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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • jrf68@hotmail.com
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
  • Roland Bruynesteyn
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
  • Charlie3
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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I took the plunge this morning? Yourself? If so, I think we will both need extensive tutoring on how to appreciate the many many discs of the Brent era shows; not to mention the last few. If not for subscription, or this comprehensive box, I would be hard pressed to purchase a show from 78-95 a la carte. There are too many dics in this baby for there not to be lots of great music etched inside. I will be ready to dive in. At some point, I will have to come up for air. God willing, with a smile on my face. Sam T
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I agree on all your points. And yes to help generate over 5 mil in sales they could have produced a better video. I'm sure the follow up videos will be informative, fun & above all clear. Perhaps Mr. Norman can work his magic & remaster the current DL promo clip?
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So yesterday I was stuck in the computer glitch, and wasn't sure I had an actual order. I called Dead.Net (after a few calls where they couldn't tell me anything), and I was told my original order was "canceled" and I should go ahead and place a new order. I placed a new order and it went through like clockwork. Then last night, after I went to sleep, I received an email from an Edward Watson, that most orders did not go through and I should go ahead and place an order (since their issues were fixed). I saw that email this morning, but since I already placed a good order I didn't think much of it. Just an hour ago, in some online forums people are saying that orders they placed orders while the systems were "stuck" actually went through. I get curious, since I really don't want two $700.00 boxes, and I call Dead.net. I talk to a very nice woman, who seems to confirm that I actually do have two good orders and if I didn't call, I would end up getting two boxes. She gives me the order number for the order I never got a confirmation on (the one that was stuck in process for hours before I "gave up"). It seems to be a good order, so I tell her to go ahead and cancel that order, and make sure I only get one box. She puts me on hold and goes and talks to her supervisor, and then she cancels the order I successfully placed online, for which I got a confirmation email; leaving the one order I never got a confirmation email on (since it was never confirmed and was placed while they were having system issues). I tell her why did you cancel my "good" order, and leave the one order I have no confidence is a good order? She tells me that her supervisor said it didn't matter which order she canceled. So now with boxes selling quickly according to what I was told by the woman on the phone, I supposedly have a good order, but no confirmation that said order is a good order. Why did she cancel the one order I knew was a good order? So I am stressing that somehow they may have a list of all these orders that were supposedly in cancel mode yesterday, that somehow are now "good", like the order she left intact for me, and these orders may get canceled as well (since it was the order I tried to place when the systems went FUBAR). I am actually stressed that in the end I get no box, a box I really want. I was told I would get a confirmation email regarding the order she left in place, but it wasn't a priority right now to get them out. UGH... So I really hope I get a box, or I will be very upset at this entire process. Fingers crossed.
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Hope it does not sell out before then, it really would make for an unforgettable gift. Wondering how many are left
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I just received two cancellation notices, including one for the order that was confirmed. When I called, I was given a new confirmation and promised that this would go through. I have not received confirmation via email. I asked how widespread the problem was. The customer service rep told me there were at least a couple thousand duplicate orders. Not a fun day untangling this mess.
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I think I will need extensive tutoring on how to appreciate the many many discs of the Keith and Donna era shows; not to mention the last few. I do love the bands music in that era, just have to cringe when I hear Donna's abnoxious whaling to ruin a great scarlet or playin'. And then there is the single vision super simple rag time Keith....as Jerry said himself on Keith "well, you know man, more of the same". You are right there are too many discs in this baby for there not to be lots of great music etched inside. Regardless of personal preferences, we'll likely both be smiling. Meegwell
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Does the USB drive come with the full box, book, 7-inch, etc? I cant tell from reading the description.
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FYI, for anyone interested in these things, it was confirmed on an audiophile forum that the Plangent Process was used for this box on all the analog 1/4" tape shows and the '67 8 track so the majority of the box; it was not used on the cassettes which were a handful, and not the later DAT shows where the process does not apply. Apologies if this has been posted already.
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If it were me, I'd call Cusomer Service and ask for an order number for the confirmed order you placed. It should only take a minute to provide you with this number, and would hopefully give some reassurance. Though perhaps you've already tried this...
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I just received a email from dead.net store stating that they recognize I placed multiple individual orders yesterday and that they were canceling all orders that did not get a confirmation. Cool. Although, I think the CSR did this yesterday. This was the pre-sale of all royally deuced up pre-sales. 2015 folks, 2015. I'm keeping my faith though. Hopefully the cancellations will increase the stock numbers for those that have yet to make up their mind. Folks whatever you do between now and the first week in October, do not move and change your address or you're double deuced.
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It says "Digital 288-page book", so I would say the USB version does not include the physical book.
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Get a ORDER NUMBER!! Then you can check the order status.
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No doubt Meegwell. My favorite years of the Dead will always be 66-72. For many years, I was not a fan of 76' and 77'; however, now I consider my Dick's 33 and 29 as top shelf material. Still have trouble getting into 78'. 79'-95" will bring hours of joy and a helluva ride!. Seems Dave and company picked good to great shows every year. No offense intended, but I am glad not many Brent songs are included. Guess, kinda like the Donna screech for some, Brent's voice and song selection just made me run to the skip button. Keep in mind, outside of the wonderful Reckoning, Without A Net and Dozin at the Knick are the only post 77' Dead cd's I have ever owned. And those 2 were lost years ago. However, don't remember much of the substance, but played Without A Net quite often in college. And Dozin was one of my faves for years; although the Brent tunes on disc 1 and 3 were skipped whenever possible. Sam T
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Ah now I see it. I didn't realize that there was a different product description page just for the flash drive. I'm honestly surprised that the flash drive isn't a little bit cheaper than the physical box set.
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I called Dead.Net back (and I did get an order number when I was on the phone originally) and the order was supposedly good, until I got this email: "Thank you for your recent Grateful Dead “30 Trips Around The Sun” order. The Grateful Dead community’s overwhelming response to this release resulted in some technical issues you may have encountered yesterday. We apologize for any inconvenience and confusion this may have caused. Our records show that you have submitted multiple individual orders, which may have been a result of yesterday's technical difficulties. In order to avoid multiple charges, we are going to keep only the order for which you received a confirmation email; any additional orders will be cancelled immediately. If it was your intention to place additional orders, you will need to return to the store and replace those orders. Since supplies are limited, please do this as quickly as possible to ensure that you reserve your copy." Well my intuitive sense was correct, the Dead.Net phone person should have left my good, confirmed order intact and not canceled it, because right when I received that email I went in and checked both orders (canceled order and good order)and now they were BOTH canceled (since the Dead.Net CSR originally canceled my good confirmed order). I ask to talk with a supervisor, and he tells me he can reinstate one order but it could take 10 to 15 hours or more to do so. I was not satisfied with that answer, since things where so screwed up to begin with, so I ask him if I place another order will I get a box (since they are telling me they are selling very quickly). He says yes, but he really wants to reinstate my order, because there have been issues with credit card declines due to the numerous multiple temp charges people have been getting due to their system issues. I said, I don't have an issue since my credit is good, and just to be safe I will use a different credit card than the one I used for the two original orders (suspect order and confirmed order). I am assured that my two canceled orders will stay canceled.... so I merely went in and placed a new order for the box. In the end all is well, I should get one box (hopefully no more than that).
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Same story..... my good ordered got canceled when I call up and they left one of the orders that was stuck in limbo to be the good one. Needless to say, after the last dead.net email, I checked order status of my one remaining good order. Sure enough, that one was cancelled as well. Call up Customer service again, they said they couldn't reinstate the order, but could make a new one for me. I don;t want to see how may charges are pending now on my Credit Card. Hopefully this will be it for ordering this box set. Course I said it the last time as well.
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76 & 78 are available again if anybody wants single shows from my box. PM with the shows you want. Shows Available: 1976 1978 1980 1981 1982 1983 1985 1986 1988 1993
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If you are anti-box set, then don't buy the f-ing thing. What the hoo-haa is going on with all this negative stuff about the box set? If y'all would have listened to me from the onset, you would have known the magnitude of this 50th Box and prepared accordingly. Also, if I hear/read one more post about "GD era battles" I will vomit in my mouth. Come on f----ers...there is plenty for everyone in this box. The "Brent-era Folks" are relentless, especially after getting the entire Spring '90 Tour released. Maybe it's a cultural "all about me" '80s-'90s thing (and the '80s-'90s is when I grew up, so don't accuse me of bashing an era I don't understand). Also (and likely not appropriate for this board), stop it with the political ramblings, especially with the bashing towards MinasMorgul and his correct views on violated American freedoms (e.g. forced government-derived health care). By the way, don't buy anything the government is selling, especially if it is "mandatory").
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Fuckin' politics???Fuck me,shut up with that shit! This place is a refuge from that garbage. Pretty please? (no sugar on top) :( Sorry for the outburst folks but...c'mon.
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cleared everything early this morning up with multiple order numbers. 1 with screen shot and one email. now they decided at 5:30 to cancel any screen shot orders. F-that.. and the funds are still tied up.. come on figure it out.. whats the plan for Thursday ? are they going to end the pre sale and then make sure they dont have to print more promo copies?
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Any word on if there will be an all music edition like E72, once this sells out, or like E72 more expensive a la carte? I really want this, but with the cost of the flights to Santa Clara and Chicago not sure I can afford it at the moment.
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Yes, they obviously have an army full of temps in a crowded room somewhere near Burbank 5 floors below the vault trying desperately to clean up yesterday's snafu. Lots of orders were freed up the last couple of hours, I bet some in error. On a positive note, I don't see this thing selling out for a few days, so as long as the coffee in the room with the temps holds out, everyone should be able to clean up the loose ends of their orders. ______________ And please to all, stop with the politics. Most of us didn't come here to listen to Hannity and Mathews square off over useless tripe.
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....count another vote for "shut your yap". If I wanted that, I would just turn on the tv. This box is gonna blow many a mind. The more it sinks in, the more it makes me feel like a 9 year old on Christmas. That's a hard feeling to get back. And the title is perfect....awesome title....awesome to know plageant is in there....awesome because you could play a show every day, and end up in the next month before it was over....an official '86 release? Never thought I would actually see that. My first show was that year. Caught them on the downslide and they still dug their hooks in....would pay a lot more than 700 bucks to see them once in '72....there, I'm done rambling. For now....
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....can I afford this? No...not really. ....will I regret it? Definitely not. ....case closed.
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You people do realize that you are spending $700 for a flash drive of about 100gb in size, which if bought in bulk in relatively small quantities can be purchased at a rate of less than $7 a piece, and a book? I hope that the drive is not locked so you can easily back up the files to your computer. Otherwise, you'd better take good care of a tiny object, which cannot be replaced and you will need to use to plug in any time you want to listen. If you are able to download off of the stick, at least you can offload the cost by splitting it with 50 other people to make it a reasonable deal
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I tried yesterday to order a box and got caught in the never ending spinning wheel. That eventually timed out. Placed a second order once things were back up and it went right through in a matter of seconds. Got the confirmation no. page printed and also the email from Dead.net that followed. Both charges showed "pending" on my cc throughout most of today. Just checked now on Amex website and only one charge is now "pending" so I am good. I do think though that TPTB did not like us announcing what the count was on the available boxes. You now cannot check that any longer. But at 4:00 PM EDT there was less then 890 units so I think they will be gone by Thursday, Friday for sure. I am thrilled with what this box will deliver. Anyone who does not pull the trigger will be kicking themselves and will probably then pay a much higher price on ebay. Rock on
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I believe that was the last count. Yep, around 2500 left. A lot of screwed up orders yesterday, so the number available has seen a major increase.
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First off is please no politics here. The Grateful Dead were always refreshingly apolitical and this site is refreshingly apolitical. Keep it that way, please.This box set is amazing and I'm glad it's out there but it's not for me. I have every Dick's Picks, every Dave's Picks, Fillmore 69, Winterland 73, Winterland 77, Europe 72 Steamer Trunk, May 77, Veneta 72. You see where I'm going here? For $700 there's only a few shows that really catch my eye. For those of you getting this I'm so happy for you. It's way cool but I'm back into the "What's the next Dave's Picks?" mode. We're living in the golden age of Grateful Dead concert releases. Enjoy Enjoy Enjoy!
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I did have to call dead net about my order and I asked the cust service guy and he said the USB was sold out a few hours ago and that there were only a few hundred of the cd's still in stock (FWIW). Funny, I was on fence about buying this. I would say that I can afford it but knew my wife would be pissed. I told her about it and she was ok with me buying it (but I'm sure there'll be payback later if she wants a big ticket luxury item. Which is only fair). In any event, I have bought a lot of dead offerings in past, DiP DAP, winter land boxes, etc ... But not all. I passed on both spring 90 boxes and only bought limited number of euro 72 ... Just thought the price was too much for me for these and was getting lot of the same in the boxes. Plus, I'm more of a 60's & 70's fan. But for some reason even with steep price, I wanted this box so pulled the trigger. I thought the box would be available for a while but seems like only a few hundred left. That all being said, I do feel this is sort of a money grab by Dead and that in the spirit of the band and as a way to give back to a very devoted fan base that has supported them all these years, they should have split box to mini boxes to make more affordable and or sold shows individually. Anyways, I am looking forward to this. I'm f there are shows I don't love I'll sell on Amazon Peace
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you are helping them fix these pirate dreams on the fly.. I would imagine your last statement is something they will figure out after lunch tomorrow. Good thing they have Until Week 2 of the NFL season to figure this out. I guess they are just picking up their jaws and wiping the smiles of their faces after the big meeting, since they decided to do this in 2012. Customer service managers sound a lot like Sepp Blatter,, "We will restore Fifa's credibility, starting tomorrow. Can they do anything on the call center floor ? Or are they just bad customer service? In the last 2 months, I have spoke to 1 agent who was capable of performing practical functions of a helpful and attentive customer service agent. Talking to a Supervisor in Charlottesville, Virginia is like pulling teeth.
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Yes...I agree. Stop the politics, please. Why y'all keep bringing it up? As many others have posted, call Customer Service if you have any concerns and/or questions about your order (or orders, if you think you may have submitted multiple). I called them last hour about my potential 4-5 orders, and they were quickly able to inform me of the quantity of my official order on record. By the way, which show (of the 30) seems most appealing to you?
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Perhaps you should read your last post?
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....que pasa? Concept does not compute. ....as far as most exciting show to me? Call me crazy, but Cal Expo '86....
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..but I am looking forward to (hopefully) sonic upgrades / shows that previously circulated in less than optimum quality. And the old stuff. What's most interesting to me, at least on paper is the vibrant, lively, dare I say bold choices of some of the newer shows. Cape Cod, both MSG's, Augusta, Miami, .. did I go past one show? ..oops, sorry. These are some hot, late-era shows. Bold picks, DL.
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It's tough to say which show I'm looking forward to most. 4/25/77 is up there. Will be nice to pop in 10/21/83 just so I can scream "Kick Drum!" Similar to 10/12/84 in that the reason it wasn't released was sound quality issues. Interested to hear these shows sounding as good as possible. I'm intrigued with 9/10/91, because every recording I've heard of this has either too much Branford in the mix and not enough Jerry, or vice-versa. A lot of musicians on stage here, tough to have a very balanced mix of this show. There's some major heavyweight shows in this box, quite a few that probably would've been released individually as Dave's Picks. Anyways, long story short- the first show I'll probably listen to- 4/25/77, 10/26/89 or 9/10/91.
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Box is hideously overpriced compared to Europe '72 box, but they have us over a barrel. A show from every year? How cool is that? Hell, man, I even want the 4 disc sampler! Looks like some great shows stuck in there, was even at a couple, thank my lucky stars.
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....try this. Get a sheet of college ruled paper, sit down, and hand write every show, line by line. I bet by 1983 your hand gets sore. Now, after completion, look at what you scrawled and soak it in. My sheet came two lines short of the bottom. Holy shit...what did we get ourselves into?
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Check your PM's.
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I always have to intervene here. I agree, this is not the best forum to discuss politics, especially in its partisan and policy form. HOWEVER, this is the place where one can and ought happily discuss the politics of the Grateful Dead. They were certainly, absolutely, never "apolitical." Rather, they avoided partisan politics while having many explicit stances (often through benefits, foundations, etc.) on issues that were precisely political. More interesting, though, is that they had an even more interesting politics: a different politics or politics otherwise. This would involve the anarcho-neoliberal/libertarian-communism hybrids that formed on the road, among the audiences, and in the community ethoi, AS WELL AS IN the production, sale, and economic relations with its fans. This was all part of the Grateful Dead, to enact, in life, an other politics, an unknown or new politics, a politics on the margins of politics, ...one which never formed as such, but was and is always being renegotiated, unfolding through and with the world that surrounds it and its own movements. Not talking about Grateful Dead politics is pretending that you can discuss the singer without the song, or the dancer without the dance; it is pretending that the music is just the music, but the music is so much more than the music.
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For more evidence, think of the songs, the lyrics: from the politics of playing "Okie from Muskogee" and "Mourning Dew" to "Throwing Stones," with the playfully political anti-politics of "Truckin" holding down the fort. My point, though, is that the whole scene, the new way of thinking and living and dwelling and moving and seeing, well, that's fucking politics. If the music is more important than anything else, the music's instantiation--with bodies moving before and well after a show--is nonetheless more important than the music. Politics baby. That means this IS the place where one can make complaints, articulate desires and positions. Complaints, as someone mentioned, are never simple whining; that is reducing a human being to an infant. A complaint should be listened to. I may be quickly ignored, realized to be stupid, or it might be insightful, getting at something, making a point heard in this potentially wonderful political world of the internet (Barlow, anyone, talk about politics and the internet!? ...who tried, however well or poorly, to reimagine a politics otherwise through the potentially non-state regulated polis). My biyearly or so intervention, with its pedantic, hypocritical, arrogant prescriptions.
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I just had to buy this one. July 3, 1966 was my birthday! I give you one guess on which show I will listen to first. Any guess on the second? LOL!
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Very well stated. How very true.:) I would then ask that current American,D.C. style frolitics please be refrained from? P.S.-The "political" thing could go back & forth forever...
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I see that individual shows from the box are already listed on ebay for $65 a show. Crazy.
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I want copies of this box set so if someone would be so kind, I will help take down your cost for recording some cd's I'll cover the cd blanks plus a fee for the recording and shipping!!I can be emailed directly westoncampbell@yahoo.com
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Order confirmed. Just couldn't let Lindley Meadows slip away... There are certainly other shows in this box that I will be very happy to get, but that was the main one I just had to own. I will be keeping maybe 8-10 shows, and will be selling the rest individually on ebay at the lowest prices possible in order to just break even on those shows I don't want. I've never sold anything on ebay before, so this will be unchartered territory for me. Damn you Lindley Meadows for hiding yourself inside such a gargantuan box set.
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