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January 14, 2009 - 5:02pm

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marye

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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --
Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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February 5, 2009 - 9:08pm

#801

That Nice Hippy Guy

Joined:
July 8, 2007

Two from 76 Vine

So to make up for sending the 93 by request vine to the wrong person here’s another vine. I know it would have been just as easy to burn 3 audio discs for 8/4 but I decided to give the whole flac thing a try. This is my first shot at burning flac discs so let me know if anyone has problems. This will be 5 cds of flac files all together Grateful Dead Beacon Theater New York, NY June 15, 1976 - Tuesday Source: Betty Cantor 7" two track reel w/DBX-1 @ 7 1/2 ips> PCM501ES @ 44.055 kHz PCM501ES analog out>DBX-1 decoder> analog in PCM501ES analog out>Dat @ 48 kHz Jace Crouch’s original source WBOTB DAT via trailmix and Tim Deibert Patch Source: (shnid=#10307) Sony TC 153 Sony ECM 99A Mikes > Cassette x 2 > DAT Transfer: Panasonic SV-3700 > Cardas cable S/PDIF > Edirol UA-5 > USB > WaveLab @ [32bit float / 48kHz] Mastering: In WaveLab with Waves L3 Multimaximizer Rate Conversion with r8brain to [16bit/44.1kHz] > CD Wave > TLH > Flac Transfer and mastering by Bill Koucky November 26, 2008, Green Mountain Bros. 1st Set: 1. Promised land 2. Sugaree 3. Cassidy 4. Candyman 5. The Music Never Stopped 6. It Must Have Been The Roses 7. Looks Like Rain 8. Tennessee Jed 9. Let It Grow > 10. Might As Well Time: 84:14 2nd Set: 1. Tuning 2. Saint Stephen > 3. Not Fade Away > 4. Stella Blue 5. Samson & Delilah 6. Friend Of The Devil 7. Dancin’ In The Streets > 8. The Wheel > 9. Sugar Magnolia > 10. Scarlet Begonias > 11. Sunshine Daydream Encore: 12. Johnny B. Goode Time: 94:42 To Burn to 3 discs: Disc 1 s1t01 – s1t08 65:06 Disc 2 s1t09 – s2t06 77:25 Disc 3 s2t07 – s2t12 36:28 Grateful Dead 8/4/1976 Roosevelt Stadium Jersey City, NJ SBD>Cm>Reel>Lucid AD2496>CD>EAC>SHN (Tape Flips Patched w/(FOB) Shure Mics>Cm>Dat>CD) (parts of set 1 patched from video soundtrack) from Charlie Miller via Patrick Clifford with many thanks (my source for the show was bob wagner - cm) Disc 1 (79:25) Set 1: Sugaree (14:42) New Minglewood Blues (10:39) Row Jimmy (12:21) Big River (7:04) Loser (11:10) Looks Like Rain (7:50) They Love Each Other (8:56) The Music Never Stopped (6:39) Disc 2 (73:17) Set 1 continued: Scarlet Begonias (15:26) Set 2: Help On The Way--> (6:34) Slipknot--> (10:49) Franklin's Tower--> (12:16) Dancin' In The Streets--> (14:42) The Wheel--> (5:42) Samson & Delilah (7:45) Disc 3 (61:43) Set 2 continued: It Must Have Been The Roses (8:52) Not Fade Away--> (6:50) Drums--> (3:58) The Other One--> (16:43) Ship Of Fools (8:36) Sugar Magnolia (12:03) Johnny B. Goode (4:36)
February 5, 2009 - 1:31pm

#802

That Nice Hippy Guy

Joined:
July 8, 2007

Mark

I guess I will go ahead a reseed the jerry solo vine. Im gonna try really hard to keep that one alive for everyone, and also the St. Louis 82 vine again if it needs it. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
February 5, 2009 - 11:29am

#803

Birdsong1969NJ

Joined:
July 7, 2008

Mary-e

I think you should consider running up the GDP flag putting MITD on the payroll! I think he needs a job. "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
February 5, 2009 - 11:22am

#804

MarkintheDark

Joined:
July 29, 2008

People on both sides of missing vines get PMs...

...before a vine gets added to the list. I don't send out the nag PMs until I see a vine hasn't moved in at least a couple of weeks, and I send add'l PMs to people who don't reply. That's why my out box has a pile of PMs to Billy S. PM'd emily and W&W about the BTP vine, forgot to add it before I posted the list. Thanks pomo1. Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
February 5, 2009 - 9:59am

#805

marye

Joined:
May 26, 2007

Primal Gems '66 Vine

is here.
February 5, 2009 - 9:52am

#806

Exploratory Da…

Joined:
May 12, 2008

Thanks

Thanks for that hard, tedious work. You are unofficially deputized as the unofficial Lost Vine Detective. That list was so long, I had to do a word search to see if I was listed as a perpetrator. I figured I was not since the posse had not come-a-knockin'.
February 5, 2009 - 9:25am

#807

pomo1

Joined:
June 5, 2007

Thanks Mark

Your efforts are totally appreciated. It looks like the Boston Tea Party 1969 Vine is also MIA. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
February 5, 2009 - 9:08am

#808

MarkintheDark

Joined:
July 29, 2008

Missing Vines List

Hey now! The following is a summary of vines that have withered away, disappeared, whatever. Not a complete list by any measure. Note that I'm not pointing fingers or calling people names, just trying to identify, locate and get some of them moving again. There are a few viners that are missing along with the vines and who knows what their issues are? You may want to be careful if one of the missing viners (or somebody you aren't sure is currently active) is after you, however, and PM them before mailing a vine to them. Wait a few days for a reply and if you don't receive one then skip to the next person. Several other vines that were lost have been found and are moving again, and many other vines have been reseeded. Thanks to all the reseeders! If you see any errors or have any info please let me know. If there are vines you think should be added (especially ones that are already past me, I don't check on those much), PM me and I'll look into it. And if you want to step up for a reseed, well Jerry bless you! Cheers, MarkintheDark, self-appointed Vine Dick. ****************** Vines that have been recently (or are being) reseeded: 1) 1971 Tour Vine: not a reseed, but this vine has reappeared after a long delay. 2 DVDs, no CDs 2) GD/NRPS '70 Vine: being reseeded by richard, should be moving along in the near future 3) Valentine's Day 1988 Vine: reseeded by stuman and is moving along 4) Bits 'n' Pieces Vine: reseeded by pkpotter and Oroboros and is moving along 5) Progressive Rock Vine: reseeded by MarkintheDark and is moving along 6) Winterland October '74 Vine: in the process of being reseeded by richard 7) Merriweather Post Pavilion 7/1/85 Vine: reseeded by erickat and is moving along 8) Hollywood Palladium '71 Vine: reseeded by Birdsong1969NJ and is moving along 9) Autzen Stadium/Eugene OR Vine: reseeded by pkpotter and is moving along 10) The PERRO Tapes Vine is suspected as being lost in the mail, but the last viner that had it has offered to reseed if the vine doesn't turn up soon. 11) Augusta '84 Vine: reseeded by MarkintheDark. ****************** Missing vines summary (as of 02/03/09) 1) The Jerry Solo Acoustic '82 Vine: appears to be MIA again, last seen joneb sending it to Irie333 on 1/7. PM'd Irie333 a few times, no reply; she is now being contacted through other channels. This vine is apparently popular among the USPS, and only made it through four people since its last reseed before disappearing again. 2) Eurovine #4: MIA since chinacat503's car was broken into last summer, and it's never been reseeded. Another unfortunate loss. *02/04 update: no change. Anybody got the DVD? C'mon, it's just a single DVD, I'll send you the blank and a postage-paid envelope! (there's not enough old'n'Dead around) 3) Gruga Halle 3/28/82 Vine: MIA since 10/1, last seen On The Road Again to That Nice Hippy Guy, PM'd both on 11/22. TNHG says he sent addy a couple of times but has received nothing; OTRA hasn't responded to PMs, and I sent him another 12/6. *02/04 update: still no reply from On The Road Again. Somebody mentioned they could reseed this, but I don't recall who it was. 4) Keith's First Few Months Vine: MIA since 8/25, last seen with von dingle. No reply to PMs to vd. This was a great big vine (several DVDs full) and has never been reseeded. 02/04 update: still missing/not reseeded. 5) Autumn '72 Part 1 - Sept Vine: MIA since 9/12, last seen thomasdbll to toddsnc, PM'd both on 11/22. Todd never received it and thomasdbll hasn't responded to either PMs or emails. 02/04 update: no change, vine is still kaput. 6) St. Louis 8-4-82 Vine: That Nice Hippy Guy, bless his heart, reseeded this vine as well but it may be MIA again. Chasmo posted he received it 12/24, but no further info. PM'd chasmo end of January but haven't heard back; maybe there's still hope for this one. 7) October '72 Vine: MIA since late June '08, Estim8ed to von dingle. Figure it disappeared at von dingle like the KFFM vine. Never was reseeded. *02/04 update: no change. 8) Carrierdome 10-20-84 vine: Last seen TNHG mailed to redgrenadine on 10/14. Heard back from redgrenadine (via email, not PM since red "hasn't been frequenting dead.net much"). He never received the vine. *02/04 update: Vine is still missing, has not been reseeded as yet. There's a bunch of other vines that are inactive, maybe not lost but just reached the end of their lists and have been idle for many months. ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
February 4, 2009 - 7:55am

#809

stuman

Joined:
November 21, 2007

GD primal gems "66"

well this is my second try at seeding a nice vine , let`s see what happens .. I have cheked the vinedex and official releases ,ect .. and I did`nt see this anyplace ... this is on two cdr`s so converting not needed ...the sound quality is pretty good considering when it was taped ... Please no sign up`s yet ,, Pending Dead.nets Goddess Marye .. Primal GD GEMS - Assorted 1966 Grateful Dead SMRs>DAT>3x>Delta DiO 2496>Soundforge 7.0>WAV>CD Wave Editor>FLAC CD #1 Possibly 2/12/66 - 7"reel 1/2 track at 7.5 IPS: Viola Lee Blues Don't Ease Me In Tastebud "Longshoreman's Hall 1st Night" - 7" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS: Beat It On Down The Line Schoolgirl>You Don't Love Me>Schoolgirl (original reel cuts) Unlabeled Reel: Pigpen Raps Billy, Bobby, and Pigpen> New Orleans (sort of an attempt) Twist and Shout CD #2 "Longshoreman's Hall 3rd Night" - 10" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS: It's A Sin Viola Lee Blues Midnight Hour Beat It On Down The Line Blues Jam (with Jorma and Jack) Note: reel runs out before the end Pauley Ballroom #2 (no date) - 10" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS: You Don't Have To Ask - Phil Talks About The Move To L.A. Viola Lee Blues (some static at start of song) I Know You Rider Midnight Hour (plug pulled) There are also a couple of short digi noises during the blues jam. The dates and locations are as marked on the boxes of master reels. Let's leave it to the Deadhead historians to figure it all out for accuracy. A GEMS production -+-+- www.shnflac.net -+-+- December 2006 ps.. I will begin working on some CSNY from the Lopez`s LBOE vine ..next week ..
February 2, 2009 - 5:12pm

#810

pkpotter

Joined:
June 7, 2007

Get better soon Marye, I

Get better soon Marye, I feel for you, having been dealing with it and a numb knee and leg since mid december. Take care, many people here rely upon your supreme guidance. pk

Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

it`s hard to seed something new

pain in the Butt searching through the downloadable stuff and the dick`s pics with no descriptions on them and and aaarrrgghh ,,,how many damm dick`s picks are there ,, like 100 it seems ,,... I had to try something i was`nt sure of ...I`ll rumage around I know i have something ..... I`ll get back with you .... a few projects are`nt ready yet ...

stuman

just a guess, apropos of your posts getting caught in the spam filter as this one did--while there's no accounting for the spam filter's wacky ways, looking at the post in question I think all the ... and ,,, and suchlike in large quantities are probably attracting its notice. I post this rather than PMing you because let's just say you're not the only one having this problem.

Early '69 Part 2 vine

is here.

Winterland 12/27/77 Vine

Heres a nice small vine. 3 Audio Disc's. Grateful Dead 12-27-77 Winterland Arena, San Francisco SBD>MR>D>CD>EAC>SHN patched with AUD>??>C>CD>EAC>SHN (presumed multi-gen) Disc 1 (69:57) set 1: 1. Bertha--> (5:50) 2. Good Lovin' (5:08) 3. Brown Eyed Women (5:37) 4. Cassidy (4:39) 5. Peggy-O (6:31) 6. Looks Like Rain (7:33) 7. Dire Wolf (3:49) 8. Passenger (3:41) 9. Candyman (6:47) 10. El Paso (4:44) 11. Friend Of The Devil (8:10) 12. The Music Never Stopped (7:21) Disc 2 (52:09) set 2: 1. Cold Rain & Snow (5:49) 2. Lazy Lightning--> (3:28) 3. Supplication (5:13) 4. Scarlet Begonias--> (8:24) 5. Fire On The Mountain (9:02) 6. Estimated Prophet--> (10:13) 7. He's Gone (9:58) Disc 3 (37:47) set 2 continued: 1. Truckin'--> (9:48) 2. Wharf Rat--> (12:23) 3. Around & Around (8:11) encore: 4. Samson & Delilah (7:23) Notes: --"Fucker" is muted during Wharf Rat --AUD patch in Around from 1:08 to 1:32 --AUD supplies all of Samson, which is missing from either most or all circulating SBDs --Sound Forge was used to pitch correct the patches "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Cool!

Now if somebody comes up with 12/30 and 12/31 we'll have the whole year end run. Thanks TNHG (54 days until showtime!) ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************

Warren Haynes Solo Acoustic 2/20/09 Vine

To put it simply, you guys just need to hear this. 3 audio disc's. WARREN HAYNES SOLO ACOUSTIC 02.20.2009 The Old Town School Of Folk Music Chicago, IL 16 BIT FILESET Source: At485>M-Audio>Cf>CDWav>Flac By Scott Sterchele Disc 1 Early Show Beautifully Broken Before You Came Patchwork Quilt Fallen Down Glory Road Affair On 8th Avenue It Hurts Me Too I'll Be The One Broken Promised Land Wasted Time The Real Thing One Disc 2 Soulshine Encore Hallelujah Late Show Indian Sunset Sad & Deep As You Love's Open Door Wine & Blood Listen To The Lions Loser Wild Horses Old Before My Time Goin' Down Slow Change Is Gonna Come Railroad Boy 1st Time Played Disc 3 Hallelujah Blvd. Roller Derby Queen I Shall Return Stella Blue Encore In My Life Encore 2 End Of The Line-> Look On Yonder Wall-> It's My Own Fault-> Look On Yonder Wall "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

KPFA Marathon 2-22-03

xx/xx/73 - Grateful Dead Wake of the Flood Sessions - Garcia's Rough Mixes Lineage: Unknown Studio Recording -> Sonic Solutions -> CD Transfer: CD -> EAC ->FLAC by Joe Samaritano t01 - Weather Report Suite t02 - Let it Grow t03 - China Doll -Part of the KPFA Marathon broadcast on 2/22/2003. -Thanks to David Gans for the CD. -Pledge if you can at www.kpfa.org. SHNTOOL OUTPUT: length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename 5:52.29 62161052 --- -- ----- gd73-xx-xxt01.wav 7:52.38 83350220 --- -- ----- gd73-xx-xxt02.wav 3:34.44 37853132 --- -- ----- gd73-xx-xxt03.wav 17:19.36 183364404 B (totals for 3 files) xx/xx/79 - Grateful Dead Go to Heaven Sessions - Betty Cantor's Rough Mixes Lineage: Unknown Studio Recording -> Sonic Solutions -> CD Transfer: CD -> EAC -> FLAC by Joe Samaritano t01 - Lost Sailor t02 - Saint of Circumstance t03 - Feel Like A Stranger -Part of the KPFA Marathon broadcast on 2/22/2003. -Thanks to David Gans for the CD. -Pledge if you can at www.kpfa.org. SHNTOOL OUTPUT: length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename 5:57.20 63021884 --- -- ----- gd79-xx-xxt01.wav 5:38.16 59660876 --- -- ----- gd79-xx-xxt02.wav 5:01.71 53263436 --- -- ----- gd79-xx-xxt03.wav 16:37.32 175946196 B (totals for 3 files) These two short shows on one cdr , I added a one minute break in between shows so you could break it up if you want to . This stuf is very interesting , some beutiful studio stuff here !! Pending approval .. Hope you all can enjoy this one .

Bobby & the Midnites Vine

Reggae Sunsplash, Bob Marley Center - Kingston JamaicaNov 27 1982 (This is part of the Nov 26 show, but the set took place after midnight, so the 27th) lineage: audience reels>Sony PCM 501ES/SL2000 Beta->Tascam CD-RW700->CDWav->Flac. 1. Women Smarter 2. Heaven Help 3. Drums 4. Josephine 5. Thunder & Lightning 6. Book Of Rules This will be one audio disc and a dvd with flac for those who useit. This will also have a bonus disc with Mickey Hart and The Marin County Collective. These are not very good recordings...but very strange. Mickey Hart and The Marin County Collective Mickey's Barn, Novato, Ca. 1972.1973 "Area Code 415" sessions 1. Fire On The Mountain 2. Ghost Riders In The Sky 3. It Makes Me Feel Mad #1 4. You Know I Will 5. Is Anyone There 6. Night Of The Vampire 7. It Makes Me Feel Mad #2 "Fire On The Mountain" sessions 8. Fire On The Mountain 9. Speed Racer 10. Untitled 11. Fear And Loathing 12. Checker Man 13. Marshmallow Road 14. Fear 15. Ariel

posting this here, for maximum visibility

As many of you know, I dedicated a vine to my friend Eileen - consisting of some Alaska shows. Well - she has arrived fine & dandy in Anchorage and I got her to sign up as AlaskaGirl here - so if you want, you can shoot her a pm. However, she may not be able to check in for another couple of weeks because she was going to ski-in to a cabin where they might have to dig in to get to it & stay for a couple of weeks (in the out back - or whatever you call the west bumfuck of Alaska) - so she may not get around to reading anything for a while. One warning though - I don't know if she even likes the Grateful Dead (she hasn't told me yet) and I also don't know if she knows how to copy cd's - I can guarantee she knows nothing of shn or flac - so I'm waiting for her to tell me what she likes so I can send her some music. She's not real into writing - but based on the emails she's sent, I'm thinking of at least a readers digest submission ( I may have to do it myself on her behalf) - or a cool movie. One thing for sure, she's a damn free spirit and in total control of her life - and that is to be highly commended. Thank-you Eilleen for your inspiration. P.S. She always had this sign on her cube that said " The strangely alluring Eileen ******" (last name hidden for maximum security) - and it certainly is true, now isn't it?

I've got 12/31/77

Someone have 12/30/77? -----Here come a riddle, here come a clue If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around? The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----

12-30-77

I've got this, along with 12/27 and 12/29 (DP10 out takes). All I am missing is 12/31. Hey Birdsong, wanna do a trade? If so, let me know how you want the files, shn or wav. Shoot me a PM and we'll work out the details. Peace, Richard

new cache for 'stache

I just acquired 34 new shows, all in WAV format (sorry FLAC only viners). Based on past transactions with this person, a good number of the shows should be vine-worthy (see the 2 Fall 77 vines, Cream Filling, MSG 83) or at least trade-worthy. I have only listened to one show thus far, 1/10/79, a very good show that I grade as an A-/A AUD. A bunch of the shows are from '76, a handful from '77 (2 I didn't have and 2 I am hoping will be seamless and thus an upgrade), 5 from '78, a few from '79, some early 80's, and a few from the early 70's. I anticipate seeding a few vines over the next couple of months. Stay tuned

77

I found a download for 12/30/77 but I would have to down 2 other shows to get it, and with my connection speed that will take like a month. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

I love to watch you guys when you go on the attack!

And y'all know where all the shows are, so maybe you can tell me this. I have a deep, dark secret: electronic music. Does anybody know where the old Tangerine Dream shows are hiding? Like the GOGD they have a rep for having had some of their best work taped at live shows and supposedly there are a lot of tapes out there. You guys seen any of them online? ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************

Mark

Ive never heard of them and dont see them on etree. Are there any other artists that your interested in? I can see what I can come up with. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

You've never heard of Tangerine Dream?

My God, what are they teaching you kids in school these days? Seminal German electronic group (aren't they all) but not as monotonously droney as Kraftwerk, more spacey. They were around near the end of the psychedelic era. They've been in several movie soundtracks, you've probably heard a little snippet or two of something TD did and not realized that's who it was, they also get used as background/bumper music. Wikipedia has a pretty good article on them. Yeah, I couldn't find them on the archive sites either, but from what I've read there are a bunch of tapes out there. Jean-Michel Jarre is another good electronica type, Zoolook is a great album. I have it on a commercial tape but need to upgrade to CD. Vangelis is too melodic, his older stuff is good but he can get boring like elevator music (the Chariots of Fire soundtrack is pretty powerful though, and Bladerunner is pretty cool). I doubt there are tapes of these guys, they aren't known as great live performers I don't think. Of course, I never thought that Kitaro would be a touring act until I met one of his truck drivers at a bar in Nashville. Thanks for looking! Cheers, MarkintheDark ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************

12-30-77

Hey Hippy Guy, send me a PM with your addy and I'll send you this show to include in your vine. I'll send it on DVD so you have the original lossless files. Peace, Richard

young kids

really makin these old guys here feel old !! who or what is Tangerine dread ,,?? I got to meat one of Loretta Lyne`s truck drivers just south of Knoxville , actually got to hold her credit card while we where both waiting to pay for Feul ... oh no I`m not an old timer or nothing . he he he ...

I used to party with a second generation Lynn

Back in the late '80's. One of her sons is Ernie (the one that didn't get drowned trying to ford a river on horseback) and Ernie had a roadhouse type bar near Loretta's "dude ranch" at Hurricane Mills, TN - my hometown is near there. Story was that Doo (Loretta's husband) bought the bar for Ernie so Ernie would have something to keep him busy while Loretta and the band were on the road; Ernie may have gotten into some trouble while on the tour. The bar became a source of trouble as well, and I think it mysteriously burned down at some point. Did quite a bit of partying with Ernie but a lot of us did. Oh, yeah, I could tell some funny stories, both first and second hand. Ernie dodged jail a time or two before I moved away in the early '90s, and I think ended up going back on tour with her in the late 90s. He may have ended up doing some time in prison, he pleaded guilty to a DUI/vehicular homicide charge - friend of Ernie's was a passenger and got killed in an accident. Never got to know the twin daughters though, unfortunately. Saw Loretta a few times around the ranch but never really met her. Everybody I know that did meet her said she was genuinely nice. End of long story. Never heard of Tangerine Dream, huh. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************

Young kids hell

I'm guessing I'm older than stu and hippy both, and Tangerine Dream dates from the late 60s. You're the young whippersnappers! ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************

Flac Me, Flac You Vine

Three Dead shows in Flac format on 1 DVD disc (please lets save some postage and cds and keep this a flac vine - if you need help converting to .wav just send me a PM). All three are excellent SBDs. Grateful Dead 2-17-1973 St. Paul Auditorium St. Paul MN Set 1 d1t01 The Promised Land d1t02 He's Gone d1t03 Looks Like Rain d1t04 Box Of Rain d1t05 Wave That Flag d1t06 Mexicali Blues d1t07 Bird Song d1t08 Beer Barrel Polka d1t09 Beat It On Down The Line d1t10 Crowd/Equipment Repair d1t11 Loose Lucy d1t12 Me And Bobby McGee d2t01 Stella Blue// d2t02 El Paso d2t03 They Love Each Other d2t04 Playing In The Band Set 2 d2t05 //Truckin' d2t06 Row Jimmy d2t07 Big River d2t08 //You Ain't Woman Enough d2t09 Here Comes Sunshine >> d2t10 China Cat Sunflower >> d2t11 I Know You Rider d3t01 Around And Around d3t02 Not Fade Away >> d3t03 Goin' Down The Road//Feeling Bad >> d3t04 Not Fade Away d3t05 One More Saturday Night d3t06 Crowd/Tuning Encore d3t07 Casey Jones Grateful Dead - March 9, 1981 Madison Square Garden - New York, NY Set 1: d1t01 - Feel Like A Stranger d1t02 - Althea -> d1t03 - C.C. Rider d1t04 - Ramble On Rose -> d1t05 - El Paso d1t06 - Deep Elem Blues d1t07 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t08 - Bird Song d1t09 - Minglewood Blues Set 2: d2t01 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t02 - I Know You Rider -> d2t03 - Samson And Delilah d2t04 - Ship Of Fools d3t01 - Estimated Prophet -> d3t02 - Uncle John's Band -> d3t03 - Drums -> d3t04 - Space -> d3t05 - The Other One -> d3t06 - Stella Blue -> d3t07 - Good Lovin' Encore: d3t08 - U.S. Blues Grateful Dead 09/04/83 Park West Ski Resort - Park City, UT CD One- Set 1: 1. Bertha > 2. Promised Land 3. Friend Of The Devil 4. Little Red Rooster 5. Tennessee Jed 6. My Brother Esau 7. Althea > 8. Hell In A Bucket 9. China Cat Sunflower> 10. I Know You Rider Disc Two- Set 2: 1. Scarlet Begonias > 2. Fire On The Mountain 3. Women Are Smarter > 4. Drums 5. Drums (continued) Disc Three- Set 2 (Cont.) 1. Space > 2. The Wheel > 3. The Other One > 4. Wharf Rat > 5. Around and Around > 6. One More Saturday Night 7. E: U.S. Blues

For those who don't flac or have a DVD burner...

No conversions keeps us out of the game. -----Here come a riddle, here come a clue If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around? The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----

Hey Matt

Birdsong is right, some of the viners need audio cds. Now that I have the hang of it, I will be happy to convert these when I get the vine. You can send it out on DVD in Flac. Talking about getting old -- never heard of "Tangerine Dream!"-- I got my application to AARP over the weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Threw it in the fireplace. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"

You don't need a dvd burner

If you have enough disk space, you can just copy the data to a hard drive, convert from flac to wav, burn the cd - then recover the space on the hard drive. You only need a burner if you're planning on copying the dvd.

Converting Instructions

Hey Geoff et al... Its easy to do... As long as your computer reads a dvd data disc (and most all do) you have no worries. The program you need to download is called flac front end. You can get it at the following URL: (this is for windows) http://members.home.nl/w.speek/flac.htm Its simple to use... You just setup the output directory. Drag files to convert from either the data dvd (or hard drive if you copy over) and hit decode... A DOS like program will run and when done will say hit any key to continue... then you are done.. the wav files are on your hard drive and can be burned to CD like any other .wav file. I am happy to walk you thru the use of this tool... Its easy! Join us in the digtal age :-) It is much easier & cheaper to send 1 disc then 9 discs. PM me for more details or any other help required. marty

I really don't want to turn this into me but,

I have a mac and I am having a hard time with finding conversion software that works with all files flac and shn. I have tried, and prefer audio cd's. If anyone would like to follow up on this with me please PM me rather then continue this here. -----Here come a riddle, here come a clue If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around? The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----

Traders Little Helper

Sometimes I include a copy of Traders Little Helper on dvds with flac/shn files. TLH is great. It converts flac and shn to wav for cds, also it will convert all of these to mp3 format. And its free! Here are some links to similar programs for mac: http://www.lexial.ca/alex/applescripts/iTunes_to_flac.html http://sbooth.org/Max/ These links and re free stuff at http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html

Flac Me, Flac You Vine

I love the title. I prefer audio CDs for 2 reasons-- 1) I got helper to work but it took an hour to convert, and I have to use 2 computers due to my setup...etc...etc..........etc...etc 2) my burning program inserts gaps between tracks I can do a "disk copy" and burn a seamless disc as seamless

I don't mind converting when I get the chance.

I bought software that converts and it is one way I can contribute to the vining community that has so greatly enhanced my collection. So, you seeders continue to seed as you see fit. Trust me, everything you guys do is greatly appreciated by all of us. Some of us will convert, and even add some fruit once in a while. We are all part of a community. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"

I hear ya all

So first person to sign up please be able to convert and seed the audio cds. I'm not a mac user so can't help you guys out. I just don't have the time to create the audios... Marty

one last resource for you mac users

I have not tested it but looks like this is the same as flac front-end for the mac... http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Audio/MacFLAC.shtml

Exploratory Dat.

Are you using windows media to burn? If so you should download itunes. I used windows media for a long time (which is why some of my early vines have gaps between tracks). I hated itunes at first, but its actually easier when you get the hang of it. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Most burning programs have a "disc at once" option...

...and mayber another "remove silence at end of tracks" option to get rid of the track breaks. I've never used WmP for anything but playing, and occasionally ripping MP3s. Don't really like using programs supplied by the content providers, just paranoid I guess. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************

jgb vine requests

Im thinking about starting a new jgb vine but there is so much to choose from that im having a hard time deciding. Does anyone have anything that they would like to have? "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Donna shows, Maria Muldaur too

I mean, as long as you're asking. JGB w/chicks. Donna got a better sound with JGB. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************

jgb

Donna was with them in the late 70's. When was Maria Muldaur with them? I'll see what I can find. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Trevor

I may be mistaken, but I think there was a time when both Donna and Muldaur were with Jerry. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"

Maria + Donna

together at least in early 78

They are both on the Pure Jerry volume 6

Hi! Donna Jean and Maria are on Pure Jerry v.6 , Warner Theatre on 3/18/78 (31 years ago tomorrow!). Sound great, I didn't know if Maria did other shows with JGB. Thanks guys MitD ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************

Wikipedia kicks ass

Lovin' me some wiki, here's Maria's tenure as an "official" member of the band (I think shw may have appeared as a guest at some other shows) November 15, 1977 – November 3, 1978 * Jerry Garcia – guitar, vocals * John Kahn – bass * Keith Godchaux – piano * Donna Godchaux – vocals * Maria Muldaur – vocals * Buzz Buchanan – drums ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************

jgb

I'll see if I can find that one. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

ok

so there are very few shows on etree from between those dates and I would have a really hard time downloading the ones that are there. How does everyone feel about 8/22/76 with keith and donna? "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

's all good!

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'Stache Rides 1978

Here is a two show offering from 1978. Popular opinion is harsh on 1978. While I agree that there are some bad shows in 1978, and even more average ones, I think that all in all, and especially in comparison with any year after, it is pretty good. There are a bunch of very good to great shows (1/10, 1/11, 1/22, 1/31, 2/3, 2/5, 4/16 ...). Well, here are two more, 4/11 and 12/28. Both are high energy shows and A SBDs. I rate 4/11 as a VERY GOOD show, tied with 4/22 and second only to 4/16 as the best of the 7 April '78 shows that I have. 4/11 Highlights include (a) a mid-first-set Tennessee Jed (generally one of my LEAST favorite Garcia songs), (b) a set-ending Deal, (c) Jerry HIMSELF announcing the set break, (d) a hot Fire out of a solid Scarlet, and (e) a great Iko (again, not a favorite song of mine) out of drums. 12/28 is a GREAT show. Highlights include (a) a first-set-opening Sugaree, (b) another hot Jed, (c) a MONSTER set-closing Supplication, (d) Eyes of the World and (e) a great Truckin' out of drums (another song that isn't at the top of my list). These are WAV CDs, six in total. Look for a 1977 version of 'Stache Rides soon :)

Stache Rides 78

I think 78, especially early 78 is grossly underrated. Maybe I am biased since I got on the bus in April 78 (Pittsburgh), but this sounds like a great vine. Thanks Dstache. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"