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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • rdevil
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    Seth must have missed out on the precursor to Dave's Picks, the yearlong series where the spouse ships out in February followed by a limited edition baby in May, August and November. Subscribers also received a bonus family pet that shipped with the first child.
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    1966 - 7/3, Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA Dancin' In The Street I Know You Rider He Was A Friend Of Mine Next Time You See Me Viola Lee Blues Big Boss Man Sitting On Top Of The World Unknown Title New Minglewood Blues Cold Rain And Snow Gangster Of Love ? Beat It On Down The Line Cream Puff War Don't Mess Up a Good Thing Cardboard Cowboy 1967 - 11/10, Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, CA Viola Lee Blues It Hurts Me Too Beat It On Down The Line Morning Dew Good Morning Little School Girl Alligator > Drums > Alligator > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) 1968 - 10/20, Greek Theater, Berkeley, CA Good Mornin' Little Schoolgirl Turn on Your Lovelight, Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > Feedback 1969 - 2/22, The Dream Bowl, Vallejo, CA Dupree's Diamond Blues-> Mountains Of The Moon-> Dark Star-> Cryptical Envelopment-> Drums-> The Other One-> Cryptical Envelopment-> Death Don't Have No Mercy Set 2 Doin' That Rag-> Saint Stephen-> The Eleven-> Turn On Your Love Light 1970 - 4/15, Winterland, San Francisco, CA Cold Rain & Snow China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider Mama Tried It's A Man's World Candyman Hard To Handle Set 2 ? Cryptical Envelopment -> Drums -> Jam -> Drums -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment -> Dire Wolf Dancin' In The Streets Turn On Your Lovelight -> Not Fade Away -> Turn On Your Lovelight 1971 - 3/18, Fox Theater, St. Louis, MO Casey Jones Me And My Uncle Big Boss Man Bertha Me And Bobby McGee Loser China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider The Rub Playing In The Band Set 2 ? Cumberland Blues Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Wharf Rat Sugar Magnolia Greatest Story Ever Told > Johnny B. Goode Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad > Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks) > Feedback Encore ? Uncle John's Band 1972 - 9/24, Palace Theater, Waterbury, CT Big Railroad Blues Mexicali Blues Loser Black Throated Wind Cumberland Blues Sugaree El Paso Tennessee Jed Beat it on Down the Line Bird Song Big River Brown Eyed Women Playing in the Band Set 2 Greatest Story Ever Told Bertha Promised Land Friend of the Devil Jack Straw Tomorrow Is Forever Me and My Uncle Dark Star drums China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Sugar Magnolia Encore One More Saturday Night 1973 - 11/14, San Diego Sports Arena, San Diego, CA Big Railroad Blues Jack Straw Sugaree Mexicali Blues Here Comes Sunshine Black Throated Wind Cumberland Blues Row Jimmy The Race Is On Brown Eyed Women Beat it on Down the Line Tennessee Jed El Paso China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Around and Around Set 2 Truckin' The Other One Big River The Other One Eyes of the World The Other One Wharf Rat Me and My Uncle Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad Encore ? One More Saturday Night 1974 - 9/18, Parc des Expositions, Dijon, France Uncle John's Band Jack Straw Friend of the Devil Black-Throated Wind Scarlet Begonias Mexicali Blues Row Jimmy Beat it on Down the Line Deal The Race is On To Lay Me Down Playin' in the Band Set 2 Loose Lucy Big River Peggy-O Me and My Uncle Eyes of the World China Doll He's Gone Truckin' drums Caution Jam Ship of Fools Johnny B. Goode Encore U.S. Blues 1975 - 9/28, Lindley Meadows, Golden gate Park, San Francisco, CA Help on the Way> Slipknot! Music Never Stopped They Love Each Other Beat it on Down the Line Franklin's Tower Big River It Must Have Been the Roses Truckin'> The Eleven> Drums> Stronger Than Dirt> Not Fade Away> Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad> One More Saturday Night 1976 - 10/3, Cobo Arena, Detroit, MI Sugaree New Minglewood Blues Ramble on Rose Looks Like Rain Loser El Paso Scarlet Begonias Music Never Stopped Set 2 Samson and Delilah It Must Have Been the Roses Playin' in the Band The Wheel Good Lovin' Comes a Time Dancin' in the Streets Not Fade Away Dancin' in the Streets Around and Around 1977 - 4/25, Capitol Theater, Passaic, NJ New Minglewood Blues Deal Mama Tried They Love Each Other Looks Like Rain Peggy-O Lazy Lightnin' Supplication Ship of Fools El Paso Brown Eyed Women Music Never Stopped Set 2 Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Samson and Delilah Terrapin Station Playin' in the Band drums Wharf Rat Playin' in the Band Encore U.S. Blues 1978 - 5/14, Providence Civic Center, Providence, RI Mississippi Half-Step Cassidy They Love Each Other Looks Like Rain It Must Have Been the Roses Me and My Uncle Big River Brown Eyed Women Let it Grow Set 2 Samson and Delilah Ship of Fools Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World drums Not Fade Away Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad Around and Around U.S. Blues 1979 - 10/27, Cape Cod Coliseum, South Yarmouth, MA Jack Straw Candyman Me and My Uncle Big River Brown Eyed Women Easy to Love You New Minglewood Blues Stagger Lee Lost Sailor Saint of Circumstance Deal Set 2 Dancin' in the Streets Franklin's Tower He's Gone Caution Jam The Other One Drums Not Fade Away Black Peter Around and Around Encore One More Saturday Night 1980 - 11/28, Lakeland Civic Center, Lakeland, FL Jack Straw Peggy-O Little Red Rooster Tennessee Jed Passenger Deep Elem Blues Looks Like Rain Deal Set 2 Feel Like a Stranger To Lay Me Down Let it Grow Terrapin Station Drums Not Fade Away Black Peter Sugar Magnolia Encore U.S. Blues 1981 - 5/16, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY Feel Like a Stranger Friend of the Devil Me and My Uncle Big River Althea C.C. Rider Brown Eyed Women Passenger High Time Let it Grow Don't Ease Me In Set 2 Shakedown Street Bertha Lost Sailor Saint of Circumstance Spanish Jam drums Truckin' Nobody's Jam Stella Blue Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad One More Saturday Night Encore Uncle John's Band 1982 - 7/31, Manor Downs, Austin, TX Alabama Getaway Promised Land Candyman El Paso Bird Song Little Red Rooster Ramble on Rose It's All Over Now Brown Eyed Women Music Never Stopped Deal Set 2 Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World Drums Uncle John's Band Truckin' Morning Dew One More Saturday Night Encore Don't Ease Me In 1983 - 10/21, The Centrum, Worcester, MA Music Never Stopped Loser C.C. Rider Cumberland Blues Cassidy Ramble on Rose My Brother Esau Big Railroad Blues Promised Land Set 2 Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Uncle John's Band Playin' in the Band Drums (Sage & Spirit Jam) Truckin' Wharf Rat I Need a Miracle Touch of Grey Encore Johnny B. Goode 1984 - 10/12, Augusta Civic Center, Augusta, ME Feel Like a Stranger It Must Have Been the Roses On the Road Again Jack-a-Roe It's All Over Now Cumberland Blues Music Never Stopped Set 2 Cold Rain and Snow Lost Sailor Saint of Circumstance Don't Need Love Uncle John's Band Drums Playin' in the Band Uncle John's Band Morning Dew Encore Good Lovin' 1985 - 6/24, River Bend Music Center, Cincinnati, OH Alabama Getaway Greatest Story Ever Told They Love Each Other New Minglewood Blues Tennessee Jed My Brother Esau Loser Let it Grow Set 2 Iko Iko Samson and Delilah He's Gone Smokestack Lightnin' Cryptical Envelopment Drums Comes a Time The Other One Cryptical Envelopment Wharf Rat Around and Around Good Lovin' Encore U.S. Blues 1986 - 5/3, Cal Expo Amphitheater, Sacramento, CA Cold Rain And Snow The Race Is On They Love Each Other C C Rider High Time Beat It On Down The Line The Promised Land Deal Set 2 Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain Man Smart (Woman Smarter) > GDTRFB > Jam > Drums > Space > The Other One > Comes A Time > Sugar Magnolia 1987 - 9/18, Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY Hell in a Bucket Sugaree Walkin' Blues Candyman Masterpiece Bird Song Set 2 Shakedown Street Man Smart/Woman Smarter Terrapin Station Drums Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad All Along the Watchtower Morning Dew Good Lovin' La Bamba Good Lovin' Encore Knockin' on Heaven's Door 1988 - 7/3, Oxford Plains Speedway, Oxford, ME Hell in a Bucket Sugaree Walkin' Blues Tennessee Jed Queen Jane Approximately Bird Song Set 2 Touch of Grey Hey Pocky Way Looks Like Rain Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World I Will Take You Home Drums Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad I Need a Miracle Dear Mr. Fantasy Hey Jude Reprise Encore Not Fade Away 1989 - 10/26, Miami Arena, Miami, FL Foolish Heart Little Red Rooster Stagger Lee Me and My Uncle Big River Brown Eyed Women Victim or the Crime Don't Ease Me In Set 2 Estimated Prophet Blow Away Dark Star Drums (Theme from ‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’) The Wheel All Along the Watchtower Stella Blue Not Fade Away Encore We Bid You Goodnight 1990 - 10/27, Zenith, Paris, France Hell in a Bucket Sugaree New Minglewood Blues Jack-a-Roe Black-Throated Wind Ramble on Rose Masterpiece Bird Song Promised Land Set 2 China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Saint of Circumstance Crazy Fingers Playin' in the Band Drums Playin' Reprise Stella Blue Throwin' Stones Not Fade Away Encore One More Saturday Night 1991 - 9/10, Madison Square Garden, NY, NY Shakedown Street C.C. Rider It Takes a Train to Cry Black-Throated Wind High Time Cassidy Deal Set 2 Help on the Way Slipknot! Franklin's Tower Estimated Prophet Dark Star Drums Space Dark Star Reprise I Need a Miracle Standing on the Moon Turn On Your Love Light Encore It's All Over Now 1992 - 3/20, Copps Coliseum, Ontario, Canada Hell in a Bucket Althea Same Thing Brown Eyed Women Mexicali Blues Maggie's Farm Bird Song Promised Land Set 2 Shakedown Street Man Smart/Woman Smarter Dark Star Drums Space The Other One Standing on the Moon Turn on Your Love Light Encore U.S. Blues 1993 - 3/27, Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY Hell in a Bucket Bertha The Same Thing Peggy-O Queen Jane Approximately Broken Arrow Loose Lucy Cassidy Casey Jones Set 2 Eyes of the World Estimated Prophet Comes a Time Corina Drums The Wheel All Along the Watchtower The Days Between One More Saturday Night Encore I Fought the Law 1994 - 10/1, Boston Garden, Boston, MA Help on the Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin's Tower Walkin' Blues Althea Me & My Uncle-> Big River Tom Thumb Blues So Many Roads Promised Land Set 2 Scarlet Begonias-> Fire on the Mountain Long Way Home St. of Circumstance-> Terrapin Station-> Jam-> Drums-> Space-> Last Time-> Stella Blue-> One More Saturday Night Encore Liberty 1995 - 2/21, Delta Center, Salt Lake City, UT Salt Lake City Friend of the Devil Wang Dang Doodle Tennessee Jed Broken Arrow Black Throated Wind (Weir Acoustic) So Many Roads Music Never Stopped Set 2 Foolish Heart Samba in the Rain Truckin' I Just Want To Make Love To You That Would Be Something-> Drums-> Space-> Visions of Johanna Sugar Magnolia Encore Liberty
  • Kate_C.
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    Seth, go with the box; if you really needed a wife and child, Rhino and GDP would've sold them to you years ago! ;)
  • Seth Hollander
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    Thanks, Chastason. I am wrong!
    I reviewed my LMA MP3 derived set of the complete Dead sets from 5/15/70 and can't find the Pigpen rant I have been angry about GDM removing during the Road Trips editing! I must have imagined it years before. It was so firmly entrenched in my mind that I never discovered it WASN'T THERE until you're disbelief made me check in with reality! Well, I am still right and accurate with any other comments I make. Everyone forget about this regrettable incident. My credibility is totally blown... Got a lot of hateful thoughts towards GDM to make up for. Maybe buying this box will balance the scales? There's a $700 see-saw rocking in my head, me on one seat, my wife and baby on the other. When will the see-saw settle to one side? Which side will it be?
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Paul Kantner was back with the Starship last night at the San Mateo County Fair, after recovering from a heart attack last March. He sounded pretty good too; great seeing him as well as David Freiberg who still sounds fantastic at 77. Fantastic version of Codeine!
  • Vguy72
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    Define "new"....
    ....some fans have stated there is nothing "new" in this box. My opinion is as thus. If I haven't heard it yet, then any given show is "new" to me, and that's all that counts....this box is for me, not anybody else. Don't mean to sound presumptuous, but that's my take. Do with it what you will. ....as far as packaging, this release is gonna be pretty big and heavy. I fear the discs might be packaged ala Road Trips style. I hope I'm wrong....
  • boblopes
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    Thanks for the offer to send it from Vegas Baby!!! I'll look at Stop & Shop on my way home from work and if I can't get it there, will order via Amazon. If no luck on either of those fronts, you'll be hearing from me Vguy... Thanks for the help!!!
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    Here in Connecticut I found many copies in my local Stop & Shop supermarket. I believe they're in the Boston area too.
  • DCBoater
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    Lot of Money -- Not really "new"
    IMHO -- -- This box set strikes me as a pretty opportunistic venture by GDM. Talk about "sticker shock." Wow. And, after 36 editions of Dicks Picks, another 12(?) of Dave's Picks, the "So Glad You Made It," and "May '77" box sets, not to mention "Road Trips" and various exceptional -- and some not so hot -- single disk releases, I couldn't honestly even think about plowing more $$$ into another "epic" box release. I'm a deadhead, and I can find reasons to appreciate even some of the "lamer" shows and tours, but I can't see plunking down so much mooola for stuff that, basically, has been duplicated many times on other GD releases. Do I really need another '77 show? Or another '84 show? '93? No.
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Single shows for $50? Nice; copy the discs before you sell them and make ~$750 profit.Why did't I think of it?
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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It does not appear to be Sold Out, if you are talking about the Big Box. Today is payday for a lot, so I would imagine the numbers to decrease by a decent amount. I hope this does not sell out for a while. I bet I will soon, 6500 is not a whole lot considering this is a 50th anniversary box. And some folks may even be buying a $700 set for just a handful of shows from eras they favored. Compared to Spring 90, which had I think 9,000 each, 6500 is small. Spring 90 TOO sounds fantastic. It really blew me away. I have extremely high expectations for the sound quality for the 50th anniversary box. Sound quality is one of the major talking points Dave always brings up. If I want to listen to a really hot show or snippet, I go to the archive or my collection of non-official releases. So with that being said, it will be a major disappointment if this set does not sound fantastic. They set the Bar really high with the Multi-tracks for Spring 90 TOO. Hopefully I am not paying $700 for a half a box of hiss. And for the folks that are just requesting only music and no trinkets. I would like to see them do that one time. It freakin nuts,, because I just scored a total of 81 discs,, no joke, 80+1 of all music and no trinkets.. 1 disc above the 30 Trips, so how about a Bonus Disc now ??? My recently acquired 81 disc set, some full shows and some just killer material picked from a prime show. I am calling it the "Steal Your Face Skull Splitter Spindle" a career spanning spindle. A couple are being released in 30 trips, but that's ok because now I will have some backups. 3.18.71 9.28.75 7.3.88 3.20.92 , partial
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They really blew it with the 1990 boxes. I guess they thought there were a lot more Touchheads than there really are, or at least who are willing to part with big bucks (even though those boxes are a lot cheaper). While I buy almost all of the official releases, I'm not a fan of post-78 Dead. I bought the first 1990 box set, and just sold it last week. I didn't buy the second. I hate the sound they had in the 90s; too slick, too bling.
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Why is the Dead -- Warner/Ryno -- trying to limit supply, save on production cost while driving up retail prices, and stiffing long time fans? The 5 shows are impossible to get tickets for and the websites are raping people with horrendous scalp prices. Lastly, these staggered releases of limited edition box sets or shows is a gimmick to garner early-bird sales -- one of the oldest marketing strategies around. Would you guys have treated your fans this way 20 years ago. JerBear is rolling over in his grave. Shameful.
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I wish they would just catalog the shows and allow you to purchase just the ones you want. Why package them together and put such a big price tag on the set. It seems to me that most deadheads like certain eras of the bands sound. It would be nice to log on pull up a list of all the available shows and simply purchase the ones that are of interest to you.
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And they already have the capability to stream shows over dead.net. Why are they gouging the fans? How many homes must they own in Hawaii or how much dough to you have to leave your kids or entourage when you kick?. No tot be a skeptic or morbid but The Grateful Dead stopped existing 20 years ago and now we have the Dead just making money and putting on mediocre shows with various artists.
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I understand your frustration, but if you think about it, Rhino does not have anything to do with ticket prices, and the Grateful Dead already acknowledged and apologized for the ticket situation, which is part of the reason they added 2 more shows. That covers that. As far as the box set situation, what would you have Rhino do? Lose money? Then no music gets released ever. They are doing what they need to do to make as much money as possible, it's a business. That's never going to change. Heck, I wish they had broken this box set up into two volumes, so that I wouldn't be stuck with a dozen shows featuring Brend Midland, who consistently stinks the place out with his off-key, gravelly vocals, and Play-School piano/keyboard sound effects; but I know they're a business, and they don't want a warehouse full of shows that the market doesn't want as much, so they slap it all together, knowing that they will sell out this way anyway, and that the profit is made. Read Jim In MD's comment #92; he does a great job describing the reason for the business model they've employed. I don't think they're gouging fans at all. The cost of the CDs per unit is standard. And why not put on a couple of shows to celebrate a-momentous-o-ccaision! (Dan Akroyd Closing of Winterland intro). I think you need to rethink things a little bit. It sounds like you're lashing out in anger, perhaps indignant of the high cost, perhaps a little envious of the Grateful Dead themselves, and their Hawaiian homes. The prescription? - put on Disc 3 from 5/25/72 and reconnect with the soothing sounds of the 70s... jayclark - I hear you man, I would only buy '66-'78 if you could buy them individually. But I understand the reason they don't - more profit doing it the way they're doing it. And I shouldn't be so pessimistic - there IS a rhyme and reason here - it's the anniversary year, and a show from each year is a logical way to produce a box set. I mean, can you imagine if they only did '66-'78? The problem is that these bears did it for thirty years....
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E72 was a microscope, a detailed view of one tour. Though by itself E72 tells us nothing about the huge issues of what came before and what was to happen later, any serious study of the Grateful Dead would want to use that tool to investigate the band as it negotiated a significant phase of its development. To date, there's been no equivalent tool to investigate the development of the band over its entire career. Now there is one. Not a microscope this time. Something more like a series of core samples, perhaps. A small group of respected scientists have drilled into the geologic record left by the band, bring us perfectly preserved samples taken periodically throught their career. It could be claimed that this box isn't "necessary." Some academics have even asserted that the need for 30Trips is "manufactured" -- it's merely an artifact of marketing. That's true, of course, but it was just as true for the 73 discs of Europe '72. If there is indeed nothing "new" to be found in the 4/25/77 Passaic show (a debatable proposition), that argument cuts against Wigan, 5/7/1972 as well. We don't "need" either one. Or so some academics might say. But we have them. As tools for study of this band (does the Grateful Dead merit serious study?), each set has drawbacks as well as merits. The merit of the new set lies precisely in its broad overview. Every important configuration of the band is present. As with E72, we could have wished for more, certainly. There, as was noted by many at the time, visual documentation could have been provided. Here, we might reasonably ask for a show from each tour, rather than simply one from each year. But the realities of the marketplace are inexorable. So this is what we have. Would one recommend 30Trips to a student, to a person seeking to understand what this band was, what they did, how they changed, and stayed the same? Yes. I don't see why not. If I were a librarian, I would insist on acquring this set. The accompanying texts by Meriwether and Jarnow have the potential to open many areas of discussion. Those cats have got some serious academic chops as well as a demonstrated depth of knowledge about the band. I personally can't wait to see what they've contributed. I said above that there was no such tool before this set. That was false, of course. A mere conceit. We have archive.org. Anyone making an academic investigation into the Grateful Dead has already had, for quite some time, an unparalleled tool for research. There is really very little that the market can add to our understanding at this point. But not nothing. McLuhan has been invoked below, and we can take him seriously rather than letting his words simply wash over us. The medium IS the message. What this box set is telling us is that the age of the commodity is not yet over. Despite the instant availability of Grateful Dead music from every era, at no financial cost to the listener, thousands will still demand physical objects for their own possession. Indeed, we will use the very internet that delivers free Grateful Dead music to us to demand that we be allowed to pay for it! And that's a fine discussion to have, too.
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Check your PM, Peace
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Think of this box set as tree rings; you look at the tree, and examine each ring to see what happened during a given year.
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Wow, you check all the boxes there. "trying to limit supply, save on production cost while driving up retail prices, and stiffing long time fans?" You don't have to buy them. And, yes, they do have to make a profit. "The 5 shows are impossible to get tickets for and the websites are raping people with horrendous scalp prices." You don't have to go to the concerts. "Lastly, these staggered releases of limited edition box sets or shows is a gimmick to garner early-bird sales -- one of the oldest marketing strategies around." The limited edition is probably because pressing and packing costs make it unfeasible to do a lot of small runs; they save a lot per unit by doing one big run. As for staggering releases, I'm not sure what you mean. You want all the Dave's Picks for a year to drop at the same time, like TV series on Netflix?
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I've heard a lot of people on here lament the fact that they don't have the cash to buy this new box set. I totally get it... It's a LOT of money. Fortunately, I can afford it, but I even paused to drop $700+ (w/ tax) for this. Don't get me wrong, I think it's totally worth it. I just don't spend that kind of money on much of anything. I've seen at least one person on here reference possibly selling the Europe '72 box set in order to be able to afford this new one. I'm just putting it out there... If there's anyone interested in selling their E72 set, I'm interested. However, it would have to be in very good shape, and include all of the stuff that came in the original package. I'm most interested in the music, but I also like the bells and whistles (plus I think the steamer trunk case is awesome... LOL). I'm not interested in the all-music edition. Heck, I can buy that here (and I still might resort to that). I'm also not interested in paying "Ebay prices." I think you all know what that means. Anyway... I hope all of those that want this new box set come into some surprise cash so you all can afford it. It's a shame that they can't just give it away, but the world doesn't work like that much anymore. At the end of the day, it's a business, first and foremost.
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Hmmm, curious about some of the choices for shows. Would have been nice to get Help On The Way / Slipknot! / Franklin's Tower from '77 or '78 (did they play it in '78? I haven't heard a version). Also just comparing setlists on some of these - seems they could have done better than 10/3/76 and 4/25/77 - even 4/29/77 has a much better setlist than 4/25, it even kicks off with Help/Slip/Franklin - perhaps the performance or recording was sub-par (or missing). The second set for 10/3/76 looks kind of uneventful. 5/14/78 is not too far from Dick's Picks 25. It will be nice to have a Mississippi Half-Step from '78. I hope I'm wrong and the performance blows me away on these. 9/28/75 looks awesome. I can't wait to hear the Eleven jam on that one! 11/14/73 looks awesome. The Other One will be nice to hear from '73 and it looks like it's the centerpiece of a monster second set medley; and I see the Race Is On, and really just an all-around solid, long show. 9/18/74 looks awesome. wow opens with UJB, another Race Is On (love this one heh), Loose Lucy, Caution jam. Hope the sound is decent - you never know with '74. 9/24/72 looks awesome. Tons of great songs and includes Dark Star. 3/18/71 - looks awesome. 4/15/70 looks awesome. finally a cold rain & snow. 2/22/69 looks awesome. Love 68/69 for Dark Star => St. Stephen => The Eleven 10/20/68 looks awesome 11/10/67 looks interesting 7/3/66 can't find setlist
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Looks can be deceiving. That is a VERY eventful performance! And anyone new to hearing the 1973 San Diego O1 jam is in for a serious treat...
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If legitimately asked, I have to assume you weren't around to appreciate the annual rise in ticket prices on tour from, say 87-95. Even in a smaller window like from 91-95 ticket prices went from low-to-mid-$20s per to low-to-mid $30s on average. Whether gouging or done because of increased expenses or costs, the Grateful Dead have long been charging prices relative to profit margin. Just as they had a right to do and should have done. The era of the band going under and making no money so the fans could get the most out of the experience largely ended on the night of 10-20-74.
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10.3.76 is killer !!! One of the all time great Scarlet Begonias and the 2nd set is top class. 1978 is a very tricky year to pull from it seems. Some of the tops shows from '78 are supposedly not in the vault. I would guess Dave had his hands tied on this one. Nonetheless, 5.14.78 has some under the radar nuggets. LLR, BEW, 17+ minute Let It Grow, a scorching Samson and Delilah, and Estimated > Eyes that cooks.
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U heads. For real??? Didn't these guys give us their very lives. Greed???? It's a beautiful amazing box. Price is great. If u can't afford it ok. It sucks. But if it was greed they wouldn't make only small amount they are. Lot work goes into something like this. The band nor the organization doesn't deserve any negative comments.
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The complaints, whether it be on price or show selection, all ring of "Me! Me! Me! This release should be more catered to what I want! Me! Me! Mine! Me!"
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11.10.672.22.69 4.15.70 - Could this have been part of the MG stash ? Seems like a few cuts or reel maybe missing ? 5.16.81 7.31.82 5.3.86
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I have to agree with KY, I love the little steamer trunk too, I still pull it out for non Deadheads to see because of its cuteness. I see people talk down the box concept of trinkets, and yes its definitely about the music, but, if I'm gonna get some "special"/"limited" edition, the crap is nice. I still like the Built to Last, Dead in a Deck box. Still have my playing cards unopened. I like the May 77 package with the number of stamped inside the sidelid, the little wooden box for the Warlocks. All neat crap. I also don't believe prices would drop much without the stuff, the stuff is sold for its market value. There isn't 400 bucks worth of material in even a nice package like Europe 72. Pet whine - stop with all the abbreviations in post, I hate having to decipher what a series of letters mean :-) A little more whining,,, why all the hate/strong dislike with the 80's stuff and vitriol against Brent? I LOVED his organ sound, that Leslie speaker whining up,,,wow. Some great Morning Dews with that organ! And in the end I guess the band liked him enough to keep him on,, guess they saw something in his playing. Good enough for them, should be good enough for you. I like the idea of the current set, my brother in law who is a big music fan, when I told him about the set, instantly said wow that will certainly show the contrast of their career, because they had to sound a lot different after 30 years of playing together. And they do,,,,,or don't? Final thoughts - My brother in law and myself always talk music and he introduced me to his rule of music. After some discussions we agreed "EVERYBODY" loves music, ask anyone and they will tell you they love music. They may only have the 5 albums/cds they bought in high school, they may only listen to pop AM stations or talk radio, but they love music. So we came up with the 3 immutable rules of music. These will stand the test of time. Use them against any music and you will see them for the facts they are. Rule 1 - Good music is what I like. Rule 2 - Music I like is NEVER too loud. Rule 3 - Muisc I don't like is ALWAYS too loud. Enjoy Dennis
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I just want to be clear, my post complaining about the show selection was completely facetious. I think that flew over a few heads. I think the selection is amazing and this box is just loaded with shows that I cannot wait to hear.
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Found this on jerrygarcia.com http://jerrygarcia.com/show/1966-07-03-fillmore-auditorium-san-francisc… Dancin' In The Street I Know You Rider He Was A Friend Of Mine Next Time You See Me Viola Lee Blues Big Boss Man Sitting On Top Of The World Unknown Title New Minglewood Blues Cold Rain And Snow Unknown Title Beat It On Down The Line Cream Puff War Don't Mess Up a Good Thing Cardboard Cowboy
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I love starting my day reading the comments on this site. Deadheads are a persnickety bunch for sure. Those 90's shows are gonna rock in this set. I had the pleasure of attending the Salt Lake shows in 95 and I can tell you, you're gonna love that show, if you haven't heard it. I was watching some youtube video of the Boston Garden show from 94 (thanks Voodoonola) and it's going to be rippin'.
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Couple tracks from that one are on Rare Cuts & Oddities. One of them being Gangster Of Love so I suppose that takes care of one of those two untitled tunes...
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Totally got your post. My show complaint reference was geared to the umpteenth iteration from the "Brent and the 80s sucked" crowd.
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This is 7.29.66 has any of these been released ? I am under the impression it has not been. Standing on the Corner I Know You Rider Next Time You See Me Sittin' On Top of the World You Don't Have To Ask Big Boss Man Stealin Cardboard Cowboy It's All Over Now, Baby Blue Cream Puff War I have Rare Cuts and Both Birth of Dead, but this was included in the 81-disc Skull Splitter Spindle I just scored. Very Surprising that the piece from April 1966 at Longshoreman's Hall or even 12.1.66 from The Matrix was not selected.. Both did have various cuts, but at this point it seems like a vast majority of shows that still remain unreleased in the Vault will have cuts, dropouts, and hiss. Longshoreman's Hall is not to be forgotten. Would have loved to see "One Kind Favor" included
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Don't forget Rule 4- 'Music is Best' -FZ
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a bigger book! Three new grateful dead books this month is not enough! It also needs more filler because some of these CDs will only be 30 minutes long if the set is to be seemless. And how about bonus shows?
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Gangster of Love - Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, July 3, 1966Don't Mess Up A Good Thing - Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, July 3, 1966
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Remember when it was announced and price of the box was given at $450.00 for I think they said it was 65 discs, and then when they looked closer they had to up it to 73 discs, but said they would not raise the price. So that box was with all fairness under priced. Which is probably why they did decide to release an all music edition, and individual show's.
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I am most looking forward to hearing the Waterbury show upgrade. Good month, good year, with an epic playing of a famous good tune....
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Yesterday when I checked, there were about 2,400 left. Looks like there are now about 2,200 left. So they only sold 200 in the last day or so. At that rate, it will take at least another week or two to sell out, maybe even longer. Start saving your pesos, get a part time job, sell the old CDs you don't need, hock the wife's brooch, sell some plasma, or go ahead and try some good old fashioned panhandling...and you might still get in before they sell out. "So you don't forget, call before midnight tonight!" LOL
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If you remember, the May '77 box (at a cheaper cost and from a year that most like) took just about as long to sell out as S'90 (TOO). I guess there weren't enough Donna Heads to buy it quickly... ...my ridiculous sarcastic counter to the more ridiculous statement regarding "Touch Heads". That would be like me saying the reason this $700 box set is selling out so fast is because more than half of it has the Brent and Vince eras.
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Hey Space, the 1990 TOO is not sold out yet.
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For a band and community that came out of a movement based on peace and love, I am simply amazed at the amount of hatred and vitriol that spews from these comments.
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i just find it very interesting that "the Grateful Dead" is the hardest ticket to get for all the summer tours more than the Stones etc etc... My thought is if people are spending thousand on these tickets and traveling expenses what kind of fans are they???? So why is it so hard to sell a box of their career for $700.00....when there is only 6500 copies. I think having this box last you a lifetime is better than not going at all. I'm just curious where are all these "hardcore Dead fans" are coming from that they wouldn't be jumping at this offer.
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i just find it very interesting that "the Grateful Dead" is the hardest ticket to get for all the summer tours more than the Stones etc etc... My thought is if people are spending thousand on these tickets and traveling expenses what kind of fans are they???? So why is it so hard to sell a box of their career for $700.00....when there is only 6500 copies. I think having this box last you a lifetime is better than not going at all. I'm just curious where are all these "hardcore Dead fans" are coming from that they wouldn't be jumping at this offer.
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Imo, some folks are more into the "scene" than the music.
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I agree, anyway, I often felt that way when I saw shows
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Don't use logic when pigheadedness and elitist attitudes seem to prevail. I find the hatred here disturbing, it's worse than seeing Kiss fans crying over other guys' wearing the iconic makeup. Moaning over the price, less than $9 a disc plus you get the box, book and trinkets on top of that. Hell, try to find any of the studio albums new for $9 a disc. How dare they try to break even and, god forbid, actually make a bit of profit. Rhino and The Dead aren't a charity? Wow,now I've heard everything. All this moaning over a band choosing to celebrate their 50th anniversary by actually celebrating their entire career. Wow, unheard of. How dare they not limit it to what the self-appointed arbiters of taste have deemed the only years worthy of celebration. If that's what someone wants there's always Dave's Picks... Guess some people just think the band should have stopped evolving and just lived in the past. If that's what you want there's always The Eagles.
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Its very boring to me. There's usually no point or facts to substantiate any of these claims, they're opinions folks. Secondly, even if someone is right or has a point.. its like, yea, so what? None of it makes any difference. I bet my piano player can beat up your piano player! There's always the archive, and theres no greed or capitalists there, its all free. (Can I emphasize how generous the band is for allowing this, no greed here. I am forever thankful and henceforth will be naming all my unborn children Charlie Miller). There are some really bright, positive people on this board that add what are to me, really interesting insights, comments, stories, analysis of shows.. I eat that stuff up and its fun to read. I could rattle off a page full of names of people that contribute. There's a handful of people that need a nap and a binki. Please keep it positive.
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You and I have had our differences. We don't like each other. We don't respond to each other's posts. However, I hope you'll read this one. Nearly every single one of your posts contains an insult (veiled or otherwise), sarcasm, or criticism of someone else on the board. I looked back, 4 of your 5 posts on this thread would qualify. You seem to thrive on sowing discord and restarting the "eras debate" with every post. Of course, you're not the only one who takes part in this classic debate, but no one seems to inspire the controversy that you do. You clearly feel that there is an "internet clique" composed of many individuals that have some vendetta against you, as you have suggested so in the past. I disagree, but that is neither here nor there. My point is; you rarely talk about the music. I would respectfully ask you to keep it about the music and your tastes and please stop this crusade before things get out of hand again. Thanks, Jack
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the COBO 76 show is incredible, you'll not be disappointed i could quibble with 04/25/77 in favor of others (i also wanted a full-on H/S/F), but its a great show, 2nd set is killer re 05/14/78...it is correct that a great many 78 betty's are missing, maybe they'll come back one day. the obvious choice for this box would have been 07/08/78 but alas, it aint in the vault (yet). however i've not met a 78 show i didnt love yet, so i am resisting the urge to sneak a listen at this one. all 78 is good to me
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Just heard Jerry's solo in Looks Like Rain, simply amazing! Not even a fan of the song, but this has to be one of the best Jerry solos ever. Check it out...
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Don't forget the the May 77 box was limited to 15,000 copies and sold out. Not only is Spring 90 TOO still available, it was limited to far fewer copies (9,000).
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I just wrapped up chapter 15 of David Browne's excellent book SMR: The Life And Time Of The Grateful Dead and it's sort of about 95 and the end. Man there's many emotions coming from this fan but ultimately I know I'll seek and find the fun and positive side of this long strange trip. If I put American Beauty on I would probably get misty. I'd better go look for a Scarlet>Fire.
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Listening now cousins... and rarely listen to LLR
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1 Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo - 12:532 Cassidy - 05:56 3 They Love Each Other - 07:20 4 Looks Like Rain - 09:53 5 It Must Have Been The Roses - 06:53 6 Me And My Uncle -> - 02:56 7 Big River - 06:35 8 Brown Eyed Women - 06:33 9 Let It Grow - 17:51 10 Tuning - 01:12 11 Samson And Delilah - 10:41 12 Ship Of Fools - 08:34 13 Estimated Prophet -> - 13:27 14 Eyes Of The World -> - 16:09 15 Drums -> - 12:19 16 Not Fade Away -> - 15:28 17 Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> - 08:00 18 Around And Around - 10:45 19 U.S. Blues - 05:41
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I am warning you, with peace and love- Your piano player can not beat up my piano player. Because my piano player is the God of Russian wrestling Nikolai Volkoff. So unless the Iron Sheik is on the ivories, there is no contest.
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