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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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February 10, 2016 - 4:41pm

#181

jrf68@hotmail.com

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Off topic

Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
February 10, 2016 - 3:13pm

#182

LoveJerry

Joined:
March 19, 2015

dharwin

Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
February 10, 2016 - 9:55am

#183

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
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FW 69 re-release

Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
February 10, 2016 - 8:31am

#184

mbarilla

Joined:
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FW69 Box set

if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
February 10, 2016 - 7:43am

#185

Roland Bruynesteyn

Joined:
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re-release FW'69

FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
February 10, 2016 - 6:37am

#186

Born Cross Eye…

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FW 69 box re-issue?

Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
February 10, 2016 - 6:14am

#187

Sun King

Joined:
September 19, 2007

shrine vinyl et al...

glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
February 9, 2016 - 7:28pm

#188

Charlie3

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Ramble On

Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
February 9, 2016 - 6:53pm

#189

Dennis

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Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices

I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
February 9, 2016 - 5:20pm

#190

dharwin

Joined:
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Just to be clear...

I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).

John Perry Barlow

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Jocularity!

Even though it was before my time (like most things I like, apparently), I went on a huge MASH kick last year and have seen them all multiple times. Great reference, love both Potter and Father Mulcahy. Listening to DaP15 for maybe the 3rd or so time now. I think this third disc is really where you get your money's worth, yowzah.

One Man's Opinion

Hey Snafu - need a hug buddy? Just hoping that they find a way to release some of the shows in sets outside of how they put this in limited edition - they have certainly done this in the past (found a way to justify) and just hoping that it works in my and many others favor who refuse to purchase a $700 box. If not no big deal maybe I will just grab a digital here and there - but definitely willing to spend more in sets and I think thats good for them to know (they sometimes listen to opinions on these threads believe it or not).

MASH

Frank Burns…pinched-lipped weasel (good actor).

The man's got no chin...

;)

@mspace

Thanks but a hug just won't cut it. While my post was specific to several people (this time) wanting Rhino and by extension the Dead to disregard their promise to those who did the right thing by buying early it actually is a response to our society in general. Businesses that steal their employees pensions or don't provide the services promised. Politicians of all ilk lying and demagoguing and the population playing right along. I know this is far off base but it is out society now and I responded in kind. On person said let's be fair. To me being fair is sticking to your word. Another went after me suggesting I'm not capable of understanding the nuance aka rationalization involved. I would suggest he talk about things and people he knows of. If I come off too strong I apologize but that is what many people need to hear today Peace

Bad vibes.......

I could care less about the "limited edition" aspect. I'm just a sucker for all the cool packaging and stuff. I honestly hope everyone's able to get the music somehow, whether it's single show releases or digital downloads. =P

MASH....

....one of my dad's favorite shows from back in the day, along with Barney Miller and All In The Family. M*A*S*H* was never the same when Major Burns / Linville left imo, and definitely crashed when Radar bolted. They don't make shows like those anymore....

Roll Right Stones from Shootout

I just love that track. The Dead tour with Winwood was great stuff.

Traffic

I like the whole album. I remember the reviews were mixed, which doesn't say much. The title cut is playing as I type ('Shootout At The Fantasy Factory for those who don't know). Great percussion - go Rebop! I wish I'd been able to see the Dead/Traffic tour. Cued it up after GD. I went in deep this weekend in honor of JG's birthday. Started with 69-70 Fri. night/Sat. morning, 77-78 Sat. afternoon & evening (some Spring '90 was in there as well) and dove off the deep end with '74 all day. I haven't listened to DP7 & DP12 for awhile. Hope the week is painless for everyone.

Attention, attention!!....

....John Barleycorn Must Die. That is all....

@ claney

That sounds like a great day. Feeling grateful is a wonderful state of mind (with or without pun)! I just had to laugh because Casserole is one of the many nicknames of my oldest daughter Cassidy.

Frank Burns

Ferret Face Today we start a paint job on a 4 million dollar Penthouse in Center City Philadelphia, on my way down I-95 the travelling music will be 3/20/77, yeah I'm on a '77 kick again at least until Wednesday then I listen to....... HAVE A MANIC MONDAY, DEADLAND!!!!!!!!

Traffic

I am pretty partial to all of the albums they did after the short split following Last Exit. John Barleycorn, Lowspark of High Heeled Boys, Shootout at the Fantasy Factory and even When The Eagle Flies. But if I had to pick a favorite, I would have to go with Lowspark.. hence the username. I like to use the two live albums (Welcome to the Canteen, On the Road) as pallet cleansers between Dick's Picks sometimes. Winwood plays some insane lead guitar on "Light Up Or Leave Me Alone" from On the Road.

Traffic - Low Spark

I am a big sucker for Low Spark. Last year at Lockn Winwood did a great Low Spark with Wide Spread Panic as the band. Does anyone have a copy of that? The WSP alone was available to buy but not the set with Winwood? And that set was followed by Tom Petty, which was pretty bad, I swore it was the same set he did with the dead and Dylan back in what 87?

Frank Burns...

You see that guy in a couple of other parts on TV (The Rockford Files, maybe a Quincy), he always plays Frank Burns. Never a guy you'd like!

wissinomnigdeadhead

Hey man, please no pot smoking in the house - you'll want to go up on the roof for that. Meet you up there at 5pm. And don't forget to throw a drop cloth over my piano!

@keithfan2112 & 5/28/77

Well you don't have to worry about the pot smoking I have 19 years drink/drug free, in fact I checked into rehab the LAST day of 1995, as the "party" was over & my sanity was lost on the Streets of Philadelphia. My 'new" addiction is DEAD!!!! Now about that Grand Piano.... 5/28/77 The wife is in the process of emptying our room as we are going to be adventure sleeping starting tomorrow night while, I remove the wallpaper, repaint the walls & ceiling & add a new light fixture & other assorted decorative amenities. A promise I made 10 years ago is finally getting fulfilled to re do our bedroom it's the LAST room to be touched. The reason I brought this up is while cleaning out from behind & under the bed the wife found, a 100 dollar bill, an un cashed bonus check she lost & the most important thing, a SEALED copy of "To Terrapin", 5/28/77 OMG OMG, where, how & WHY this was the under the bed is beyond me yet the receipt states I purchased this in 2009 along with a copy of Rush, Grace Under Pressure Live, well it's 6:49PM time to take apart the bed, & rip up the carpet & listen to my "NEW" copy of 5/28/77, though for some reason the Misses isn't to thrilled that she found it, while I'm very thrilled she found it she made my Monday, THANKS DARLING, I O U 1!!!!!! One More Monday Night, Deadland!!!!!!

Well, hello all,

I enjoy your posts. High on Jack Daniels today. Explains why I am actually participating instead of lurking here. I was at three of these 30 trips shows, '83, '84, and '85, pretty crazy since I only saw something in the low 20s of number of shows, (Spring '83-Spring '87), plus a handful of JGB. I only have one or two memories (but these are strong memories), of each show. Some shows I just know I was there. This is all I have for the '83 Worcester show: Birdsong- standing in front of the soundboard sharing a joint with a stranger, it was his, not mine. For '84 Augusta show: I remember the parking lot preshow, a friend weaving on a motorcycle, the hotel room afterwards, and for the show itself, just this: being with my very longtime friend sitting on the GA floor against the far back wall before the encore, hearing the first notes of Good Loving and rushing forward across an open and empty(?) area to a small crowded area in front of the stage, and being very close to the band. For '85 Riverbend, only this: intermission, somehow three of us were together standing in a triangle sharing a large, large size popcorn container full of beer, unable to speak. Well I love the music, you probably won't hear from me again. Hello to Oxford88 whom I knew way back when walls were supposed to hold you up (but sometimes didn't). Looking forward to getting these CDs.

I want to see more artwork!

Any idea when we'll get an update on this here Boxzilla?Or maybe we'll just have to find out when she arrives on our doorsteps..... o_0

Did someone say "Exit?"

Then I have no choice but to submit Pat Martino's "Exit" for your consideration. One of the greats.

And since jazz

has been invoked (ok, yes I invoked it, but never mind), can I also mention Bill Evans? In case you didn't know, "Everyone Digs Bill Evans." Even, to my surprise, Bob Weir in that Netflix documentary.

Warlocks

I think I'm going to grab it while I can.

Blossoms blooming

Geez is it just me dreaming of holding the boxilla close no matter what she looks like...peace

re: Coffee and Dantian

Coffee, very cool to hear your memories of those mid 80s shows. I regret missing those years but geography and other circumstances were working against me. Don't be a stranger around here. Dantian, your mention of Bill Evans inspired me put on Largo-Andante-Maestoso from the Symbiosis album as I head to bed. First heard this in the movie Sideways and was very impressed. I have a million things to listen to (and the box isn't even here yet) but I suppose I need to check out some Pat Martino--maybe a trip to the library tomorrow.

Rdevil

That's one I'm not familiar with. I'll have to check it out. Most of my Bill Evans comes from his early trio with Scott LaFaro and Paul Motian, with a few notable exceptions, such as the quintet on "Interplay," and some others. I've been meaning to delve more into his (mid-career, I guess you could call it) trio with Eddie Gomez and Marty Morell, but haven't gotten around to it yet. But a Bill Evans trio with an orchestra behind them (Symbiosis) does sound interesting...

Coffee and Jack

Coffee - I hope you'll continue to post, love the tour stories. Just have to keep drinking Jack Daniels I guess.

Huzzah!

Got my box ordered today!

@ Lowspark75

Congratulations! The Deadprayers worked.

Timing of Charges for Box Set

I have read various comments here that other than a short-term temp hold, charges wouldn't be processed until shipping next month. At least for me, that's not true. I placed an order early last week and the charge hit immediately and remain more than a week later. Is Rhino's policy written down somewhere?

"You'll get nothing and like it" is Rhino Policy Lol

Hey Found Sailor , what method of payment did you use Credit or Debit ? It should go down like this,, -Order Placed -Exact Funds are accessed and verified. It's basically like a pending charge that should drop off normally in 3-5 business days for Credit and Debit. -Exact charge will reappear when it ships. This time when it ships is when funds will be removed.. Gulp,, So if you are using a debit card. Make sure you are fully stocked when mid September comes around.

mbarilla

Well, that's a good question. The card can be used either way, and I don't believe I specified credit or debit (assumed the former, but should it make a difference in timing?). When all is said and done, I guess it doesn't matter. I have the dough in the account, but would always prefer to defer payment until the goods are enroute. I'm a late buyer (I vowed to my wife I wouldn't buy the box given the major $$ I ponied up to be in Chicago...including a 18000-mile round-trip flight from Singapore), and frankly, I'm just relieved to be on the receiving end of the offering ("My name is Richard and I'm a not-so-successfully recovering collector of Dead releases"). I keep reminding her that at least I don't frequent casinos or brothels! There are worse addictions.

Order Status

I would just like some comparison out of curiosity. Does everyone who ordered this have "backordered" stated under your order statuses for this item? And yes, I understand the box doesn't ship until Sep 18th or whatever.

@ Lowspark

My status says "backordered" however I was wondering the same thing.

@ Found Sailor

I used a debit card and it stayed in my pending transactions for about a week and then disappeared. I thought with a debit card they might just take the money at that time, but I was pleasantly surprised.

@lowspark, backordered

Hi lowspark - I think my previous pre-orders have said "backordered" in the past. Should be no worry..

We can improve Found Sailor's defense...

Honey, I just bought a $700 box of Grateful Dead recordings. You did whaaattttt!!!!!!!!??????????? Well, at least I didn't kill someone, get hooked on smack, screw your best friend, eat all the Tolenti gelato, etc., etc. Just trying to help out here. Maybe I'm not cut out for the alibi business....

@ Found Sailor

I am in recovery now, for almost 20 years, clean & sober. I always tell people that the Dead are now my only addiction and that this one will not kill me, but that my wife might if she ever found out just how much I really spend at Dead.net! Lol! Rock on

More Details Dave, it's been 65 Days since the Big Announcement

It's been sixty five days since the big announcement with only forty three days to go - we're over 60% there!!! Beyond the listening party, can you give us an unveiling party or another video discussing more in depth the criteria you chose? Since it's not from the "Dave's Picks" series, no seaside chat required, what about a talk from the vault? Or in the vault but not the dead cage, so you're almost in the vault??? Or on location at one of the locations of the show, like the Greek!!! I don't want to get a musical preview, want to absorb it one show at a time... That would be awesome!!!

Will usb folks get a digital copy of the book?

If I am paying the same as the box-set people for a digital copy, I think we should get the book or a digital copy of the book too right?

@ Yukon John - you do, digitally speaking!!!

73+ hours of music in FLAC (96/24) and 320 KBPS MP3s30 unreleased live shows, one for each year from 1966 to 1995 FLAC (96/24) and 320 KBPS MP3s of the 7-inch tracks "Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)" 1965/"Box Of Rain" Soldier Field, Chicago, 7/9/95 Digital 288-page book with an extensive, career-spanning essay by Nicholas Meriwether and special remembrances submitted by fans Digital scroll featuring a visual representation of the band's evolution

80 discs

1966 11967 1 1968 1 1969 2 1970 2 1971 2 1972 3 1973 3 1974 3 1975 2 1976 3 1976 3 1977 3 1978 3 1979 3 1980 3 1981 3 1982 3 1983 3 1984 3 1985 3 1986 3 1987 3 1988 3 1989 3 1990 3 1991 3 1992 3 1993 3 1994 3 1995 3 80 discs TOTAL

Dead & Company

I received an email from dead.net at 3:06am today regarding a Halloween concert at MSG, it's being billed as Dead & Company why isn't it up here on dead.net? It's not a "Fare Thee Well East" as I don't believe Phil or Trey are involved it appears to be Jon Mayer & Otiel Burbridge & Jeff Chimenti this time. Tickets go on sale to the general public August 14th, American Express Card members can purchase August 10th. Top tier tickets will be LESS than a $100.00!!!!!HAPPY THURSDAY DEADLAND!!!!!

Is it too late to get an AMX before the presale ?

These babies will sell out, hopefully I can score one,, any AMX cardholders want to buy an extra,, meet ya in NYC :) A friend of mine suggested to me yesterday morning before the news broke of Dead & Company to do a 3 day bang out like they did at Soldier Field once a year.. The date and venue would be subject to change..

Less than 45 days left and still not sold out??? whaaaaa

I still don't understand all the negativity going on. If you made it to FTW, you made it. If you were able to get Boxzilla, you got it. If you didn't get anything, just carry on. As for Dead & Co, if you don't like it, don't go. Leave the dancing to everyone else. I probably won't be able to make it to this Halloween show, but I'll catch them next time. Stop complaining already. 2015 had a little something for everyone, whether it was FTW, Boxzilla, this upcoming Dead&Co, the Meet-up at the movies, or even just a copy of DaP.

12/6/73 Road Trips Bonus Disc

Anyone have a copy of the 2011 Road Trips bonus disc containing highlights from 12/6/73 that they are willing to share? I honestly would be happy with a digital rip of the disc as I'm not willing to spend $150 on a single CD on ebay or amazon. I have a boatload of stuff to trade. PM me if you can help me out.

Negativity about 30 Trips

Topheraw,I think the negativity comes from the following math: 1 ("The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies") plus 2 ("Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This Dead.net exclusive is sure to sell out quickly") = 3 (give GDM $700 NOW or you can never have official versions of these 30 shows, a FEW of which you have been hoping to have ever since the archival release programs began back in the 90s.) It all depends on what $700 means to your life...

They're gonna be released digitally dude

I promise you. A lot of people missed out on a lot of great, limited official releases. Sure, you won't get a physical copy, or maybe not even on the 18th. But these shows will be released.

Probably so

Topheraw, I THINK you are right. I think GDM is keeping all options except individual cd releases open. But they are refusing to let us KNOW that.Looking at E72 makes you obviously correct. Looking at FW69 is not so reassuring. I feel like they are using fear as a marketing tool. Very uncool, man.

Yes and no, but probably yes haha

I don't fully understand why they haven't gone back and released 1969 digitally. Because it's so, so good. However, May 1977, Spring 1990 and TOO, all released. It's the smart thing to do on their part. Like I said before, it may not be available on the 18th, maybe not even until a couple months after that. But there's no way they'd deprive us of ALL of these shows.

Rehab

Been incarcerated since Nov 28 2014 and still am, just able to work now at least...I just snagged a copy and don't give a fuck what they do to me from this point on -_- Off paper by NYE. . . !!!!

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