• 7,852 replies
    admin
    Joined:

    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
    PDF
    Text

Comments

sort by
Recent
Reset
  • jrf68@hotmail.com
    Joined:
    Off topic
    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
  • LoveJerry
    Joined:
    dharwin
    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
  • Cousins Of The…
    Joined:
    FW 69 re-release
    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
  • mbarilla
    Joined:
    FW69 Box set
    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
  • Roland Bruynesteyn
    Joined:
    re-release FW'69
    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
  • Born Cross Eye…
    Joined:
    FW 69 box re-issue?
    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
  • Sun King
    Joined:
    shrine vinyl et al...
    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
  • Charlie3
    Joined:
    Ramble On
    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
  • Dennis
    Joined:
    Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices
    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
  • dharwin
    Default Avatar
    Joined:
    Just to be clear...
    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
user picture

Member for

17 years 7 months

"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

13 years 2 months
Permalink

If so, I would love to read a post after. Better yet stream the show on Ustream
user picture

Member for

9 years 4 months
Permalink

Looks like it is possible after all. Just had the email about shipment. It says : " If you need to adjust your payment method, please call 877-DEAD-NET. The deadline to reply is September 8, 2015 at 11:59pm ET. " and " If your payment method fails, your order will not be processed for fulfillment. At that point a Dead.net customer service representative will reach out to you. This may result in shipping delays. "
user picture

Member for

11 years 2 months
Permalink

sound quality is good. Our futures are assured. Our civilization will survive another 1000 years. Rejoice!
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

Just received this fro GD Shop .......'Lazy lightning, I'd like to find the proper potion That's gonna capture your emotion... We ran into a few production snags with our 30 Trips custom lightning-bolt USB and in order to bring you the highest quality product, we're going to need a little more time to whip this lazy lightning in to shape! We'll be shipping out in October, specific date - and first look - forthcoming. That said, we want you to have every opportunity to enjoy 30 Trips Around The Sun on the original street date of September 18th. We'll be sending you an exclusive link to listen to each show as well as a pdf of the 288-page book that features an essay written by Nick Meriwether as well as special remembrances of the band submitted by fans and a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years. We hope you'll accept our sincerest apologies.' Bit of a bummer hearing now ..... as it's too late to get a box, but hopefully they mean early October !
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

12 years 10 months
Permalink

15 days until JUMBO box ships. IMHO Blow Away from 10/26/89 is the BEST version EVER, Brent is so ANGRY. In fact the whole band seems to be unhinged on this particular night.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

17 years 3 months
Permalink

Me thinks USB Delay was announced after the physical product (box) was sold out to keep USB orders from being canceled and boxes ordered in its place. Pure speculation on my part, but...
user picture

Member for

16 years 2 months
Permalink

I will have to thank this thread's moderator, marye (Mary E.) for providing the picture of the exterior of the 30 Trips Around The Sun box. This picture debuted not too long ago on relix.com site and to me it looks like a case of beer.Hmmm, beer ... I like beer, Grateful Dead Beer - now that's for me! I still want to see more pictures of the contents of the box, please.
user picture

Member for

14 years
Permalink

I was kind of hoping that this show would get it's own release with the title "Miami Meltdown". This is probably that last good Dark Star...
user picture

Member for

9 years 3 months
Permalink

Yeah I can't wait to hear the star if full blown stereo power in hdcd.
user picture

Member for

9 years 5 months
Permalink

10/26/89 is the last good Brent era Dark Star, but many of the Europe 90 Dark Stars are very good and both 4/1/91 and 9/26/91 are excellent with Bruce's contributions taking them to places deeper than the Branford Dark Stars, which are also quite listenable.
user picture

Member for

16 years 2 months
Permalink

Yes, KY Trips am very aware of Dogfish's American Beauty Imperial Pale Ale.
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

There are also non-sanctioned (or semi-sanctioned) beers like Dead Ringer by Ballast Point and Grateful Red by Capital Brewing. Are there others?P.S. last good (Brent) Dark Star? Nothing wrong with RFK 7-12-90 either imo...
user picture

Member for

13 years 4 months
Permalink

Great label.. ...I can tell without asking she is into the blues... If I see, I will have to down a pint in your honor. I guess we are everywhere.
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

The picture of the USB looks pretty darn cool. Anybody order both, the box and USB? Expensive for the hardcore completionist who has to have it all.
user picture

Member for

16 years 2 months
Permalink

Tighthead makes, or made a seasonal called Bear's Choice. It may have been retired. Thighthead is in Chicagoland, so it also makes sense to the fans of the NFL's Bears. I have not seen the label to verify.If it were up to me, the label would be similar to the 1973 album art. http://www.tightheadbrewing.com/beer-bears-choice
user picture

Member for

16 years 7 months
Permalink

Lazy lightning, I'd like to find the proper potionThat's gonna capture your emotion... We ran into a few production snags with our 30 Trips custom lightning-bolt USB and in order to bring you the highest quality product, we're going to need a little more time to whip this lazy lightning in to shape! We'll be shipping out in October, specific date - and first look - forthcoming. That said, we want you to have every opportunity to enjoy 30 Trips Around The Sun on the original street date of September 18th. We'll be sending you an exclusive link to listen to each show as well as a pdf of the 288-page book that features an essay written by Nick Meriwether as well as special remembrances of the band submitted by fans and a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years. We hope you'll accept our sincerest apologies. Stay tuned, The Dead.net Team I spoke to Dead.net and they won't allow us to even download the mp3s on the release date, just stream song by song. I'll probably cancel my order now...
user picture

Member for

16 years 7 months
Permalink

Items OrderedItem 1 Description 30 Trips Around The Sun Digital Box (USB) Quantity 1 Status Backordered Estimated Ship Date October 31, 2015
user picture

Member for

12 years 2 months
Permalink

There are a few others that I'm aware of... Here in Louisville, Bluegrass Brewing Company (BBC) makes a Dark Star Porter. And Starr Hill, a brewery in VA must be run by a Deadhead. Here are some of their choices... http://starrhill.com/brews/grateful/ http://starrhill.com/brews/dark-starr-stout/ http://starrhill.com/brews/little-red-roostarr/ http://starrhill.com/brews/shakedown/ We ARE everywhere! Thank goodness for that!
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

else care for Guinness's seasonal - Stout Your Face? Instead of a harp on the can, they've got a Nash Strat. Each one is numbered, of course, so remember to leave the Dead soldier in tact before you put it on the shelf next to Europe '72.
user picture

Member for

12 years 11 months
Permalink

Speaking of beers and music: just sitting here in my new apartment grooving to 12/6/73. Im drinking a DogfishHead Punkin Ale. Great stuff. I have a bottle of "vintage" American Beauty" from the first release Im saving for "Boxzilla". Im listening in chronological order the first time. The show Im looking forward to the most is 9/24/72. Love that 72! Actually looking forward to all the shows! Cant Wait!!! Later Folks!!! Crackin anotta! ;) P.S. GO GIANTS!!!( I know preseason, whoopee shit!)
user picture

Member for

15 years 1 month
Permalink

Not to be forgotten is Terrapin. I don't think they have overt GD references in any of their beer names, but the company name itself is an homage on every can...
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 6 months
Permalink

If I remember correctly the 1972 box set arrived before I thought it would...infact I remember it just showing up and totally not knowing what the grateful dead people could've sent that was so big then when I opened it, it came back to me...when I ordered the 1972 set I think it was in April and kind of put it on the back burner and didn't think about it again...so i'm not exactly sure if it came early...but I called the grateful dead 800 number today and they're sticking to about the 18th they'll ship...obvioiusly could be the 16th or the 19th but in that pocket...not next week which would be nice...we will be charged next week though that's a fact on the 9th we will be charged.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

12 years
Permalink

We visited the brewery on Tuesday, and officials there seemed pretty certain American Beauty will NOT be brewed again (at least with the GD co-branding). As it was related to us, the brewery had a license to do two runs (Nov 2013 blue bear label was first, 2014 red bear was second) of the beer. They apparently received permission to do a third run in May 2015 (Skeleton label), but will likely not re-up with the band's licensing arm. I got the impression the band's licensing fees are steep, or at least not financially worth it for the brewery. They told me the music series brews usually don't last. Two exceptions are the Robert Johnson Hellhound Ale and the Miles Davis Bitches Brew. Let's hope this proves wrong. American Beauty is delicious!
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

....I've got a couple of Red's and Blue's and an American Beauty Imperial IPA on my kitchen shelf....wish I had more but they're not cheap....what is anymore? ....yeah, they're empty. I love my IPA's....what can I say....prost!!
user picture

Member for

13 years 5 months
Permalink

How are y'all going to listen to this much music? I am compelled to process every release by writing impressions of each song in real time as I listen carefully on a first pass. It really gets me to pay attention to the details and note the big moments I want to return to. Then and only then can I relax and listen more casually. Clearly, this fatty will take a long time to process - probably more than a year. I did the E72 box over about 8 months and I often refer to those write-ups. I doubt if many (or any) of you share this compulsion, but I'd love to see your writing if you're willing to let it out of the house.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

12 years 10 months
Permalink

14 days YES JUST a mere 336 hours until the MONSTER box ships.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

16 years 7 months
Permalink

But I get it. Dick latvala did the same thing. Much like in school, I'm a terrible note taker but I'd like to see yours if you get a chance to share them!
user picture

Member for

16 years 10 months
Permalink

s anyone else a little concerned about the potential sound quality? I am sure the 70s shows will sound pretty much as Dave's/Dick's/RT do - at least that is how the listening party examples come over - somewhat short of the care taken with the Winterland 73 and 77 boxes. The Blow Away above is from a multi-track but is a long way short of the first Spring 90 box never mind the Spring 90 TOO - it suffers from the usual Brent keyboard and vocal louder than the rest of the band together which I am sure could have been addressed with a little time. The Cumberland Blues is presumably from a cassette soundboard and I know they limits things but they have made more effort in the past - it also sounds like the end of it is patched which makes it an odd selection for a listening party. I have an awful feeling that this project has been too big for the timeframe of a summer launch and the mastering will have been rushed (perhaps this also explains the complete absence of Dave giving updates and the lack of any pictures of a finished set - the picture of the box could very well reside only in someone's copy of photoshop). I am not knocking this - I am as excited as anyone to get hold of this but I would prefer to have it done well in November than to have the sound compromised in September.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

13 years 2 months
Permalink

If u missed this box, and u want a home run. "The other one" which is the 2nd 1990 box is fucking dirty dirty good. Sound quality is unparalleled. Im not a salesman, ive just got it in.....again. My average Monitor Audio floor speakers absolutely sing with these discs. Normans best work imho, the first 90 box mix and quality is inferior. The Other One is special. Winterland 73 is my favorite, but the sonic sound on this is epic, and the boys are ON every night.
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

They started tossing around ideas for this project in 2012. So, not terribly rushed imo. I'm sure they will have done what they could with the source tapes they have. Also, my understanding is they went digital in '83 - someone chime in if they have some more information. I know I posted a link up here a while back inquiring what Norman, et al. will have done with 6-24-85 Iko Iko which Dave said in one of his Taper's Section posts has PCM dropouts aplenty. I bet they have cassette backups for the PCM/DAT recorded shows as well. That may be the splice you're hearing in Cumberland Blues. I'm tempted to listen, but I'm waiting on the box for my first listen.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 6 months
Permalink

The quality has a lot to do with the venue...some of the 1968s never sound better than when they played the circus?? or some place as a residency...in later years when they got really big they played stadiums and stadiums tend to be echo-ey...so if you really want good quality listen to 1968-1978...1980 had a lot good quality shows...but I did find the larger venues not as good when they played smaller places auditoriums, theatres...not sure if that can be fixed so easily...1990 box set I got that too a little echo-ey a little big...overall not dis-satisfied with the box sets just an observation...still say 1972 is the pennacle of the grateful dead.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

13 years 2 months
Permalink

Is spliced
user picture

Member for

12 years 2 months
Permalink

Allow me to change the subject. Dancin' In The Street - according to Wikipedia, that song on the bonus portion of the studio album Terrapin Station is from 5/8/77. My question is - if they can put one song from the show on an album, why can't they put out the whole concert? Waitin' for for the box. Is that like Waiting for Dave? And who gets the reference?
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

I think they're waiting to have the master tapes back, but I'm not sure. I didn't think they had the tapes from Academy of Music '72 either and that didn't stop them from releasing shows from that run. This is of course speculation on my part. I try to follow the scuttlebutt on the tapes, but I truly have nothing definitive to work with. It would be cool if there was a clearinghouse for such information.
user picture

Member for

12 years 2 months
Permalink

So... I finally broke the news about Boxzilla to my wife last night. I had been dreading it for months, and when I saw the pic of the product a couple of weeks ago, I knew it was going to be too big to "hide." She took it remarkably well... as in, she didn't give me any grief whatsoever. So... there's hope out there for the rest of you!
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

I could not agree more! The 2nd 1990 box are the finest quality Dead recordings I have ever heard. You feel like you're on stage with them. Ofcourse the Fillmore '69 box gives me goosebumps too. :)
user picture

Member for

16 years 7 months
Permalink

Email I got two days ago. They also took down the comments on the USB...and it still shows a Sept 18 ship date. Lazy lightning, I'd like to find the proper potion That's gonna capture your emotion... We ran into a few production snags with our 30 Trips custom lightning-bolt USB and in order to bring you the highest quality product, we're going to need a little more time to whip this lazy lightning in to shape! We'll be shipping out in October, specific date - and first look - forthcoming. That said, we want you to have every opportunity to enjoy 30 Trips Around The Sun on the original street date of September 18th. We'll be sending you an exclusive link to listen to each show as well as a pdf of the 288-page book that features an essay written by Nick Meriwether as well as special remembrances of the band submitted by fans and a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years. We hope you'll accept our sincerest apologies. Stay tuned, The Dead.net Team BTW my order says it will be shipped October 31
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

12 years 10 months
Permalink

It's NOT SOLD OUT, here we go again!!!!!
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

Perhaps these were found when they fired Box Cutter Boy? Rock on
user picture

Member for

9 years 3 months
Permalink

I am sure as the email went out, there have been some back out. Personal finances can change. edit: or maybe the "talk" did not go as well for some.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

9 years 2 months
Permalink

Are we thinking that the tracks that are on the gold single will be included on the discs somewhere? Also, I picked up the 2nd spring 1990 box earlier this year and just downloaded the 1st spring 1990.... It's ridiculously good. The music itself as we all know was incredibly inspired. But, the quality of the purchased product is outstanding. Hoping for more if the same but confident that they'll deliver on this epic release. Congrats to all who get to experience it.
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

The first night of 3 from Richfield Fall '91 and of the last great Grateful Dead tour. Every song from this three stand in Ohio are played beautifully. The Scarlet>Fire will melt your mind. The third night will make you want it released. https://archive.org/details/gd1991-09-04.sbd.miller.95313.sbeok.flac16 This run of three shows screams for official release. 9/10/91 is a nice box choice, but 9/4-6/91, 9/26/91, 10/27/91 and 10/31/91 are equally as essential as far as I'm concerned.
user picture

Member for

10 years 2 months
Permalink

...scrambling to ensure there's $751.43 in their bank accounts or available credit on their credit cards. Can't hold off on that mortgage payment...the electric bill can wait...cable bill should be paid, don't want that getting turned off...car payment can wait...
product sku
081227955892