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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    mbarilla, in the liner notes in Dave's 6, Dave references the reels returned by Janet Cohen which completed 4 fantastic shows from late 69/early 70. Two of those shows were represented on Dave's 6 and a third was Dave's 10. This leaves a fourth show. Dave says there is a show which has a fantastic Dark Star with Phil providing "unusual" noises, and the show contains great versions of Morning Dew, The Eleven, and That's It For the Other One; plus much more! Dave 10 contained none of these tunes. The bonus disc has 3 of the 4 songs above mentioned, but no Morning Dew and of course, not a completed show. My guess based on that setlist the pick would be from Fall 69'. However, wonder since we got Da 10 last year, they might wait till the first or second release for next year to bring it out from the mystical caverns of the vault.Check out the notes and see if you come up with the same conclusion. Now the question is will an archive setlist contain all 4 of these songs, or will some of the material be unknown because of a missing reel or reels? Sam T
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    I've responded to half a dozen people who posted that they wanted to trade for some of the individual copies of 30 Trips, since they can't afford it. Three of them (50%) didn't actually have anything they were willing to give up, and offered to burn me copies of what I was asking for in return for the 30 Trips CDs I am not interested in. Really? I'm trying to help YOU, not the other way around. Please don't waste people's time and ask for a trade when you don't really have anything you want to give up. The nerve of some people.
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    The Duke and the Dead have a lot in common in a way, not musically of course. Stable core line up with some changes over the years. Constantly touring. Basic core set list used as jamming vehicles. Unseen songwriting genius (Billy Strayhorn-Robert Hunter). Any Dead Head not familiar with the Duke should at least check him out.
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    …I learned the hard way on the E72 Box and couldn't let the 30 Trips box pass by… I placed my order last Thursday. It went right through and it took about 2 min to receive my confirmation email. $700 is no small expenditure. And this is no small offering. But for less than $9/disc, there is some outrageously good material in this set. The Shrine Expo was my first bootleg, and if the sound quality of the Morning Dew sample is indicative of the rest, this show alone is a treasure. The shows for 68, 69, 70 and 71 are all powerful and have many, many moments of the rolling thunder that these years are famous for (check them out on Archive). The other shows are all well documented in many online forums and, while opinions will always be what they are, there is a lot to like in each one of these shows. And considering that Jeffery Norman and associates will have had their hand in editing and adjusting the sound from the source recordings for all 30 shows, I’m looking forward fidelity that’s up to his high standards. David Limeaux was on Sirius this morning w/ Gans & Lambert. He explained, it some depth, the cost structure of these releases. Things like artist royalties and production cost are huge parts of the price. At one point he indicated that, after all the costs, the releases are slightly better than breakeven for Rhino. He also talked about how they learned from the E72 release and also how long it took to sell out the Spring 90 sets. I trust that he would not misrepresent or mischaracterize these things, and it helped explain some of the questions on things like the limited offer and releasing individual shows. Form many of us, Grateful Dead music is in our sonic DNA and resonates like no other. I love the Grateful Dead and their music. And I’ve accepted that the Grateful Dead are gone and that their recorded music is now part of a multi-million dollar business transaction. Rhino paid a handsome price for its rights to the vault- we can be sure they will try to sell as much as they can however they can. And I personally hope they continue to do so. I don’t always like every release that comes out (or the way that some of them have come out). While I have most of the releases, there are some I chose not to buy. Are there other shows I wish I saw in the 30 Trips box set? Of course!! I’d love to have seen 11/5/85 (shakedown, supplication, tom thumb), or 9/2/68 (the raspberry farm!), or 3/26/87 (bird song, desolation, china-rider) and a slew of others. But they will come. For now, I’m looking forward to sitting outside on a fine autumn day in September… Santa Clara, Chicago, and all the other hype will be over, and I will be cranking up the volume on the on the sonic journey that this box set memorializes. And loving THE GRATEFUL GODDAMNED DEAD!!!!
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    The Duke:Complete Works 1924-1947 now over $200 used on Amazon. I bought it years ago for almost nothing. Sorry.
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    The Duke. Edward Kennedy Ellington and His Orchestra. 40 CD box set on History label. Greatest bargain in CD history.
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    SAMTHARDMAN , any specific dates Fall 1969 and 76'
    I would be ecstatic if either era is released. From my Birthday month, here is 3.3.81.. China > Rider,,, Silky smooth from Captain Trips,, this one floats https://archive.org/details/gd1981-03-03.123978.sbd.miller.flac16
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    9.11.73 , for the Record, I am all for these shows
    In my skull splitter spindle set, a portion 9.11.73 was included. It rocks. JimInMD, I will have to revisit the Morning Dew,, but I do not remember any cuts or patches.. As expected, 6.10.73 portion was just on Sirius. Eyes through HCS. And a teaser for tomorrow will be music recorded in the Aloha State from 1970.. Get your popcorn ready for this one.. Could be some uncirculated material. Or another healthy dose of a 1970, That's It For The Other One
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    Sure you have to wait a couple extra tunes for them to get to the Franklins but its worth the wait!
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    Dave 15 and 16 will be Fall 69' and 76'. Just one man's opinion. I do agree; maybe 73'. My guess would be 6/10/73, but that could be released much like 8/27/72. Oh, we are blessed! Minas, how dare you stir up controversy! How would you feel if you were born in January? You might just think they were picking on you. Bet you were born in September. Smile, smile, smile! Sam T
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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I think this one is a sleeper for the best show in the box. A dream set list for me: 1982 - 7/31, Manor Downs, Austin, TX -Promised Land is rocking, Jerry does a killer Bird Song, he flubs the first chorus in Brown Eyed Women but I still love it, a funky Scarlet>Fire and Morning Dew is epic. One hell of a 3 hour show! =Set One= 01. Tuning 02. Alabama Getaway -> 03. Promised Land 04. Candyman 05. Tuning 06. El Paso 07. Bird Song -> 08. Little Red Rooster 09. Ramble on Rose 10. It's All Over Now 11. Brown Eyed Women -> 12. Music Never Stopped 13. Deal =Set Two= 14. Scarlet Begonias -> 15. Fire on the Mountain -> 16. Estimated Prophet -> 17. Eyes of the World -> Jam -> 18. Drums -> 19. Space -> 20. Uncle John's Band -> 21. Truckin' -> 22. Morning Dew -> 23. One More Saturday Night =Encore= 24. Don't Ease Me In
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I agree with you 420bandito. This is an epic show and a frequent listen to my audience tape for the past 32 years (man has it been that long?!) always brings a smile to my face. This is the eve or Jerry's Birthday and the crowd is so psyched and yelling "Happy Birthday" from UJB on. The Second Set is just so hot!
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there is a soundboard available for this show. It is quite epic.
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12/26/81
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Waiting to see the visuals on this...
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hey bandito420,have you seen show on youtube?jerry was hotter than the texas wind that nite.been watching this show before being announced in box set. gonna be nice to have quality audio out-
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....may be the first selection I pick. May not see another '86 release in my lifetime so there you go. The Comes A Time listening party track reinforces my belief. Haven't heard the Copps '92 show, but I would have picked any of the Vegas shows in it's place.....I may be biased in that choice though....
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26 days until The Box that ROX ships!!!!!
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Can someone please explain to me why some of the daves picks albums appear un-numbered?
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...is how they will have dealt with 'severe dropout problems' from the PCM masters on (at least) the '85 show. I thought the 10-21-83 show was also derived from a beta PCM master, but I'm not sure on that. I guess we'll see. After so many fantastic releases, I am faithful they will have done a fine job patching this one up. Also, I have not been partaking in the listening parties so I do not know what if anything from Riverbend, Augusta or Worcester they have sampled thus far. I want to listen with virgin ears. Primary source info. here:http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/june-18-june-24-2007
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~ buzzed right nów, it's been a goood Saturday Night! 81-85 to me is epic GD, there is something special there for me. I dunno but Jerry's guitar makes some trippy listening :) I am so looking forward to the unvailing of the mega box! Enjoy the ride folks Peace
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Check out 8/6/82 St Paul. Listen to Space about 2 minutes before Truckin starts -- there's a jam based on both The Other One and THE ELEVEN! The Other One played over 11 beats! Very cool!
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For those of you who own both 'The Golden Road' & 'Beyond Description' box sets, you can make up a 'Proto 30 Trips' by adding ALL of the bonus material from each of the releases, even the live albums ( 'Live Dead', 'Skull & Roses', 'Reckoning' & 'Dead Set'. I left off 'Europe 72 since it's already well represented) onto 1 playlist and arranging everything chronologically. It makes for a great overview of the band as well as "UPPING" the psyche factor for the Mother Box.
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I was given the impression that there would be "follow ups" to the original video that Dave did posted describing this box. Any idea where it is posted???Mr. Pete------> aging hippie
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25 days until ALPHA BOX!!!!
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I love the early 80s. The folk songs were especially sweet then, such as Jack-a-roe and Peggy-o. Best period for these. 7/18/76 is my favorite unreleased show ever. The second set is so hot, it's one of those moments that's simply better than anything imaginable, except maybe that one Dark Star...you know the one ;)
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Please, please, someone please, correct me...... is there not a single Box Of Rain on this release?
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There's just one -- the encore from 7/9/95 that's included as a single.
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Box of Rain is on the single - good news for those of us who are vinyl heads - not such good news for those without a deck. Sadly there is however on CD the following tracks - Dough Knees, Day Job and Way to Go Home - I also have a horrible feeling there's a samba in the rain there too...still at least we don't have to suffer a Wave to the Wind (unless that's on the bonus disc lol). As for the Box video reveal - we've seen and heard nothing....makes me think that there'll be a delayed shipping email soon - if it's not already in post-production and ready for a reveal by now - it will be delayed.... Maybe they'll delay and throw in the crappy FTW box as a 'bonus' - in which case I'll take Wave to the Wind instead lol....
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24 days until KING box ships!!!!!!!
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....almost pulled a muscle picking the package up off the front porch. This is gonna suck up a LOT of my free time for a while. Good thing I just got a new pair of no line bifocals last month!!....
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23 days until GARGANTUA ships!!!!!
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...keep the thesaurus readily available, as yours is the first countdown that's inspired an electric current of Christmasy anticipation since the first week of January when I stood at the site's darkened windows wondering whether anyone was still home! Though, all is shortly to be forgiven... Incidentally, I dreamed of 30 Tripz last week; well, rather a nightmare - the kind you have/had incident to nervous anticipation of exam week at university. I'd received the box - a cheaply constructed affair with a glossy veneer peeled in many places to reveal pabulum brown cardboard beneath - and immediately noticed shows missing as well as caramel - yes, caramel - on the 7 inch single that I removed from a plastic sheath and carried out into a grey rainfall thinking to clean it off, at which time I awoke in a cold sweat. True story (except for a bit of hyperbolic cliche with the "cold sweat" business). I wasn't wed to the necessity of a video unveiling, but sound slumber may dictate I join the growing chorus of petitioners.../peace, K
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thanks for the link Fennario....very cool
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The box will certainly be reusable as a nice chest if anyone is so inclined!
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Today on page A7, a full page advertisement announcing that "DEAD & COMPANY are going to be performing at The Wells Fargo Center here in Philly, my question is this; is it an American Express ad or a DEAD & COMPANY ad, doesn't matter as I WILL BE GOING!!! Maybe they'll recreate 9/21/72 in it's entirety WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING!!!!! It's a beautiful ad by the way as it is quite poster worthy. AMEX Presale 8/26 @10am TO 8/27 @ 10pm Public on sale Friday, August 28 at 10AM HAPPY TUESDAY DEADLAND!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you for the link! I was hoping for a peak inside the box, but the exterior shots are awesome. Boxzilla looks better than I imagined. I'm listening to creampuff as I type this on headphones. The mix is interesting. Jerry's vocals are 100% on the left speaker only and pig's organ are 90% on the right speaker. Jerry's guitar is also much heavier on the right. Not my favorite dead mix, but it really shows how focused on psychedelica they were at this time. I can't wait for this box!!!
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I saw my nephew who's now in LA and he had heard from very good sources that they're doing 7 or 8 cities. I asked if they were doing Boston, he did not know. Here's hoping they play there!!! Wow nice pictures of the boxset - hopefully that's real wood and not veneer (or paper) on cardboard. Now I want to see the unveiling - only 200 copies left (according to the main page).
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How come that wasn't shown here first before we see it somewhere else? yes, that box looks awesome! I just hope if it comes and I'm not home nobody steals it!!!! My big paranoia. Great listening party! Keep em coming! Certainly looking forward to this box set!
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After seeing this I'm not sure if the name "Boxzilla" still fits... Boxzilla sounds so big and fierce. Sure it's big, but maybe a little more dainty than fierce. "Boxarella," or "Big Box Mama?" Don't get me wrong... I really like the art. I think it captures the free-spirit celebration that is the Grateful Dead show. Only seeing three sides (2 sides and top), I'm imagining that the four sides are each a season to represent winter, spring, summer and fall tours (fall and summer shown here). Again, really want to see the inside and how the CDs are cased.
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That looks so nice. Now it would be nice to see some scroll photos, maybe a glance at how the CDs are housed. Are they Digipacks or in sleeves? Just a single show out of the box on a table.
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I think it looks great, I thought it was going to be some shabby box judging from the picture here. A black box with that who care image. But I like the look of the toy chest,, it will look on the shelf next to the other box sets! :-) You spend a chunk for these box sets, I want them to look good.
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Not to ruffle any feathers but this box looks BETTER than the trunk E72 was housed in.As for a name I like GARGANTUA it fits as the box alone is GARGANTUAN, & I too would like to see just how the shows are packaged. Just think if TPTB show us exactly what GARGANTUA contains it SELLS OUT, if I didn't already preorder I believe I would just based on the box itself, if the box looks that good you know the contents look GREAT. PLEAE PLEASE PLEASE let's see the contents!!!!
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Got my deadbase50 today. I know have so much info to enjoy. Hard to believe that set lists could make me so excited. I got to see the box today and can't wait until I have it show up at my house. I have misses out on the last few box sets and so grateful that I am getting this one.
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this new big box is revealed as a true work of art, and obvious fine companion to the europe '72 trunk - they both are just exactly perfect!...
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The artwork looks cool so far, from what we've seen. Though the names of the band members written on the bottom is not only unnecessary, it detracts from the aesthetic presentation of the box. In my opinion, a poor artistic choice. Then again, maybe we don't know the names of the band members, and we can look at the box to be reminded. As it turns out, the decision to include those names is courtesy of the Road Trips Packaging Commitee and the United Boxcutters of America.
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I may be in favor of the RT packaging (am I one of the few?), but I am definitely against box cutter samurais! Be more careful with the blades people!P.S. Box concept looks nice! Names to include Bruce, Tom, Vince, Brent, Donna Jean, Keith? Is there room?
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Was just thinking how much prettier the Mona Lisa would look if the words Mona Lisa were drawn in big letters across the bottom of the painting. This is the effect the names written on the bottom of this box has to me. A beautiful picture- a gorgeous box, and then these huge distracting words at the bottom. Anyways, just my two cents. Probably should have kept the criticism to myself.
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I REALLY REALLY hope this gets packed with grate care.......this will be coming to Australia soon and will take pride of place in my study with all my other Dead, ABB etc. box sets.... PLEASE Rhino pack this with care.....it has so many roads to travel............ Now WHAT's inside......what's the goodies...... PS I have for sale the DELETED and RARE complete 2013 numbered Allman Brothers Band live tour box set - retailed at 699$US - I'm selling for $799US plus shipping from Oz to USA - a one-time offer as I've seen this set go on ebay for over $1000US.... Also Dead May 1977 box for sale for $350US - shipping included
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Since the box itself appears to be high, it might house 2 levels - 15 shows each level - if you take 15 DaP's and group them together and then double that area you can get the idea. It still leaves room for the book and any extras. Hopefully it'll be DaP cases vs. those sh*tty Road Trips digipacks.
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....reading DeadBase 50. Woke up a couple of hours later with it resting on my chest. No wonder it was hard to breathe. Thought I cracked my sternum! Love, love, love this tome. I found out a few minutes ago that David Crosby sat in on the second half of the second set during the 9.10.72 Hollywood Palladium show. Jumped right to it on relisten.net and am checking it out now. Who knew? I sure as hell didn't....priceless....
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....hey Dave, I posted a similar 30 Trips box interior set up on the Nashville board a few minutes ago. I, however, think it will be only one level of discs as opposed to stacked. Is the box high? Or those of us buying it?.... ....double post. Sorry. I haven't done That in a while....
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....hey Dave, I posted my thoughts on the 30 Trips box interior set up on the Nashville board a few minutes ago. I, however, think it will be only one level of discs as opposed to stacked. Is the box high? Or those of us buying it?....
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Box looks great - and the shows speak for themselves - but got a feeling we'll be a little let down on 'extras' - I think it's the book and scroll - that's it..... Not that I need the secret compartment and hidden coin (Other one TOO) or backstage pass replicas.....I'd want real extras (a photobook like the McCartney remasters), bonus discs, downloadable content card, a visual counterpart (i.e. dvd of last ever show), something more I'd actually use....however it will be what it will be...was disappointed as hell with lack of extras on Europe box but the music made up for it - I'm sure that will be the case here (exclusing Dough Knees, Day Job, Samba in the Rain etc...)
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