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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --
Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works
(We're changing some things for 2009)
BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are
it`s hard to seed something new
pain in the Butt searching through the downloadable stuff and the dick`s pics with no descriptions on them and and aaarrrgghh ,,,how many damm dick`s picks are there ,, like 100 it seems ,,... I had to try something i was`nt sure of ...I`ll rumage around I know i have something ..... I`ll get back with you .... a few projects are`nt ready yet ...
stuman
just a guess, apropos of your posts getting caught in the spam filter as this one did--while there's no accounting for the spam filter's wacky ways, looking at the post in question I think all the ... and ,,, and suchlike in large quantities are probably attracting its notice.
I post this rather than PMing you because let's just say you're not the only one having this problem.
Winterland 12/27/77 Vine
Heres a nice small vine. 3 Audio Disc's.
Grateful Dead
12-27-77
Winterland Arena,
San Francisco
SBD>MR>D>CD>EAC>SHN
patched with AUD>??>C>CD>EAC>SHN (presumed multi-gen)
Disc 1 (69:57)
set 1:
1. Bertha--> (5:50)
2. Good Lovin' (5:08)
3. Brown Eyed Women (5:37)
4. Cassidy (4:39)
5. Peggy-O (6:31)
6. Looks Like Rain (7:33)
7. Dire Wolf (3:49)
8. Passenger (3:41)
9. Candyman (6:47)
10. El Paso (4:44)
11. Friend Of The Devil (8:10)
12. The Music Never Stopped (7:21)
Disc 2 (52:09)
set 2:
1. Cold Rain & Snow (5:49)
2. Lazy Lightning--> (3:28)
3. Supplication (5:13)
4. Scarlet Begonias--> (8:24)
5. Fire On The Mountain (9:02)
6. Estimated Prophet--> (10:13)
7. He's Gone (9:58)
Disc 3 (37:47)
set 2 continued:
1. Truckin'--> (9:48)
2. Wharf Rat--> (12:23)
3. Around & Around (8:11)
encore:
4. Samson & Delilah (7:23)
Notes:
--"Fucker" is muted during Wharf Rat
--AUD patch in Around from 1:08 to 1:32
--AUD supplies all of Samson, which is missing from either most or all circulating SBDs
--Sound Forge was used to pitch correct the patches
"You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
Warren Haynes Solo Acoustic 2/20/09 Vine
To put it simply, you guys just need to hear this. 3 audio disc's.
WARREN HAYNES SOLO ACOUSTIC
02.20.2009 The Old Town School Of Folk Music Chicago, IL
16 BIT FILESET
Source: At485>M-Audio>Cf>CDWav>Flac
By Scott Sterchele
Disc 1
Early Show
Beautifully Broken
Before You Came
Patchwork Quilt
Fallen Down
Glory Road
Affair On 8th Avenue
It Hurts Me Too
I'll Be The One
Broken Promised Land
Wasted Time
The Real Thing
One
Disc 2
Soulshine
Encore
Hallelujah
Late Show
Indian Sunset
Sad & Deep As You
Love's Open Door
Wine & Blood
Listen To The Lions
Loser
Wild Horses
Old Before My Time
Goin' Down Slow
Change Is Gonna Come
Railroad Boy 1st Time Played
Disc 3
Hallelujah Blvd.
Roller Derby Queen
I Shall Return
Stella Blue
Encore
In My Life
Encore 2
End Of The Line->
Look On Yonder Wall->
It's My Own Fault->
Look On Yonder Wall
"You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
KPFA Marathon 2-22-03
xx/xx/73 - Grateful Dead
Wake of the Flood Sessions - Garcia's Rough Mixes
Lineage:
Unknown Studio Recording -> Sonic Solutions -> CD
Transfer:
CD -> EAC ->FLAC by Joe Samaritano
t01 - Weather Report Suite
t02 - Let it Grow
t03 - China Doll
-Part of the KPFA Marathon broadcast on 2/22/2003.
-Thanks to David Gans for the CD.
-Pledge if you can at www.kpfa.org.
SHNTOOL OUTPUT:
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename
5:52.29 62161052 --- -- ----- gd73-xx-xxt01.wav
7:52.38 83350220 --- -- ----- gd73-xx-xxt02.wav
3:34.44 37853132 --- -- ----- gd73-xx-xxt03.wav
17:19.36 183364404 B (totals for 3 files)
xx/xx/79 - Grateful Dead
Go to Heaven Sessions - Betty Cantor's Rough Mixes
Lineage:
Unknown Studio Recording -> Sonic Solutions -> CD
Transfer:
CD -> EAC -> FLAC by Joe Samaritano
t01 - Lost Sailor
t02 - Saint of Circumstance
t03 - Feel Like A Stranger
-Part of the KPFA Marathon broadcast on 2/22/2003.
-Thanks to David Gans for the CD.
-Pledge if you can at www.kpfa.org.
SHNTOOL OUTPUT:
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename
5:57.20 63021884 --- -- ----- gd79-xx-xxt01.wav
5:38.16 59660876 --- -- ----- gd79-xx-xxt02.wav
5:01.71 53263436 --- -- ----- gd79-xx-xxt03.wav
16:37.32 175946196 B (totals for 3 files)
These two short shows on one cdr , I added a one minute break in between shows so you could break it up if you want to . This stuf is very interesting , some beutiful studio stuff here !!
Pending approval .. Hope you all can enjoy this one .
Bobby & the Midnites Vine
Reggae Sunsplash, Bob Marley Center - Kingston JamaicaNov 27 1982 (This is part of the Nov 26 show, but the set took place after midnight, so the 27th) lineage: audience reels>Sony PCM 501ES/SL2000 Beta->Tascam CD-RW700->CDWav->Flac.
1. Women Smarter
2. Heaven Help
3. Drums
4. Josephine
5. Thunder & Lightning
6. Book Of Rules
This will be one audio disc and a dvd with flac for those who useit. This will also have a bonus disc with Mickey Hart and The Marin County Collective. These are not very good recordings...but very strange.
Mickey Hart and The Marin County Collective
Mickey's Barn, Novato, Ca. 1972.1973
"Area Code 415" sessions
1. Fire On The Mountain
2. Ghost Riders In The Sky
3. It Makes Me Feel Mad #1
4. You Know I Will
5. Is Anyone There
6. Night Of The Vampire
7. It Makes Me Feel Mad #2
"Fire On The Mountain" sessions
8. Fire On The Mountain
9. Speed Racer
10. Untitled
11. Fear And Loathing
12. Checker Man
13. Marshmallow Road
14. Fear
15. Ariel
posting this here, for maximum visibility
As many of you know, I dedicated a vine to my friend Eileen - consisting of some Alaska shows. Well - she has arrived fine & dandy in Anchorage and I got her to sign up as AlaskaGirl here - so if you want, you can shoot her a pm. However, she may not be able to check in for another couple of weeks because she was going to ski-in to a cabin where they might have to dig in to get to it & stay for a couple of weeks (in the out back - or whatever you call the west bumfuck of Alaska) - so she may not get around to reading anything for a while.
One warning though - I don't know if she even likes the Grateful Dead (she hasn't told me yet) and I also don't know if she knows how to copy cd's - I can guarantee she knows nothing of shn or flac - so I'm waiting for her to tell me what she likes so I can send her some music. She's not real into writing - but based on the emails she's sent, I'm thinking of at least a readers digest submission ( I may have to do it myself on her behalf) - or a cool movie. One thing for sure, she's a damn free spirit and in total control of her life - and that is to be highly commended. Thank-you Eilleen for your inspiration.
P.S. She always had this sign on her cube that said " The strangely alluring Eileen ******" (last name hidden for maximum security) - and it certainly is true, now isn't it?
I've got 12/31/77
Someone have 12/30/77?
-----Here come a riddle, here come a clue
If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say
Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around?
The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----
new cache for 'stache
I just acquired 34 new shows, all in WAV format (sorry FLAC only viners). Based on past transactions with this person, a good number of the shows should be vine-worthy (see the 2 Fall 77 vines, Cream Filling, MSG 83) or at least trade-worthy. I have only listened to one show thus far, 1/10/79, a very good show that I grade as an A-/A AUD. A bunch of the shows are from '76, a handful from '77 (2 I didn't have and 2 I am hoping will be seamless and thus an upgrade), 5 from '78, a few from '79, some early 80's, and a few from the early 70's. I anticipate seeding a few vines over the next couple of months. Stay tuned
I love to watch you guys when you go on the attack!
And y'all know where all the shows are, so maybe you can tell me this. I have a deep, dark secret: electronic music. Does anybody know where the old Tangerine Dream shows are hiding? Like the GOGD they have a rep for having had some of their best work taped at live shows and supposedly there are a lot of tapes out there. You guys seen any of them online?
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You've never heard of Tangerine Dream?
My God, what are they teaching you kids in school these days? Seminal German electronic group (aren't they all) but not as monotonously droney as Kraftwerk, more spacey. They were around near the end of the psychedelic era. They've been in several movie soundtracks, you've probably heard a little snippet or two of something TD did and not realized that's who it was, they also get used as background/bumper music. Wikipedia has a pretty good article on them. Yeah, I couldn't find them on the archive sites either, but from what I've read there are a bunch of tapes out there.
Jean-Michel Jarre is another good electronica type, Zoolook is a great album. I have it on a commercial tape but need to upgrade to CD. Vangelis is too melodic, his older stuff is good but he can get boring like elevator music (the Chariots of Fire soundtrack is pretty powerful though, and Bladerunner is pretty cool). I doubt there are tapes of these guys, they aren't known as great live performers I don't think. Of course, I never thought that Kitaro would be a touring act until I met one of his truck drivers at a bar in Nashville.
Thanks for looking!
Cheers,
MarkintheDark
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young kids
really makin these old guys here feel old !! who or what is Tangerine dread ,,?? I got to meat one of Loretta Lyne`s truck drivers just south of Knoxville , actually got to hold her credit card while we where both waiting to pay for Feul ... oh no I`m not an old timer or nothing . he he he ...
I used to party with a second generation Lynn
Back in the late '80's. One of her sons is Ernie (the one that didn't get drowned trying to ford a river on horseback) and Ernie had a roadhouse type bar near Loretta's "dude ranch" at Hurricane Mills, TN - my hometown is near there. Story was that Doo (Loretta's husband) bought the bar for Ernie so Ernie would have something to keep him busy while Loretta and the band were on the road; Ernie may have gotten into some trouble while on the tour. The bar became a source of trouble as well, and I think it mysteriously burned down at some point. Did quite a bit of partying with Ernie but a lot of us did. Oh, yeah, I could tell some funny stories, both first and second hand. Ernie dodged jail a time or two before I moved away in the early '90s, and I think ended up going back on tour with her in the late 90s. He may have ended up doing some time in prison, he pleaded guilty to a DUI/vehicular homicide charge - friend of Ernie's was a passenger and got killed in an accident.
Never got to know the twin daughters though, unfortunately. Saw Loretta a few times around the ranch but never really met her. Everybody I know that did meet her said she was genuinely nice.
End of long story.
Never heard of Tangerine Dream, huh.
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Young kids hell
I'm guessing I'm older than stu and hippy both, and Tangerine Dream dates from the late 60s. You're the young whippersnappers!
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Flac Me, Flac You Vine
Three Dead shows in Flac format on 1 DVD disc (please lets save some postage and cds and keep this a flac vine - if you need help converting to .wav just send me a PM). All three are excellent SBDs.
Grateful Dead
2-17-1973
St. Paul Auditorium
St. Paul MN
Set 1
d1t01 The Promised Land
d1t02 He's Gone
d1t03 Looks Like Rain
d1t04 Box Of Rain
d1t05 Wave That Flag
d1t06 Mexicali Blues
d1t07 Bird Song
d1t08 Beer Barrel Polka
d1t09 Beat It On Down The Line
d1t10 Crowd/Equipment Repair
d1t11 Loose Lucy
d1t12 Me And Bobby McGee
d2t01 Stella Blue//
d2t02 El Paso
d2t03 They Love Each Other
d2t04 Playing In The Band
Set 2
d2t05 //Truckin'
d2t06 Row Jimmy
d2t07 Big River
d2t08 //You Ain't Woman Enough
d2t09 Here Comes Sunshine >>
d2t10 China Cat Sunflower >>
d2t11 I Know You Rider
d3t01 Around And Around
d3t02 Not Fade Away >>
d3t03 Goin' Down The Road//Feeling Bad >>
d3t04 Not Fade Away
d3t05 One More Saturday Night
d3t06 Crowd/Tuning
Encore
d3t07 Casey Jones
Grateful Dead - March 9, 1981
Madison Square Garden - New York, NY
Set 1:
d1t01 - Feel Like A Stranger
d1t02 - Althea ->
d1t03 - C.C. Rider
d1t04 - Ramble On Rose ->
d1t05 - El Paso
d1t06 - Deep Elem Blues
d1t07 - Beat It On Down The Line
d1t08 - Bird Song
d1t09 - Minglewood Blues
Set 2:
d2t01 - China Cat Sunflower ->
d2t02 - I Know You Rider ->
d2t03 - Samson And Delilah
d2t04 - Ship Of Fools
d3t01 - Estimated Prophet ->
d3t02 - Uncle John's Band ->
d3t03 - Drums ->
d3t04 - Space ->
d3t05 - The Other One ->
d3t06 - Stella Blue ->
d3t07 - Good Lovin'
Encore:
d3t08 - U.S. Blues
Grateful Dead 09/04/83
Park West Ski Resort - Park City, UT
CD One-
Set 1:
1. Bertha >
2. Promised Land
3. Friend Of The Devil
4. Little Red Rooster
5. Tennessee Jed
6. My Brother Esau
7. Althea >
8. Hell In A Bucket
9. China Cat Sunflower>
10. I Know You Rider
Disc Two-
Set 2:
1. Scarlet Begonias >
2. Fire On The Mountain
3. Women Are Smarter >
4. Drums
5. Drums (continued)
Disc Three-
Set 2 (Cont.)
1. Space >
2. The Wheel >
3. The Other One >
4. Wharf Rat >
5. Around and Around >
6. One More Saturday Night
7. E: U.S. Blues
For those who don't flac or have a DVD burner...
No conversions keeps us out of the game.
-----Here come a riddle, here come a clue
If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say
Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around?
The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----
Hey Matt
Birdsong is right, some of the viners need audio cds.
Now that I have the hang of it, I will be happy to convert these when I get the vine. You can send it out on DVD in Flac.
Talking about getting old -- never heard of "Tangerine Dream!"-- I got my application to AARP over the weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Threw it in the fireplace.
"One watch by night, one watch by day
If you get confused, listen to the music play"
You don't need a dvd burner
If you have enough disk space, you can just copy the data to a hard drive, convert from flac to wav, burn the cd - then recover the space on the hard drive. You only need a burner if you're planning on copying the dvd.
Converting Instructions
Hey Geoff et al...
Its easy to do... As long as your computer reads a dvd data disc (and most all do) you have no worries. The program you need to download is called flac front end. You can get it at the following URL: (this is for windows)
http://members.home.nl/w.speek/flac.htm
Its simple to use... You just setup the output directory. Drag files to convert from either the data dvd (or hard drive if you copy over) and hit decode... A DOS like program will run and when done will say hit any key to continue... then you are done.. the wav files are on your hard drive and can be burned to CD like any other .wav file.
I am happy to walk you thru the use of this tool... Its easy! Join us in the digtal age :-)
It is much easier & cheaper to send 1 disc then 9 discs.
PM me for more details or any other help required.
marty
I really don't want to turn this into me but,
I have a mac and I am having a hard time with finding conversion software that works with all files flac and shn. I have tried, and prefer audio cd's. If anyone would like to follow up on this with me please PM me rather then continue this here.
-----Here come a riddle, here come a clue
If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say
Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around?
The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----
Traders Little Helper
Sometimes I include a copy of Traders Little Helper on dvds with flac/shn files. TLH is great. It converts flac and shn to wav for cds, also it will convert all of these to mp3 format. And its free! Here are some links to similar programs for mac:
http://www.lexial.ca/alex/applescripts/iTunes_to_flac.html
http://sbooth.org/Max/
These links and re free stuff at http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html
Flac Me, Flac You Vine
I love the title.
I prefer audio CDs for 2 reasons--
1) I got helper to work but it took an hour to convert, and I have to use 2 computers due to my setup...etc...etc..........etc...etc
2) my burning program inserts gaps between tracks
I can do a "disk copy" and burn a seamless disc as seamless
I don't mind converting when I get the chance.
I bought software that converts and it is one way I can contribute to the vining community that has so greatly enhanced my collection.
So, you seeders continue to seed as you see fit. Trust me, everything you guys do is greatly appreciated by all of us. Some of us will convert, and even add some fruit once in a while. We are all part of a community.
"One watch by night, one watch by day
If you get confused, listen to the music play"
I hear ya all
So first person to sign up please be able to convert and seed the audio cds. I'm not a mac user so can't help you guys out. I just don't have the time to create the audios...
Marty
one last resource for you mac users
I have not tested it but looks like this is the same as flac front-end for the mac...
http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Audio/MacFLAC.shtml
Exploratory Dat.
Are you using windows media to burn? If so you should download itunes. I used windows media for a long time (which is why some of my early vines have gaps between tracks). I hated itunes at first, but its actually easier when you get the hang of it.
Peace,
Trevor
"You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
Most burning programs have a "disc at once" option...
...and mayber another "remove silence at end of tracks" option to get rid of the track breaks. I've never used WmP for anything but playing, and occasionally ripping MP3s. Don't really like using programs supplied by the content providers, just paranoid I guess.
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jgb vine requests
Im thinking about starting a new jgb vine but there is so much to choose from that im having a hard time deciding. Does anyone have anything that they would like to have?
"You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
Donna shows, Maria Muldaur too
I mean, as long as you're asking. JGB w/chicks. Donna got a better sound with JGB.
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They are both on the Pure Jerry volume 6
Hi! Donna Jean and Maria are on Pure Jerry v.6 , Warner Theatre on 3/18/78 (31 years ago tomorrow!). Sound great, I didn't know if Maria did other shows with JGB. Thanks guys
MitD
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Wikipedia kicks ass
Lovin' me some wiki, here's Maria's tenure as an "official" member of the band (I think shw may have appeared as a guest at some other shows)
November 15, 1977 – November 3, 1978
* Jerry Garcia – guitar, vocals
* John Kahn – bass
* Keith Godchaux – piano
* Donna Godchaux – vocals
* Maria Muldaur – vocals
* Buzz Buchanan – drums
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ok
so there are very few shows on etree from between those dates and I would have a really hard time downloading the ones that are there. How does everyone feel about 8/22/76 with keith and donna?
"You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
's all good!
thanks trevor
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'Stache Rides 1978
Here is a two show offering from 1978. Popular opinion is harsh on 1978. While I agree that there are some bad shows in 1978, and even more average ones, I think that all in all, and especially in comparison with any year after, it is pretty good. There are a bunch of very good to great shows (1/10, 1/11, 1/22, 1/31, 2/3, 2/5, 4/16 ...). Well, here are two more, 4/11 and 12/28.
Both are high energy shows and A SBDs. I rate 4/11 as a VERY GOOD show, tied with 4/22 and second only to 4/16 as the best of the 7 April '78 shows that I have. 4/11 Highlights include (a) a mid-first-set Tennessee Jed (generally one of my LEAST favorite Garcia songs), (b) a set-ending Deal, (c) Jerry HIMSELF announcing the set break, (d) a hot Fire out of a solid Scarlet, and (e) a great Iko (again, not a favorite song of mine) out of drums.
12/28 is a GREAT show. Highlights include (a) a first-set-opening Sugaree, (b) another hot Jed, (c) a MONSTER set-closing Supplication, (d) Eyes of the World and (e) a great Truckin' out of drums (another song that isn't at the top of my list).
These are WAV CDs, six in total.
Look for a 1977 version of 'Stache Rides soon :)
Stache Rides 78
I think 78, especially early 78 is grossly underrated. Maybe I am biased since I got on the bus in April 78 (Pittsburgh), but this sounds like a great vine.
Thanks Dstache.
"One watch by night, one watch by day
If you get confused, listen to the music play"