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January 14, 2009 - 5:02pm

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marye

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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --
Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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June 5, 2009 - 11:12am

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Hal R

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reseeding topic

On further thought, I think a reseeding topic would be fine. If no one offered to reseed a vine there, a pmail could be sent with a request for a reseed to one of the folks who already got the vine. To those who have been discussing this, thanks for thinking about this stuff and furthering the cause of keeping the vines running smoothly. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
June 5, 2009 - 9:59am

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pomo1

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The only reason

why I suggest a new topic is because most people, or at least I dont go through vine topics that i have already received and passed on. As a result, I have no idea that a vine which I already received has stalled. How am I supposed to offer to re-seed if i am not aware a vine has stalled? I suppose a pm system might work, but I don't see the harm in a separate topic asking for re-seeds. We can also post in the specific vine topic as well. A central re-seed request topic is something we can all check periodically. If I see a vine that I have, I can offer to re-seed without me continually checking each and every vine topic. We can post our offer to re-seed in the actual vine topic, as well. My opinion is to give it a shot and see if it works. However, if the community is against it, it is no big deal. I just think it will make it easier to re-seed without having to visit every topic. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
June 5, 2009 - 9:31am

#323

JackstrawfromC…

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I like your suggestion Pomo1

But if we could modify #3 to what Hal is suggesting, we'll be set. Lets keep a re-seeded vine on the original thread to keep all the info in one place. Next - how do we deal with folks who cannot be reached, so they get skipped but then they show back up and want the vine that skipped them? If you have to skip someone, move their name to the bottom of the list, or to the next in line on the list? I suppose this could remain flexible but if you get skipped, you should be able to still get the vine eventually I just don't know if it is fair to have to wait until the end of the list. But that would be the easiest solution. Or the person just has to sign back up again... Then again maybe I'm making too big a deal about it?? Just thought I'd throw that out there since we are on the topic... Have a grate weekend everyone and happy vining! "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
June 5, 2009 - 9:02am

#324

Hal R

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pomo 1

reseeding vines topic - I am not sure if this is best as its own topic or not. After all if you already have a vine, you might not be looking through the reseed topic. I have reseeded several and the way I did it was by getting a pmail with a request for a reseed. It seems to work that way and also by posting on that vine's specific topic, thread. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
June 5, 2009 - 7:19am

#325

pomo1

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Consensus?

1. FLAC is the preferred format, but ultimately it is up to the seeder. As in the past, people should feel free to request that someone create audio cds from a FLAC vine, and it is up to fellow viners to choose to do so. 2. Re-vining an occassional show is not prohibited, provided there is at least some justification for doing so, such as the show fits within the theme of the new vine or it is a quality upgrade. 3. There will be a separate topic for requests regarding re-seeding a stalled vine. Before re-seeding, all reasonable efforts should be made to get the vine moving. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
June 5, 2009 - 5:09am

#326

Exploratory Da…

Joined:
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flac

I am not against flac. Flac all you want. In fact, I have gotten a few flac vines by accident. I thought they were CD vines. I burned them to a DVD for storage and "future" use. I just don't want to see all vines go flac--that's all.
June 4, 2009 - 3:09pm

#327

Arkdeadhead

Joined:
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Well Said Birdsong!

I prefer flac because it ultimately puts less strain on my burner, but if my only option is burning a few cds for a show that I want, then so be it. I like flac for the quality, and for the reason I just stated. A 20 cd vine in the end, ends up being 40 cds once i get done uploading them to iTunes and then burning them, but I still love my CDS and until I get a transmitter that broadcasts my iTunes library through my stereo receiver then CDs are what I am stuck with it. Any way to listen to the Dead is better than no way!!
June 4, 2009 - 1:08pm

#328

UncleJon

Joined:
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Its great to be a part of this !

Derek, I really enjoyed your diatribe - it was quite constructive - and from the last couple of days I'm glad to see we still have a pulse out here...Y'all rock! I am a big fan of FLAC over WAV. FLAC are ridicuilously easy to manipulate with Traders's Little Helper and you can even play them back with foobar 2000 which you can get here: www.foobar2000.org Anyone who needs help using FLAC format I'm willing to work with you - PM me. As for vine duplication, it is getting harder to avoid, and in cases where only a WAV version previously circulated, FLAC would be an upgrade. Not to say that there aren't plenty of other ways to download these. And FLAC definitely takes up less space. Cosmic, what size hardhat do you wear? I am always game to reseed anything I've touched. Lonestar, thanks for doing some sleuthing - I'll reseed the 1st Anniversary Vine. I think a reasonable vine turnaround is 3-4 days with the ocassional week here and there. I'm certainly guilty of being slow now and then or failing to remember to post. But, I will never fail to answer a PM nor will I be offended if I am called on a slow turnaround - we all have the same goal - spread the music. Peace brothers and sisters! "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
June 4, 2009 - 12:56pm

#329

Birdsong1969NJ

Joined:
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Flac you! Or Compression vs. MP3/Wav

My thought process during these Vineyard "meetings of the minds" with a lot of different opinions is; I try to put myself in that makeshift Sausalito office with unmatching squeaky chairs in a band meeting, and think - "What would Jerry say"? In my imagination of course it would go something like this: (He lights a Camel)" Listen Man, who gives a shit? If Joe-Blow (no pun intended) has a machine from the fucking "Enterprise" that will compress musical notes into macromolecules so be it. Let him flac away. If Joe-Snow (pun intended) has the original boom box from the Fat Albert show that just plays plain old CD's, well he should be able to listen to the same stuff as Blow. I don't care about the music once it leaves our stacks, but they do, so it should be made available to all." I share Jerry's opinion. Some of the community is not Flac compatible. They should not be told what they can and what they cannot get off this forum. On the other hand people that are compression friendly have the choice to sign up for a vine that is not compressed. Something Iknowurider said struck me. She said " I have a good many shows that leave a lot to be desired concerning sound quality, but over the years I guess I've felt/heard them so much that I don't even notice. UNTIL I get the primo stuff, whoo hoo!!!" I can relate. The primo stuff is UN-REAL. It is the quality I dreamed of when I had my quite large collection of scratchy fucked up cassettes. I listened to a choice few (Freedom Hall 74' I would rewind Eyes of the World over and over and over, Barton Hall 77', and Starlight Amphitheatre 85') until they were so stretched out Jerry sounded like a frog on helium or they had some form of liquid spilled and spent too many hours on a 120 degree dashboard that they would just seize up and I would be pulling spools of tape out of my Alpine! Point is, then IT DID NOT MATTER! I have never been one to like light cigarettes (quit two years ago!), light beer, or any kind of stepped on watered down shit! When I heard my first couple of compressed soundboards of shows that I had listened too a million times I WAS HOOKED! I am not a "techy" but I am figuring out how to make Flac work for me because I love the quality. That's my choice. Exploratory Data does not want to spend the time and neither does his machine. That's his choice. This community should make a pact to provide the music for anyone who has the capability to so in any modern (no LP's, 45's, 8-Tracks or cassettes please!) format. I think the reality is, it will always be up to the seeder to decide how she, or he is going to vine the show. If she or he decides to seed just a compressed version in my experience there will always be some cool person that will convert them and add the MP3's to the vine if there is a request. (These opinions of "what would Jerry say" are purely from my warped Lysergic infused brain and are not meant to make anyone think I am a totally psycho dude who thinks he's Jerry). "Say you'll come back when you can Whenever your airplane happens to land Maybe I'll be back here too It all depends on what's with you."
June 4, 2009 - 11:26am

#330

Exploratory Da…

Joined:
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No Flac

I perfer audio Wav or MP3 files. I don't have time for flac files, and it takes 1 hour to unflac/unpak 1 show on my computer. I don't have an ipod, itunes or iphone or any other "i" device. So, before the pro-Flac vigilantes take over, let me say, keep the audio CDs a coming--especially for 3 or less shows in a vine.

Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

Mark

......do you sleep? Is everything OK? "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."

Mark - you need to re-do your math.

I maintain a vining spreadsheet - and have signed up for 31 - received 30, with an average turnaround time of less than one day. Also, the last vine i signed up for was in mid to late 2008. (ratdog never showed up - it's has been lost forever). You may be confusing vines received with vines started - which would push that number up pretty high for me.So - i wouldn't be a vine slut - but a vine sugardaddy

Help with specific shows?

I've been looking for 12-30-82 and 12-31-82 (with Etta James) also 12-31-90. Peace, Richard

Bob

I am looking for Cumberland County Civic Center Spring 86' . Actually any shows on that East coast swing. "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."

Mark, if you dropped outta the top 5 then I guess that makes me

a top five vine slut. I didn't realize I'd stooped so low. I'm havin' a hard time believin' I am signed up for 39 vines I haven't received yet. Now I need to do some checking. I need to move the seedier side of the vine for awhile instead. Anyone interested in Los Lobos or Hot Tuna? Mark, get some sleep tonight. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"

I would love to see....

A massive Hornsby vine. I know that there is a lot already on here, but I am sure there are shows that we haven't covered after he left the Dead and would just sit in. How about a guest spot vine--classic shows with guests (Branford, Duane, Beach Boys...etc). Maybe not even complete shows but a compilation. Just a thought from vine slut #3!

It's good practice for marketable spreadsheeting skills!

And it goes more quickly than you'd think. Yes, I do have a little more free time on my hands, and I've been catching up on Adult Swim. I can see how those Deadbase guys got sucked into this kind of stuff. sunshine-daydream, re: missing monsters - by missing I meant lost vines, not omitted shows. Keith's First Few Months; Autumn '72 pt. 1 September; Eurovine #4 US Branch; November '72 - all disappeared months ago. (the gig with Etta James sounds interesting though, loves me some Etta) erickat: Happy anniversary, looks like it's about a year that you've been here! That total vine number is the number of vines a viner is currently signed up for but hasn't received yet, not the total number the viner has *ever* signed up for. If it was I'd be up to over 130 completed + the ones I'm waiting on. In your case: you signed up for 31, received 30 so 31 - 30 = 1, which is what I show. I did note that I included the signup lists for the deceased vines (like the Ratdog vine) - I'll probably go back through and delete some of those, but maybe some of them will get restarted. I wasn't about to take the time to go through every post for every vine, I just found the most recent signup lists and started from there. I keep track of my own turnaround time, but I haven't calculated an average. Probably up to several days by now. I had a feeling that maybe people didn't realize how many vines they were signed up for, it kind of creeps up on you. Although, for example, fluffhead420 is near the top of the list now his number will start going down as the rate of vines he completes exceeds the rate of new vines he signs up for. There is probably some average "peak vine signup" number, where a steady-state is reached for a viner that signs up for all available vines. Looks like it might be in the mid 30's. The vine signup number I show may be a little high for some people, upon further review there are several where I've included vines that the viner may have in hand. I can get that info from a different spreadsheet, so for this one I only wanted to determine upcoming vines - however my data entry on the signup lists isn't consistent yet. I wish I had access to Access, now that the bulk data entry is done keeping things current isn't hard, and it would be trivial to generate reports like which vines a person is signed up for etc. I can extract that now but it takes a few minutes. If somebody wants a listing I'd be interested in quality checking my results. And the big caveat: the data comes from the postings in the forums, so GIGO. There's plenty of instances where a vine isn't posted as received until it's being sent out ("got this a few days ago, it's going out today"), or it is never posted as sent out ("got this today, it'll go out tomorrow"), or you don't see anything on a vine moving until it's magically skipped over a person. Cheers MitD ********************************************* ********Will work for blank discs & postage******** *********************************************

WOW!!!!

I've definitely hit the track hard and fast as a vine slut...and I can accept this as it makes me feel happy inside. ;) :) ;D "Loose Lucy, she was sore, says I know you don't want my love no more, yeh-yeh yeh-yeh yeh-yeh yeh, singing, "Thank you, for a real good time!" "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

Sausage Party

Wow, I guess I have not been paying attention, but this is a 97% male dominated forum. What's up with that? We some females to balance this thing out. No wonder there's so much testosterone flying around in here....... "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."

Yeah...

This quite the circle-jerkin' cockfest indeed. ;) "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

lack of females

And I am sure that description of the vineyard will do little to change that, haha, fluff. Two females, iknowurider and Kim, have participated here but I believe they have been busy with other things lately.

uuhhhhh...yeah...

Damnit! We are forever doomed now...what the hell was I thinking...? "Loose Lucy is my delight, she come runnin' and we ball all night, round and round and round and round and round and round and round, don't take much to get me on the ground." Lady(ies): Please ignore my previous post...this place is very gender diverse. :) "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

Ahhhh Fluffy......

I was talking about ying and yang brother........energy, not sex. "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."

C'mon y'all - I can add a few more gals...

Pabogoniagirl1, Ami, Melinda, emily-j, and Paps. At least two of them are still actively vining. There's a little more Yin in our Yang than you might think. And this discussion certainly isn't going to boost the ratings... And then there's the most wonderful Marye... "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"

And Southerntam

also posted. And we have the coolest woman as our moderator who always posts. "Let there be songs to fill the air."

Glad to see somebody remembered pabogoniagirl and emily

Very nice viners, they're here all the time. Emily may even get to go to her first show in Chicago, if she can talk her folks into it. That's pretty cool, a whole new generation getting into their *grandparent's* music - I think she's in high school. Didn't realize all you *married* dudes paid attention to the demographics here in the vineyard. Me, I'm still looking for the "Natural Girl Singles Site" to find the mud hippie of my dreams! ********************************************* ********Will work for blank discs & postage******** *********************************************

LOL

Absolutely...me too...energy not sex...for sure. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

Northern New England vine wish list

MITD You F-ing Kill me!!!!!!!!

"Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme,and little change, the wind and rain."

Viners - Out of the closet!

Women just don’t tend to be the obsessive collectors that guys generally are. I’ll be honest - now it is vines. As a kid it was rocks and minerals, stamps, coins, insects, models, Matchbox cars (that must date me). As a teenager it became records. As an adult it has been books, journals and magazines, more books, Fillmore and Avalon postcards, records still and then CDs and now guitars and the newest is vines. OK out with it, I have admitted my obsessive collecting compulsions. What about yours? I suggest moving this topic over to Meet the Viners so we don’t clutter up this space any more. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

These are all available at shnflac.net

If nobody already has these, I'll go get them & put them out as a vine.it may take a couple of days to download them all from shnflac.net - since you can only request a re-seed once every 24 hours. 6-12-92 Albany 10-1-94 Boston 3-27-93 Albany 10-2-94 Boston 3-21-94 Richfield 10-10-94 D.C. 6-21-95 Albany 10-14-94 MSG

Northern New England Wish Vine

on DVD+R (show details to follow once the vine has a home)downloads in progress - mostly FLAC 6-12-92 Albany 10-1-94 Boston 3-27-93 Albany 10-2-94 Boston 3-21-94 Richfield 10-10-94 D.C. 6-21-95 Albany 10-14-94 MSG

Hello fellow viners and

Hello fellow viners and friendsI just want to explain my withdrawing from vining for bit. I have gotten a not so grate diagnosis from the dr. and will be having surgery in a week or so. I feel that I may not be able to be responsible with the vines in a timely manner, so I am going through and updating the lists. This is a part of my life that means the world to me, so I will be back vining asap. I will still be around posting and, most likely tracking vines, living vicariously through you all. Just wanted you all to know how much you mean to me and to thank you for a beautiful life experience. Everything should be ok, I will be back. peace and love, pk

The Ski McGee's '94 & '95 Pigskin Picks

Here are 2 good shows from 1994 and 1995. I have talked to some heads who regard this period of the band as the pits. I have no plans to start an argument about that, but I generally like 1994 and 1995. Jerry’s voice sounds great in these shows, and there are no major lyric flubs that plague other shows during this period. This 1995 show is absolutely fantastic compared to other ’95 shows I have heard. There are great just-about flawless versions of Ship of Fools and Brokedown Palace that are worth getting, if for no other reason. The 1994 show has a flawless Terrapin. Help on the Way here is one of the best ‘90s versions I have heard. It is extremely tight, and you can hear the guitar chords. Vince does not have that sloppy keyboard stuff as heard in 1991 (i.e. Boston Garden 1991). Notes: 5 Audio CDs, seamless, DSB sources, excellent quality, the 1994 show I received has some songs combined together in the same track (see below) Boston Garden, Boston, MA (Saturday, 10/1/94) NOTES: DISC 1-Help on the Way/slipknot/Franklins Tower are combined as Track 1; Me & My Uncle/Big River combined as Track 4; DISC 2-- Scarlet Begonias/Fire on the Mountain combined as Track 1 DISC 1 Help on the Way -> Slipknot! -> Franklin's Tower Walkin' Blues Althea Me & My Uncle -> Big River Tom Thumb's Blues So Many Roads Promised Land DISC 2 (Set 2 Starts) Scarlet Begonias -> Fire on the Mountain Way to go Home Saint of Circumstance -> DISC 3 Terrapin -> Drums -> Space -> The Last Time -> Stella Blue -> One More Saturday Night E: Liberty RFK Stadium, Washington, D.C. (Sunday 6/25/95) Bruce Hornsby sat in on piano DISC 1 Shakedown Street Wang Dang Doodle Jack-A-Roe Mama Tried ->* Mexicali Blues* Loose Lucy Picasso Moon Box of Rain (Set 2 starts) Rain Sampson & Delilah Ship of Fools DISC 2 Truckin' -> Rollin' & Tumblin' Samba in the Rain -> Drums -> Space -> Wharf Rat -> Not Fade Away E: Brokedown Palace * Bobby on acoustic guitar

PK

Hang tough brother. Do your best to keep it positive. Hospitals suck. I have spent a lot of time in them in the last 3 years. I will keep sending the good vibes your way. Keep posting here. Maybe you can listen to all those new shows you have not had a chance to do so yet......

PK

Our prayers are with you. See you back in the Vineland soon. "Let there be songs to fill the air."

PK - our prayers are with you

Keep your spirits up - it can only help your health - and keep us in the loop - we're sending pre-operative wellbeams your way. Let us know if there's anything you need.

Get well

pkpotter--Hope you get feeling better soon. I'll send my prayers your way. Hang in there.

pk - wishing you the best health

Directing wellbeams of health your way my man. Strength to you and your family during this time. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

PK

Sorry to hear about that. I am sure we can hook you up with some vines that might have passed by. I am praying for you and a speedy recovery!

Deadheadben

Anybody heard from him?? I am waiting to receive a vine from him and have pm'd him and received no response. Let me know what you hear.

PK we will certainly miss you !!

Try to keep your spirits up , modern medicine is really icredible , most seem to be able to get you in and out pretty quick, so hang tough brother , we all love you man !! and please keep us posted on your condition .. our best wishes are with you .. and many well beams headin your way !! Take care ..Stu ..

PK

I will also be praying for you. I hope that everything goes as well as it possibly can. Get well soon and come back to the vineyard. Peace and Love, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Northern New England Wish Vine

is here.

Pigskin Picks Vine

is here.

PK

all good thoughts headed your way. Fast healing to you.

March 28 & 31 1973 - Audio Heaven

Here is a fun little vine for the audio/techno heads out there. There are 2 versions of the 3/28/73 show - one is a stereo matrix and the other is a DTS 5.1 surround matrix. A 32 minute Dark Star in surround sound; sweet. Be sure to read the text file on the DTS show because there are some specific equipment requirements for playback (although burning the discs is just like any other audio discs)The 3/31/73 show is a Bertha Board remaster of the original SBD files; also very nice. This vine comes on one data DVD so if you are conversion impaired you might want to wait for someone to volunteer to burn the audio discs before signing up. First person on the list, PM me with an addy. Enjoy! Grateful Dead Civic Center Springfield, MA March 28, 1973 DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix Set 1: d1t01 - Cumberland Blues d1t02 - Here Comes Sunshine d1t03 - Mexicali Blues d1t04 - Wave That Flag d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t06 - Loser d1t07 - Jack Straw d1t08 - Box Of Rain d1t09 - They Love Each Other d1t10 - El Paso d1t11 - Row Jimmy d1t12 - Around And Around d2t01 - Brown Eyed Women d2t02 - You Ain't Woman Enough d2t03 - Looks Like Rain d2t04 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t05 - I Know You Rider Set 2: d2t06 - The Promised Land d2t07 - Loose Lucy d2t08 - Me And My Uncle d2t09 - Don't Ease Me In d2t10 - The Race Is On d2t11 - Stella Blue d2t12 - Big River d2t13 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo d3t01 - Weather Report Suite Prelude -> d3t02 - Dark Star -> d3t03 - Eyes Of The World -> d3t04 - Playing In The Band d3t05 - Johnny B. Goode Grateful Dead Civic Center Springfield, MA March 28, 1973 SBD + AUD Matrix 2 Source Mix (65%-SBD/35%-AUD) Set 1: d1t01 - Cumberland Blues d1t02 - Here Comes Sunshine d1t03 - Mexicali Blues d1t04 - Wave That Flag d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t06 - Loser d1t07 - Jack Straw d1t08 - Box Of Rain d1t09 - They Love Each Other d1t10 - El Paso d1t11 - Row Jimmy d1t12 - Around And Around d2t01 - Brown Eyed Women d2t02 - You Ain't Woman Enough d2t03 - Looks Like Rain d2t04 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t05 - I Know You Rider Set 2: d2t06 - The Promised Land d2t07 - Loose Lucy d2t08 - Me And My Uncle d2t09 - Don't Ease Me In d2t10 - The Race Is On d2t11 - Stella Blue d2t12 - Big River d2t13 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo d3t01 - Weather Report Suite Prelude -> d3t02 - Dark Star -> d3t03 - Eyes Of The World -> d3t04 - Playing In The Band d3t05 - Johnny B. Goode Grateful Dead 3/31/73 War Memorial Auditorium Buffalo NY Bertha Remaster of the Master Cassette/Cassette source Set 1 d1t01 - Mississippi Half-Step d1t02 - The Race Is On d1t03 - Sugaee (splice @ 1:38) d1t04 - Mexicali Blues d1t05 - Box of Rain d1t06 - Tennessee Jed d1t07 - Jack Straw d1t08 - Big Railroad Blues d1t09 - El Paso d1t10 - Row Jimmy (cut @ beginning) d1t11 - Looks Like Rain d1t12 - They Love Each Other d2t01 - Playing in the Band (splice @ 12:53) Set 2 d2t02 - Promised Land >> d2t03 - Bertha >> d2t04 - Greatest Story Ever Told d3t01 - He's Gone >> d3t02 - Truckin' > Jam >> d3t03 - Drums >> d3t04 - The Other One >> d3t05 - Jam >> d3t06 - I Know You Rider d3t07 - Sugar Magnolia Encore d3t08 - Casey Jones

sorry guys

Jerry 'n' Sting vine is here. Thanks to Oroboros for the heads up.

got this weird idea - might be brilliant - or stupid

but I'll put it out there for you to comment on. what if we started a PKPotter vine of a get well card that we all add our 2 cents to & then on a pre-determined date, we send to him. What do you think? ************************************* Prototype *************************************** Note - Our friend PKPotter is going into the hospital soon, and we wanted to get everybody to sign this card, so he has something physical in his room to remind him of us - so .... if you sign up, you will receive the card - which will have instructions inside. Add your comments & signature / whatever - and simply follow the instructions. ************************************* Prototype *************************************** and the instructions could have PK's address - so at a predetermined point, it could be just short circuited & mailed to him - otherwise, send it to the next person, just like a vine & everybody add witty comments & whatnot.

PKPotter vine

ErickatThis is a capital idea. Go ahead and get it ready to roll so there is no delay when Marye posts it. Peace Rick

i will send it out tomorrow morning

and send a pm to Marye tonight, so we get a topic

PK vine

Oh dude Erickat , that sounds like a most wonderfull idea !!! I`m definatley down with that ... I was thinking of somehow keeping him in the loop with the music too , I for one would be more than happy to burn him a copy of whichever particular vine and send it to him . as for his copy to keep .. but it would have to be somewhat organized , would`nt want him to get 3 or 4 copy`s of the same vines .. any ideas on that one ?? Peace & sunshine for our dear freind PK !! and for everyone else too ..

Great idea!!!

I'd love to be a part of it..i'd be down to make him extra copies of vines I recv and send them to him as well...right on! Lemme know the details and I'll do what I can to help a fellow music lover. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

Im down

Pk is such a nice guy. Let me know what I can do. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Me too

"Music would play and Felina would Whirl."

I Think

we all want to help PK get through this. Lets come up with something special. Maybe a "Mega-Vine" just for him. "Let there be songs to fill the air."

I'm going to get in trouble for this...

...encouraging you guys and all, but to just so there might be a little organization involved: Here is the list of vines *somebody* may have withdrawn from over the weekend (please don't get pissed at me *somebody*). *Somebody* stayed on the BCT/marye's vine, though - experienced severe withdrawal symptoms as you might imagine. A few of the vines don't currently exist, and I have the May '74, Carrier Dome, JGB Eel River, and Hampton/Harrisburg/San Rafael vines covered already. 1 ABB 9/28/04 Vine 2 April 1971 Vine 3 Autumn '72 Vine Part 1 September 4 BCT '86 Vine (AKA Marye's Vine) -- still signed up for this one 5 Carrier Dome 10-20-84 Vine -- I've done this one already 6 Dead/NRPS 1970 Vine 7 Elton John 10/1/71 Tokyo Bootleg Vine 8 Eurovine #1 - US Branch 9 Eurovine #5 U.S. Branch 10 Gruga Halle 3/28/81 Vine 11 Hampton/Harrisburg/San Rafael '84 Vine -- I've done this one already 12 Jazz Is Dead 7/22/99 Vine 13 JGB Eel River 1987 Vine -- I've done this one already 14 May 74 Vine -- I've got this one now 15 NYE '83 Vine 16 Phil Warfield Plus Eurovine 17 Rochester, NY 9/2/80 Vine 18 Rosemont Horizon 4/13,14,15/88 Vine 19 SEVA Benefit '94 Vine 20 St. Louis 8-4-82 Vine (Spoiled my darn surprise) ********************************************* *********Will work for blank discs & postage********** *********************************************

The Other Ones 1998 Vine

Heres something else a little different. If you guys like these shows let me know and I can try to add a part 2. I belive that this one will be 7 audio discs. The Other Ones June 29th, 1998 East Rutherford, NJ NJ Meadowlands Breden Byrne Arena Hot tuna Opened Rusted Root supporting act Tapers Section floor section 5, row S, seat 2 Nak 300's > unknown deck > Marantz PMD430. recorded on 1 Maxell XL-IIS 110 cassette and 1 Maxell XL-IIS 90 cassette.(MAC) MAC > SBaudigy > Adobe Audition @24bits/44.1Khz. Adobe Audition: noise removal, click/pop eliminator, 16bit. CD wave: tracking. Trader's little helper: md5, ffp, flac. Set 1: 01 GDTRFB 02 Scarlet Begonias > 03 Fire on the Mountain 04 Walkin Blues (1) 05 Looks Like Rain @ 06 Mountains of the Moon @ * 07 Masterpiece @ 08 The way it is 09 Playin' in the band > 10 Corrina > (2) 11 Drums > 12 Aiko Aiko > 13 Playin' Jam > 14 St Stephen > 15 The Eleven > (3) 16 Lovelight Encore: 17 Ripple @ *last time played 7-12-69 @ acoustic (1) first flip after Walkin' Blues. (2) second flip during Corrina. (3) third flip after The Eleven. Bob, Phil, Mickey, Bruce Hornsby, Steve Kimock, Mark Karan, John Molo, Dave Ellis recorded and transferred by Chris LaPorte, CLaPorte@upstatetapers.org The Other Ones - June 30, 1998 Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY Recording Info: SBD -> Dat -> CD Transfer Info: CD -> EAC -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 2 Disc FLAC) Converted to FLAC By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net September 2, 2005 notes: --disc 1->2 drums transition Setlist: d1t01 - Drums -> d1t02 - Mystery Train d1t03 - Minglewood Blues d1t04 - Jack-A-Roe d1t05 - Down The Road d1t06 - Tennessee Jed d1t07 - West L.A. Fadeaway -> d1t08 - Dark Star Jam -> d1t09 - Drums -> d2t01 - Drums -> d2t02 - Preacher in the Ring -> d2t03 - Dark Star -> d2t04 - Uncle John's Band -> d2t05 - Playing in the Band Reprise -> d2t06 - Throwing Stones -> d2t07 - Not Fade Away encores d2t08 - Box of Rain d2t09 - Touch of Grey The Other Ones Montage Mountain Scranton, PA July 08, 1998 Schoeps MK8 + MK21H>Schoeps KCY 250/05I active cable>Schoeps VMS02IB>Sony SBM-1>HHB PDR1000 Dat Master>Tascam DA-30MKII>Sound Devices 702>Soundforge 9 (Fades, Sample Rate Conversion)>CDWAV>FLAC Recorded By Keith Litzenberger & Jeff Travitz appox. 40ft from stage Disc 1: Hell In A Bucket Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain Mountains Of The Moon Minglewood Blues > Hound Dog Looks Like Rain Disc 2: Rainbow's Cadillac Bird Song > Drums > Space > The Other One > Wharf Rat > Touch Of Grey THE OTHER ONES Furthur Festival @ Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View, CALIFORNIA July 25 1998 ===================================== source: digital soundboard digitally remastered, edited & SHN(v3)'ed by BRUNO bruno@kabsi.at using a Mac G4 w/ Bias Peak 3.0 and various plugins ===================================== CD 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Tuning 02 U.S.Blues 03 Playing In The Band => 04 The Other One * => 05 Ramble On Rose * 06 Down The Road * 07 Jack-A-Roe 08 Friend Of The Devil 09 Iko Iko * CD 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 01 China Cat Sunflower *# => 02 I Know You Rider *# => 03 Drums *# => 04 Preacher In The Ring => 05 Banyan Tree => 06 Corrina => 07 Playin' Jam * => 08 The Other One * => 09 Wharf Rat * CD 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 01 St.Stephen * => 02 The Eleven * => 03 Turn On Your Lovelight *+ 04 One More Saturday Night => 05 Touch Of Grey

Other Ones 1998 Vine

is here.

March 28/31, 1973 Vine

is here.