale tickets that were not sold out. Doing this did force us to spend xtra money but value considered it was a good deal. Done ranting Feedback and hope someone in authority with the BAND gets with it!!!

Ticketmaster is selling tickets to Chicago online and yes you want to steer clear of Tickets Now. "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

I hear your pain. Not sure what went down but I am confident it has nothing to do with the band. Perhaps another scam in Corporate America? I bought tickets to a few shows and thought I'd check out another venue sold through Ticketmaster. Tickets had gone on sale 20 minutes earlier. When I tried to purchase I was told the floor was sold out, then tried for anything, and again sold out, but their "partner" Ticket something (probably the Ticket Now you mentioned, but I do not recall) did have tickets priced from $150-$717. They were directly on the Ticketmaster site. I was disenchanted, so I figured 2 shows will be enough. I don't mind paying face value, and their little surcharges, but this was such a turn off that I stopped looking for any other shows. I'm going back to the good old fashioned mail order next time. Glad you got tic's. Have a great show.

I was so looking forward to this tour. Then the sticker shock. I got over it. I'm going to charlottesville. I'll be the one in the tie dye see ya there.

I was on the ticketmaster sight at 10:00 when tickets went on sale. Tickets were sold out immediately for the MSG show. Ticketmaster then directed me to their sister site tickets now. The $100 tickets were now being sold for up to $3500. Ticket master sold all the tickets to themselves and now started charging obscene amounts. The cheapest available were 400 level tickets behind the stage and these were $180. This is BS. THE DEAD NEEDS TO STOP USING TICKET MASTER NOW.....there are other ways to sell tickets.

Whooo Hoooo, I'm in!!!! See yall there!!!