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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    RE: Flacing and Aflacking,,,sorry ALAC...
    Wavs would be fine, except for the space thing, these particular flac files are backups that have already been created and already playable on non apple or Itunes systems. Just to be clear, the entire circulating 30 years of GD in Flac/shn is about 5 TB, it's over 10 TB in wav format, both are lossless, and it seems not easily playable in ITunes. To get from the already lossless flac or SHN files on the HDs to a listenable format requires conversion to an acceptable file type used by the individuals player. Why people use certain systems is personal choice, I'm just trying to find a way of taking what we have on HD and making it more user friendly to people that feel most comfortable in ITunes. My questions are to find a simple way to allow Itunes users to access the goodies that are in circulation, but not supported by the apple ecosystem. It seems like it is an option though time consuming, my idea is that if it's that much of a chore, maybe sharing ALAC files would be a way of avoiding duplication of efforts. I'm thinking of vines specifically made for ITunes users.
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    Flac and Wav
    If I have to convert, I usually leave it was .wav as well. I know its a big waste of disc space.. but...
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    Flac etc.
    wjonjd, mac will play WAV just fine. I keep my better quality files as WAV. XLD Lossless Decoder (Mac only) is free (although I donated $10 b/c I've been using it for years). It will perfectly transcode between all lossless formats and will also do sample rate conversions, etc. and is highly customizable. Written by some genius in Japan. Anyway, been great chatting with everyone, but now I'm out of here for a while, although no doubt I'll look in from time to time. Life rears it's ugly head, must focus on work etc.
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    Flacing and Aflacking (loved that)
    People convert to flac because they are about 50% the size of the original wav or aiff file, yet when played decompress bit for bit to the original wav or aiff for playback. "Wouldn't .wav be best,,, it is non compressed, right". It's not best, if by that you mean better than flac. That's the point of lossless compression. They are ultimately identical, with flac taking up half the space. That's the difference between "lossless" compression, which decompresses bit for bit identically to the original, vs "lossy" compression like mp3 and aac, which throw out information forever to get much smaller files, typically only 10-20% of the original size. When they decompress for playback, they are NOT identical to the original wav or aiff that made them. Apple will not play .wav, but it plays .aiff which is basically the same thing, just in an envelope recognized by apple software.
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    Flacing and Aflacking,,,sorry ALAC...
    Why convert them at all, why not just leave them as a .wav file? The file size is not that much different, right? Wouldn't .wav be the best,,, it is non compressed, right?Will apple play a .wav file?
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    @KayakGuy again :)
    Wait!!! I just checked, and foobar2000, which is free, will convert from Flac to Apple Lossless (alac), or Apple's lossy compressed format (aac), or Apple's version of wav (aiff), but you need to also download their Free Encoder Pack. However, there is no Mac version. To use this to get the files onto a Mac you must do the conversion in Windows, and then transfer the files to a Mac. All the converters I saw that will go from Flac to ALAC directly on the Mac are paid software, but perhaps someone can find a free one.
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    Yes, exactly. I'm not sure of a tool to go straight from flac to alac. I'm going to look and will edit this post if i find something :) Edit: i just checked and dbPowerAmp will convert directly from flac to Apple Lossless. This program is not free. I think i paid $18 for it, but that was a while ago. They do have a fully functional 21 day trial download. The program comes with several built in formats and they supply downloadable codecs for other formats, but flac and Apple Lossless and several others are built-in, i think. I also have Trader's Little Helper, but this program does not seem to have an option to convert to Apple Lossless, although mybe they have a codec for it - i didnt check and its not built-in. Edit2: i just checked, and dbPowerAmp comes in versions for both Windows and Mac. It is $39 for a single license or $58 for 2-5 installs. The $18 i paid may have been rhe price to upgrade to a newer version, but that was years ago.
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    There is another active thread on dead.net - no!!!! do not go looking for it, i implore of you kind participants, lest you take up thine holy meat cleaver and onst a bloody rampage wouldst thou embark upon - and i would like to commend jrf68 and ststephen71 for their wit and restraint, but most especially Ziffle who wrote out a most honest, reasoned, and patient response to the evidently deceased mascot of a flaky corn based breakfast sugar. Ziffle, i am humbled - nay, i stand slack jawed in awe, filled with fear and trembling - at the display of superhuman self control. Several times i thought of responding myself to this Anthony Of Another Thread, and each time i stopped myself knowing that i had not the strength to write thereupon without my head exploding, surely ending in Anthony's premature demise (although he does claim to have already made the journey of the Styx.) Hats off to ya!!!! :):)
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    flac files info
    Thanks for the info, my friend will be happy for the help. I think it's only the PC version that is involved in the transfers so far. So, if ALAC is lossless then the circulating SHN/Flac collection could be transferred to this format for sharing to this ITunes using community? Seems like a lot of work for a single player, but if people do the work to transfer the existing files to ALAC, then maybe they could share their work and build a collection of ALAC versions of the shows for ITunes specific playback. One more question, is there an easy way to to get from FLAC to ALAC without the wav step?
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    ....funny that numbness would be something someone would pay for....bad bad stuff. Was fun for a bit, but will grab you by the balls.... Stay kind my friends....
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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I think this one is a sleeper for the best show in the box. A dream set list for me: 1982 - 7/31, Manor Downs, Austin, TX -Promised Land is rocking, Jerry does a killer Bird Song, he flubs the first chorus in Brown Eyed Women but I still love it, a funky Scarlet>Fire and Morning Dew is epic. One hell of a 3 hour show! =Set One= 01. Tuning 02. Alabama Getaway -> 03. Promised Land 04. Candyman 05. Tuning 06. El Paso 07. Bird Song -> 08. Little Red Rooster 09. Ramble on Rose 10. It's All Over Now 11. Brown Eyed Women -> 12. Music Never Stopped 13. Deal =Set Two= 14. Scarlet Begonias -> 15. Fire on the Mountain -> 16. Estimated Prophet -> 17. Eyes of the World -> Jam -> 18. Drums -> 19. Space -> 20. Uncle John's Band -> 21. Truckin' -> 22. Morning Dew -> 23. One More Saturday Night =Encore= 24. Don't Ease Me In
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I agree with you 420bandito. This is an epic show and a frequent listen to my audience tape for the past 32 years (man has it been that long?!) always brings a smile to my face. This is the eve or Jerry's Birthday and the crowd is so psyched and yelling "Happy Birthday" from UJB on. The Second Set is just so hot!
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there is a soundboard available for this show. It is quite epic.
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12/26/81
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Waiting to see the visuals on this...
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hey bandito420,have you seen show on youtube?jerry was hotter than the texas wind that nite.been watching this show before being announced in box set. gonna be nice to have quality audio out-
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....may be the first selection I pick. May not see another '86 release in my lifetime so there you go. The Comes A Time listening party track reinforces my belief. Haven't heard the Copps '92 show, but I would have picked any of the Vegas shows in it's place.....I may be biased in that choice though....
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26 days until The Box that ROX ships!!!!!
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Can someone please explain to me why some of the daves picks albums appear un-numbered?
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...is how they will have dealt with 'severe dropout problems' from the PCM masters on (at least) the '85 show. I thought the 10-21-83 show was also derived from a beta PCM master, but I'm not sure on that. I guess we'll see. After so many fantastic releases, I am faithful they will have done a fine job patching this one up. Also, I have not been partaking in the listening parties so I do not know what if anything from Riverbend, Augusta or Worcester they have sampled thus far. I want to listen with virgin ears. Primary source info. here:http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/june-18-june-24-2007
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~ buzzed right nów, it's been a goood Saturday Night! 81-85 to me is epic GD, there is something special there for me. I dunno but Jerry's guitar makes some trippy listening :) I am so looking forward to the unvailing of the mega box! Enjoy the ride folks Peace
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Check out 8/6/82 St Paul. Listen to Space about 2 minutes before Truckin starts -- there's a jam based on both The Other One and THE ELEVEN! The Other One played over 11 beats! Very cool!
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For those of you who own both 'The Golden Road' & 'Beyond Description' box sets, you can make up a 'Proto 30 Trips' by adding ALL of the bonus material from each of the releases, even the live albums ( 'Live Dead', 'Skull & Roses', 'Reckoning' & 'Dead Set'. I left off 'Europe 72 since it's already well represented) onto 1 playlist and arranging everything chronologically. It makes for a great overview of the band as well as "UPPING" the psyche factor for the Mother Box.
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I was given the impression that there would be "follow ups" to the original video that Dave did posted describing this box. Any idea where it is posted???Mr. Pete------> aging hippie
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25 days until ALPHA BOX!!!!
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I love the early 80s. The folk songs were especially sweet then, such as Jack-a-roe and Peggy-o. Best period for these. 7/18/76 is my favorite unreleased show ever. The second set is so hot, it's one of those moments that's simply better than anything imaginable, except maybe that one Dark Star...you know the one ;)
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Please, please, someone please, correct me...... is there not a single Box Of Rain on this release?
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There's just one -- the encore from 7/9/95 that's included as a single.
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Box of Rain is on the single - good news for those of us who are vinyl heads - not such good news for those without a deck. Sadly there is however on CD the following tracks - Dough Knees, Day Job and Way to Go Home - I also have a horrible feeling there's a samba in the rain there too...still at least we don't have to suffer a Wave to the Wind (unless that's on the bonus disc lol). As for the Box video reveal - we've seen and heard nothing....makes me think that there'll be a delayed shipping email soon - if it's not already in post-production and ready for a reveal by now - it will be delayed.... Maybe they'll delay and throw in the crappy FTW box as a 'bonus' - in which case I'll take Wave to the Wind instead lol....
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24 days until KING box ships!!!!!!!
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....almost pulled a muscle picking the package up off the front porch. This is gonna suck up a LOT of my free time for a while. Good thing I just got a new pair of no line bifocals last month!!....
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23 days until GARGANTUA ships!!!!!
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...keep the thesaurus readily available, as yours is the first countdown that's inspired an electric current of Christmasy anticipation since the first week of January when I stood at the site's darkened windows wondering whether anyone was still home! Though, all is shortly to be forgiven... Incidentally, I dreamed of 30 Tripz last week; well, rather a nightmare - the kind you have/had incident to nervous anticipation of exam week at university. I'd received the box - a cheaply constructed affair with a glossy veneer peeled in many places to reveal pabulum brown cardboard beneath - and immediately noticed shows missing as well as caramel - yes, caramel - on the 7 inch single that I removed from a plastic sheath and carried out into a grey rainfall thinking to clean it off, at which time I awoke in a cold sweat. True story (except for a bit of hyperbolic cliche with the "cold sweat" business). I wasn't wed to the necessity of a video unveiling, but sound slumber may dictate I join the growing chorus of petitioners.../peace, K
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thanks for the link Fennario....very cool
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The box will certainly be reusable as a nice chest if anyone is so inclined!
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Today on page A7, a full page advertisement announcing that "DEAD & COMPANY are going to be performing at The Wells Fargo Center here in Philly, my question is this; is it an American Express ad or a DEAD & COMPANY ad, doesn't matter as I WILL BE GOING!!! Maybe they'll recreate 9/21/72 in it's entirety WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING!!!!! It's a beautiful ad by the way as it is quite poster worthy. AMEX Presale 8/26 @10am TO 8/27 @ 10pm Public on sale Friday, August 28 at 10AM HAPPY TUESDAY DEADLAND!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you for the link! I was hoping for a peak inside the box, but the exterior shots are awesome. Boxzilla looks better than I imagined. I'm listening to creampuff as I type this on headphones. The mix is interesting. Jerry's vocals are 100% on the left speaker only and pig's organ are 90% on the right speaker. Jerry's guitar is also much heavier on the right. Not my favorite dead mix, but it really shows how focused on psychedelica they were at this time. I can't wait for this box!!!
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I saw my nephew who's now in LA and he had heard from very good sources that they're doing 7 or 8 cities. I asked if they were doing Boston, he did not know. Here's hoping they play there!!! Wow nice pictures of the boxset - hopefully that's real wood and not veneer (or paper) on cardboard. Now I want to see the unveiling - only 200 copies left (according to the main page).
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How come that wasn't shown here first before we see it somewhere else? yes, that box looks awesome! I just hope if it comes and I'm not home nobody steals it!!!! My big paranoia. Great listening party! Keep em coming! Certainly looking forward to this box set!
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After seeing this I'm not sure if the name "Boxzilla" still fits... Boxzilla sounds so big and fierce. Sure it's big, but maybe a little more dainty than fierce. "Boxarella," or "Big Box Mama?" Don't get me wrong... I really like the art. I think it captures the free-spirit celebration that is the Grateful Dead show. Only seeing three sides (2 sides and top), I'm imagining that the four sides are each a season to represent winter, spring, summer and fall tours (fall and summer shown here). Again, really want to see the inside and how the CDs are cased.
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That looks so nice. Now it would be nice to see some scroll photos, maybe a glance at how the CDs are housed. Are they Digipacks or in sleeves? Just a single show out of the box on a table.
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I think it looks great, I thought it was going to be some shabby box judging from the picture here. A black box with that who care image. But I like the look of the toy chest,, it will look on the shelf next to the other box sets! :-) You spend a chunk for these box sets, I want them to look good.
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Not to ruffle any feathers but this box looks BETTER than the trunk E72 was housed in.As for a name I like GARGANTUA it fits as the box alone is GARGANTUAN, & I too would like to see just how the shows are packaged. Just think if TPTB show us exactly what GARGANTUA contains it SELLS OUT, if I didn't already preorder I believe I would just based on the box itself, if the box looks that good you know the contents look GREAT. PLEAE PLEASE PLEASE let's see the contents!!!!
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Got my deadbase50 today. I know have so much info to enjoy. Hard to believe that set lists could make me so excited. I got to see the box today and can't wait until I have it show up at my house. I have misses out on the last few box sets and so grateful that I am getting this one.
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this new big box is revealed as a true work of art, and obvious fine companion to the europe '72 trunk - they both are just exactly perfect!...
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The artwork looks cool so far, from what we've seen. Though the names of the band members written on the bottom is not only unnecessary, it detracts from the aesthetic presentation of the box. In my opinion, a poor artistic choice. Then again, maybe we don't know the names of the band members, and we can look at the box to be reminded. As it turns out, the decision to include those names is courtesy of the Road Trips Packaging Commitee and the United Boxcutters of America.
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I may be in favor of the RT packaging (am I one of the few?), but I am definitely against box cutter samurais! Be more careful with the blades people!P.S. Box concept looks nice! Names to include Bruce, Tom, Vince, Brent, Donna Jean, Keith? Is there room?
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Was just thinking how much prettier the Mona Lisa would look if the words Mona Lisa were drawn in big letters across the bottom of the painting. This is the effect the names written on the bottom of this box has to me. A beautiful picture- a gorgeous box, and then these huge distracting words at the bottom. Anyways, just my two cents. Probably should have kept the criticism to myself.
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I REALLY REALLY hope this gets packed with grate care.......this will be coming to Australia soon and will take pride of place in my study with all my other Dead, ABB etc. box sets.... PLEASE Rhino pack this with care.....it has so many roads to travel............ Now WHAT's inside......what's the goodies...... PS I have for sale the DELETED and RARE complete 2013 numbered Allman Brothers Band live tour box set - retailed at 699$US - I'm selling for $799US plus shipping from Oz to USA - a one-time offer as I've seen this set go on ebay for over $1000US.... Also Dead May 1977 box for sale for $350US - shipping included
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Since the box itself appears to be high, it might house 2 levels - 15 shows each level - if you take 15 DaP's and group them together and then double that area you can get the idea. It still leaves room for the book and any extras. Hopefully it'll be DaP cases vs. those sh*tty Road Trips digipacks.
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....reading DeadBase 50. Woke up a couple of hours later with it resting on my chest. No wonder it was hard to breathe. Thought I cracked my sternum! Love, love, love this tome. I found out a few minutes ago that David Crosby sat in on the second half of the second set during the 9.10.72 Hollywood Palladium show. Jumped right to it on relisten.net and am checking it out now. Who knew? I sure as hell didn't....priceless....
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....hey Dave, I posted a similar 30 Trips box interior set up on the Nashville board a few minutes ago. I, however, think it will be only one level of discs as opposed to stacked. Is the box high? Or those of us buying it?.... ....double post. Sorry. I haven't done That in a while....
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....hey Dave, I posted my thoughts on the 30 Trips box interior set up on the Nashville board a few minutes ago. I, however, think it will be only one level of discs as opposed to stacked. Is the box high? Or those of us buying it?....
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Box looks great - and the shows speak for themselves - but got a feeling we'll be a little let down on 'extras' - I think it's the book and scroll - that's it..... Not that I need the secret compartment and hidden coin (Other one TOO) or backstage pass replicas.....I'd want real extras (a photobook like the McCartney remasters), bonus discs, downloadable content card, a visual counterpart (i.e. dvd of last ever show), something more I'd actually use....however it will be what it will be...was disappointed as hell with lack of extras on Europe box but the music made up for it - I'm sure that will be the case here (exclusing Dough Knees, Day Job, Samba in the Rain etc...)
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