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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
  • #185
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices
    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:59

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....this discussion has merit. You could put all the shows in a Captain Trips hat and pull them out one by one if you can't make up your mind, which may apply to me. ....next up on 30 Trips neighbors, Cape Cod 10.28. Always liked a Half Step->Franklin's opener. Especially an over thirty minute one?! Can't go wrong with that pair up....
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Submitted by Dusty.rambler@… on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 17:04

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I plan on listening to this from the early years though the late. Not because this is the only way to do it... Just because this makes the most sense to me. I would really like to discuss / digest / criticize / praise the shows with other like minded folks (and different minded folks). I find the dead net forum to be cumbersome. Everyone should listen to this box in the order they find fit.... But if anyone wants to commit to 30 weeks of music, I want to find the best venue. Love the chats at dead.net, but I don't think it fits my paradigm. Edit: not criticizing the conversations or contributions of what is discussed here. Just the format. I'm looking for different threads for all 30 shows. All contributions welcome.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 17:26

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....perhaps she could set this up. Hello??....I agree. This site is all over the place. Needs to be streamlined....who is their IT guy?
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 17:39

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The discussion threads for each show are still there, but just not viewable from any of the menus at the moment. My understanding is "stay tuned" for an update.http://www.dead.net/shows-by-year
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Submitted by Kate_C. on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:57

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...Vg: glad you discovered chat, Columbus! :O We had a small group of regulars who met in deadnet chat while listening live to the FTW shows and it was great fun...in fact, I just came from the c-room where I synched up with clutchcargo (a frequent denizen) who was streaming a Dead show on the Ark from 2009. WTJ: Great call! I'd never really looked at the yearly archive pages - what a terrific resource for our 30 Trips community needs! In fact, I think we can consolidate everything right here on deadnet with the "Shows by Year" forum, this page, and the chatroom for (hopefully) some collective listening and contemporaneous editorializing! WOOT! Dusty: I'll be listening in progressive chronological order, too, and, after checking WTJ's link, am hoping you'll reconsider sticking around...we'll have a lot to discuss! Should you establish an alternative forum, I do hope it's not Facebook - not even the lure of erudite Deadheads waxing poetic over 30 Trips could induce me to join :( ... I feel the gravitational pull of collective excitement as we accelerate toward the event horizon...Open the pod bay doors, HAL.../peace, K
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Submitted by rdevil on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:22

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I'm with you, Wissinoming, that show is probably my favorite Brent era show and 9-18-87 is right there with it. I had long been under the assumption that Cape Cod '79 was not in the vault so was doubly excited to see this in the box.Thankfully my wife doesn't read these boards as your honey-do list exposes me for the slacker that I am. Wilfred, GREAT idea! I hope many here go for that if there's not an alternate option put up later on the site.
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Submitted by garciaddicted on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 04:53

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"At certain points in a better Dead show there would be that distinctive heightening of intensity as the entire audience's awareness would become more and more in sync - increasingly connected - until there'd be that awesome instant when everyone was suddenly joined by the overwhelming realization of complete psychic connection with everyone else in the venue, like an amazingly intense and powerful bolt of awareness shooting through everyone instantaneously, in that incredible moment exposing the underlying, overarching, and inherent truth of the nature of existense. It was like having the cheap, silly clown mask torn off the face of reality, and the ineffable, mysterious, terrifying, amazing intensity of existence is suddenly so perfectly, so unambiguously experienced, understood, and appreciated. Even the soul shattering, infinitely depressing horrors of reality (if you're paying attention to reality you know what I mean) are somehow made to seem to be tolerable in that transcendent instant. In a mind blowing flash! What I'm describing is a unique phenomenon which The Grateful Dead band members themselves came to value above all other experiences which one might encounter at a performance of live music, and they'd labor each and every night to arrive there. They'd have to get themselves in tune with the emotional and psychological energies of that particular night's audience. Through the process of improvised, spontaneous creativity they'd search for the precise frequency with which to be in sympathetic vibration with the audience's collective psyche". Quote from Snidely Q. Dooshbaghe on AVCLUB.COM
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Submitted by snafu on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 06:19

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Audio. ..Once again a person who will not be named isn't happy with how this posting is going and wants TPTB to do something. Enough, skip over the parts you don't like stop trying to fit us into your idea of what and who gets posted. Most of us just like reading other's thoughts on deadstuff. It's nnot like we're writing scientific research here
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Submitted by Travis Loscher on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 06:44

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Would like to trade the 79-89 shows for spring 90 vol.1. PM if interested
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 12:27

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Dead.net, show us some pictures of the contents of this box set - the open box itself, several spread open show containers, the book, the 7" vinyl "single", maybe even the scroll. Perhaps this will sell off the remaining units of this 6,500 unit offer. But keep a few just for prizes.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 12:42

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10/27/79 was my 23rd birthday, I very much wanted to go, but my family had other plans for me. They weren't too keen on my driving 6 hours just to see two GD shows. Besides that I had *just* seen them only 14 miles away at Lafayette College on May 7th in Easton Pennsylvania, which we, my local Dead Heads, had tickets for.
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Submitted by dantian on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 13:08

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is now up. Mine auto-started for some reason. Edit: the auto-start on the listening party makes it impossible to listen while also having another 30 Trips page open for viewing comments, as a refresh of the page restarts the listening party again. This is only happening in Internet Explorer 11, not happening in Firefox. I take that back, it auto-starts in Firefox too, just without the pop-up window. By the way, the "That's It For The Other One" sounds fantastic!
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Submitted by David Duryea on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 13:29

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Less than 250 left (USB) Less than 500 left (80-cd box)
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Submitted by Romberg on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 13:31

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After this sells out please consider a music-only version of three or more smaller box sets issued a few months apart. There are many fans who would love to purchase this music on CD who could never afford $700+ in any given pay period. (Something compact that doesn't take up a lot of shelf space is always appreciated too.)
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 13:57

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I'm using IE 11 and it downloaded as an mp3 to my desktop. Not sure if that was intended or not by the webfolks, but that's what's happening to me...
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Submitted by ToddWCorey70 on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 14:22

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For the record, it should be "fewer than" 500 left, not "less than." At least they said "than" and not "then." End of rant.
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Submitted by David Duryea on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 14:28

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No box set for you! Come back one year!
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 15:00

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Not a big fan of the auto play feature. I guess its better than having them ask me for my email address each and every time I log into Dead.Net (Chinese Water Torture and Waterboarding come to mind).. I'm keeping track of how many people are getting chewed out by their bosses vs. how many people got fired for blasting The Other One from their work computer today as a result of logging into this site while at work. PM me if you were one of the kind folks getting a pink slip. :D Perhaps we have some dead head bosses and someone got promoted!
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Submitted by ToddWCorey70 on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 14:40

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Can I still get soup, Dave?
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Submitted by David Duryea on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 14:42

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Dave's not here.
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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 14:43

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Here's what's left of the the individual shows I'm selling from my box if anyone is interested: 1978 1985 1993 PM me if you want 'em.
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Submitted by drshakedown74 on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 14:54

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For those who want this, yet whine about the price: Whats your cable bill? Cigarettes? Drugs? Booze? Gas? Soda/Chips? How much could you cut back for a year and really really really make this work. Just a thought. Cut out one tank of gas a month: done Grow your own: done Quit eating crap and grow your own: done I understand some people just can't But... I have yet to hear someone with a sacrifice who figured out how they could maybe afford it.... without being completely selfish or criminal. This is priceless....Thanks
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 15:02

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I literally had to check to make sure DP 22 hadn't somehow started back up on it's own (I had just hit pause on it, within 60 seconds of coming to dead.net). Not a fan of the auto play either. Grammar Nazi - that's more or less accurate.
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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 15:16

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Sorry, 1980 is also available ...I'm not that selfish, but I'm definitely a criminal cheers!
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Submitted by dantian on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 15:23

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"For those who want this, yet whine about the price: Whats your cable bill? Cigarettes? Drugs? Booze? Gas? Soda/Chips?" You forgot hookers and fireworks.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 15:33

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Here's a quick tally of people whose jobs were impacted by music blasting at work as a result of the auto play feature. JimInMD - Pink Slip. So begins a lifetime of muttering to myself and periods of uncontrollable face twitching. 30 Trips, cancelled immediately. KeithFan2112 - Pink Slip, in the process of evicting his cat, dog and goldfish. Bolo24 - Fired on the spot. Life of crime ensues. mbarilla - Stern warning from close-talking, mean-spirited boss. Begins 6 month probation tomorrow. HendrixFreak - Promoted, no more weekend shifts. More to come.
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Submitted by claney on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 15:44

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For those who whine about those who whine about the cost: Please stop acting like you some of us are idiots who don't know how to figure out our finances. That is not the problem for most people - it's not an issue of saving enough money. Take my case: I can technically afford this. I HAVE the money. My wife is a farmer - so yes we grow our own food. We are careful and smart with our money. The problem is, there are many "optional purchases" in life, and when you have a family, justifying one that is only for you and no one else in the family, well, it's tough. This is the cost of a fridge; or the replacement of those bad cedar shakes on the house; or a couple of tickets to see my aging parents who live very far away and who we should see more often; it's books for my older step daughter for at least one or two semesters of college; it's a couple of kayaks for me and my six-year old daughter. Or fifty other things. So you know what? If it bothers me that my favorite show of all time is buried in a 700 dollar box, dammit, I'll whine if I want to. My little girl just said, "Dad, I love you - wanna play a game with me?" Hell yeah. (PS, not aimed at any one person - just a slowly built up reaction to a number of posts along those lines since early June).
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 15:56

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I thought I had got off with just a slap on the wrist and 6 month probation, but after I heard my close talking, mean-spirited boss bad talking "Dancin in the Streets" from 5.6.70,, I had to ape Sh%t on him. Lol
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Submitted by Topheraw on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 15:57

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I read in earlier comments about folks ordering this and not being charged yet. It this still true? Will we get billed on September 18? Thanks!
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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:03

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Need I say it,,, "some got 6 months, some got 1 solid...."
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Submitted by Dennis on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:04

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check your PM's
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Submitted by snafu on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:12

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Yep here it comes "OK now that it's almost sold out can you TPTB please put out smaller segments or single shows" "it's ok you said you wouldn't do it we who didn't make the commitment to the whole enchilada don't care". As for whining I hear you and as I wrote in an earlier post I ignore what doesn't interest me. That said some clueless ones like to attack those of us who have decided to spend big are rich pigs (paraphrase). Not that I care if you are rich but as has been pointed out we made our choice how or where we spend our disposable income
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Submitted by dantian on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:27

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That "Feel Like A Stranger" was pretty hot. I might actually keep this show. Wait, who said that?
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Submitted by birdynumnumz on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:30

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mp3 downloaded in chrome as well...
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Submitted by birdynumnumz on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:31

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mp3 downloaded in chrome as well...
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Submitted by claney on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:52

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Hi all - sorry for my rant earlier, just frustrated at what seems like a lack of empathy for people who have good reasons to balk at the cost of this set. But I DID order one, back in June. I feel mad guilty about it because of family obligations etc, but I finally decided I could not pass it up. My rationalization: The vast majority of my income does not go to "me-only" type things; it mostly goes to things for the whole family. I love rationalizations. Also, I just have to say - you are some amazing dudes (and Katie and Mary!) in this forum.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 18:00

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1973 - 12.1.73 - Playin in the Band -> Uncle John's Band -> Playin in the Band Row Jimmy Greatest Story Ever Told Not Fade Away-> Goin Down the Road Feeling Bad -> One More Saturday Night 1983 - 10.15.83 - China Cat Sunflower -> I Know Your Rider Playin In the Band -> China Doll -> Drums -> Space -> Saint Stephen -> Throwing Stones -> One More Saturday Night 1986 - 4.22.86 - Visions of Johanna ; Bird Song 1987 - 11.15.87 Scarlet Begonias -> Fire on the Mountain Looks Like Rain -> He's Gone -> Drums To Be Continued....
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 18:21

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Easy. 1-$750.00 is a lot of money. 2-It's one show a year for 30 years. Everyone has a favorite "era" of Grateful Dead iterations. This release is a taste of everything so there is a reluctance to buy shows from "eras" one may consider over represented or not worthy of buying. 3-$750.00 is a lot of money.
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 18:52

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Will this SELL OUT BEFORE September 18th? I say ONE GRATE BIG YES!!!!!!! I say by August 15th it's GONE!!!!
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Submitted by Oroboros on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 20:48

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this box set. Updating my 110 year old sewer pipes are a priority despite how many times I try to convince myself that I can put those repairs off. But unfortunately such priorities do dictate my finances at times. That said, I will watch for any modification on the possibility of the offering of single/individual shows, as there are some tasty selections to be had. Happy for all of you who were able to swing this box. One request, I did submit my story on the 1977 NYE show, the oroboros, meeting Jerry in Madison and talking art, and those Red Rocks shows. IF mine is a 'special fan remembrance' included in the booklet with the box set, I would appreciate it if one of you lucky purchasers would let me know. That would make my day. Peace "Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself."
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Submitted by PatagonianFox on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 22:13

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now that this thing is close to selling out the powers at be need to reverse their decision, and release individual shows. those representing the band love to remind everyone how much the band appreciates its fans, so how about showing it? if they released individual shows it would make so many fans happy. after numerous deadheads were turned away from the chicago shows this summer, you'd think the band would jump at the chance to spread this release to as many fans as possible. they wouldn't even have to release all 30 shows. maybe just release half of them. ----
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 22:53

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I hear ya.The collector in me loves it.However.....The deadhead in me loathes it. Goes 100% against the grain. ...and being the completest that I kinda am,I've purchased some 'spensive stuff lately. But any extra's I've turned have been for what I paid....or been the greatest gifts EVER. :)
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Submitted by Ziffle on Mon, 07/27/2015 - 22:54

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Answering my own question, posed a few days ago here. After I ordered the USB version, I had a pause, what if it is just upsampled from the CD masters ... anyway, I inquired, and the information is great. The USB version is from a separate 96/24 master from 192/24 copies of the analog or DAT (later years) recordings. Or perhaps, more accurately, converted from the 192/24 masters. If your playback system is up to the task, the USB set will provide the finest audio, although giving up the nice packaging of the 80 CD collection. Anyone who has listened to the high res download version of Wake Up to Find Out will understand this right away, and I expect that some of the older analog recordings will exceed WUTFO.
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Submitted by One Man on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 03:02

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If this starts a debate on the merits of hi-res audio, let's take this off-line (via PMs). But I wanted to say that I have never seen nor heard evidence that any listener can hear the difference between 16/44,1 and higher resolution audio. I know it's easy to think it sounds better. I convinced myself with some casual comparison listening. THEN I tried a double-blind listening test and I could not hear the difference. I felt confident during the test (about 50 A/B trials of the same material on various studio monitors and headphones) but was wrong at least half the time, which is the same as guessing. Also, I have never seen a study that demonstrates that even one person on Earth can hear the difference. I HAVE seen studies that show the opposite. Spend your money as you see fit, of course. Give up the doo-dads (and book) if you must. But please report back with hard evidence that there is an audible difference.
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Submitted by snafu on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 03:48

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Why would any business person care about their word and hold to the limit they promised. They're all scum aren't they
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