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  • chicagobob
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    Hey Phat,.....You''ve gotta lot of splaining to do......
    chicago bob YOU JUST OPENED UP THE PROVERBIAL, PANDORA'S BOX. Got to give this some thought!!!!
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    You cant explain to them-thats part of what makes it so cool.
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    HOW DO YOU XPLAINE A DEAD SHOW?
    Hey all,Got a question for any one that cares to listen.... HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN A DEAD SHOW? I was wondering, ive tried to explain a grateful dead show to family, friends and co-worker, but all I can come up with is saying that its the kindest people you'll ever meet in the world. I try to talk alot about the music,but todays generation is more into the heavy metal or rap scene. So I guess what i'm asking is how do you explain to somebody thats never heard the music or been to a show what its like? Any feedback on this would be great! Peace Phatmoye
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    i think they ought to have a big Jerry/Buddha on the stage and after each song if the decibel meter doesn't redline from the cheers it should blow out a puff of smoke and say "hey!, what the fuck is this!" I love Bobby, Phil, Billy, and Mickey. I hope they make a billion dollars and then put on a big free concert this summer, preferably in the mountains in the middle of God's country here in Oregon! I'm glad they have another chance to play together and may our hope inspire them.
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    who cares!!!!! interesting read? my Gawd................
    chicago bob Is that rock gamer bullyock for real, does anyone think that Uncle John's Band is akin to KUMBAYA. That read is not interesting, is is blasphemous, and who cares, anyway. No more clutter, please.
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    problem w/ ticketmaster and their cheap seats is that they are only available for a short time on-line. chances are come sat. when they go on sale, a 1/2 hour in- they will tell you tix are no longer available and the will give you a link to TicketsNow -which will have plenty of tix at obscene prices
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    Answer The Trivia question right and get 2 tickets to the Forum show. W/possible upgrade to the 1st 5 rows. Broken heart don't feel so bad......You ain't got half of what you thought you had.
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    sell their rights to rhino records?
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    Everything below was taken from the following link: http://www.rockgamer.com/2009/01/21/more-grateful-dead-heading-to-rock-… Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:00 pm Posted in Rock Band, Rock Band DLC, Rumors Earlier this morning, IGN posted an article on a Grateful Dead Pack headed to the Rock Band Music Store. The article has since been pulled, so somebody, somewhere must have goofed. Unfortunately, this is the internet, and you can’t always take back something once it’s been posted. See the full article’s text below that lists all of the songs, as well as the writer’s opinion on whether or not you should consider the buy. Rock Band Refresh: Grateful Dead Pack Full of greatness or just plain grating? by Nate Ahearn January 20, 2009 - Every Tuesday, MTV Games and Harmonix release new downloadable tracks for Rock Band on Xbox Live Marketplace for your rocking pleasure. But before they hit the ‘Net, they hit the IGN offices. Each week we’ll announce the new tracks alongside our impressions of the new content. So check back weekly for the latest on what’s new, what’s hot and what’s worth a download. A pack that will strike a particular chord with San Francisco residents (where IGN is located), Grateful Dead brings their second Rock Band offering. The pack includes six songs spanning a wide breadth of Grateful Dead tunage. Tracks range from Cold Rain and Snow from 1967 all the way up through 1987’s Hell in a Bucket. While I’m personally not a fan of Grateful Dead’s brand of classic rock, there’s no denying their impact on the music industry. For that reason, it’s a good thing that the band has been given its due in its second Rock Band pack. While every instrument doesn’t perform perfectly on the whole pack, there’s at least one in each track that everyone should be able to enjoy. Cold Rain and Snow Price: 160 Microsoft Points ($1.99) Difficulty: Band 3 | Guitar 2 | Drum 3 | Vocals 1 | Bass 5 One of those super-rare tracks that provides a challenge for bass players. The rest of the instruments are serviceable, but the main guitar riff gets a little repetitive over time. It’s a fairly tough one, too. Like many of the tracks on this pack, Cold Rain and Snow is best enjoyed on hallucinogens. Verdict: Possible Download Doin’ That Rag Price: 160 Microsoft Points ($1.99) Difficulty: Band 4 | Guitar 2 | Drum 3 | Vocals 6 | Bass 4 No doubt, this is the toughest vocal song in the pack. Singers, be warned: the odd timber and pitch of the lyrics are very tough to emulate perfectly. There’s also a very tough and very long guitar solo that ends the song. Thankfully “Doin’ That Rag” does a good job of differentiating itself from the rest of the pack and is one of the best of the six. Verdict: Must Download Don’t Ease Me In Price: 160 Microsoft Points ($1.99) Difficulty: Band 3 | Guitar 3 | Drum 3 | Vocals 1 | Bass 4 If you can hammer-on and hammer-off, you should be fine. If you can’t, you’re screwed. Don’t be fooled by the moderate difficulty rating for the guitar, it’s pretty tough. The vocals, while not as challenging, are still fun thanks to the upbeat nature of the song. Verdict: Must Download Fire on the Mountain Price: 160 Microsoft Points ($1.99) Difficulty: Band 3 | Guitar 2 | Drum 4 | Vocals 0 | Bass 0 The drum portion, while the most difficult instrument in the song, is pretty unimaginative and repetitive, sadly. The same goes for the vocals and bass. The guitar part does a good job of working its way around the pad, but overall, “Fire on the Mountain” is unimpressive. Verdict: Don’t Download Hell in a Bucket Price: 160 Microsoft Points ($1.99) Difficulty: Band 4 | Guitar 3 | Drum 4 | Vocals 6 | Bass 3 My personal favorite of the songs on this pack. Every instrument is fast and fun with the vocals providing the biggest challenge. Playing both the guitar and drums is a physical challenge with reaches and quick movements required for both. If there’s one to get, in my opinion this is it. Verdict: Must Download Uncle John’s Band Price: 160 Microsoft Points ($1.99) Difficulty: Band 2 | Guitar 2 | Drum 3 | Vocals 0 | Bass 1 “Uncle John’s Band,” like the name might indicate to some, is a pretty ho-hum song. It’s about as close to singing “Kum Ba Yah” as Grateful Dead gets. The guitar has some difficult portions, but there’s much to it. If you can sing soothingly then you should be able to nail the peaceful vocals. Verdict: Possible Download
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    RE: $53 in Jersey
    Tis true..............also MSG will have tics for $54.50 come Saturday when they go on sale to the general public. You can look on Ticket Master's website.
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The band says Happy New Year with an announcement of almost twenty shows in April and May.  More details to come!

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Some people just want to get their money back.. "When the smoke has cleared she said, that's what she said to me. You're gonna want a bed to lay your head and a little sympathy"
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True about folks/heads wanting to get $ back - we have one xtra for 19th due getting charity tix - would love to sell or trade for a 4/18 seat.
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First Saturday night show for the tour in 2 Days!WOOO HOOO! Then Bicycle Day! Should be a awesome weekend!
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I'm so pumped for the upcoming shows....The setlist last night was amazing...can't wait to hear it. Dancin and Singin in the parking lot... ~peace~ _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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HEY NOW, I am lookin forward to MSG through 29th at the "izod"I am lucky enough to be in NYC and will see 3-4 shows! I will definetly be at the Denver show as well! (hometown). I Miss Jerry, but "if this ain't the real thing (well it kinda IS) then it's close enough to pretend!" I am doing a Hubpage (like a blog) on the tour , I would like to invite everyone to come and check it out! I would love to get some reviews, Picture, stories etc from all my fellow heads! here is the site: http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Dead-on-Tour-5-years-on-again-with-Warren-H… Gotta love that Warren! Cya on the tour Peace and light Mark
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I dont how I feel about this, but Donna's band is playing on Thursday night, the night before the Dead's Coliseum show. She will be in Wantagh, a stone's throw away from Uniondale. I dont know if she is scheduled to appear anywhere Friday night, but I wonder if she will be joining the boys for a song or two? "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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truckin to open lovelight to end set 2 attics of my life or the weight as an encore well also hear cumberland casey jones terrapin and the other one also theyll break out so many roads
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THAT PARKING LOT LOOKS LIKE HOME!!!!!!DAMN!!! I'm so inspired by that parking lot scene. Can't wait till Philly!!!!!!!:) 'All grace for instraments are known' Peace- Moye
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I LOVE the parking lot scene also!! My first show was in July of 1989 and I was amazed at how much fun that parking lot of RFK stadium in DC was!!! By the time the show had started I had made lots of new friends, eaten some corn cooked from a pot on a camp stove in one tent, sold a few veggie pitas from the back of our friend's car, paid a guy $2 to sing The Wheel on his guitar and give me a bracelette he had made, played someone's bongos like I was in the band myself, and many more things not to be mentioned:) GOOD TIMES!!!!!!!!!
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I have two pretty good seats for Nassau Colliseum (Section 204) on 4/24. I would like to swap for two comparable seats for MSG on 04/15. Anyone? Thanks!!
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Hey now Donna is playing in Missouri, camp zoe....Tonight Friday night, along with a little friend's band by the name of David Gans. Here is a link: http://www.campzoe.com/springjam5.html 17 Friday Springjam 5 Camp Zoe, Salem, MO 573 858-3333. Featuring the Schwag, The New Riders, Moon Alice, David Gans! 7:30 PM Tickets _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Thanks Canyon, but its next week that I was talking about. I checked her website and it appears she has nothing scheduled Fri or Sat night, when the Dead will be at Nassau and MSG. she will be in the area because she has a NJ gig scheduled for sunday. Although I was never a big Donna fan back in the day, it would be cool to see her on stage for a song or two. Maybe she can even shriek a little with Bobby in Playin in the Band for old time's sake. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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Yaknow, she takes a lot of flak, but every time I saw her with the boys she definitely added something positive. And there are some other songs that definitely weren't the same without her besides Playin, like Music Never Stopped, Row Jimmy and Sunshine Daydream. Admittedly Brent made a valiant effort, but they just weren't quite where it had been. Maybe it's because I didn't start going to shows until 77, dunno. I'm just sayin is all, just my opinion. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Terrapin….the only game in town © Ice Nine Publishing/Candymans Music
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The DEAD 4-17-09 Setlist (Set 1) Casey Jones Cold Rain and Snow New Minglewood Blues Into The Mystic West LA Fadeaway Brown Eyed Women Cumberland Blues (Set 2) Viola Lee Blues> Sugaree> The Other One> Drums> Space> Comes A Time> Unbroken Chain> Throwing Stones (Encore) Not Fade Away The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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Is fast approaching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TOO... flip back to the second to the last page on this forum topic, its the U-tube that Canynon Critter put up. Reminds me of home my brother. Sooo, whos going to Wilkes-barre? See you all there. I also see that the boyz played Viola lee blues last night, hope they save some of those faithful tunes for Wilkes-barre or the Philly run. 3 daze to Wilkes-barre and 12 till Philly......... 'All grace for instraments are known' Peace- Moye
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TOO... flip back to the second to the last page on this forum topic, its the U-tube that Canynon Critter put up. Reminds me of home my brother. Sooo, whos going to Wilkes-barre? See you all there. I also see that the boyz played Viola lee blues last night, hope they save some of those faithful tunes for Wilkes-barre or the Philly run. 3 daze to Wilkes-barre and 12 till Philly......... 'All grace for instraments are known' Peace- Moye
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And seal the crypt....! Sorry to be a buzz crusher, folks -- but the truth is spoken here. After seeing Albany last night and reading the review on the tour page I was wondering if I was at the same show. The music isn't really bad, it just ain't juicy anymore, more like opioid. Even though I got all jammed up before the show I fell asleep 3 times during, snoozing most peacefully during Warren Haynes' work during Sugaree. Don't get me wrong, I think he had some shining moments, it's not his fault somebody has a leash on him. Will be at Worcester tonight, hoping for the best. Tickets are going for $20-40 on the street. If you want a miracle, they aren't hard to come by, at least in New England.
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WARREN??? Nahh... 'All grace for instruments are known' Peace- Moye
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It's FINALLY here!! Yesterday I went and met the kind souls who Miracled my wife and I (very nice people) and they gave me my tickets for Worcester Tonight! "An evening with The Dead" Thank-you a million times over, K & D!!!! You guys ROCK!! Lamagonzo, Come on,man-You cant expect a rockin' show EVERY NIGHT!! You know how it is with The Dead--Up's and Down's--Just like LIFE--That's partly why we love them so much,They're not perfect nor do they pretend to be. Anyway,Phatmoye--Congrats on yer ticket score,PM me-Got somethin' to say. Also, Anyone Know what "Donor rap" is on the set lists? Id love to know...5 shows and no repeat songs yet!! Im calling Scarlet/Fire tonight in Worc!!!! It's 5 am and Im ready to GO!!! Anyone who was at last nights show have any tips for early arrival parking in near the DCU??
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To Me!!!!! 46 today, Buffalo on Tuesday, Thanks Honey, Mackenzie, and Michael.Anyone know if cameras are allowed in or do you have to sneak them? Peace
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The donor rap is Phil coming on stage and telling everyone to be organ donors.
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11 Daze to Philly run, just listened to last nights show. :)Simply Amazing!! Enjoy the show tonight friends. 'All grace for instraments are known' Peace- Moye
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I have to say i was not happy at all with the Albany show. First off we bought our tickets presale. The expensive seats. Where were they located section 228 row S. Where was that? The very top of the arena obstructed view of the stage. My review on buying seats presale. Do not do it. P.S. Ticket brokers suck. Ruining it for all of us. Legalized extorsion if you ask me ,but hey it continues to flourish, and nobody does a thing about it. Keep lining those fat wallets with our hard earned money. Thanks alot. Ticket brokers buy up most of the good tickets to profit off of, they arent Deadheads....their Dickheads Now about the show. The show did have highlights .....into the mystic west la,cumberland,sugaree,broken arrow,throwing stones and fade away but just way too much space. To much meandering on their instruments. I mean what kind of drugs did i need to be on to enjoy what was happening on stage. The second set was like listening to space forever . Dadadadadada...da da da da...daa...daa. ....daaa..dadadadada...daaaaa...daaa dadadadada....daaaadaaaa. I think you get the point give us a break. We came to sing,dance,reflect and enjoy the moment. I dont know if anybody enjoyed that . I saw people in the front row looking confused and like ....where is this going? Come on with the price of the ticket give us a real show for crying out loud. I couldnt tell if they were playing for the fans or themselves? I love Drums..... space i could do without .If i had my way i`d replace space with a few acoustic songs to give micky and bill a break. Hey Phil ! You Rock! Please give us another tour same lineup as last but ask Warren to come along for the ride. Warren you are definitely MVP candidate. Bring back Phil and Friends. Phils band has it going on. I saw them last summer a few times un-freaking-believable. Down to business Thankyou Phil for having your priorities straight. Hope things are better the rest of the tour . Albany didnt do it for me and my entourage
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Is anyone going ? It's The Dead, Doobie Brothers, and Allman brothers. Dream come true!!!!
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while the song selection was not the best, they did sound tight....I enjoyed the event myself....and my pre-sale tickets were Section 106 with a great view.from what I've been told, they were trying to not repeat any of the previous concerts songs. All in all...a good time to be had by all.
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if U missed these, 2 bad, I missed the DC show, next stop NJ and NY ....TRYIN 2 GET MESSAGE 2 HIPPY FRED, BUSTED IN VT AND VACATIONED AT CLUB FED WITH ME AT 3 RIVERS, TX -- '91 -'93 ISH ... ?
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ALOHA FROM MAUI -FAN SINCE LATE '60'S -FIRST SHOW IN NY. IN 70----ALL YER BITCHIN N MOANIN ABOUT THE MUSIC ---THEY A R E THERE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ENJOYED THEM T H E N AND THEY WILL CONTINUE............. IF YOU children WERE THERE THEN.......... OH WELL.........SMILE---CUZ----WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP IT'S BEEN----STOP BEING BACK SEAT CRITICS AND EAT SOMETHING FROM THE GROUND TO SMILE...........
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I will be at the Gorge...... I pick up the tour in Denver May 7th, and will also see the ABB in Oakland at the Fox theatre May 12 & 13. I am looking forward to seeing family & friends as well as new faces. As for all of the good seats being bought up by scalpers- I got my tix through GDTS TOO at regular price. I got 13th row sec CCC on the floor in Denver, and sec 102 row CC at Shoreline on 5/10. Looking at the charges on my credit card a couple of weeks ago, I got reserved at Shoreline on 5/14 as well as the Gorge on 5/16... They should be arriving shortly and I'd be willing to bet they will be really good seats as well. My only nose bleed seat I got through ticketbastard - It will be nice to sit with Jerry in LA that night and enjoy the show. Peaceful journey to everyone heading to the shows - enjoy it while it lasts - watch out for each other and please be safe driving home. We're gonna pitch a ball Down to the union hall We're gonna romp and stomp till midnight We're gonna fuss and fight till daylight We're gonna pitch a wang dang doodle all night long Shine On! Saint Stephen
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Getting on a plane today for 6 shows in 9 days! Life is so damn good!
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Last nights sets was amazing, I can't wait to hear the show. May all your 4/20/09 dreams come true Deadheads. Without love in the dream it will never come true! Chitown here we come two weeks baby! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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These have been wonderful shows. Sunday in Worcester was pure magic. Every song was done with passion. I haven't been to a show this good in years. And I'm being objective. I've seen everyone. Original Dead. Allmans. Mule. Derek Trucks. Widespread Panic. Phish. Sunday was the most magical show I've seen since an ABB show I saw in 2004. To those dissing Warren: what guitar player are you listening to? I can't believe what I'm hearing from him. Those who are comparing this to something else just can't get past their own hang-ups about God-knows-what. If you don't catch one or two of these gigs then you are truly missing out.
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Heres what I can remember from the Saturday and Sunday shows from WorcesterPlease add to this list if you can think of any I missed because I definitly missed a bunch dont to my mental state.=) Saturday: Goin Down the Road Feelin Bad Althea China Cat I know you rider CRAZY drum session Micky and Kreutz Trip out sesh for like 30-40 min maybe more An unbelievable rendition of Terrapin Station (full) One More Saturday Night (of course) Encored into: Johnny B. Goode Sunday: Jack-a-Roe Good Lovin' Minglewood Blues I cant get no Satisfaction Warren Haynes Blues song, unidentified Help on the Way/ Slipknot Jam session Bill Kreutzman & Micket Hart Drum Solo (sick) Drum solo electronic/ keyboard trip session into a full band trip session Jam into Scarlet Begonias Fire on The Mountain Shine Your Lovelight Encored with: Samson and Delilah Both shows were unbelievable. The energy in the DCU center was tremendous and the band was really getting into the show and the feel of the crowd in both shows. Warren Haynes may not be Jerry Garcia but this guy can play the guitar as good as anyone right now. He was truly masterful. Very long trippy jam sessions in both nights and some incredible drumming by both Mickey hart and Bill Kruetzman with Jeff Chimenti rippin the keys all night. I thoroughly enjoyed both nights. Heres to next years tour. Keep your fingers crossed.
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If you guys check the site from the road, greetings from Holland. Dutch Girl and I had an amazing 3 show spring break and I just wanted you to know that I am only sorry that I didn't get a chance to sign your banner in Albany (after we chatted late night in Charlottesville). By the way, did you guys enjoy the Into the Mystic/West LA Fade Away as much as we did? Sweet. Cheers, Ragged Robin (once upon a time Easter, viva Resurrection Tour)
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For context, I'm a 60+ GD show guy who's also seen another 50+ post-Jerry dead-related shows. Sunday in Worcester was a monster show. Honestly, I didn't have very high expectations for this tour but went in with an open mind and came away impressed and very glad I went. For me this was the best GD-family show I've seen since the 2001 PLQ which I absolutely loved. Very much a team effort, not a Bobby-rock star show. Bobby had a few senior-moments but also stepped up big at times and for the most part he was very focused. The more obscure stuff like Cream Puff War and Born Cross Eyed sounded very 1960's style like the first album. Phil and the drummers were as locked in as it gets all night (Mickey and Bill haven't lost a step in the least) and the best segments were when Bobby dialed in with them for minutes at a time while Warren ripped off successions of tasty licks that danced and teased in, out and around the melodies. This band obviously rehearsed quite a bit and there was a sense of having something to prove, as if they were saying "this isn't just a nostlaga trip, we can still bring it". As was always the case the Centrum is a dump with inadequate vending and bathrooms but it still felt good to be back there seeing a Dead show. I really loved this show and I wish I was going to another on this run.
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Go Bobby....you boyz rock! Can't wait for Chitown! ~peace~ _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Thanks again to GDTS TOO!!! I got my ticket today for The Gorge - sec A row 14!!!! We're gonna pitch a ball Down to the union hall We're gonna romp and stomp till midnight We're gonna fuss and fight till daylight We're gonna pitch a wang dang doodle all night long Shine On! Saint Stephen
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2 Daze to Wilkes-Barre:) Caynon Critter, Nice U-tube!!Lastnights show sounds tremendsly excellent!! Peace- Moye
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Canyon Critter, thanks so much for the post of the video from Charlottesville. This was my 12 year old son Josh's first Dead show. He's a huge fan of the "Gloria" from Dick's Picks 21. We were high fiving and going crazy when the boys started playing this for the encore. A very special memory for both of us and watching the video brought back the moment. Peace to you and many thanks!
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We thought the Worcester shows were terrific! Sat night was great - then Sun night was 10 times better - exceeded all expectations!Gratefultwinz - you called it on the Scarlet/Fire - magnificent! Sat night there was a Metal Madness show at the Palladium down the street, so it was really a fun people-watching experience between the deadheads and the metalheads - the streets of Worc were a crazy place to be! I can't believe some of the negative reviews/comments about the shows on the Other Ones site; it makes me wonder if I (or they) are living in an alternate universe. One person said the first set Sun night was so bad that he left during the set break, and we thought it was so good that our butts barely touched our seats, and it seemed like it was over in a flash! I'm grateful that my cup is usually half full, and this past weekend it was overflowing!
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What time have the shows started? They have on the ticket 7:30 but I know thats not always correct. shows attending: NC - 4/24 MSG - 4/25 IZOD - 4/28
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I have to agree with you. From what I have seen (YouTube clips) and heard of this tour so far (I have all but Albany on my computer), they sound really good, much more tight than their last tours in 2004 and 03. I am not even a big Warren fan but he is nailing it, sounding really fricking good! I read terrible reviews of the Ratdog tour all last summer and I have to admit they made me wonder but then I went and saw Ratdog for myself and was blown away. I just don't understand how it could be so bad you would walk out at the end of the first set sheesh! I have sat through some horrific concerts in my time and never felt the need to storm out early let alone with this tour, I mean Sundays show from what I have heard simply just rocks... I'm not sure what people are expecting?? I for one cannot wait to jump on the bus when it stops in Denver. See y'all on the road! "When the smoke has cleared she said, that's what she said to me. You're gonna want a bed to lay your head and a little sympathy"
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JackStraw,I hope your Denver experience matches our Worc experience! Beaver64, Our shows started pretty promptly at 7:45, although we had expected 8:00 or later.
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Man oh Man am I ready to shake off the dust and boogie with the masses............WHeeeeee
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The shows on Saturday and Sunday started at about 7:45.
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Hi everyone. We bought a package for two for Wilkes Barre and it is nonrefundable. We are stuck in FL and will not be able to make the show. Package was paid for months ago and it includes two tickets in good section, room at the Fairfield Inn paid in full, and shuttle from room to show and back. If you are going and don't have your accommodations or tix already or even if you have a friend who needs a ticket. We really don't want these tickets to go unclaimed and our seats to be empty (how sad). Absolutely no scalpers please, you ruin it for all of us! Email if interested at a.mcnulty@hotmail.com.