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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • jrf68@hotmail.com
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
  • Roland Bruynesteyn
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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No vinyl release??? This is a travesty! This would make for a killer set, probably 150 LPs; maybe Bear Family can do it.
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and Obama too. If we had real jobs this would be a no brainer.
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Um.........ok......... Now I'm really worried.....but my 72 trunk has the booklet and all that shit and they still gave a few notes on each individual show....... I'm worried..... Damn!!!
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Can't really say if this method is reliable, but by adding x number of sets into the cart, and clicking add to cart, this will reveal how many are left. Like if you're able to add 1250 sets, but not 1300, than in theory there's less than 1300 left. It is strange, though probably not as strange as the "Add to Cart" method, that there's no mention of packaging for this release.
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While I doubt there is an active plot to defraud 30 Trips Boxset buyers they did under deliver with E72 compared to what they said they would deliver. E72 was botched. Does anyone remember the facts on this?
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Thank you, thank you. Very much.
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If I remember correctly, there was a promise of a 'stash drawer', ticket stubs, "travel documents", a Map Poster, etc. None of that was in the actual steamer trunk, however, the book that did accompany the set was VERY well done. The price was great at $450 though, so if the lack of trinkets was what kept it affordable, I'm more than happy. I would rather this new set be $500 and have one book, rather than the tickets, pictures, pins, and posters that have accompanied all the boxes, except FW69 and E72 (coincidentally, these have been the most "bang-for-your-buck" sets). You can see the early artwork here with the extra stuff that was promised. http://www.thebestofwebsite.com/Photos/Music/Grateful_Dead/LargePhotos/…
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...now you're just talking crazy. Everyone knows it would be a Birkenstock box.
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Yeah that sounds about right regarding E72 and it is OK if it kept the cost down. Although the cd holders construction themselves were below par.
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nevered "PM"ed, don't know if we get notification of them, but you should have one. Let's talk offline.
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i think this is a terrific looking box set. i applaud those who put it together. i, for one, like the idea of some limited things, bonus discs, etc. i think very few people collect these as investments, but because of their love of the band, and the music. i like the idea of collecting. (personally, i love old vinyl. i wish i could come across a copy of the 1st album in mono, promo preferred!) i, for one, am priced out of this release. but that doesn't mean i am against this release! but i digress. as much as i love all the special stuff, i do think that the music should be made available to all. look at smithsonian/folkways. EVERY album they have EVER put out is available to download or they will custom burn you a cd. you can even download any of the inserts they put in the original album!!! why do they do that? because they feel that their catalog is worth preserving, and worth being available to any and all. don't we all feel the same about the dead's music? historical??? rhino NEEDS to make money, or none of this will float. special editions pay the bills, but i think that does not need to come at the expense of availability. many people have been clamoring for 80's shows, for example. now, only 6500 folks will get a hard copy of, say, 10/12/84. that just doesn't seem right....in my opinion. i like what they did with e-72 box. you can get individual shows. are they stuck with too much inventory? i don't know. personally, i like the physical product, not downloads, but if that's the way i have to go, so be it. (for example, i think it's awful that the 4 iconic shows that made up the fillmore west box are not downloadable for people.) my suggestion is put a premium price on collectables. those able to pay will pay. good for them! and it will be worth it!!!! but make individual shows available at a regular price for anyone who wants it. i don't think that reduces the value of the limited editions. if anything, i think it makes it even more special....!
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Selling single shows out of my box at 50 dollars a pop. Here are the shows that haven't already been spoken for: 1976 1978 1980 1981 1982 1983 1985 1986 1988 1993 PM me if interested in any of these. Doesn't require any payment now, I jus wanna know who wants 'em. Also, Anybody notice how the 4 CD version has the digital file(CD mp3 or whatever) of Caution from 1965 and the big box does not? -CJ
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I'm not going to defend the Rhino business model. The limited release model serves two purposes for them. - It sets a time frame for purchase. - It allows them to run something into production, collect revenue and pay for production costs in a set period of time. The previous model created a production run, put items for sale on the web and allowed people to buy at will. Since expenses are typically due as they are performed (except royalties), well, you can see where I am going. Back to road trips. There was no urgency for people to buy, so a lot of people put them off. Every four months or so another item came out for sale and the expenses that came with it. Excess inventory sat, in fact there's still some for sale. I bet it was not very profitable (D. Lemieux has said as much). People put off that RT or Winterland 77 box set until.. The limited release model simply puts a fire under our buts to pull the trigger. As such, it allows them to reliably put four DaP, a RSD, a Box Set and perhaps a whimsical release out each year and reliably pay expenses as incurred. It just takes some of the risk out of the game for them, and as you can see by the numbers (Dave's Picks subscription #'s are up 25% since its inception) it does work. Road Trips would not have continued forever as the numbers sold dropped. So its either the devil you know, or the devil you don't know. My two cents. I do feel for the people that cant afford this box. I was actually hoping they put something out half this size for that reason, but the concept makes sense. One show for each year (almost).
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It's pretty obviously to have the people that buy the box and don't have a turntable will have to buy the compilation to hear the 1965 Caution. Now that's great marketing ;)
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It's already been released on "Birth of the Dead," which is a pretty good release (although I listen to the live sides a lot more). I'm pretty psyched for the 45 that's coming with this box. I think they should should be releasing singles like this for RSDs.
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For those of you not buying the box but wishing you could (myself) I have invented a fun game that helps. I made my own box set that celebrates the Dead using only officially released product. You come up with your own, it really helps ease the pain.2/14/68-Carousel Ballroom. Road Trips Vol. #2 #2. 11/08/69-Fillmore West. Dick's Picks #16. Maybe my favorite release of all time. Dead heads like to say things like "melt your face" or "fry your mind". This one does that. 5/02/15/70. Tie. 5/02/70 Dick's Picks #8. Harpur College, Binghampton, NY. 5/15/70 Road Trips Vol. 3, #3. Fillmore East. Take your pick. 11/15/71 Road Trips Vol. 3, #2. Municipal Auditorium, Austin, TX. 9/17/72 Dick's picks Vol. 23. Baltimore Civic Center. Classic 72 post Pigpen show. 11/17/73 Dave's Picks Vol. 5. Pauley Pavilion, UCLA, Los Angeles. 2/24/74 Dave's Picks Vol. 13. Winterland. Slightly pre Wall Of Sound with better sound. Great show. 1975 is the show I want and there's no substitute for it. And then I'm off the bus. Your turn.
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....Shoreline '95. Still have not listened to it since the bus broke down. I remember sitting on the grassy knoll outside the venue with my buddies watching TWO separate fights/altercations in the lot, thinking "this ride is gonna be over soon". Foreshadowing is not usually one my better talents btw... ....check out that San Diego Sports Arena set list from the '73 30 Trips entry. Esp the second set. Truckin'->TOO->Big River->TOO->Eyes->TOO->Wharf Rat, Uncle, GDTRFB->Sat Night. Whew!! This show is three days before my favorite DaP at Pauley....should kick ass....
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....it is thirty shows, lacking any continuity, relation, or coherence other than one from each year. Given the vast amount of documentation of the dead, even if we limit it to official releases, we learn nothing from this one a year pickings. Sorry, I am coming from an academics perspective, and that is what I mean by "historical". With the Europe box we heard the development of songs, jams, themes etc in the course of one of the Dead's most important tours. If there was next to no documentation of the Dead, then a release with an example from every year would perhaps reveal stuff about the band to many for the first time, but that is not the case. This is the sense in which I believe the significance of this is manufactured---one show from each year, it sounds epic, it sounds important, but what is it really---well one show from each year, so what? Any one out there saying, "Thank God, finally a show from 1977, never heard what the band sounded like that year!" This is not a criticism per se, it is just to point out that the marketing (and this is what marketing is about, after all) is, in this case, manufacturing the importance of the release at the same time that they are trumpeting it. As yourself this---if you had to evince the interest of the Dead to someone who is not familiar with the band, and you were given 80 CDs with with to do it, is this what you would use? Not I, for sure. The box set itself is historical in many senses, largest box to date, etc and so forth, but don't confuse the medium with the message!
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Dude, could you just relax and chill a little? Take it easy man..... It's just a box set of awesome music...... Jeez.... What's the big deal?..........maybe you should take a little break from all this box set excitement?
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As long as I can use the shows that made up some compilations...also, from 1981-1987, 92, and 93 there tends to be only one release per year, so I'm not going to bother listing the obvious picks. 1968: 2/14/68 1969: 2/28/69 1970: 5/2/70 1971: 4/29/71 1972: 4/26/72 1973: 10/19/73 1974: 6/28/74 1975: 8/13/75 1976: 10/9/76 1977: 5/19/77 1978: 2/5/78 1979: 12/26/79 1980: 11/30/80 1988: 3/27/88 1989: 7/7/89 1990: 3/24/90 1991: 9/25/91
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....the 1992 entry from Copps Coliseum looks promising too. Bruce was there. Hell In A Bucket Althea Same Thing (good dust off) BE Women Mexicali Blues-> Maggie's Farm (love the versions with Mr. Hornsby) Bird Song Promised Land Shakedown Street Women are Smarter-> Dark Star-> Drumz-> Space-> The Other One (with the "in the circle" coda)-> Standing On The Moon-> Lovelight US Blues hmmmm....
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Well played. My only objection would be 4/29/71 from Ladies and Gentlemen. Probably my favorite official release after Dick's Picks 16 but too butchered to include as a "show". God I wish they could put that run together and release.
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This is a document (the music and the stories, artwork and photos collected in the book) of a cultural phenomenon unique in and to American history. That's pretty neat. Just imagine if we had something like this documenting a choir (lets call then Jehovah's Favorite Choir) traveling the Appalachian church circuit from 1865 to 1895. Would that be worth $700 bucks? And there are 2280 of them left. (the number this morning was about 2580)
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This is an amazing box ... but having just had my job terminated and the cost of shipping to the other side of the world so prohibitive, this will be the first Dead release I will pass on in about 20 years. Of all the times to release something as 'must-have' as this.. BTW, my suffering wife, who has never understood the GD despite being subjected to years of hearing them in the car, in the kitchen, during movies she's watching, over breakfast ... well this week she burst into my study while I was loudly listening to Playing In The Band from the recent '72 Dave's Pick and excitedly exclaimed, "Where's Donna?" True love = when your wife can recognise a pre-Donna show!
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I totaled up all the songs in this release, and found some interesting numbers: Most played: Not Fade Away (10) (not including Drums or Space) Runners up: Big River, Brown-Eyed Women, Me & My Uncle, One More Saturday Night, The Other One (9 each) Under-represented: Box Of Rain, China Doll, Crazy Fingers, Iko Iko, Lazy Lightnin> Supplication, Mississippi Half-Step, Throwing Stones (1 each), Alabama Getaway, Black Peter, Casey Jones, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, St Stephen, Touch Of Grey (2 each) Over-represented: Saint Of Circumstance (5), Comes A Time (4)
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I notice this box will have a generous helping of "Bird Song". Six, by my count. One, pre-hiatus, and the rest 80's and 90's. That's pretty cool. I'm a pre-hiatus guy but actually prefer the post-hiatus "Bird Song"s.
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6 indeed!
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Manufactured or not, what's significant about this box to me is that it contains a ton of kick ass shows. Well, that and the price...the price is pretty damn significant as well. I was REALLY feeling sorry for myself a couple days ago when the news broke. I saved and made plans but this is way more than even the Europe box and that price would have been pushing it. But sometimes you just have to be a grown up and accept your limitations. It's not Rhino's fault that I have teenage kids or don't have more disposable income. I've said many times that it's all about the music and not the trinkets and books but I have to admit that I enjoy pulling down the physical product from the shelf. But I'll be content (after some reflection) to purchase the shows I want most via download when they're made available. However, if you have to purchase the entire box as a download, well, that would be disappointing. I might even become a whiner, or a complainer. But what a great collection: significant and spectacular shows from every era.
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Grateful Prof, as a former History major (stopped at the BA), I think I see your point. But, outside Academic standards, this is the CD equivalent of a Coffeetable Pop-history photo book. It's a gloss. I don't think there is any profitable way that Rhino/GDM can create a Academic-level document of the Dead. It was coffeetable books (on Military tech) that got me into History, so maybe that means this box is a possible gateway for the wider public to become aware that The Dead have a history beyond "Truckin'" and "Touch Of Grey"!Sure the '65 Caution appeared on CD on Birth Of The Dead", but this is a new mastering that makes the recording sound better than you have ever heard before. At least that is what R/GDM would say! I am sure they would say that is why you do NEED to buy the 80 discer AND the 4 discer! I can't "afford" this box and I don't want to find room in my home for the book and packaging, but there are about 10 shows here that I WANT. Am hoping that i will find some miracle money or that the shows will become available individually or in smaller boxes. Also may split a set with someone uninterested in 79-95, but that path requires sacrifices of desire (67 and 75 are two must-haves for my shelves). 4 years ago I was sitting pretty financially and would have ordered this box the minute it was available. The Europe 72 set made me so happy! I'm glad for the people who are in that position now with this box, but I am sad for me and all the others that this is "putting a hurtin' on".
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Love that story.....I've had a few of those myself with my wife....allow me to offer another true love translation.....True love= I think I'm gonna sell the Europe 72 box so I can buy the 30 trips box guilt free...... (My wife) you are NOT going to sell the Europe box!! I bought you that, just buy the 30 trips box, it looks awesome, you deserve it....... Love that woman Sry to hear about your job... Hang in.... One door closes, another one opens....
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....if you look at the list of top downloaded shows of the week on the right side of the screen, the top five are different versions of the '76 Cobo show. What's up with that!!
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It must be the cowbell solo by Matthew Kelly on Looks Like Rain.
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…I learned the hard way on the E72 Box and couldn’t let this one pass by… my order went right through and it took about 2 min to receive my confirmation email. $700 is no small expenditure. And this is no small offering. But for less than $9/disc, there is some outrageously good material in this set. The Shrine Expo was my first bootleg, and if the sound quality of the Morning Dew sample is indicative of the rest, this show alone is a treasure. The shows for 68, 69, 70 and 71 are all powerful and have many, many moments of the rolling thunder that these years are famous for. The other shows are all well documented in many online forums and, while opinions will always be what they are, there is a lot to like in each one of these shows. And considering that Jeffery Norman and associates will have had their hand in editing and adjusting the sound from the source recordings for all 30 shows, I’m looking forward fidelity that’s up to his high standards. Form many of us, Grateful Dead music is in our sonic DNA and resonates like no other. I love the Grateful Dead and their music. And I’ve accepted that the Grateful Dead are gone and that their recorded music is now part of a multi-million dollar business transaction. Rhino paid a handsome price for its rights to the vault- we can be sure they will try to sell as much as they can however they can. And I personally hope they continue to do so. I don’t always like every release that comes out (or the way that some of them have come out). While I have most of the releases, there are some I chose not to buy. Are there other shows I wish I saw in the 30 Trips box set? Of course!! I’d love to have seen 11/5/85, or 9/2/68, or 3/26/87 and a slew of others. But they will come. For now, I’m looking forward to sitting outside a fine autumn day in September… Santa Clara, Chicago, and all the other hype will be over, and I will be cranking up the volume on the sonic journey that this box set contains. And loving THE GRATEFUL GODDAMNED DEAD!!!!
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mhammond12, I can't resist this sort of thing so I'll give it a shot. And you're right, reminding myself that I already have a ton of great releases that I can't possibly listen to as much as I'd like does help to ease the pain. Two From the Vault 1968 Thelma 1969 bonus disc 5-2-70 10-31-71 9-21-72 wish I could include several shows from this year; can't believe I didn't choose Veneeta 11-11-73 again, this could be a several way tie, 10-19 is up there with 12-2 6-28-74 8-13-75 10-9-76 really love DaP4 too 5-22-77 flip a coin, or several coins--lots of great releases from this year 4-24-78 sentimental favorite 12-28-79 1980 JGB After Midnight 1987 Ticket to New Year 3-27-88 1989 Downhill From Here 3-15-90 Skipped some years where there weren't a lot of choices (it occurs to me that the new box would probably resolve that problem) and fudged a little with JGB in '80.
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Well I thought I pre-ordered the new box set the day it was announced-via my iPad. Got lots of "lag"while the order was processing, and I figure it just timed out. So I thought about it for awhile and told myself, I should use the money elsewhere anyway, and I will just get the four disc set... Then tonight I get a confirmation email! Well I guess that answers that question. Now I'm excited all over again. The shows I'm most looking forward to are ones I already have, but I don't care. Remastered quality will give ya goose bumps! Can't wait. :)
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It's definitely not cheap, but I figure this music saves my soul and bring more enjoyment than many other more expensive things. :)
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It's definitely not cheap, but I figure this music saves my soul and bring more enjoyment than many other more expensive things. :)
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Agree with both rdevil and Mr.Jack Straw. 1972 is impossible to pick one. So many great shows from E72 alone then you have fall into winter post Pig. Maybe we should have a 1972 by month game. Then 1969. Then 1977. Jeez! What a band!
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Check PM when you get a chance.
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Wow, your attitude is really... weird. There has to be some historical significance to the shows? You're just putting your personal opinion over what is probably a very complex project for the band (i.e., David Lemieux) to realize. What you want is a box of classic shows, but many of them have been released already: 2/13-14/70, 8/27/72, 9/3/77, etc. This box has to have shows that haven't been released, and ones where the tapes are in good enough condition. I know that there are lots of tapes where the entire show isn't releasable; that's the point of the Road Trips series. It's a compromise; life is a compromise; every Dead concert was a compromise: they couldn't play Dark Star every time.
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Yeah, it's really tough. I understand that they tried to change the fabric of space/time to allow more than ten years to be in the 80s, but weren't able to figure out how. If Jerry were here, he might have been able to do it...
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There are still two smaller box sets I'd love to see: one with the October 1974 run at Winterland, with all the full shows. The Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack box set is great, but there's a lot more good stuff in those shows. The second is a Pigpen tribute box set. They really need to pull together a half-dozen CDs of his best stuff. Just saying... (Listening to the May 77 box set today.)
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Easy on the socio-political/economic/psychological analysis of a box set folks...this is starting to sound like a Genesis/Prog rock forum!
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Paid last night. Went to place my order. I'm so so sad. What are chances some being on eBay? I'll pay
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Is the day that I will know if I can purchase this box set, hopefully the wife & I will get good news. HAPPY FRIDAY, DEADLAND!!!!
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