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    joennn24
    9 years 5 months ago
    Mix
    Listened to KFOG replay and the mix had Trey so out front I couldn't hear the rest of the band. Could just be the radio replay, but I wanna hear Phil, Bobby and the rest of the band. Can't wait to see it at the movie theater on Friday (and maybe Saturday and Sunday)
  • goverlid
    9 years 5 months ago
    Write on, Bros. Stephen & Eric!
    Thanks for my morning eye-opener!!
  • Eric Abrahamson
    9 years 5 months ago
    Fare Thee Well Grateful Dead, Pt. 2
    Watch 'em knock 'em dead in Chicago. I must've gone to at least 100 shows. The first one was in 1966 in the Golden Gate Park Panhandle, or the Furthur Fesival at San Francisco State College, whichever was first. I actually felt like Phil was addressing me personally when he made his speech at the end and thanked everyone for coming out, because I tried to get tickets to as many Phil Lesh and Friends at Terrapin Crossroads shows as I could. He came up to me there and let me say, "Hi," which rock stars don't have to do. However I couldn't afford to follow Bobby around like I used to, and he always lets me know, which is flattering that he invited me. He sang a song about losing money, which is true. He sang some other songs which might have been directed at me, and I instinctively responded by singing along. Then, at the beginning of the last song, "Fare Thee Well, My Honey", "Brokedown Palace", I thought he was like, he wanted me to sing along, so I did, and then he ended it abruptly, got in line with their arms on their shoulders, did their bow, and it was over, but I'm planning to see the live stream of all 3 Chicago shows at Terrapin Crossroads. When I went to UCI in 1987, my dad gave me $100,000/year, an apartment in grad student housing, a car, and a bunch of credit cards on his account. They tracked me into the Information and Computer Science major. Then he came down and took some of the credit cards back, and my sister took all 6 of my Irvine Meadows Grateful Dead tickets. Like William Burroughs wrote, "When did they ever give anything that they didn't take back if they could, and they always could!" and he went to Harvard. I went out and bought 6 more, at the inflated price of $50, for $300, and canceled the aftershow party at my apartmnent I'd posted on the Well. Because of losing the credit cards, I got a bad grade and had to go to CSUB. Laurie Senit moved in, and life was pretty good. We lived across from the campus in an apartment complex with 4 swimming pools and 4 jacuzzis, the 2nd best in town. My parents bought me a brand-new Toyota Tercel. Then my mom said, "We're going to send the two of you to Hawaii. Pick out a hotel from this brochure." I picked the Big Island because I'd been to Maui, and the Kona Hilton because the Dead liked Hiltons. In nearby Paradise Cove the scuba boat captain claimed he was on a first-name basis with Jerry. When Jerry died the Rolling Stone article said his house was in Kona, which I didn't know, and gave the name of his dive shop. I called information and the dive shop, they said it was across the street from the Kona Hilton, and Jerry probably did used to go scuba diving at Paradise Cove. They were showing videos of him scuba diving tonight. That's why I wanted to do it, but I had to do it straight, not being a rock star. I proposed to Laurie on the beach in Kona. We stopped at my parents' house in San Francisco on our way home. My dad, James Abrahamson, had 3 restaurants, Pam Pam East on Geary and Taylor, Rosebud's English Pub next door, and Biff's Coffee Shop on 28th and Broadway in Oakland, and he sold institutional furniture, commission contract sales, for Thonet and American Chair Co., and later Serta Mattress, in the Merchandise Mart on 10th and Market. My mother, Lucille Abrahamson, was elected to the San Francisco School Board twice, two years as President, worked in Mayor Dianne Feinstein's Office of Childcare, and was appointed S.F. Human Rights Commissioner by Mayor Frank Jordan, the former Police Chief. I told them we were engaged and my Dad said, "Don't marry her, I can't afford it. We sold the restaurants to Mama's, they went bankrupt, didn't pay, we went to court, the judge fined me $160,000, and they wanted me to declare bankruptcy." My little brother said later it was his half-partner, Bill Munro, the manager's fault. He abused the help, especially the head cook, who really ran the place, the union went on strike, won so many benefits they had to go out of business and sell it. Munro had cooked the books, the judge saw it, and hence the fine. My dad said it was because I had spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts, but I don't think that was correct, although I may have spent too much money. They wanted me to go to this psychiatrist in Bakersfield, Dr. Perelli-Minetti, who was a nice man. He said the Grateful Dead was OK. He was always telling me expensive restaurants to which to take Laurie, like where he took his wife, and encouraged me to spend lots of money on her, buy expensive dresses, jewelry, etc, so I thought it was OK. He gave me Risperdal when it first came out, in 1994. We didn't really go to that many Grateful Dead concerts. My dad didn't like the Grateful Dead and Bill Graham for other reasons. When I first got back from the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock, I tried to turn him on, he thought about it for a minute and decided no, he was afraid to get busted, he was too square to get on the bus. Later he said that Bill Graham had applied to join their Jewish men's club, the Concordia-Argonaut, on Van Ness and Geary, and that he was going to vote against him. Not only was he a hippie, and made his money that way, but he was an orphan, an immigrant, and a Holocaust survivor. What it really was is that Graham was more successful than him in the role of Jewish businessman. My brother moved to Mill Valley, said he saw Graham's house and was impressed. Graham made more money than all of them, and he started as a hippie, and that filled squares like my dad with jealousy, anger, envy, and rage. My dad said, "I wish the Grateful Dead were dead," in his outrageous way. When Bill Graham's helicopter crashed on the way home from the Concord Pavilion and they had his funeral in my dad's temple, Temple Emanu-el, my dad said, "I hope it didn't hurt the helicopter!" He even hated them during the Haight-Ashbury and helped the City Fathers drive them out of town. My family was spending a lot of money at first, and I thought they were encouraging me to emulate them. When he first gave me the $100,000/year, the credit cards on his account, and sent me to UCI, my dad was acting like he could afford for me to buy anything I saw that I wanted. Then he told not to buy anything over $200, and I complied. They were all spending lots of money. He had 2 new BMW"s and a new Mercedes-Benz. He and my mom went on a temple tour of Eastern Europe and stayed in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, she said it was a five-star hotel. My sister went to Yale after me, in Art, then got a Masters in Art Education at Stanford, an Ed.D. at Harvard, a J.D. at Cal, got a job in the White House as Assistant Chief-of-Staff to Vice-President H.W. Bush in the Ronald Reagan White House and then Founding Chairman of the Barbara Bush Campaign For Family Literacy (me at UCI) in the President H.W. Bush White House. There's a photo of her and Vice-President H.W. Bush having an audience with Pope John Paul in Sweden, and she is shaking hands with the Pope. That dress must have cost something, not to mention the travel. In her closet I saw hundreds of French gowns, and more shoes than Imelda Marcos. She met this guy from the Council of Foreign Relations in Washington, D.C., a USC Professor of International Relations, Jonathan Aronson. He went to Harvard and Stanford in Political Science, and his father was a rich St. Louis banker. They bought a mansion in Bel-Air near the Reagans', put in an Italian marble bathtub, baby grand piano, swimming pool, his self-portrait in the living room, pirates' table, Persian rug, and he drove a Jaguar S3. He said, "We're going to Paris for 2 weeks," "I'm going to Thailand to speak," and they had their son's Bar Mitzvah in Bali, so they didn't hold back on the spending. They took the whole family, including me, to the Club Med in Ixtapa, but they went bankrupt because I spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts! My brother spent $2000 of my dad's money for a Rolex watch to keep up with the other Oshos and flew back and forth to India every few weeks for years. They flew me there, to Europe twice, and to Hawaii twice. I guess my dad was having problems, and he asked me to spend less money, but he didn't really communicate that I should spend less money because he was having financial problems. I was spending too much money on Laurie. So I ignored him. So he took away some credit cards, and I kept spending at the same level. I couldn't comprehend that commission contract sales is an up-and-down business. Then two new credit cards, each with a $5000 limit, came in the mail. I should have sent them back, but I couldn't resist the temptation. Soon I realized that I couldn't let my dad find out about them, because he would take them away, too. I set out to get revenge on him for taking away my credit cards by charging even *more* money. The first thing I did was take Laurie to the most expensive restaurant in Los Angeles, Spago's, $140 for salmon for two. Then the 2nd most expensive, Palms in West Hollywood. Then dresses, jewelry, and when we went to Hawaii we did the same thing with the recreation. Maybe *that's* what drove my dad into near-bankruptcy, not the Grateful Dead concerts. We really didn't go to that many. I just spent a lot of money on her. She just liked to go to movies, comedy clubs, country-western dance halls, miniature golf, roller skating, she was always thinking of something. They cut my allowance from $100,000/year to $40,000/year, my sister and brother-in-law, Joan and Jonathan, became "trustees of your trust fund", keep the Blue Cross PPO. They took away all 12 of my credit cards and defaulted on them, leaving me in debt to the credit card companies for $15,000, with bad credit to this day, since 1993. They raised it up to $60,000 and I moved to New Mexico, near the Castagnas who used to live at the Hog Farm. Alberto asked me to call my mother, father, sister, and brother-in-law and ask each of them for $10,000 for a liver transplant for his Hepatitis C because his job as Director of Taos County Ambulances, working his way up from paramedic and EMT, didn't have good insurance. They said no. Maybe that's what set 'em off. They asked me to go to a psychiatrist, who dismissed me. Then Laurie wanted me to come back to Los Angeles and move in to her apartment. They wanted me to find another psychiatrist. I found psychedelic therapist Dr. Robert Newport online at the Island Group in Santa Cruz, referred by Bruce Eisner, but my sister fought with him and he lost his license for prescribing medications, including Risperdal, without seeing the patients. I called him and he said, "Did your sister let up on you yet? I'm not a psychiatrist any more, I'm a painter." So they took me to Dr. Lisa Fine, who also gave me Risperdal, which gave me diabetes. Laurie got it too, from Seroquel. They found the diabetes when a cardiolgist wanted to do an emergency heart surgery,an angiogram and an angioplasty. My brother drove my sister-in-law's Ford Escort to L.A. from Sedona. They said they were going to give it to me. He showed it to me and said, "This is your car." They said they were going to give it to me after the surgeries, but they changed their mind and never did. My car had totally broken down at a job interview in Irvine just a few days before my appointment with the cardiologist, who decided I was going to have emergency heart surgery. When I recovered I stopped by at some friends from the Cubensis shows and they talked me into starting going to shows again, to the Phil Lesh and Friends show and the Ratdog show at the Wiltern, and the Ratdog show at the House of Blues. I'd told Richie on the phone I'd stopped going to shows when Jerry died and he'd said, "I did too." They had a picture of them with the 4 original members in an airport on the way to a concert called The Dead. After that, this psychologist Eric Asa-Dorian from the Life Adjustment Team, probably a drug rehab, they said her mother called, shows up in our living room, posing as a Deadhead, except with more, better tickets than me. Then they got me to go to LAT and I never knew it was a drug rehab, it was disguised as marriage counseling or something. In the end they took the $60,000/year except for meds, medical bills, Anthem Blue Cross PPO, SSI, and put me in Brentwood Manor board-and-care home for two years, I think illegally, before I had learned how to treat the diabetes, so it had developed another complication besides the heart disease, metabolic syndrome, diabetic neuropathy, or diabetic nerve pain, or "burning feet". When they moved me out of Laurie's apartment 12 years ago with the Comcast that was the last time they let me have cable, except for a brief period. No police, no arrest, no charges, no hearing, no trial, no sentence, no jail, no prison, no due process. No evidence or proof that *I* ever did anything wrong, as far as I'm concerned, frames and smears I've never heard, let alone allowed to answer. I said I'd sue all of them for $2 billion for attempted murder, elder financial abuse, false imprisonment, psychiatric torture, medical malpractice, emotional anguish, pain and suffering, and my attorney, Bruce Margolin, who'd been Timothy Leary's attorney (I went to a fundraiser they had at Timothy Leary's house in Beverly Hills when he was running for State Senator), said, "Where'd you get the $2 billion?" so $200 million is more in the range, I think. I had to get a job selling Sprint phones B2B to small businesses in the South, work my way out of there and get some financial aid from Cal State East Bay. I'd been a junior Computer Science major at Cal State Northridge when I was living with Laurie before the surgeries. And Tina Kimmel, a Cal Ph.D. in Social Work I met at the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock got my sister to give me a $68,000 annuity that my dad left me, so that was pretty good, so I got to go to Monterey and Camp Winnarainbow, and they're paying for a lot of things now. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. I'm still a senior Computer Science major and pre-law. Afterwards Alberto died, I called Richie from the board-and-care, he called my sister, I called him back, and he had terminal liver cancer. Alberto flew out and carved his tombstone, and he picked out wood for Tinker to make his coffin, but my sister wouldn't give me $100 to visit him at Camp Winnarainbow before he died. Steve had died of hep C. Then Hunter Thompson committed suicide. When I was going to the LAT psychiatrist to whom they forced me to go, I emailed Cap'n Skypilot to post something I could show him on his office computer, and he wrote a story about a man whose parents he said were responsible for the death of Ken Kesey and the assassination of JFK. When I got up here Vince Welnick committed suicide. I ran into Lou Todd, then he got sick and died, and then Tinker, who I once saw drive the Furthur bus. Charlene said her landlady wouldn't rent her house anymore, she moved in with her daughter; her other daughter got accused of murder, and she didn't do it. Laurie's elementary schoolteacher friend's apartment caught on fire and they blamed her. My Deadhead lawyer friend said his SUV caught on fire. I can't figure out the reason for all this. I would be interested if anybody, especially with legal knowhow, had any helpful advice. I'm thinking of appealing to my Yale classmates, to see if any of them are big-time lawyers yet, and I don't think any Democratic politicians have seen it, since most of them don't have email addresses. They were telling people I was dying, but the doctors said my numbers were good, so you can't die from controlled diabetes, maybe it was just wish-fulfillment. And Jerry famously died of a diabetic heart attack in a drug rehab, maybe someone got ideas. While I was in Brentwood the lawyer sent me a copy of the trust instrument where my parents had initialed that when my mom dies, the inheritance, which it originally says was divided into thirds between me, my brother, and sister, they rubbed me out and divided it in half between my brother and sister. She'll get my mom's house worth about $2 million, and she has a $4.3 million house in Bel-Air, and a house in Telluride, and my dad bought my brother a house in Sedona. I was living in Laurie's apartment. My brother will get my dad's commercial property in Oakland, a tire and party store. And there's some money they'll divide in half. Eric Abrahamson Yale University Class of '71 Pierson College
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Grateful Dead Original Members Add Two Dates To Final Concerts

April 10, 2015

The original members of Grateful Dead have announced two additional shows at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California on June 27th and 28th, as part of their “Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of Grateful Dead” run. Along with the three shows at Chicago's Soldier Field on July 3rd, 4th, and 5th, the run will mark the original members' last-ever performances toget

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Not denying anything - I want a ticket, even one. I have asked almost everyone here. How is that embarrassing? I also defended you when another guy was calling you a douche.
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First off - Limp Bizkit is not my band, it was a reference, since I still have a memory. Woodstock III was a pretty famous event, riots, fires rapes, pretty much everything bad society has to offer. As for whether gate crashing is good or bad, I know what I think of gate crashing, I am asking YOU what your point is on it. You are being unclear as to whether you think those shut out of the show should crash the gate or not? Are you saying that the band suggests civil disobedience by singing a song? If so, then yes the comparison to what occurred at Woodstock III is a valid one, if not, again I am at a loss. As for my level of intelligence, well I am pretty sure I would stack up against most. My double wide is nicer than most in this here trailer park. In any event, I am done debating you since there is no debate with someone who just suggests someone is stupid for not understanding what they are conveying - even as incoherently as you are. Wow dude, um if I would take a scalp, then I would have purchased off of Stubhub, I make more than enough to do so. What I had hoped for was that you actually had a soul and would be a proper seller on this site.
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What else needs to be said there.
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jsjsjj KEKKKE!!!! kdkkekkkekk kekkkkkkkeke kkkekek JDJDJ JAJSJJDJ JDJJEJJSJSJJJ!!! HAHA HDHHHAHH!! ldlllslslsl llsl!!! JJEJAJSLLL!!! help...me...
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...you two. Get a room.
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Since I heard of the reunion until now (chronologically): *Surprised, elated and excited *Anticipation ensued after mail order sent *Message came very quickly, sadness *Excitement builds as time goes on *More anticipation becoming intense *Week of online sale... getting stressful, bad news abounding *Super exciting almost nerve breaking TM debacle *Up and down hope no hope hope no hope through discussions here *Outright disgust, empathy, apathy and bewilderment from reading the posts here *Hopelessness of the inevitable (not going) *Some solace that life goes on, the stress is over and back to listening (Oakland New Year's '79-80)
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Please kick this (tt) jackass off the member group again, there are many reasons he does not belong here...
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I have to say though, KLOWNSTONE is funny as hell! You actually made me laugh, you do have quite the sense of humor. Have fun with your ttrolling...(and peace to you regardless of your attitude) I'm out...
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alright, fair enough later and enjoy your trip
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I know right? I have been going through the 5 stages of grief ever since getting my pink slip. That awesome, Chevette driving, head from Buffalo has been amazing to talk to. I want to go to Chicago just to meet him face to face and buy him a beer or 10 - the stories must be amazing. Most here have been awesome in helping me deal with it, since the wife doesn't understand. What I do wish is that we could all get past the complaining of what went wrong and start working on making things sort of right within the parameters we have currently. Personally, I think I am at acceptance and will move on, maybe go see Phil at TXR in the summer. Also diggin the shows with Billy, Chimenti and Kimock, in New Orleans. Sold out, but maybe some more coming. Also still thinking about the parking lot thing. If they do set up screens and speakers in the lot, it is essentially the same as being behind the stage, but without the crap of going through security (so nut jobs like tt can shiv us all as we party). Still, I think I agree with you Klangstone, I would need something like that in stone with a ticket in my hand to make the voyage to mecca...can't say it still wouldn't be fun to hang out again...I didn't always get in and didn't always mind (at least not this much).
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I would really like to meet Chevette man as well. In another life maybe... "...and now, back to your regularly scheduled program."
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Since some tin foil hat folks haven't heard the news... "David Gans reports on Tales from the Golden Road... A majority of tickets and a majority of the best tickets for Fare Thee Well went to GDTSTOO. The original split of tickets was a three-way split between GDTS, the cancelled fan pre-sale, and the regular Ticketmaster on on-sale. After the demand for mail order was realized they renegotiated the deal so GDTS received the pre-sale tickets as well. Furthermore, for those that haven't received a rejection letter yet, you still have a chance at mail order tickets albeit slim. They also reported the amount of VIP and package tickets were very limited. The Bears fans had very limited seats which were mainly high dollar club and box seats. As of Sunday afternoon, only 2.86% of all seats for the 3 night run are available on Stubhub. That's 5997 out of 210,000. That includes if you multiply the 3 day tickets by 3 (for each night). Many of these are multiple listings offered at different prices. Most brokerage's overlap meaning less than 5% of available seats are possibly listed on aftermarket sites including multiple and fake listings." Overall, the vast majority of tickets are in the hands of GD fans, and the vast majority of good seats are in the hands of GD fans. This explains why such a miniscule percentage of tickets are available in the aftermarket, and why unless you were buying single day tickets on Saturday only side and rear stage were available for the 3 day package. Though it may be painful that you weren't one of the lucky ones to receive tickets, at least the tickets went to other fans. Having so many tickets in hands of fans means there will be a lot of trading, miracles, and face value tickets day of show(s). It's going to be great. :)
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The whirlwind of emotion has been the most draining aspect but has also reaffirmed how much I would love to go back in time one more time. Someone else posted a comment that at the time I wished I could share the viewpoint but wasn't there yet and I am still not but getting closer, especially after reading some negative posts. He said, he would cherish his memories and is ok that he didn't get a ticket because someone else may need that experience more than he does, maybe someone that has never been to a show or someone that has been to hundreds. Embracing that viewpoint could help me come to terms with this. Tt if your brother truly lost his life when Jerry did that I am so sorry for you, I can see why you are stuck in the anger phase and I hope for the sake of your 3 year old if you really have one that you get the help you need. Peace to all of you. Hoping that that email for any of us in limbo land, comes through in the near future that we are keeping the faith for.
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I'm gonna come home from work and brew a potent hot chocolate psilocybin cup and watch the Sunshine Daydream dvd and forget about all this hubbub for a night. Ahhhhhhhh how refreshing that will be here in Sacramento California. Looking forward to Friday! Ya'll should do the same....if possible.
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Good idea, Truckineric. I wonder if that naked guy backstage on the scaffolding for most of the show ever new he made the movie. Try making up funny stories about him while watching ala Mysterious Science 2000. It's kind of fun.
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thanks for clearing that up, sorry to hear about your brother, we all do crazy things to make others happy. I had rationalized the CID too by the time no pinky or email came around and its for the best it didn't happen. The "last time" pull makes it easy to rationalize things we wouldn't normally do. After the long MO wait is resolved closure will be rejuvenating.
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I know it was a couple weeks ago when I recorded, but I finally watched it tonight. I had seen it before, but it's still fantastic. Not only 3 songs by the boys with Jerry rocking about, but a really good SNL performance as well. '78 was probably the best SNL cast.
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Everyone one knows Rahm Emanuel owns a majority interest in Soldier Field. This is clearly a money making scam by him and Obama to fleece the hippie community out years of back taxes they have failed to pay. Wake up sheeple!
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GDtstooWhen will all the non winners have their money orders returned? Can you tell us if you at least finished sending them out? Paid Priority mail, I should have it by now. By the sounds of it I am not the only one. Thank you.
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Now, we're blaming Rahm Emanuel ? You're being ridiculous, right? It can be hard to detect sarcasm before one finishes their first cuppa coffee.
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If any tickets on stub/vivid/ebay etc. are from mail order, they have to be GApit. They don't know where there seat is.. Almost all of the sections with no seats for sale match. All mail order tickets... Keep the faith
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Well folks, this appears to be the kiss of death e-mail from the folks at GDTS TOO. This is an auto reply I just received on an in-bound mail to them: Hi Folks, We are still feverishly returning money orders to those not fortunate to get tix. All winners have been contacted by email. A few bounced back emails are being processed and it will take us a few weeks to create a data base to match them up. No need to contact us until April, and, by then you will or will not have received your order back, so it should narrow the field. Thank you for your patience understanding during this Deluge. Elvis and the GDTS Crew
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What is there email address that you are getting this information from?
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to elvis @gdtstoo.com Hi Folks, We are still feverishly returning money orders to those not fortunate to get tix. All winners have been contacted by email. A few bounced back emails are being processed and it will take us a few weeks to create a data base to match them up. No need to contact us until April, and, by then you will or will not have received your order back, so it should narrow the field. Thank you for your patience understanding during this Deluge. Elvis and the GDTS Crew to gdtstoo @gdtstoo.com Greetings all, Due to high email volume, we are not accepting emails at this time. Please refer to the links below to answer any questions. Latest Update: gdtstoo.com/GDTSTOOupdate.html Mail order instructions: gdtstoo.com/GDTSTOOInstru.html Dead50 Concert information: gdtstoo.com/GDTSTOODead50.html Please follow the above directions as closely as possible when filling out your orders. Thank you, The team at GDTS TOO "There's a band out on the highway They're high steppin' into town It's a rainbow full of sound It's fireworks, calliopes and clowns"
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So they hired 60 people after the 66,000 MO come in. 6,000 emails? 60,000 to return? If they can open 100 envelopes each per day, it would take 10 days to mail 60,000. No way they are still scrambling to get these out...or the article quoting GDTS TOO saying they hired 60 people is BS. OR they are so high they can only manage a few envelopes per day. WTF?
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I really have no idea since information is poor at best, but from here it sounds like if you didn't get an email by the 27th, then no luck. http://gdtstoo.com/GDTSTOOupdate.html btw, if you are still waiting for an email make sure to check your spam/junk folder.
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Why so many with MO's cashed and no email
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That would totally contradict that automatic reply e-mail from GDTS, right?
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Hey Scott - confusion warranted and frankly, you nailed it. And it raises just so many other questions... - chances of MO tix were 1:10 - 66K envelops received means 6,600 lucky heads got tix (congrats, y'all!!) - let's assume a worst case, most ticket request/ask scenario of 4 per show times three nights. That equals 4x3x6,600= 79,200 tickets - 210K total seats available less 79.2k for mail order = 130,800 seats left. So, after deducting who knows how many for the band, media, CID, PSL's for Bears, etc... where are all the rest of the100K seats? For those that haven't seen it, here's the GDTS TOO auto reply I received: Hi Folks, We are still feverishly returning money orders to those not fortunate to get tix. All winners have been contacted by email. A few bounced back emails are being processed and it will take us a few weeks to create a data base to match them up. No need to contact us until April, and, by then you will or will not have received your order back, so it should narrow the field. Thank you for your patience understanding during this Deluge. Elvis and the GDTS Crew
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There's a whole lot more to handling the mail order requests than opening envelopes. First thing I'm sure they did was check the incoming envelopes for a return address and the requested tickets on the outside of the envelope (both required elements for actually getting into the "lottery"). Those envelopes contents will be automatically returned using the SASE. After that each index card must be checked to ensure that people did things correctly and that the money orders match - then I'm guessing they filed these somehow - how else to catch duplicate orders, and I am very sure they made every effort to weed out people who made multiple requests for the same show(s). Doing things carefully to ensure fairness is way more than "opening a few envelopes". So get over yourself. It overwhelmed them but they still took the time and care to ensure a fair process. I am very happy they did. take care, connie
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" A few bounced back emails are being processed and it will take us a few weeks to create a data base to match them up" This part makes no sense to me. You don't need a data base for a "few" emails. If it's alot of emails, then that would explain cashed MOs and no emails. IMO, MO tracking is probably poor at best. I've had plenty of post office trackings showing delivered when in fact the item was not. A public update on their web site would help. At least to let people know where they stand.
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Thanks Connie for your re-assurance... Really? I'm confident in saying every head on here knows the GDTS MO protocol without even having to see their cleverly done video on "how-to." It's also 100% clear that their internal protocols weren't followed most likely via the temps they hired because many multiple envelop send-ins received their emails confirming tickets. That's always been a no-no with mail orders. Cheers.
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You missed my point. I am not knocking GDTS TOO. There is more to the story than they are letting us know. I believe to our benefit.
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If the email from Elvis is accurate. There should be a big pile of envelopes with millions in money orders. All they have to do is open envelope, stuff SASE and mail our money back. They don't need to read anything. They are not doing that, I don't believe they are "at fault" I am just saying there is more to the story and my bet is it is good news, not bad.
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Multiple orders for the same show are most definitely against the rules - multiple envelopes for a different show per envelope has always been used to help ensure that you get at least one show. I know people who have done it that way since the Warfield shows way back in the dim times... In any case, the posts I saw about multiple requests being filled were multiple envelopes with each envelope being for a different show. I really do believe the folks at GDTSTOO are looking out for us and trying the best they can to ensure all is fair. And I also believe some people (if only those whose email bounced) will yet find out that they do indeed have tickets. take care, connie
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Still no pink slip in my mailbox...hoping anyone who gets one or, better yet, an Email lets the rest of us know!
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I believe you are right...there will be more miracles...
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"Everyone one knows Rahm Emanuel owns a majority interest in Soldier Field. This is clearly a money making scam by him and Obama to fleece the hippie community out years of back taxes they have failed to pay. Wake up sheeple!" < Yes, this was sarcasm aimed at a few people who are obsessed with tin foil hat conspiracies about the entire process. I hope you were able to finish your coffee. *flowers* Keep repeating the facts... "David Gans reports on Tales from the Golden Road... A majority of tickets and a majority of the best tickets for Fare Thee Well went to GDTSTOO. The original split of tickets was a three-way split between GDTS, the cancelled fan pre-sale, and the regular Ticketmaster on on-sale. After the demand for mail order was realized they renegotiated the deal so GDTS received the pre-sale tickets as well. Furthermore, for those that haven't received a rejection letter yet, you still have a chance at mail order tickets albeit slim. They also reported the amount of VIP and package tickets were very limited. The Bears fans had very limited seats which were mainly high dollar club and box seats. As of Sunday afternoon, only 2.86% of all seats for the 3 night run are available on Stubhub. That's 5997 out of 210,000. That includes if you multiply the 3 day tickets by 3 (for each night). Many of these are multiple listings offered at different prices. Most brokerage's overlap meaning less than 5% of available seats are possibly listed on aftermarket sites including multiple and fake listings." Overall, the vast majority of tickets are in the hands of GD fans, and the vast majority of good seats are in the hands of GD fans. This explains why such a miniscule percentage of tickets are available in the aftermarket, and why unless you were buying single day tickets on Saturday only side and rear stage were available for the 3 day package.
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When you look at the tickets available from Stubhub, etc, I get a smile on my face. With only a tiny percentage on the aftermarket for this event and even a smaller percentage of the majority of good seats or seats with stage view, it means the system has worked. Two thirds of all tickets went to GDTS and a majority of the good seats. Sure, once tickets arrive there may be some people that cash in while some scalpers may get mail order, but fans got the most seats. If you look at the 3 day packages, seats with a view are nearly non-existent. It's awesome. A higher percentage of tickets are available on a daily basis for baseball games. All this leads me to believe there are going to be a lot of miracles before and on the day of show(s) once tickets are distributed. The people who are patient and diligent will find a way to get tickets. *dance*
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That is one of the most positive ways I have seen this whole thing looked at so far. If that is the case, then hats off to GD for doing all it could to try and fight the MAN on this one.
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Thanks for turning this post around with facts - you rock. Great to keep the positive vibes going especially realizing that it is mostly Heads that are going! Let's help our bro's and sisters out by posting your email number (if you got one). The highest post I have seen so far is #389. Has anyone gotten anything higher? Anyone receive one today? Also want to see who's going? Give a shout out here if you are attending and tell us who you're bringing! Keep the faith and there will be dancin' in the streets of Chicago... Be Kind.
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I saw #420 Friday am on this site....about an hour or 2 after CID VIP started...don't remember which sub forum though... So if 660 are honored, that leaves like a third or 240 in limbo with high hopes....
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It was very, very early. That cup, and the rest of the pot, long since gone. My sense of humor has since woken up. :-)
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Somehow my post didn't go through so I am going to give it a second go. No offense to you personally, but I'm taking your "facts" with a grain of salt since you just joined this site two days ago and seem to be particularly keen in concluding (and spreading the word) that everything is hunky dory. Frankly, I don't find that to be particularly credible. We will see how it turns out--hopefully a bunch of Heads end up at the show paying face value and trading with friends. However, your facts have a lot of potential holes, first and foremost of which you are relying on an interpretation of some questionable statements made by David Gans. Where is the statement from the band about this wonderful GDTS TOO renegotiation? How did converting the presale to mail order change the equation other than eliminating an option many were targeting? Second, you are ignoring the fact that scalpers won't flood the market four months before an event. Looking at Stubhub, the total ticket availability is not going down but its also not going up at a rate that is substantially reducing the prices. It's way to early to proclaim what you are putting forth to be factual. What can't be reasonably debated is that the whole process was a cluster and that many people got screwed in many different ways. If the reality turns out to be as you describe, then the damage will certainly be mitigated to a great degree, but its way too early to tell.
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You can never fully predict the ticket market, much like stocks. However, I was a professional concert vendor up until a few years ago, and I started on dead tour. I still work Waka, Roo, and Lockn' mainly because I love concerts and meeting people while vending. I've been to more than 10k concerts, festivals and sporting events. Most times, if there is a will there is a way. I really think there will be a lot of trades, face value, and lower brokered tickets running up to the day of the show. I'd also expect a box office release but scalpers will camp overnight at the box office. People who diligently work fakebook, forums, craigslist, and the aftermarkets will find a reasonable way into the concert. Personally, I think showing up Thursday and hitting the town with a positive, extrovert personality will be the best way to get tickets. I've never been embarrassed to ask strangers if they had extras, strike up a conversation with a smile, and leave my phone number. The only two shows I've ever been shut ouf of were the Phil and friends with Trey at the Fillmore in SF and Phish at Radio City Music hall the first time they played. Stay Positive... like The Hold Steady song.
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The only facts are some got MO emails, some got CID VIP +/- hotels, some got side or no view TM ripoffs....the scalper seats are out there and over 95% appear to suck ass based on the price asked, A little hope from Svengali or whoever is not the worst thing in the world.... However the math still does not add up re MO....if someone comes forward with an email confirmation number of 600+ I will rest my case, until then....I'm all second star to the right, and straight on to morning.....