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    Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

    Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

    (We're changing some things for 2009)

    BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

    MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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    Hello everyone . I call you all here today to talk about protecting the vines . I recently received a rather large vine , well actually a large envelope full of loose discs. When you are re-seeding or seeding a vine it would be nice to see the disc`s in some sort of protection , that way they last a good long time and get around to everyone. I also received a dvd vine that had 2 dvd`s shoved into one envelope, that`s cool . But at least insert a peice of paper or something between the disc`s so they don`t get all scrached up by each other (like these did).these disc``s do get bounced around a lot while they are in transit , and that don`t help them. the quality does deminish after so many miles, eventually they do get to where they can`t be copied at all. that has happenend to me once. So please be kind to the vines and let`s all help them get to everyone in one peice. The vines mentioned above will be taken care of well from me ,so let`s try to keep it that way . One more thing , Posting ! we`v all got to make sure that we post vine in vine out. And PM the person ahead of you to make sure they are still active, exspeicaly if we hav`nt seen that person post anything in a while. We had one recent incedent that hopefully is ,was taken care of . but it did cause quite a stir of bad vibes. Let`s try Not to let anything like that happen again. Let`s be kind to the vines ,(and each other) we are all caretakers 0f the vines let`s try to do the best we can . That is all . I hope everyone has a nice day ! ps: was that ok ? I did`nt point the finger at anyone so no one should take this to heart.. (nothing personal here)
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    I knew there was a reason I was compelled to gather these shows ( and all the shows I have)That is to share with my friends, so let’s get sharing. This will be a 2 DVD FLAC only vine due to time constrains. Enjoy your summer it only comes by once a year. Peace Rick ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) gd90-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-18.sbd.miller.95807.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-19.sbd.walker.scotton.miller.95783.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-21.sbd.walker.scotton.miller.95809.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-22.sbd.walker.scotton.miller.95870.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-23.sbd.walker.scotton.miller.95898.sbeok.flac16 ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 16, 1990 Rich Stadium - Orchard Park, NY Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 13, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Hell In A Bucket d1t03 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo d1t04 - Blow Away d1t05 - Mama Tried -> d1t06 - Mexicali Blues d1t07 - Loose Lucy d1t08 - It's All Over Now d1t09 - High Time d1t10 - Let It Grow -> d1t11 - Don't Ease Me In Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Sugar Magnolia -> d2t03 - Scarlet Begonias -> d2t04 - Man Smart, Woman Smarter d2t05 - Ship Of Fools d2t06 - Truckin' -> d2t07 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - The Wheel -> d3t03 - Gimme Some Lovin' -> d3t04 - Wharf Rat -> d3t05 - Around And Around -> d3t06 - Sunshine Daydream Encore: d3t07 - Brokedown Palace ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 18, 1990 Deer Creek Music Center - Noblesville, IN Recording Info: Set 1: SBD -> Cassette Master -> ART DIO (24bit/96k) -> Sound Forge 7 -> CD Set 2: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Set 1: CD -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC Set 2: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 14, 2008 Patch Info: (FOB) Neumann KM54 -> Dat -> CD (shnid=7358) supplies: Help On The Way (0:00 - 0:11) Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Set 1 is a remaster of shnid=26352 -- Thanks to Andy Lemieux, David Gans and David Hollister for Set 1 -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the Set 2 tape Set 1: d1t01 - Help On The Way -> d1t02 - Slipknot! -> d1t03 - Franklin's Tower d1t04 - New Minglewood Blues d1t05 - Easy To Love You d1t06 - Peggy-O d1t07 - When I Paint My Masterpiece d1t08 - Brown Eyed Women d1t09 - Cassidy d1t10 - Deal Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t03 - I Know You Rider -> d2t04 - Looks Like Rain -> d2t05 - Terrapin Station -> d2t06 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - The Other One -> d3t03 - Morning Dew Encore: d3t04 - The Weight ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 19, 1990 Deer Creek Music Center - Noblesville, IN Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 13, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes -- Most other circulating copies actually have a Hi-Fi VHS gen in them Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Jack Straw d1t03 - They Love Each Other d1t04 - Desolation Row d1t05 - Row Jimmy d1t06 - Picasso Moon d1t07 - Althea -> d1t08 - The Promised Land Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Victim Or The Crime -> d2t03 - Foolish Heart -> d2t04 - Playing In The Band -> d2t05 - China Doll -> d2t06 - Uncle John's Band -> d2t07 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - All Along The Watchtower -> d3t03 - Black Peter -> d3t04 - Not Fade Away Encore: d3t05 - U.S. Blues ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 21, 1990 World Music Theatre - Tinley Park, IL Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 14, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Touch Of Grey -> d1t03 - Greatest Story Ever Told d1t04 - Jack-A-Roe d1t05 - Walkin' Blues d1t06 - Friend Of The Devil d1t07 - Just A Little Light d1t08 - Queen Jane Approximately d1t09 - Bird Song Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Scarlet Begonias -> d2t03 - Fire On The Mountain d2t04 - Playing In The Band -> d2t05 - He's Gone -> d2t06 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - I Need A Miracle -> d3t03 - Crazy Fingers -> d3t04 - Playing Jam -> d3t05 - Dear Mr. Fantasy -> d3t06 - Playing In The Band Reprise -> d3t07 - One More Saturday Night Encore: d3t08 - The Mighty Quinn (Quinn The Eskimo) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 22, 1990 World Music Theatre - Tinley Park, IL Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 16, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Box Of Rain d1t03 - Feel Like A Stranger d1t04 - Loser d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t06 - West L.A. Fadeaway d1t07 - When I Paint My Masterpiece d1t08 - Far From Me d1t09 - Tennessee Jed d1t10 - Hell In A Bucket Set 2: d2t01 - Samson And Delilah d2t02 - Hey Pocky Way d2t03 - Estimated Prophet -> d2t04 - Eyes Of The World -> d2t05 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - The Wheel -> d3t03 - Gimme Some Lovin' -> d3t04 - Stella Blue -> d3t05 - Throwing Stones -> d3t06 - Turn On Your Lovelight Encore: d3t07 - Knockin' On Heaven's Door ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 23, 1990 World Music Theatre - Tinley Park, IL Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 17, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Cold Rain & Snow d1t03 - Picasso Moon d1t04 - Never Trust A Woman d1t05 - Stagger Lee d1t06 - Cassidy d1t07 - Truckin' -> d1t08 - Nobody's Fault But Mine Jam -> d1t09 - Smokestack Lightning Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Victim Or The Crime -> d2t03 - Foolish Heart -> d2t04 - Man Smart, Woman Smarter -> d2t05 - Terrapin Station -> d2t06 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - All Along The Watchtower -> d3t03 - Standing On The Moon -> d3t04 - Around And Around -> d3t05 - Good Lovin' Encore: d3t06 - The Weight ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-)
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    If any of our bit torrenting friends (Rick, Bob, CB etal) are looking for suggestions, spring/summer '90 would be much appreciated. Off the top of my head, and ok, looking at my list, I believe the only official releases have been Dozin' At The Knick (3/24,25,26), Terrapin Limited and a download (not sure of dates), and the only vined shows have been Nassau (3/28,29,30), Atlanta (4/1), Eugene (6/23) and Louisville (7/6). Lots of good stuff in between. Thanks to all the above mentioned gentleman and everyone else who contributes here.
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    1991-03-21 Capital Centre, Landover, MD Source: SBD -> Dat -> Cassette Master (TDK SA-X100) D Lineage: Cassette Master (Nakamichi DR-1) -> Apogee MiniMe (24bit/48k) -> Transferred by: Charlie Miller Keywords: Soundboard; Charlie Miller Disc 1 1. Tuning 2. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo 3. Mexicali Blues -> 4. Big River 5. Candyman 6. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again 7. Bird Song Disc 2 1. Tuning 2. Victim Or The Crime -> 3. Scarlet Begonias -> 4. Fire On The Mountain -> 5. Stir It Up Jam -> 6. Drums 7. Space -> Disc 3 1. Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> 2. Throwing Stones -> 3. Not Fade Away Encore: 4. Not Fade Away 5. Box Of Rain 1991-04-05 The Omni, Atlanta, GA 1. Tuning 2. Shakedown Street 3. New Minglewood Blues 4. Stagger Lee 5. Mama Tried 6. Mexicali Blues 7. Friend of the Devil 8. Queen Jane Approximately 9. deal Disc 2 1. Iko Iko 2. Saint Of Circumstance 3. Terrapin Station 4. Stir It Up Jam 5. Drums 6. Space Disc 3 1. The Other One 2. Wharf Rat 3. Throwing Stones 4. Not Fade Away 5. The Might Quinn
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    Mickey Hart at Irving Plaza Vine
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    3 From '89 DVD Vine
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    Started by Pomo1. I offer this interesting show from the Fillmore at Irving Plaza July 15, 2008 featuring the Mickey Hart Band with Steve Kimock, George Porter, Jr., Jen Durkin, Kyle Hollingsworth, Walfredo Reyes, Jr., and Sikiru Adepoju joining Mickey. disc 1/Set 1: 1. Maria Malito, Q104.3 DJ intro 2. Shakedown Street 3. Manila Farewell 4. Seven Seconds 5. Self Defense 6. Tolongo -> 7. Fountains of Wood 8. Eyes of The World -> 9. Good Lovin' disc 2/Set 2 (beg): 1. The Center 2. Strange World 3. Your House -> 4. The Other One -> 5. Arabian Wind -> 6. The Other One (reprise) -> 7. Sugaree disc 3/Set 2 (end): 8. Scarlet Begonias -> 9. Fire On The Mountain 10. encore break/band intros 11. Papa Was A Rolling Stone -> 12. Iko Iko "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    Some nice video from the epic year of 1989. This takes 9 DVDs in total, all shows complete. If you click on my "name", you'll see in the fan photo section screen shots from each show to get an idea of the quality (7/7 is better than the screen shot makes it look). 6/21/89 -- proshot vid with soundboard audio (taken from pay-per-view broadcast). 7/7/89 -- audience shot vid on tripod with Healy matrix audio. 10/9/89 -- audience shot vid on tripod with sbd audio. Here's hoping that before this vine runs its course, we'll pull the 7/7 discs once that show is officially released on DVD! I'll include the technical details with the discs.
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    Okay, I just got a PM from one of the viners who is very concerned because someone outside North America is signing up for a lot of vines, creating the situation of longer-than-usual turnaround. We created the Eurovines topic for the Euros to minimize these transit times, and we heartily encourage folks to use it. Now, I am not going to tell you guys what to do and in particular I am not going to micromanage the vines. However, it might make sense, when you're signing up for a vine, to identify yourself as living in a faraway place, if you do. So that, for example, the seeder of the vine or someone on the vine might just make an extra copy and send it to you and you can vine it on your own continent. Like I said, do what you want. But, fwiw.
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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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Submitted by stuman on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 23:40

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pain in the Butt searching through the downloadable stuff and the dick`s pics with no descriptions on them and and aaarrrgghh ,,,how many damm dick`s picks are there ,, like 100 it seems ,,... I had to try something i was`nt sure of ...I`ll rumage around I know i have something ..... I`ll get back with you .... a few projects are`nt ready yet ...
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Submitted by marye on Thu, 03/12/2009 - 11:33

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just a guess, apropos of your posts getting caught in the spam filter as this one did--while there's no accounting for the spam filter's wacky ways, looking at the post in question I think all the ... and ,,, and suchlike in large quantities are probably attracting its notice. I post this rather than PMing you because let's just say you're not the only one having this problem.
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Thu, 03/12/2009 - 16:24

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Heres a nice small vine. 3 Audio Disc's. Grateful Dead 12-27-77 Winterland Arena, San Francisco SBD>MR>D>CD>EAC>SHN patched with AUD>??>C>CD>EAC>SHN (presumed multi-gen) Disc 1 (69:57) set 1: 1. Bertha--> (5:50) 2. Good Lovin' (5:08) 3. Brown Eyed Women (5:37) 4. Cassidy (4:39) 5. Peggy-O (6:31) 6. Looks Like Rain (7:33) 7. Dire Wolf (3:49) 8. Passenger (3:41) 9. Candyman (6:47) 10. El Paso (4:44) 11. Friend Of The Devil (8:10) 12. The Music Never Stopped (7:21) Disc 2 (52:09) set 2: 1. Cold Rain & Snow (5:49) 2. Lazy Lightning--> (3:28) 3. Supplication (5:13) 4. Scarlet Begonias--> (8:24) 5. Fire On The Mountain (9:02) 6. Estimated Prophet--> (10:13) 7. He's Gone (9:58) Disc 3 (37:47) set 2 continued: 1. Truckin'--> (9:48) 2. Wharf Rat--> (12:23) 3. Around & Around (8:11) encore: 4. Samson & Delilah (7:23) Notes: --"Fucker" is muted during Wharf Rat --AUD patch in Around from 1:08 to 1:32 --AUD supplies all of Samson, which is missing from either most or all circulating SBDs --Sound Forge was used to pitch correct the patches "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Thu, 03/12/2009 - 16:34

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Now if somebody comes up with 12/30 and 12/31 we'll have the whole year end run. Thanks TNHG (54 days until showtime!) ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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To put it simply, you guys just need to hear this. 3 audio disc's. WARREN HAYNES SOLO ACOUSTIC 02.20.2009 The Old Town School Of Folk Music Chicago, IL 16 BIT FILESET Source: At485>M-Audio>Cf>CDWav>Flac By Scott Sterchele Disc 1 Early Show Beautifully Broken Before You Came Patchwork Quilt Fallen Down Glory Road Affair On 8th Avenue It Hurts Me Too I'll Be The One Broken Promised Land Wasted Time The Real Thing One Disc 2 Soulshine Encore Hallelujah Late Show Indian Sunset Sad & Deep As You Love's Open Door Wine & Blood Listen To The Lions Loser Wild Horses Old Before My Time Goin' Down Slow Change Is Gonna Come Railroad Boy 1st Time Played Disc 3 Hallelujah Blvd. Roller Derby Queen I Shall Return Stella Blue Encore In My Life Encore 2 End Of The Line-> Look On Yonder Wall-> It's My Own Fault-> Look On Yonder Wall "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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xx/xx/73 - Grateful Dead Wake of the Flood Sessions - Garcia's Rough Mixes Lineage: Unknown Studio Recording -> Sonic Solutions -> CD Transfer: CD -> EAC ->FLAC by Joe Samaritano t01 - Weather Report Suite t02 - Let it Grow t03 - China Doll -Part of the KPFA Marathon broadcast on 2/22/2003. -Thanks to David Gans for the CD. -Pledge if you can at www.kpfa.org. SHNTOOL OUTPUT: length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename 5:52.29 62161052 --- -- ----- gd73-xx-xxt01.wav 7:52.38 83350220 --- -- ----- gd73-xx-xxt02.wav 3:34.44 37853132 --- -- ----- gd73-xx-xxt03.wav 17:19.36 183364404 B (totals for 3 files) xx/xx/79 - Grateful Dead Go to Heaven Sessions - Betty Cantor's Rough Mixes Lineage: Unknown Studio Recording -> Sonic Solutions -> CD Transfer: CD -> EAC -> FLAC by Joe Samaritano t01 - Lost Sailor t02 - Saint of Circumstance t03 - Feel Like A Stranger -Part of the KPFA Marathon broadcast on 2/22/2003. -Thanks to David Gans for the CD. -Pledge if you can at www.kpfa.org. SHNTOOL OUTPUT: length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename 5:57.20 63021884 --- -- ----- gd79-xx-xxt01.wav 5:38.16 59660876 --- -- ----- gd79-xx-xxt02.wav 5:01.71 53263436 --- -- ----- gd79-xx-xxt03.wav 16:37.32 175946196 B (totals for 3 files) These two short shows on one cdr , I added a one minute break in between shows so you could break it up if you want to . This stuf is very interesting , some beutiful studio stuff here !! Pending approval .. Hope you all can enjoy this one .
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Reggae Sunsplash, Bob Marley Center - Kingston JamaicaNov 27 1982 (This is part of the Nov 26 show, but the set took place after midnight, so the 27th) lineage: audience reels>Sony PCM 501ES/SL2000 Beta->Tascam CD-RW700->CDWav->Flac. 1. Women Smarter 2. Heaven Help 3. Drums 4. Josephine 5. Thunder & Lightning 6. Book Of Rules This will be one audio disc and a dvd with flac for those who useit. This will also have a bonus disc with Mickey Hart and The Marin County Collective. These are not very good recordings...but very strange. Mickey Hart and The Marin County Collective Mickey's Barn, Novato, Ca. 1972.1973 "Area Code 415" sessions 1. Fire On The Mountain 2. Ghost Riders In The Sky 3. It Makes Me Feel Mad #1 4. You Know I Will 5. Is Anyone There 6. Night Of The Vampire 7. It Makes Me Feel Mad #2 "Fire On The Mountain" sessions 8. Fire On The Mountain 9. Speed Racer 10. Untitled 11. Fear And Loathing 12. Checker Man 13. Marshmallow Road 14. Fear 15. Ariel
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As many of you know, I dedicated a vine to my friend Eileen - consisting of some Alaska shows. Well - she has arrived fine & dandy in Anchorage and I got her to sign up as AlaskaGirl here - so if you want, you can shoot her a pm. However, she may not be able to check in for another couple of weeks because she was going to ski-in to a cabin where they might have to dig in to get to it & stay for a couple of weeks (in the out back - or whatever you call the west bumfuck of Alaska) - so she may not get around to reading anything for a while. One warning though - I don't know if she even likes the Grateful Dead (she hasn't told me yet) and I also don't know if she knows how to copy cd's - I can guarantee she knows nothing of shn or flac - so I'm waiting for her to tell me what she likes so I can send her some music. She's not real into writing - but based on the emails she's sent, I'm thinking of at least a readers digest submission ( I may have to do it myself on her behalf) - or a cool movie. One thing for sure, she's a damn free spirit and in total control of her life - and that is to be highly commended. Thank-you Eilleen for your inspiration. P.S. She always had this sign on her cube that said " The strangely alluring Eileen ******" (last name hidden for maximum security) - and it certainly is true, now isn't it?
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Submitted by Birdsong1969NJ on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 20:26

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Someone have 12/30/77? -----Here come a riddle, here come a clue If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around? The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----
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Submitted by richard on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 20:53

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I've got this, along with 12/27 and 12/29 (DP10 out takes). All I am missing is 12/31. Hey Birdsong, wanna do a trade? If so, let me know how you want the files, shn or wav. Shoot me a PM and we'll work out the details. Peace, Richard
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Submitted by dstache on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 22:14

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I just acquired 34 new shows, all in WAV format (sorry FLAC only viners). Based on past transactions with this person, a good number of the shows should be vine-worthy (see the 2 Fall 77 vines, Cream Filling, MSG 83) or at least trade-worthy. I have only listened to one show thus far, 1/10/79, a very good show that I grade as an A-/A AUD. A bunch of the shows are from '76, a handful from '77 (2 I didn't have and 2 I am hoping will be seamless and thus an upgrade), 5 from '78, a few from '79, some early 80's, and a few from the early 70's. I anticipate seeding a few vines over the next couple of months. Stay tuned
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 23:29

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I found a download for 12/30/77 but I would have to down 2 other shows to get it, and with my connection speed that will take like a month. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 23:47

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And y'all know where all the shows are, so maybe you can tell me this. I have a deep, dark secret: electronic music. Does anybody know where the old Tangerine Dream shows are hiding? Like the GOGD they have a rep for having had some of their best work taped at live shows and supposedly there are a lot of tapes out there. You guys seen any of them online? ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 00:34

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Ive never heard of them and dont see them on etree. Are there any other artists that your interested in? I can see what I can come up with. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 00:58

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My God, what are they teaching you kids in school these days? Seminal German electronic group (aren't they all) but not as monotonously droney as Kraftwerk, more spacey. They were around near the end of the psychedelic era. They've been in several movie soundtracks, you've probably heard a little snippet or two of something TD did and not realized that's who it was, they also get used as background/bumper music. Wikipedia has a pretty good article on them. Yeah, I couldn't find them on the archive sites either, but from what I've read there are a bunch of tapes out there. Jean-Michel Jarre is another good electronica type, Zoolook is a great album. I have it on a commercial tape but need to upgrade to CD. Vangelis is too melodic, his older stuff is good but he can get boring like elevator music (the Chariots of Fire soundtrack is pretty powerful though, and Bladerunner is pretty cool). I doubt there are tapes of these guys, they aren't known as great live performers I don't think. Of course, I never thought that Kitaro would be a touring act until I met one of his truck drivers at a bar in Nashville. Thanks for looking! Cheers, MarkintheDark ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by richard on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 01:12

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Hey Hippy Guy, send me a PM with your addy and I'll send you this show to include in your vine. I'll send it on DVD so you have the original lossless files. Peace, Richard
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Submitted by stuman on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 02:31

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really makin these old guys here feel old !! who or what is Tangerine dread ,,?? I got to meat one of Loretta Lyne`s truck drivers just south of Knoxville , actually got to hold her credit card while we where both waiting to pay for Feul ... oh no I`m not an old timer or nothing . he he he ...
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 03:48

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Back in the late '80's. One of her sons is Ernie (the one that didn't get drowned trying to ford a river on horseback) and Ernie had a roadhouse type bar near Loretta's "dude ranch" at Hurricane Mills, TN - my hometown is near there. Story was that Doo (Loretta's husband) bought the bar for Ernie so Ernie would have something to keep him busy while Loretta and the band were on the road; Ernie may have gotten into some trouble while on the tour. The bar became a source of trouble as well, and I think it mysteriously burned down at some point. Did quite a bit of partying with Ernie but a lot of us did. Oh, yeah, I could tell some funny stories, both first and second hand. Ernie dodged jail a time or two before I moved away in the early '90s, and I think ended up going back on tour with her in the late 90s. He may have ended up doing some time in prison, he pleaded guilty to a DUI/vehicular homicide charge - friend of Ernie's was a passenger and got killed in an accident. Never got to know the twin daughters though, unfortunately. Saw Loretta a few times around the ranch but never really met her. Everybody I know that did meet her said she was genuinely nice. End of long story. Never heard of Tangerine Dream, huh. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 03:52

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I'm guessing I'm older than stu and hippy both, and Tangerine Dream dates from the late 60s. You're the young whippersnappers! ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by gdhead77 on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 05:59

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Three Dead shows in Flac format on 1 DVD disc (please lets save some postage and cds and keep this a flac vine - if you need help converting to .wav just send me a PM). All three are excellent SBDs. Grateful Dead 2-17-1973 St. Paul Auditorium St. Paul MN Set 1 d1t01 The Promised Land d1t02 He's Gone d1t03 Looks Like Rain d1t04 Box Of Rain d1t05 Wave That Flag d1t06 Mexicali Blues d1t07 Bird Song d1t08 Beer Barrel Polka d1t09 Beat It On Down The Line d1t10 Crowd/Equipment Repair d1t11 Loose Lucy d1t12 Me And Bobby McGee d2t01 Stella Blue// d2t02 El Paso d2t03 They Love Each Other d2t04 Playing In The Band Set 2 d2t05 //Truckin' d2t06 Row Jimmy d2t07 Big River d2t08 //You Ain't Woman Enough d2t09 Here Comes Sunshine >> d2t10 China Cat Sunflower >> d2t11 I Know You Rider d3t01 Around And Around d3t02 Not Fade Away >> d3t03 Goin' Down The Road//Feeling Bad >> d3t04 Not Fade Away d3t05 One More Saturday Night d3t06 Crowd/Tuning Encore d3t07 Casey Jones Grateful Dead - March 9, 1981 Madison Square Garden - New York, NY Set 1: d1t01 - Feel Like A Stranger d1t02 - Althea -> d1t03 - C.C. Rider d1t04 - Ramble On Rose -> d1t05 - El Paso d1t06 - Deep Elem Blues d1t07 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t08 - Bird Song d1t09 - Minglewood Blues Set 2: d2t01 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t02 - I Know You Rider -> d2t03 - Samson And Delilah d2t04 - Ship Of Fools d3t01 - Estimated Prophet -> d3t02 - Uncle John's Band -> d3t03 - Drums -> d3t04 - Space -> d3t05 - The Other One -> d3t06 - Stella Blue -> d3t07 - Good Lovin' Encore: d3t08 - U.S. Blues Grateful Dead 09/04/83 Park West Ski Resort - Park City, UT CD One- Set 1: 1. Bertha > 2. Promised Land 3. Friend Of The Devil 4. Little Red Rooster 5. Tennessee Jed 6. My Brother Esau 7. Althea > 8. Hell In A Bucket 9. China Cat Sunflower> 10. I Know You Rider Disc Two- Set 2: 1. Scarlet Begonias > 2. Fire On The Mountain 3. Women Are Smarter > 4. Drums 5. Drums (continued) Disc Three- Set 2 (Cont.) 1. Space > 2. The Wheel > 3. The Other One > 4. Wharf Rat > 5. Around and Around > 6. One More Saturday Night 7. E: U.S. Blues
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Submitted by Birdsong1969NJ on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 06:30

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No conversions keeps us out of the game. -----Here come a riddle, here come a clue If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around? The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----
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Submitted by pomo1 on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 06:45

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Birdsong is right, some of the viners need audio cds. Now that I have the hang of it, I will be happy to convert these when I get the vine. You can send it out on DVD in Flac. Talking about getting old -- never heard of "Tangerine Dream!"-- I got my application to AARP over the weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Threw it in the fireplace. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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Submitted by erickat on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 09:06

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If you have enough disk space, you can just copy the data to a hard drive, convert from flac to wav, burn the cd - then recover the space on the hard drive. You only need a burner if you're planning on copying the dvd.
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Submitted by gdhead77 on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 11:22

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Hey Geoff et al... Its easy to do... As long as your computer reads a dvd data disc (and most all do) you have no worries. The program you need to download is called flac front end. You can get it at the following URL: (this is for windows) http://members.home.nl/w.speek/flac.htm Its simple to use... You just setup the output directory. Drag files to convert from either the data dvd (or hard drive if you copy over) and hit decode... A DOS like program will run and when done will say hit any key to continue... then you are done.. the wav files are on your hard drive and can be burned to CD like any other .wav file. I am happy to walk you thru the use of this tool... Its easy! Join us in the digtal age :-) It is much easier & cheaper to send 1 disc then 9 discs. PM me for more details or any other help required. marty
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Submitted by Birdsong1969NJ on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 11:38

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I have a mac and I am having a hard time with finding conversion software that works with all files flac and shn. I have tried, and prefer audio cd's. If anyone would like to follow up on this with me please PM me rather then continue this here. -----Here come a riddle, here come a clue If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around? The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----
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Submitted by Lopezz on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 12:23

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Sometimes I include a copy of Traders Little Helper on dvds with flac/shn files. TLH is great. It converts flac and shn to wav for cds, also it will convert all of these to mp3 format. And its free! Here are some links to similar programs for mac: http://www.lexial.ca/alex/applescripts/iTunes_to_flac.html http://sbooth.org/Max/ These links and re free stuff at http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html
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Submitted by Exploratory Da… on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 12:47

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I love the title. I prefer audio CDs for 2 reasons-- 1) I got helper to work but it took an hour to convert, and I have to use 2 computers due to my setup...etc...etc..........etc...etc 2) my burning program inserts gaps between tracks I can do a "disk copy" and burn a seamless disc as seamless
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Submitted by pomo1 on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 13:01

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I bought software that converts and it is one way I can contribute to the vining community that has so greatly enhanced my collection. So, you seeders continue to seed as you see fit. Trust me, everything you guys do is greatly appreciated by all of us. Some of us will convert, and even add some fruit once in a while. We are all part of a community. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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Submitted by gdhead77 on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 13:38

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So first person to sign up please be able to convert and seed the audio cds. I'm not a mac user so can't help you guys out. I just don't have the time to create the audios... Marty
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 13:50

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Are you using windows media to burn? If so you should download itunes. I used windows media for a long time (which is why some of my early vines have gaps between tracks). I hated itunes at first, but its actually easier when you get the hang of it. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 15:51

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...and mayber another "remove silence at end of tracks" option to get rid of the track breaks. I've never used WmP for anything but playing, and occasionally ripping MP3s. Don't really like using programs supplied by the content providers, just paranoid I guess. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Mon, 03/16/2009 - 23:22

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Im thinking about starting a new jgb vine but there is so much to choose from that im having a hard time deciding. Does anyone have anything that they would like to have? "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 00:38

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I mean, as long as you're asking. JGB w/chicks. Donna got a better sound with JGB. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 12:47

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Donna was with them in the late 70's. When was Maria Muldaur with them? I'll see what I can find. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by pomo1 on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 12:50

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I may be mistaken, but I think there was a time when both Donna and Muldaur were with Jerry. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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Submitted by dstache on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 13:15

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together at least in early 78
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 17:47

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Hi! Donna Jean and Maria are on Pure Jerry v.6 , Warner Theatre on 3/18/78 (31 years ago tomorrow!). Sound great, I didn't know if Maria did other shows with JGB. Thanks guys MitD ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 17:54

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Lovin' me some wiki, here's Maria's tenure as an "official" member of the band (I think shw may have appeared as a guest at some other shows) November 15, 1977 – November 3, 1978 * Jerry Garcia – guitar, vocals * John Kahn – bass * Keith Godchaux – piano * Donna Godchaux – vocals * Maria Muldaur – vocals * Buzz Buchanan – drums ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 18:24

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I'll see if I can find that one. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 18:42

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so there are very few shows on etree from between those dates and I would have a really hard time downloading the ones that are there. How does everyone feel about 8/22/76 with keith and donna? "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 18:45

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thanks trevor ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by dstache on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 13:35

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Here is a two show offering from 1978. Popular opinion is harsh on 1978. While I agree that there are some bad shows in 1978, and even more average ones, I think that all in all, and especially in comparison with any year after, it is pretty good. There are a bunch of very good to great shows (1/10, 1/11, 1/22, 1/31, 2/3, 2/5, 4/16 ...). Well, here are two more, 4/11 and 12/28. Both are high energy shows and A SBDs. I rate 4/11 as a VERY GOOD show, tied with 4/22 and second only to 4/16 as the best of the 7 April '78 shows that I have. 4/11 Highlights include (a) a mid-first-set Tennessee Jed (generally one of my LEAST favorite Garcia songs), (b) a set-ending Deal, (c) Jerry HIMSELF announcing the set break, (d) a hot Fire out of a solid Scarlet, and (e) a great Iko (again, not a favorite song of mine) out of drums. 12/28 is a GREAT show. Highlights include (a) a first-set-opening Sugaree, (b) another hot Jed, (c) a MONSTER set-closing Supplication, (d) Eyes of the World and (e) a great Truckin' out of drums (another song that isn't at the top of my list). These are WAV CDs, six in total. Look for a 1977 version of 'Stache Rides soon :)
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Submitted by pomo1 on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 13:58

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I think 78, especially early 78 is grossly underrated. Maybe I am biased since I got on the bus in April 78 (Pittsburgh), but this sounds like a great vine. Thanks Dstache. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"