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    ....my little red rooster crowed thrice... Up and at 'em kids.... Welcome to the working week.... I know it don't thrill you.... I hope it don't kill you.... Well the waitress she brought me some coffee... @Anita....avatar sent to your email
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    Article reads like he single-handedly rescued the bands legacy. I don't know what his connection to the band is other than a columnist who's tin foil hat conspiracy piece went viral, but don't pull a muscle patting yourself on the back, dude.
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    Exact scenario here dude, 14 hours of windshield time up and back to FSU for Dad's weekend...saved by channel 23 !! Unforgettable weekend as well to get smashed with your kid on Jack 'n Cokes - legally !! They do grow-up fast, don't they.... Happy, happy Monday to all - make it a great week !!!
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    Whew, back from driving 1,000 miles in less than 48 hours. Fortunately, my trusty rental Kia Optima had Channel 23. Could have gotten the red Camaro or the SUV free upgrade (w/out sat) but how else would I have heard 3 1/2 concerts and Shapiro's letter read a dozen times? Listening to the To Lay Me Down from 7-7-81 and thinking about the FTW shows gave me goose bumps. Anywho, just wanted to say it's good to be back and read the positive vibes for the additional SC shows. I give a lot of credit to the band members--I was pretty critical of them with the Chicago ticketing fiasco, but their letter was very heartfelt and classy. I think they realized they could do better and they did. Kudos, gentlemen! Nice to read all the submissions here. Tough to keep up after an absence but I'm really looking forward to meeting you all in Chitown. Peace.
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    What's the best way do you folx think? Request 2 tickets for each night? Request 3 tickets for each night? Request 4 tickets for each night? My experience is that the only ticket I was able to get for CHI was a single. Money is a consideration for me, so ideally need only ask for 2 or 3 tickets a night, but as agreed, I don't want to miss out on a chance to help a brother out, if need be. I have family here who are interested in joining me for SC, that's why the increased number. There are 3 of us so far. Who knows what cool cats I'll meet down the road who will want to join me on the bus... Tactic intuition family? I am spent from slinging tacos and then celebrating a birthday. It's quiet time in my head. Someone shake the decision makers awake! Lovelove Stella.
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    Squeaky wheel gets the grease? That first article was a real whining piece of journalism. I'm not sure what to make of this. If he admitted he's a fucking whiner and apologized for the first article, well that would be worth reading. 'Some Folks Look for Answers' -- How the Grateful Dead Came to Announce Two Additional 'Fare Thee Well' Shows Posted: 04/10/2015 4:00 pm EDT Updated: 04/10/2015 4:01 pm EDT GRATEFUL DEAD When promoter Peter Shapiro became aware of the article I wrote last month, "Ladies and Gentlemen, Not the Grateful Dead," taking him to task for the way ticket sales were handled for the Grateful Dead's "Fare Thee Well" shows, scheduled for July 3-5 at Chicago's Soldier Field, he had two choices: 1. Write it off as the "butthurt whining" of someone who didn't get tickets (which, just for the record, was not true), or 2. Defend the manner in which ticket sales were conducted, the choice of venue and the way in which these factors served to stimulate the secondary market, causing ticket prices to soar into the thousands. But Shapiro was not satisfied with either of those choices and came up with a third, very Grateful Dead-like option: He got my cell phone number from a mutual friend and called me to talk about the issues I had raised. Shapiro set the tone of the conversation by saying, "I'm a 'head' (referring to the term "Deadhead" that is commonly used among fans of the Grateful Dead), you're a 'head.' I just thought we should honor the spirit of the Grateful Dead and talk." And talk we did, for almost an hour on that occasion, and on numerous other occasions during the ensuing month, leading up to today's announcement that the band will add two shows to the final chapter in their illustrious, 50-year long, strange trip. Over the course of our almost-daily conversations, emails and texts, Peter Shapiro and I maintained a level of respect and professionalism that was truly remarkable as we navigated our way through the complicated topics at hand. As a result, tough issues were addressed, the voices of the many thousands of Deadheads who didn't get tickets to the Chicago shows were heard and a solution was crafted. There were three primary issues that I had raised in my article: the small percentage of tickets that were fulfilled through the initial mail order by Grateful Dead Ticket Sales, the choice of Chicago's Soldier Field as the venue and the selection of Trey Anastasio as the lead guitarist. I made it clear to Shapiro that my concerns about the latter two issues were relatively minor, and only relevant because they resulted in too many true Deadheads being shut out, while stimulating the secondary market, thereby raising ticket prices. One of the most fundamental principles of the Grateful Dead and their fans, expressed in biblical language, has always been this: Thou shalt not sell a ticket to a Grateful Dead concert for more than face value. Critics of my article called me out for failing to accept the way ticket sales are conducted in the present day and age, and mocked my suggestion that all the tickets should have all been sold through the mail order. Peter Shapiro was not one of those critics. Rather, Shapiro came to recognize this as a problem that needed a solution. "Your story, and others -- yours was the biggest one -- made us realize there was a problem," Shapiro commented. "I went to the Grateful Dead ticketing office and saw the (decorated mail order) envelopes; it was painful. We knew people were shut out." So, Shapiro went to work to create a solution. About two weeks after our initial conversation he mentioned to me that he was trying to convince the band to do two shows in California and asked my opinion of that idea. "What would you think about two shows in the Bay Area the weekend before (the Chicago shows)?" To which I replied, "Pete, if you pull that off and sell all of the tickets by mail order, what's happened with the Chicago shows will be quickly forgiven." After weeks of tireless work that ranged from convincing the band to negotiating agreements that enabled the use of an online mail order system, Peter Shapiro and the band have announced today that there will be two additional shows, June 27 and 28 at Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, Calif. Most importantly, some 90 percent of the tickets will be sold in true Grateful Dead style, through an innovative online mail order lottery. According to Shapiro, "We will not be using the typical on-sale method. Everybody who enters will have an equal chance to get tickets in a true lottery, and the ability of 'bots' and other online ticket gathering techniques is eliminated." The additional shows were announced on a special edition of Tales from the Golden Road, a radio show on the SiriusXM Grateful Dead Channel, at 3 p.m. EDT today, and the online mail order began immediately with that announcement at Dead50.net, and will continue through 11:59 p.m. on Tuesday. Shapiro read a letter on behalf of the band, which you can read here. In the beloved Grateful Dead song, "Playing in the Band," there is a passage that goes, "Some folks look for answers/Others look for fights." It is tempting to interpret this as extolling the virtues of looking for answers, while pointing out the folly of looking for fights. But it is often the case that we must fight for what we believe is right so that the folks who have the power to provide the answers will be moved to do so. This is known as speaking truth to power. Like so many of the messages in Grateful Dead songs, this principle applies broadly to numerous issues that we deal with in our troubled world -- global warming, our political system, GMOs, fracking, police violence -- and the list goes on and on. In this final chapter of the Grateful Dead, the band's legacy as a vehicle for social justice remains intact. Those of us who took issue with the way so many Deadheads were excluded from the Chicago shows stood up and raised our voices, and Peter Shapiro and the band were forced to look for answers. And the answers they came up with -- two additional shows in the Bay Area, where the band's roots run deepest, and a fair, affordable method of ticketing -- serve to reassure us that the spirit of the Grateful Dead is still alive and well. Follow Stewart Sallo on Twitter: www.twitter.com/StewSallo
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    Forgot to watch/listen to the band. Ugh. Rich - please share again. Is it too late to listen?
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    I liked the old Avatar better too. Couldn't find it in my threads. Would love to repost if you will resend!!
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    I am bidding on SC to trade so SD heads can go to Chicago....if I get tix, and can trade you get tix....or any needy head in our 30+.....Thanks for checking in.....liked the old avatar better kid....
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    GREAT tees. thank you
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SSIA....consider it done ... the second seating for the last supper is 7am est... first seating 5:45 am est be there or be square.... later sleepy...
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polar bear in a snowstorm. Dude has a wicked sense of humor.
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rrrrrgrrrrr has left the building... bring your appetites, and Tony is right I need a cooking show, with a little help from my friends....
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Sister got 2 tickets for sun said she taken me
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Go west young man. Let me know if your logistical needs include a hotel room. No tickets for Santa Clara for me, but truth is that was the smartest option. Clear path to Chicago now, I'm happy. I was standing in line with Mr. rrrrrgrrr
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not to get all goopy, but yeah, i'm pretty lucky with her. trying to decide whether or not to go for it.
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congrats to those who made it. too bad to those who did not. your own fault who didn't even try (me). but as others have said, a much higher percentage went to fans for these shows so whatever becomes available will probably be more reasonably priced. i still can't decide if i should/can have/make the time to go even if i could score a single. i sure hope this is the hardest decision i have to make this summer :)
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Maybe it was meant to be. Think all the great shows going on in Chicago in addition to the 3 shows. Maybe just make a long weekend out of Chicago. I'm def throwing all my marbles at Chi town. I'm hitting the Rex benefit Thursday. Moe Saturday. The Jerry tribute show with Kimock, Greene, and Melvin Seals and company on Sunday afternoon. And I'm just getting started with other plans. I'm sure SC will be fun, but Chicago will be through the roof. He travels the fastest who travels alone
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Got lucky folks. Thank you lottery system. No view on Saturday and great seats for Sunday. Can't go wrong with sections 130 and 211. Yay....... Peace out..........
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sleep is over-rated! have fun
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does cassaundra get an SD prize for post 1000?
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Who won the lottery! Brother Adam said it just right "feeling lucky and humbled. The lovelight is bright." That is exactly how it feels!! I am on the other side tonight - having gotten the regret email... I might just have to keep my SC hotel reservation and go see what I see... Don't want the back of the tshirt to be wrong!! Haha. My heart feels tender and smarts a little, but I have faith and will see you all soon! I just got home from work and have some catching up to do... gonna have a little snack and maybe watch a movie and breath first... Nightzzzzzz.
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Congrats to those who pulled tickets, including our own SD McFall's parents, and her brother and his wife....SC bound for now but wish to trade for Chitown ...total 8 tix over both nights.... If anyone knows of someone who will swap.....let me or McFall know.... Coffee is on, herbal tea on counter.... French toast with fresh raspberries for Kristine Also fresh whipped cream or maple syrup if you wish.... cmon in and settle down easy.... And let's get on with the show! @Saundra.....Polar Bear in Snow Storm was inspired by Sgt. Pupper in my yard.....
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GM SD Family !! You all have a very important SC Tix Bulletin in your e-mail in boxes. Please reply back to me via e-mail this morning. And, hey now !! Cassaundra was our 1000th post - AMAZING !! (BTW, the Dead have been in my life for 38 of my 55 years on this planet - yet I struck-out again on a legitimate way to get a ticket...go figure !!) Cheers all !!! Check mail and let me know !!! OUT !!!
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72 days until Cali, 78 days until Chicago. Ramble on.
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I'm traveling alone, so I plan to spend a lot of time sitting in theaters sipping sarsaparillas.
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Thank you sarsaparilla sippin' Totes !!! And has anyone noticed on the tix needed/wanted forums? No one swapping Chicago to SC. Everyone willing to swap newly found SC tix for precious Chicago tix. Hmmmmm????
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Hopefully that translates into more SC available for those in need. Nobody bought Chicago hoping to trade for something else. Not so w/ DJ & SC.
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One autographed Devil emerging from fire for a polar bear in a snowstorm? Mine's autographed and numbered.
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I'll be selling lithos in the lot to feed my jones.... In a blizzard my 85# grateful Pyrenees gets lost except for his eyes.... He loves the cold...
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May be a mistake on their part....I'd rather shake my bones in my yard than a theatre....more homes would pay more $$$$.... Oh well, not my chair, not my problem...that's what I say.... Will be debuting my new cooking show next week....on the SD channel... Calzones just out of the oven, both meat and veggie....get em while they're hot.... Film at 11...,
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Given this theatre announcement, my guess is that Shapiro couldn't do a bigger deal with the cable and satellite providers for an in-home PPV. I would have thought that to be not only ideal for the fan and consumer, but a revenue jackpot for the band and Peter. Maybe that's coming...who knows. I will fork out for the boxed-set DVD in blu-ray when it comes out though :-)
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If they can make it work for WWE how could it not work for this?? Sh!t...even Howard Stern made tens of millions on PPV back in the day.
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Perhaps they are going for the group experience? That is only speculation, but I would rather go to a cinema with 500 people and awesome acoustics, than sit at home eating cheesies and beer...wait...beer, no, most cinemas sell beer now...thank you VIP cinemas!
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Group experiences happen in the home as well and in a less restrictive and constrictive way.... Can't speak for your entertainment room, but my acoustics don't suck and I'm wired inside and out.... I would NEVER spend Independence Day at a movie theater... But I won't have to... And they could do both....
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My acoustics SUCK - I don't even own a TV. I sold my turntable years ago to move to Europe (amp too) As for the group experience - definitely, but I am a loner in a sea of people asking why I even listen to a band that arguably died in the late 70's...I caught a lot of flack for saying I even wanted to go to a Dead concert. People don't get it and they look at you like you are crazy when you say something, so, finding a group that would start to emulate a concert experience...that would be tough (for me at least) And you sir, were one of the very lucky ones (of course you know this) - also my 'independence day' read Canada had already passed so - meh...
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Possible that Theaters will announce advance ticket sales in order to assure sell out. Once this has been achieved then market can be reassessed to determine if home viewing is viable. Living 250 miles from the nearest theater that would even consider showing FTW, I have been down this exact same road many times.
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You are always welcome to the Buff... I learned a long time ago to let my freak flag fly At work at home everywhere Got ostracized, criticized and alienated... But you know what.... It has freed me, so now I know who my friends are...and more importantly who aren't..... I agree the Dead culture is an acquired taste and much left of center..... And a special thank you to the almighty great and powerful Wizard of...DA...geoknowwho... My path is mine and mine alone, your mileage may vary... So please don't follow in my steps...you might not like where you end up..... But goddammit, I'm a deadhead and I MISS JERRY! Can I get a witness?
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Goo goo g' joob...brother.....
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You just described where I live. Lucky to be 4 or 5 Deadheads on this side of the state. Had to enjoy the band all by myself. Amazingly one of the others is a district judge.
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no longer climbing up the Eiffel Tower and nobody f*cks with da Jezus
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T-Horse told me that if and when they offer Home PPV it's going to be by lottery too. This could be a real no hitter. If my luck is really this bad, how come I have a spam folder full of all the wealth I've inherited, sweepstakes I've won, and third world business opportunities I've been offered? If I had not procrastinated so much I would be as wealthy as Bill Gates, or even Shapiro. Then I could have acquired all the suites at both stadiums and miracle'd all the Sunshine Daydreamers with a VIP experience. My bad. Stupid Horse.
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I am taking names of people who have been shut out of all 5 shows...I have a short list of people who...well...you can guess where this is going...but I want to see who here ISN'T getting in to any shows...be honest people No evil thoughts of reselling either...actually you can't - I will HAND them to you (with a beer or two) at the show! :) Now - back to trying to make a dove tail joint...
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We can't speak of joints here..... Even dove tailed ones.. It's one of the seven dirty words.... Just policing the grounds here, that's all.... Carry on...
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Hmmm now where to put my w**d? Kidding - I was always a quitter...wait I can't even quote Beatles lyrics (Glass Onion)
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How do you know the Pyr? Seriously..... It's a magnificent beast... nobody I ever met besides my family knows what a Pyr is? I am not worthy oh queen of Grateful Pyrenees! and it's cuz I am grateful to have one in my life..... :-)
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Beautiful mountains too.....
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Sir yes sir! Thanks for checking in to the circus.... Hope you got some French toast and coffee for breakfast, followed by a little humble pie....you're all caught up.....enjoy the rest of the second act... How aboot a beer, eh? Molson, Labatt and some Brador...high test Molson....eh
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you know where the make those labatts you're drinking ?Yep, good ol Roc town from the clean running waters of the Genesee.....make mine an armadillo (just tip that ex bottle on it's side, armadillo beer!)
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Relieved myself there on many occasion.... After a few Genny Cream Ales..... Fine water.... BTW avoid the Labatt Maple brew.....woof....
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releived ourselfs, maple brew doesn't even start to sound like a good idea, now a vanilla porter is a much better brew
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Killed countless brain cells on that stuff in college in upstate NY.
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Ballast Point Brewery San Diego ..... Victory at Sea.... Cat's ass of dark beers.... If you don't have...come to Buffalo and have one....