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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #131
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    Now that both versions have sold out, and TPTB have said they will not sell them as individual cd's, I wonder how long until they will be sold individually as downloads. I'm certain it will happen.....
  • #132
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    I agree with Space on this, the more boxes that get cannibalized, the more valuable my complete box will be. As a collector I have learned to buy whatever dead.net offers the day it is announced and think about it later. This habit started with Dick's Pick 1, years before i got my first CD player for DP 4 to hear the Other One without a cut, and hasn't stopped yet. I sometimes buy 2 copies and open one, rip it and give it away to a friend, keeping the sealed one as my master. As Rhino moves to a more digital friendly distribution, I feel the number of limited edition CDs will get even tighter as they tweek the number needed to pay for the release and then be able to distribute digitally forever. To see this in action look at Robert Fripps DGMlive as a perfect example of commercial digital distribution of an artists archival releases. What is this ebay thing people talk about? ;)
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    That's Matt Kelly a friend of Weir's, later a member of Kingfish. Also he plays on Beat It On Down The Line. Low in the mix, bummer.
  • #134
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    USB BOLT SOLD OUT!
    YAHOOOOO! This edition of the 50th anniversary box FINALLY SOLD OUT!The last time I checked here and tried to buy 15 bolt USB's was Sunday 21 February 2016, I could not buy more than 11. It took some time but dead.net finally sold "every last one" There may be some returns, but essentially they're gone. I bought the 80 CD big box and I love it. Although I was familiar with most of the shows prior to this official release everything sounds like a new suprise. Since there was a delay with the USB package, I wish the 11/14/73 San Diego show was presented in it's correct playing order, as opposed to the CD version and that the Drums> Space on several shows did not have fades. That would have made this USB better than the CD version. Oh well. I now believe that GDP / Rhino know what they're doing. Kudos on a project done well!
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    Just made it to 1975. Did anyone notice the harmonica playing in the Music Never Stopped? The liner notes do not refer to anyone sitting in
  • #136
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    @Unklesam re: ebay
    On your $200 profit you forgot: ebay & Paypal fees are approx. 10%. So your profit is now down to $90. Is it really worth it? You would have to create 30 ebay listings, and make numerous trips to the post office. I myself would not put that kind of effort into making $90. Rock on
  • #137
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    PURCHASING MUSIC WHILE IT IS AVAILABLE...
    I will say no more than this...Sorry, Gotta do this up in CAPS! ;) 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN WAS AVAILABLE FOR WELL OVER 5 MONTHS @DEADNET. Shows, are not an excuse. Purchasing extra music, esp. if it's available for AMPLE time......OUT. ;)
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    Breaking up these boxes is a non-sequitur imho. I wouldn't do it because I'm not so era-centric to deny myself the enjoyment of something that was put together as a timeline project. On the other side of that, the more boxes that do get cannibalized will only make the complete sets more valuable, if you're into commodities. If you purchase a show from the box that happens to have a bad disc, good luck getting that replaced.
  • #139
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    There are a lot of people who have always profited from the grateful dead. Jerry didn't mind, look at the parking lots in most dead shows, full of people who made a living from selling stuff to kind folks related to the band and band members. There will always be a demand for these great recordings, limited or not, there will and is a way for the masses to get these shows, if not from a friend via a cdr, then from ebay. There are a lot more people out there nowdays who do buy and sell just for profit on ebay, and why not? Where are you going to get such a great return for your initial investment? Breaking up the boxes and selling each show for, say, 30 bucks, that's a quick (within a week) profit of 200 bucks. Where else are you going to make that kinda of cash for sitting infront of your computer and posting shows? Seriously, if one had the money, could buy up as many as you could afford, hold them for 6 months until sold out, then put them up at twice what you paid, there is no where else anywhere that you are going to get that much return for an investment so fast, nowhere, certainly not the stock market. I know several people who have been doing the resale thing for a few years, first with old lp's that they acquired via estate sales, garage sales or record store buyouts or when a lot of folks "upgraded" to cd's back in the 90's. I for one did not do that, I kept my old records and bought the cd's to play, but that's another story cause cd's don't sound as good as lp's in my opinion. They still do it and with the limited editions of most music nowdays, it's money in the bank, especially dead music. There is money to be made from these kind of investments, one person I know does only that now, puts all up on ebay and makes a tidy profit, all from doing what they love, finding old classics and first issues of old records, clean them up a bit and resale. It's a good thing, a lot of these old original recordings would end up in a dumpster if not for what they do and I salute them for that, they are like the American pickers of the music world. Back in the day of 1.99 records, I would spend hours looking thru stacks of lp's, it was a blast. Next time you got a minute, check out ebay, look what they are getting for old tshirts and old bootleg cds and lps, first press cd's and out of print recordings, there is a gold mine out there in peoples garages and attics and most don't know what they have as far as music recordings and rock and roll memorabilia goes. Back in the day a lot of dead memorabilia was free, but as we all know, there aren't too many free rides left in this country. 4-9-91 is worth a relisten, that second set is smoking with a great foolish heart going into drums and a great TOO>wharf rat coming out of space. Not too bad for an added on show as the first 2 sold out in minutes, so they added the 9th.
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    I have a few questions on the individual shows being sold on eBay. Does a seller make more selling shows individually? Seems like a lot of work if it's 30 different buyers at once too. By the amount of boxes being broken does that make the 30 trips box unbroken more valuable, being that there's less than 6,500 then? I have no problems with the secondary market, I would have never heard Pure Jerry full series without secondary market. I personally have no desire to sell my 30 Trips but my wife asked if I'd ever sell it and it was a easy no, but my only saving grace with my wife is I tell her my constant GD purchases will always hold value. I recently saw a 30 trips box start at $650 and sold for $1,080. That's holding value. To me, $300 profit isn't worth the " it's all about the music" because I like the the extras, my wife asked about me selling Winterland 73' box my reasoning was it has the lil good ol grateful dead pin, no way I'm selling.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by mustin321 on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 05:17

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Or whatever you call it...not a big fan. I'm on here all day and I have to refresh the page to keep the entertainment rolling and I'm trying to listen to shows (full shows) on archive and spotify, etc...a lot of the times I forget to hit pause right away... just one man's opinion.
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Submitted by Coconut Phil on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 05:56

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I'm a huge fan of collecting Grateful Dead music, I love the music from all eras. The later 90's shows honestly get little play time from me. I'm also a Pono owner and wanted the HD files. So, I had to choose one or the other. I went with the Box Set at the end of the day, just had to have it. I know there is a lot of debate about the sound quality. When my Special Edition SYF Pono arrived, American Beauty and Terrapin Station were installed. I was blown away by the sound quality, I heard the full music for the first time. I can hear the difference. Friend Of The Devil is the track that stands out the most for me, I heard music there I had never heard before. It's truly a listening experience. I downloaded the Halloween Show Phish played last year in HD. Again, I was blown away by the intense clarity of the sound quality. I have acquired many shows, albums in HD and really love it. The only drawback is the price of the HD files, more, much more. I don't always buy HD, ALAC serves me well and sounds awesome. It all boils down to personal choice for the listener. I can load up my iPod shuffle with AAC format and jam all day. I listen to my Pono with headphones, that can be another debate right there, many brands to choose from, again, personal choice. I have Bose and Sony and enjoy wonderful sound. I know there are $400.00 sets out there, to pricy for me. I made the choice for the box set. I think the shows WILL be available for download, and I'll grab a few of my favorite ones in HD over time. I'm grateful that we have so many choices to choose from. For many people MP3 is fine, then there are others that frown on MP3. Again its all about personal choice for the listener, collector. Peace
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 07:14

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Yep.. lots has already been written on this subject. I will say almost without exception the Hi-Res available (including Workingman's Dead and American Beauty) were completely re-mixed.. so a lot of the differences we hear can be at least partially due to new mix. Just my two cents, I have gone down the blind test rabbit hole myself.. there's usually more to it than just higher definition audio. Anyway, it certainly can't hurt to go down the high res path. The end result is often more attention to the mix, use of higher quality playback devices, use of higher performance earphones and often more attentive listening. Its all good, right? May the Schwartz be with us all.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 07:48

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I was hoping someone would catch that reference.
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 08:12

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After the first day's craziness when this first was announced, I watched the sales for the first week or so. Based on that, I figured it would sell out mid-late August, so I think my estimation was correct. These will all be gone within the next 3 weeks. Rock on
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Submitted by DinaMoe on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 08:44

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The HD Tracks release of the studio albums were definitely not remixed. Not sure where you read about that. In fact, you're the first I've seen to actually make that claim. Please share a link if you have it.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 09:44

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My DVD Audio copies of American Beauty and Workingman's Dead were remixed by Mickey. Perhaps there's others out there that are not, but this what I was referring to and have heard similar comments from others. Are there copies out there that are using the original mixes from the source vinyl releases? That would surprise me.. I apologize if I got this wrong on some level.. but my copies are definitely not the same mixes as the original vinyl mix of these two albums.. but that's where I got my info from. This is what I was talking about. http://www.livedownloads.com/music/0,8823/Grateful-Dead-mp3-flac-downlo…
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Submitted by olddeadheadtoo on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 09:20

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that would be fantastic. Could you imagine, 30 trips, all vintage, made in the year that each show was recorded. I'm sure there would be some orange sunshine, yellow sunshine, orange double dome, clear light window pane, purple haze, purple microdot, perhaps even some of those Mickey Mouse blotters, or those red and purple dragons, or those gold dolphins, maybe even some of that blotter on the construction paper. Now I would buy 10 of those boxes. All joking aside, this is THE dead box, take it if you need it, or leave it.....but you really can't complain about it, can you? If it costs too much, get a second job, spare change on the corner, sell a body part (hopefully one you have two of), sell off unnecessary stuff (or necessary stuff), prostitute yourself (if u ain't too ugly), if there are shows in there that you don't want, re listen to them, perhaps you missed something the first time, never too late to come up with a reason to try or a way to fly. Just DO IT.
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Submitted by Syracuse78 on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 09:28

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I will say this about the idea of smaller subsets of this release being offered: The description says, "Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD." That leaves open the possibility for either: 1) a collection of shows being sold on CD ("the '60s" or "'70 - '75" or "the '80s", etc.), 2) individual shows being offered for sale via download, or 3) all of the above. What they don't say is as important as what they do say. Just like individual shows weren't offered for the Europe box until the box sold out, they won't offer individual shows here until the boxes and USBs sell out. But because some folks here freak out about not knowing all of the long term plans of Rhino on Day 1, people get agitated. Stay cool, and you will have the opportunity to bitch about the cost of individual show downloads or collections of shows on CD before you know it! lol
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Submitted by mbarilla on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 09:43

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If i were to sell ,, here is my price points. Sorry Rhino you guys just did all the hard work and now I can Profit !!! Yippie !! 1 disc show = $30 2 disc show = $40 3 disc show = $50 4 disc show = $65 lol ,, any takers ?!?
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Submitted by DinaMoe on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 09:46

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So yes, there is some confusion because of these two different releases; one being the 2001 DVD Audio of both WD and AB, which were re-mixed by Mr. Mickey Hart. Then you have the HD Tracks release that used the original mixes. Here's the blurb that came with the HD Tracks: "From David Glasser, Chief Grateful Dead Engineer, Airshow Mastering:The Grateful Dead studio albums were mastered from the original master tapes in Airshow Studio C, Boulder, CO. Transfers were done at 192kHz / 24 Bit from an Ampex ATR with Plangent replay electronics to a Prism ADA-8XR A/D converter into a soundBlade workstation. The studio, designed by Sam Berkow, has Dunlavy SC-V loudspeakers driven by Ayre Acoustic amps. For comparison I referenced the previous CD versions and original LPs. The goal was to remain faithful to the originals while at the same time extracting as much resolution and detail as possible using modern technology, and improving on the original releases, if possible. Some of the masters were transferred flat with no EQ or compression. (That is a testament to the mixing and production of the day; Terrapin Station, in particular, sounded spectacular right off the tape.) When needed, EQ was either a solid-state Prismsound MEA-2, API 5500, or newly manufactured Pultec EQM-1A3 tube equalizers. Very light compression from a Fairman TMC was used on 5 of the titles. No peak limiting was used on any of the masters with the exception of Built to Last, the only album that was originally mixed to a digital recorder (Sony 1630). All the dynamics of the master recordings have been retained. Several of the tape boxes contained the original LP EQ notes, and these were taken into consideration. "
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 09:56

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Interesting. Thanks DinaMoe.
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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 10:33

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I can sell them for $5 less than yours, still make a profit, copy the entire content of the box, and keep all the packaging! I think I'll by 10 boxes. But seriously...Hopefully they will make downloads available soon after the box sells out.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 11:29

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Maybe I need a flash sale to compete with this $5 less scheme ;) Buy one, get one half off ?!?
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 12:07

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This party is losing its appeal. They keep playing the same song over and over again... Please turn off this feature.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 12:36

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Blows.It's f'n annoying.
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Submitted by drshakedown74 on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 13:11

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If its one show you want I will burn it for you. PM me your address and I will send it to you sometime after boxzilla arrives, or if its 3 shows, just say. I was just tired of hearing the ungratefulness of our fanbase, who I think are the luckiest fans ever....by a mile. Peace
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Submitted by sfrank115 on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 14:11

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I always have my sound down to prep for autoplay - but my boss was rocking out when it was on, so that could be good :) Excited for the 81 show - and, I have never heard any show from 1986. That will be new for me.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 14:45

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ok, we will put you in the promotable, has a cool boss group. I regret the need to add a new category to this analysis, however. The 'drug test this employee immediately' category. Didn't think about that one. In any case, I won't miss this feature when its finally gone (and it will go).
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Submitted by impetej on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 17:32

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Turn it off please. Really Bad Default.
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Submitted by kevinbrandon on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 17:55

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After seeing that they are down to 250 sets for the 30 Trips, I decided to call to confirm my order was all set. Well to My surprise they said it was canceled because of a Credit Card Fraud on my American Express. To my knowledge there was not one and I had to re order it. I just don't want anyone to be left out for whatever reason there may be.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 07/28/2015 - 20:20

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....i don't know about you, but I divide the sound of the band into seasons. I know some of you do too. The Dead's sound changed monthly imo. Ever evolving. I broke down the show gaps for 30 Trips, so here we go....rounded off of course.... 66 -> 67 16 months 67 -> 68 9 months 68 -> 69 4 months 69 -> 70 14 months 70 -> 71 11 months 71 -> 72 18 months 72 -> 73 14 months 73 -> 74 10 months 74 -> 75 12 months 75 -> 76 12 months 76 -> 77 5 months 77 -> 78 13 months 78 -> 79 17 months 79 -> 80 13 months 80 -> 81 6 months 81 -> 82 14 months 82 -> 83 15 months 83 -> 84 12 months 84 -> 85 8 months 85 -> 86 11 months 86 -> 87 17 months 87 -> 88 10 months 88 -> 89 15 months 89 -> 90 12 months 90 -> 91 11 months 91 -> 92 6 months 92 -> 93 12 months 93 -> 94 18 months 94 -> 95 4 months Season count.... Spring 7 shows Summer 7 shows Fall 13 shows Winter 3 shows Just crunching numbers, but Fall rocks!!....am I crazy? No. Obsessed?...hmmmm, definite maybe.... ....it's funny when you see a word repeated over and over and over, it doesn't even look like a word anymore....
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Submitted by dantian on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 01:09

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than first thought. Not only does it "auto-play" whenever I refresh this page (annoying enough), but since WMP is my default player, if I happen to be listening to a show in WMP and load up this page, my show is rudely interrupted by the listening party. Please fix this.
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Submitted by claney on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 07:30

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Thanks Dr Shakedown - I really do apprecitate the thoughtful offer. After much agonizing in June, I did finally order the box. I was more reacting in a general way about what I perceive as a lack of understandiong of the dilemma this presents for some folks. For example, many have pointed out that if you really want the box, you can just work extra, etc. My point was simply that no matter how much extra one makes, if you have a family it can be very hard to rationalize such an esssentially selfish allocation of resources. But - I did rationalize it :0 --> "it's an investment! it makes me a happier person which makes me a better dad! I rarely spend money that isn't for the family!" and so on... I also got a number of really kind PMs about this, including questions about what that favorite show is (and one person guessed correctly). The show is: Lindley Meadows. Also super excited about Cape Cod, Cornell 81, everything from 67 to .... aw heck, it almost all looks good to great. ----- As for the autoplay. Agreed on that - I'm sure they'll fix it soon. Meanwhile, for those of you with iPads, I've found the autoplay doesn't work on this, so I am using it to log in to the site.
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Submitted by Seth Hollander on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 09:38

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I do believe there will be some spin-off action from this box. Claney, your breakdown is logical except for two things. One, most of the 66-71 shows are 1 or 2 CDs long making the 66-71 box much smaller than the rest. Two, if GDM really believes 70s sells better than 80s/90s, the 87-95 box has a big risk of being a sales dud. I have no idea how they would break up the 30 shows into mini-boxes. I wonder if some of these shows may later be included in other boxes. For example, a June '85 box or October '79 box. At this point the chance of a Live In '75 box is pretty damn slim, so 9/28/75 may never appear outside the 30 Years box... Or they could do exactly what Claney is positting...
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Submitted by mustin321 on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 10:08

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MaryE, where are you? Can you help with this? No one likes it...
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Submitted by claney on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 10:47

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To put this in perspective: Remember how enormous and expensive those first Box Sets in the 80s seemed? Dylan's Biograph (3 CDs), or Springsteen 1975-85 (3 CDs), etc. Now for Deadheads those are just normal releases, and a "small" box set is three shows and 9 discs... Guess they had to wait until rock fans got older and had more disposable income. EDIT - good point Seth! I just couldn't think of a way to divide them that didn't have other problems (for example, having a box with a show from 77 and a show from 81 just seems weird, unless it's in the context of the whole shebang...
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Submitted by Seth Hollander on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 11:11

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...for those weird Yuppie Techie types who would spend big bucks to buy those little silver things that were played by shining fancy Buck Rodgers lights on them inside black (or silver) boxes. But for normal people they were FIVE vinyl discs and who could EVER make something bigger than that! Both those boxes were super awesome back in the day, as was Clapton's Crossroads box (FOUR CDs!).
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Submitted by boblopes on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 13:04

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Just noticed that Vic Firth passed away on Sunday. Local legend in Boston - member of Boston Symphony Orchestra. Thought this was interesting: "Mr. Firth’s percussion business brought him celebrity within a broader drumming world that extended well beyond the sphere of classical music. His daughters, who worked in the family business, suggested that he appear on occasion with rock bands, which Mr. Firth did. He was once reprimanded by a BSO manager for having performed in Providence with the Grateful Dead."
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Submitted by sfrank115 on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 13:31

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Was a Led Zeppelin bootleg box set called 'Uncensored' http://www.discogs.com/Led-Zeppelin-Uncensored/release/3420177 I was 15 years old, and spent my first paycheck on the set. It cost $95 bucks for 5 discs of never before released materials. I have collected whole shows since then, but this started the box set/bootleg era for me :) Ahh - memories.
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 13:41

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This could be it for 30 Trips. They must be doing an inventory calculation to see exactly where they are at. Stay tuned for further developments Rock on
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Submitted by MLavallee on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 13:48

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20 Years Of Jethro Tull. Still one of the best, the unreleased material far outweighing what was already available on there and collecting up stray tracks and rarities.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 14:55

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hbob, that sounds ominous. It sort of sounds that Grateful Dead Productions is going to sever their ties with Rhino. If we recall, GDP signed a 10 year merchandising deal with Rhino in 2005. Perhaps GDP will go back with Music Today, or ATO Records, the company that Jerry Garcia Family LLC is currently using, or even Real Gone Music. "Stay tuned for further developments." Wait and see.
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 16:05

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Well it was only temporary and now has re-opened. There are still at least 99 Boxzillas left. I too have been wondering when the 10 year deal with Rhino expires and what will follow. Rock on
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Submitted by johnny361 on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 16:10

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The Feel Like Stranger from the listening party is killer!! Jerry is completely out of control. I think I have a new favorite Stranger!!
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 16:56

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Thanks Marye.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 18:45

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are some of my favorites. For what its worth, there's a few versions of early 80's Let It Grow that are amazing also. Weren't we all a little stranger in the '80's?
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Submitted by bliss on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 20:27

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I hadn't heard that it was a 10-year licensing deal set to expire this year, but if that's true, I would be absolutely shocked if Rhino ended this arrangement. Look at the name of the executive producer on most Dave's Picks releases and Boxes from recent years, and then look up the head of Rhino Records (hint - it's the same guy). In the 21st century, where any album can be obtained digitally for nothing with a few mouse clicks, the Dead are releasing 4 live albums plus a boxset per year and leaving zero inventory on the shelves. I think Rhino's probably pretty happy with how this has played out. You think they're selling 70,000 Smiths boxsets every year?
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/29/2015 - 21:07

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Not to mention the Vault is no longer in Marin County, its in Burbank. Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Divorces are a painful and expensive. I see Rhino and the GD courting a bit more. The Fare Thee Well presale could be looked at like a lovers quarrel though..
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Submitted by simonrob on Thu, 07/30/2015 - 01:53

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or not? I understood that the licensing deal ends sometime soon. One has to assume that the Dead organization will want to continue allowing material to be released so a new licensing deal seems certain. As to with whom they will cut a deal is unknown (to us, at least) but Rhino would seem to be in a strong position as they are the current licensees and have (as far as we know) done a reasonable job. Whether or not the Dead organization are satisfied with Rhino's performance is another matter and one that we are not privy to. All will be revealed in due course, of course. One has to hope that this 30 Trips box is not a last-ditch attempt to make as much money as possible out of the licensing deal before it expires, but we are not cynical enough to even contemplate such a possibility, are we?
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Submitted by garciaddicted on Thu, 07/30/2015 - 04:19

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When I used to hear this song at shows, back in another lifetime, I always thought it was a pretty song but not exactly a "Grateful Dead" type of song. While I didn't dislike it, I would have preferred almost any other song. Listening the version from Oxford Plains this morning, as the father of two beautiful girls, it really touched me deeply. I'm not sure how it will be received but I will attempt to add it to the lullaby rotation, which at this point includes: James Taylor "Sweet Baby James", The Beatles "I Will" and Elvis "Can't Help Falling In Love".
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Submitted by filberto3 on Thu, 07/30/2015 - 07:45

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This was my first show...and It's a Monster sometimes called the EVERY other One Other... One.One of the first shows I streamed and transfered to reel to reel from the then downloadable Sound Boards. I would love to see what the "cleaned up" version sounds like and add it to my collection. There was a time when I bought EVERY release that came out but in the eco crash of 2008 (right around the middle of the road Trips series ) I just couldn't keep up any more. Any help out there for an aging 70's dead head?
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