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    In one of the other topics, one of the folks seemed not to be so sure of the reception he'd get for saying he was a youth minister at his church. In my experience, Deadheads span the full spectrum from Agnostic to Zoroastrian. I've met atheist Deadheads, Muslim Deadheads, Buddhist Deadheads, Catholic Deadheads, Jewish Deadheads, and Wiccan Deadheads. My Deadhead friends are all over the map on this stuff, and as far as I'm concerned one of the real richnesses of the scene is the ability to see how things look to other folks and, sometimes, experience it from their world. Believe it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on. But talk about it here, and please maintain a safe respectful place to do so.

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    The Harvard Psychedelic Club
    This book, by religion writer Dan Lattin, is right on topic! It uses biographical profiles of Timothy Leary, Huston Smith, Andrew Weil, and Richard Alpert (Ram Dass), who came together at Harvard during the early sixties, experimented with psychedelics, and influenced religion, culture, and health in ways we now take for granted. I wrote an Amazon review of the book: http://www.amazon.com/The-Harvard-Psychedelic-Club-ebook/dp/B003100UOM/… There is a group on Facebook, and the author participates. Barbara
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    that "G-d gene"
    I have a hypothesis that Deadheads tend to be "religious types" - even the atheists among us. Three distinct ideas: belief in a diety, affiliation with a particular organized religious group, pursuit of certain kinds of "mystical" experiences for SERIOUS lack of a better term. I've never met a Deadhead who did not fall into the last category.
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    Amen, Johnman!
    I'll be praying that your employment situation is soon resolved. Keep the faith, brother!
  • johnman
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    very, very heavy
    in reading your post gonzo, i found myself drifting twixt confusion and understanding, but i see inklings of other religious teachings, or at least similarities. we truly are all connected and it is better to care for others before ones self....or so i believe.
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    Mind reflected is Mind expressed
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    The Buddhist Refuge
    On Taking Refuge In The Three Jewels This is the answer that comes from many high Rinpoches through their teaching. When I hear the teaching and I do study, contemplation and meditation that teaching becomes a part of me. Especially the part where they say if you don't understand Refuge in the Three Jewels then you aren't a Buddhist. I think faith is good enough for all else in Buddhism except for this one thing. You HAVE TO know it from the mind and the heart both. Like you said, it is really, really important. So, in order to understand Refuge you must understand the meaning of the word Refuge. Refuge means to seek shelter from something bad. A place that allows you to be away from the bad thing or things. So, what is the bad thing or things? Birth, sickness, old age and death. In other words, the cycle of existence. You are going to die. After you die, where will you go? What kind of body will you take in the 3 realms of samsara and 6 levels of existence? 3 realms of samsara are the Form, Formless and Desire Realms. Within the Desire realm are the six levels of existence: The gods (or devas); The demigods (titans or asuras); The humans; The Hungry Ghosts and the hell beings. So beings of the desire realm will take rebirth according to their good or bad karma in one of these six levels. There are extraordinary human beings who through their meditative contemplation and absorptions take rebirth in the form and formless realms where they enjoy the fruit of their steady concentration and then fall back to the desire realm after their store of good karma runs out. So here I have introduced the two things that are very fundamental to Buddhist refuge: The cycle of samsaric existence that we experience through karmic acts and reincarnation. It doesn't matter if we create the good or bad karma, we are still on the wheel of suffering existence that goes around and around through limitless lifetimes. When we experience the good we have pleasure when we experience the bad we have pain. That is the samsara. So, if you understand this then the mind, YOUR mind, becomes tired of this. It is a question of becoming more subtle and realizing something beyond your every day mind that wants only the pleasurable material things or even just love and happiness because even happiness and pleasure are just called "The golden chains" that bind (tie) you to the wheel of cyclic existence. So, becoming weary (tired) of the pain and pleasure alternating through countless lifetimes one comes to know that there is only one way to be free of the fears of samsaric cyclic existence. That is through the Buddha, who is the skillful physiscian (doctor) who gives (administers) the Dharma (truth of the ultimate nature of reality) which is the medicine. The sangha are the skillful nurses who help the Buddha to give this medicine. The sangha is divided roughly into 2 parts: The monks and nuns (ordained ones who wear robes) who are the first ones traveling the path to Buddhahood through living pure lives of vows and morality and the lay (householders) people who believe in the Buddha and live in community and raise families. So it is through faith and reliance on these three Jewels that we find refuge from the fears of cyclic existence. That is why at the beginning of every Buddhist practice we start with "I take refuge in the Buddha, Dharma and Sangha. Through the merit from giving and other good deeds, may I attain enlightenment for the sake of all sentient beings." And this introduces the last part of refuge. When we truly realize the unbelievable great suffering of cyclic existence we become very afraid. Very, very afraid of taking uncontrolled rebirth according to our karma from this and many previous lifetimes. We bow (Prostrate with our body, speech and mind) and take refuge in Buddha, Dharma and Sangha from the very depths of our being. We want to be free forever from this suffering and we work like crazy the rest of our lives to do it. Because we (I) don't want to suffer anymore. This is the basic refuge of the HINAYANA (Theravadin). It is selfish, for me only. When we meditate further we understand that it is not only I who am suffering. It is all the other sentient beings that are suffering equally. We realize that we have to help all other sentient beings gain freedom from samsaric suffering. When we work for their sake as well as ours, this becomes the greater vehicle of the Mahayana Refuge. Still, if we meditate further on the kindness of all sentient beings who have been our mother because we have lived innumerable lives and there is not one sentient being who surrounds us who has not been our mother, and we realize the incredible kindness these mothers have shown us and seen how it our duty to repay their kindness with love and compassion, when we see this we take the special vow to quickly, very quickly, as quickly as possible, bring them to the state of Buddhahood, this is the ultimate refuge -- it is the Vajrayana refuge that employs the skilfull means of the mantrayana or tantra. This is absolutely the kind of refuge we should take for ourselves and for others. But, the Buddha taught many skillful methods. He taught these three types of refuge for three general kinds of sentient beings. For the ones who wants freedom from suffering for themself, he taught the Hinayana Refuge For the ones who want everybody to be free from suffering, he taught the Mahayana Refuge For the ones who want to free every kind mother they have ever had through countless lives as quickly as possible, he taught the Vajrayana Refuge. I assure you that these are my own words from my own understanding without looking at any book. It comes from many lifetimes as a Lama and this life as a monk who listened well to many teachings and did the study, contemplation and meditation. If it helps even one sentient being to become enlightened I dedicate the merit for the welfare and benefit of every sentient being in cyclic existence who have once been my mother. If there is any mistake here I confess it now as my own and beg forgiveness from the perfect gurus such as Zopa Rinpoche, the Kopan lama and so forth. May the Buddha's teaching always shine through the darkness of cyclic existence that is samsara. May all beings come to find refuge, the means to permanent happiness and freedom from suffering. Sincerely, Lobsang Tengyie
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    thanx star
    i'll look for it
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    I just finished a book called "The Fifth Mountain", by Paulo Coelho. It's a novel about the life of the biblical prophet Elijah who, already struggling to maintain his sanity in a world fraught with tyranny and war, is forced to choose between his newly discovered love and his overwhelming sense of duty. A good book for anyone who is struggling with their faith.suffered a loss, or just wants to read a beautifully written and inspiring book. ...let me light your candle Cause mamma I'm so hard to handle
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    ah.......jeez
    (blushing).......thanx....all we CAN do is try
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    "But I'll get back on my feet somedayThe good Lord willing, if He says I may 'cause I know the life I'm livin's no good I'll get a new start, live the life I should" I can probably find a lyric to perfectly sum up just about anything and everything... at least for myself. Haven't had that spiritual awakening yet, but the faith is there and I can't force it. My spritual progress is what it's all about. Religion or not, believing that we are all connected as one by some cosmic force or God, Allah, Ras Tafari adds another dimension to the human experience. But it is surely not neccessary. Just don't nuke our imagination, bro!
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In one of the other topics, one of the folks seemed not to be so sure of the reception he'd get for saying he was a youth minister at his church. In my experience, Deadheads span the full spectrum from Agnostic to Zoroastrian. I've met atheist Deadheads, Muslim Deadheads, Buddhist Deadheads, Catholic Deadheads, Jewish Deadheads, and Wiccan Deadheads. My Deadhead friends are all over the map on this stuff, and as far as I'm concerned one of the real richnesses of the scene is the ability to see how things look to other folks and, sometimes, experience it from their world. Believe it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on. But talk about it here, and please maintain a safe respectful place to do so.
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Hey, great name there brother-sister.I hope that one of the enduring legacies of Fare Thee Well is that no one has to treat being a Deadhead as a contradiction to any other aspect of their life. When more non-Heads realize how many Head have been living in their midst all these years, they might start to recognize the common traits in them.
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The blue moon this weekend makes me look back.: 5 young adults in my extended family went to FTW there with their Deadhead parents (not exactly dragged there). Each came away ready to confess: There is NOTHING like a Grateful Dead concert. The full sensory immersion, plus the overflowing love, peace and harmony shown by everyone there, did much more than would any amount of listening to recordings. But full credit to the band, to continue to experiment and innovate, to improvise new music in front of a massive crowd which did have its skeptics. Morgan40, I read the article you link below. There is unquestionably a message of hope and redemption running through the Dead music, but it would be too much to say that it is only draws on Biblical influences (which I know you did not). In the same way, I would not want anyone to think that my avatar implies I see a unique link between my faith and Dead-ism. That’s not any more true of my stealie than someone who inserts their favorite team logo on the Face.
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what`s your religion. Music takes your spirit and gives you wings so you can soar upt to heaven if you want to.I`m very grateful to the spirits that my baby-grandson , born July 31 - two days ago - is healthy and so beautiful........
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amen, amen. Thanks for your note, Graceful Dead. I feel very blessed by the Fare Thee Well event. I was fortunate enough to fly into the states and attend the last night. It was a bit sad to say good-bye, but really i feel like the music means as much to us now, and can lead us to shine our love lights into the future. Know our love will not fade away. Hey, btw... did you happen to see the following article??? http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionnow/2015/07/once-in-a-while-you-ge… Peace be with you and yours, a sister down under
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Turn around and I'll be there like a road leading home.We are everywhere⚡️
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Heard Phil yell that after Box of Rain encore 12-18-93 Oakland col. Great show!!
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I'm In Adelaide. I was lucky enough to see both Santa Clara shows. It was bittersweet saying goodbye to the guys as a group, but we can't say goodbye to the Music. What they started 50 years ago is still evolving, and will continue to as the legitimate genre it has become. Thanks, Guys! See you at Bluesfest, loveandpeace (Sat Tedesci Trucks, Lucas Nelson and Promise of the Real, and Joe Bonnamassa)
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I'm in Melbourne. We're an American family with three children, who came here four years ago. I was blessed to attend the last night in Chicago... my original hometown. It was a beautiful night, spent with folks from tour 20+ years ago. I have to admit that i felt both inspired and sad after the shows. The spirit of the shows lingered for weeks and i was completely blown away by how the music and the vibe of a show was just as relevant and important for me now, as it was back then. In fact, it felt like it had just been too, too long. We need that music, and i think you are right... it's so important, that it will evolve and stay alive. anyways... i'll have the check out bluesfest. Any music suggestions are welcome, as i haven't got a clue down here. Peace be with you and yours, jennifer
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Three observations about the infectious lilt that is the pace of Grateful Dead music (and that gives Deadheads their characteristic walk while listening to Jehovah's favorite choir). John Mayer said that the pace of Dead music made him notice how different it was from "everything ..processed and quantized and gridded out – to hear 'Tennessee Jed' played with that lope.." And in Kreutzman's recent interviews he stated that one of the main lessons he learned from Garcia about music was to play "a really full four beats. Don't rush to the end of the bar". Finally, learning that the St. Louis Cardinals and Cincinnati Reds have joined the Giants in planning Grateful Dead nights (thanks for the tip from Holly Hiker), makes me speculate that a steady, measured pace of things might make for more overlap between Dead fans and baseball fans than there is with football fans. I'm runnin', but I take my time.
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You know who I mean. For their unrivaled track record of creativity and innovation, continuing even today, in light and sound. For the highest level of musicianship, sustained over many decades. For the breadth and durability of their own songbook. For their lively and invigorating interpretation of the traditional American songbook. And of course the testimony of the fan base, who the word "loyal" does not begin to describe. No other band has ever had anything like that following, neither in their heyday nor continuing so long, long after.
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A mighty giant had laid down to join his ancestors. But he fell across the trail in the Pacific rain forest that we were hiking on. The forest service cut the tree to re-open the path, and left the fresh face of the trunk at about eye level, leaning up the hill side where it fell. The outer edge of the bark was a deep rust color, and the color had been seeping down in the month or so since it fell. In successive rings, though, the inner core had brighter and brighter tones, until the central core was virtually white. And centered there was a pattern that resembled a tree in outline, with a great canopy spread above the center point, and a vast root system below. At the well spring of life for that large creature was the very idea of Tree, the Form of what each tree of its kind should be. Though this particular embodiment of that concept was now to begin its very prolonged decay, it is succeeded by many, many others which sprang from the same source. Or maybe I am projecting my feelings about my father in his decline.
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Sounds like compassion ,pouring out of the pores. Very Beautiful, THANK YOU ,GOD BLESS .
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PEACE ,TOO AWL,KEEP ON TRUCKIN. YEAH, LOV LIFE !
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GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WAIT,THEY REALLY DO ,EASIER SAID THEN DONE I KNOW ,BEING AS ONE WITH IN IS A GOAL,YOU CAN ALWAYS UP,WERE EVER YOU GET YOUR ENERGY FROM ,BE GRATEFUL!
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Going thought some hard times ,same as everybody else ,just looking around,man its a different world,been sleepin,lol lol ,wake up tomarrow ,[spellings bad]lol.PEACE.
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English!LOL
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I do hope that what sounded like a very good night for you did not turn in to a bad day come morning.
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All is Good,All is Well,opened up a couple more doors, Thanks for Asking, Hows things on your end?
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Thanks for asking, 1973. My Dad died two weeks ago; myself and my siblings were at his side, trying to comfort his passage. We can always wish that the inevitable will be put off a little longer, but his very long, very fruitful life had finally run its course. All of his 15 young adult grandchildren participated in his funeral (and two great-grandchildren delighted the very large crowd that gathered). One grandson did him proud, and moved everyone in attendance, by reading a passage from Saul of Tarsus: "Keep on doing the things that you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, and the God of peace will be with you." What more could you want?
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Very sorry for your loss.....it is never easy.....it sounds like your dads memory was honored and will continue to be.
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I'm sorry. May God's peace be with you and your family. What God did in Saul's life, renaming him Paul, is amazing. HE can change us all one person at a time.
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Im truly sorry for your loss,Saul to Paul,WoW, Strenth,Love,God Bless...
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Prayers With You ...
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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to All!!!
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It is my impression that a high percentage of Dead Heads are 5-for-5 on the beliefs that William James lists in his 1902 book "The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature" as the "characteristics of religious life": 1. That the visible world is part of a more spiritual universe from which it draws its chief significance; 2. That union or harmonious relation with that higher universe is our true end; 3. That prayer or inner communion with the spirit thereof—be that spirit 'God' or 'law'—is a process wherein work is really done, and spiritual energy flows in and produces effects, psychological or material, within the phenomenal world. 4. A new zest which adds itself like a gift to life, and takes the form either of lyrical enchantment or of appeal to earnestness and heroism. 5. An assurance of safety and a temper of peace, and, in relation to others, a preponderance of loving affections.
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Tom you hit the nail on the head, those words ring true here. glad that you are enjoying your new musical stash.... please pay it forward...