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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #6631
    KeithFan2112
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    Speaking of Decline
    Yeah Palmer, you bring up a good point. What happened to Bob Weir's guitar sound in the late 70s? I want to call it choppy flamenco, but I don't know why I want to call it that. It's something in the tone of his guitar that changed a whole bunch. I may be morphing into pre-hiatus guy....I've always maintained that they were better with just Billy on drums, and that almost anything they played on the Europe '72 tour sounded better in '72 than it did after the hiatus (Bertha, Cold Rain, New Minglewood ((Ladies & Gentlemen - wow)), Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, Promised Land, Deal, the list goes on. But there was so much good stuff I like in 77/78 - Scarlet Fire, Music Never Stopped, Estimated Eyes, Help-Slipknot-Franklin, The Wheel, Samson, the list goes on.
  • #6632
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    For the Shakedown Sessions, I don't think it was that he wasn't welcome to the studio, its that there were days that he didn't even show up, especially towards the end. Jerry, in particular, was pissed and asked John Kahn to finish. He even has keyboard credits on the album. Wouldn't that qualify to some of the comments at least? I also think Keith's playing is brilliant for most of his career with the Dead, and I often spend large amounts of time listening to the Keith Years. I also think band members opinions count. So there's a lot to this, but most importantly I don't recall any significant volume of people bashing Keith's playing on this thread. ..and if there are some comments you might not like, they are almost always in response to someone stirring the pot with Brent bashing, which certainly offends people. I was just highlighting that for a host of reasons Feb '17th was their last show, so lets be thankful for what we have instead of dwelling on what we cannot impact. It is what it is. That's all, nothing personal.
  • #6633
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    Just finished listening Row Jimmy from 3/20/77. Keith sounds great backing up Jerry's fine, lyrical solo, but is clobbered by every hit of Mickey's bass drum. I think this was mentioned a few weeks ago; very apparent to me on this track. To my ears, it sounds like there was a change in the mix from 76 to 77; more emphasis on the drums(esp. bass drum), and a less "crispy" bass, making the overall sound a little muddier than it was.
  • #6634
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    I love the keyboard/era debates!
    I don't agree that "old" topics, such as era- and keyboard debates should be retired. This day's posts has been the most interesting here to me in weeks: from floridabobs culture reflections all through the Keith decline discussion. Almost anything that generates a flurry of thoughtful posts seems cool to me as long as it's civil. As a lifelong Deadhead, I think the era/keyboard debate is perfectly relevant and (for me) endlessly fascinating (well, nearly endlessly). I'm extemely conflicted and ambivalent about most of the Dead's post-hiatus music and have been that way for >35 years. Where else can we talk about these things? If we only stuck to the forum topic, we all know these threads dry up quickly and become boring as all hell. My guess is that,era/keyboard discussions generate the most interest here, despite complaints about "old, well worn" topics. Anyone really bored can just scroll though topics that don't interest them. I did draft a long post to contribute to the Keith decline discussion but lost the draft. Basically, I agree with LoveJerry. Keith sounds fine to me in the late 70's but as someone pointed out, he seems very low in the mix. Yes, there is a huge difference in Keith's playing E72 and May 77; but the same could be said for Phil and Bobby's playing. How could anyone not notice a similar decline in their playing? Listen to any of Bob and Phil's playing from the late 70's compared to, say Fillmore 2/69, E72, or WInterland 73. Night and day.
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    hahahaha What?? He stole Jerry's stash??
    No wonder he wasn't welcome (and no wonder he couldn't finish the Shakedown Street session). Hey hey, Jerrylover, don't drag my name in the mud lol. I only said he was a fair pilot. No but really Keith Moon was like the tazmanian devil with drumsticks. If anyone has heard his live stuff from Tommy and Live at leads, in that '69 - '70 zone, you know what I'm talking about. I can understand why Clapton or Baker (I forget which one) would have given that snide expression when asked about Moon's talent compared to Baker, because Ginger was great, a time keeper, an arranger, and so much more than a drummer when it came to making music, but Moon was off the rails excellent, and completely untouchable from '68 - '73. But if you compiled the best live 2 hours of Moon with the best live 2 hours of Baker, Moon is a step or two ahead. What Baker brought to music composition, Moon brought to live performance.
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    I am asking "us" because "us" are the folks who frequently say Keith's playing declined without a lick of evidence to substantiate that assertion. Forget what you've read on Wikipedia or wherever, since it's not exactly a well documented topic, and listen to the music - where is it? Did Phil really say that? If he said it, is it true? In a court of law it's nothing more than hearsay. Give me a song or just recognize that every time someone comments that his playing declined is probably going off the Wiki quote or the comment from Blair Jackson's book (thanks for sharing, never saw it before), but a couple of off-handed subjective remarks do not make it true, and they don't hold up to scrutiny, which is my main point. People are regurgitating hearsay that does not hold up to scrutiny - no wonder politicians lie so much - it's so easy to pass lies off as truth to the masses. It's actually kind of scary. It would be interesting to scan this site for the past several months to see how often this unsubstantiated rubbish was repeated. I kind of feel bad for Donna. And the reason I didn't bring up anything like drug use or marital problems is because it has nothing to do with my argument, which is simply that his playing did not suffer on the stage, and I have the tapes to prove it :-) Or maybe I don't - I am willing to admit I was wrong or uninformed, which is why I posted in the first place - to find out if anyone can point to a performance where his playing was off. Keithfan mentioned Keith Moon - at least when his playing was said to have declined before his death, you can hear it in recordings (Kilburn 1977, Who Are You). That I believe, because it's well documented and easy to hear.
  • #6637
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    Of course I agree with LoveJerry - not because I'm a Keith fan, but because it's true - there is really very little primary source evidence that Keith's playing deteriorated. Wikipedia? Even if Phil said it, ex-bandmates deride each other all of the time, it's the single most predictable type of slander they throw at one another. I'm sure he nodded off at the wheel a few times, but that's hardly a deterioration in skills. Not that it's a good thing. But I get LoveJerry's sentiment, which I might also add was not an argument about the reasons he left the band so much as a defense of his playing. So while yeah, some folks have pointed out that there was drug use and whatever, the main point is that folks comment about Keith's deterioration of skill on here all the time, presumably because they read a Wiki quote or Blair Jackson comment - yet the evidence, the music betrays the notion that there was anything substandard in his playing. If I'm reading her post accurately she's just asking someone to point out which songs/shows/period demonstrates this decreased ability to play, and indignant (correct me if I'm wrong JerryLover) that when the topic of his departure comes up, everyone always says he couldn't play, he couldn't play, he couldn't play. I have, myself tried to substantiate that claim that he could no longer play, but just can't find it. The proof should be in the pudding, but it's not. Long live Keith. Both of them - Keith Moon drummed circles around Ginger - he just colored out of the lines a lot.
  • #6638
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    Why ask us? We didn't kick him out of the band. There's a few factors you are not bringing up besides his playing. I don't think any of us question he was a brilliant piano player loaded with talent. But.. First there was his escalating drug use. By late '78 Keith had a heroin addiction (and for that matter so did Jerry). Towards the end of Shakedown Street, Keith couldn't even be found to finish the keyboard tracks on some of the unfinished songs, so John Kahn of all people filled in and did them. In Rock Skully's book, Rock states Keith was rumored to have stolen Jerry's stash once, which really pissed off Jerry. Shortly after that, Keith wasn't part of the JGB. Can't ask any of them if its true because they've all passed by now.. but I don't think there's much doubt about their drug use and drug of choice in these years. There was also the relationship trauma. There were regular fireworks between Keith and Donna on a regular basis. Violent fights, trashed hotels, smash up derby's in the parking lots, ...drama.. tension.. yuk. And then there was his playing. I think his playing had diminished or at the very least was not consistent by late '78, early '79 and, well, the sad truth is.. you can't get rid of Jerry and I'm not sure if having two junkies in the band was something they wanted or could continue with. Keith and Donna wanted to leave too. I think she left a few shows early in one of the last tours because she couldn't take it either. Remember, they were trying to raise small kids at the time. So its well documented that the parting was mutual. I'm not sure what is to be accomplished by going down that rabbit hole. They left and they got a new piano player. We weren't there, but I imagine if we were and if we were privy to all the facts and details.. well, my guess is one way or another, that darkness had to give. One Edit: I read cousins reply (which was classic). Yes, amateur slide guitar hour. aaaack! Love ya Bobby... but on this one, I agree with my cousin. He supposedly started playing more slide to get the sounds he (they) wanted they keys. ..and yes, Donna in particular was drinking a lot, but Keith was chasing the dragon.
  • #6639
    JimInMD
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    Re: Brokedown
    I agree with your post. I think most people's minds on this are 'set like concrete'. The back and forth is usually non-productive, and I can't say I learn a ton from it.. especially when the posts come with barbs or put down another's tastes or preferences. I actually don't see the debate, I like the Keith years.. but spring '79 was their last hurrah, and enter the '80's and they got a new keyboard player. It is what it is. I am thankful someone pressed "record" on the tape deck, sit back and enjoy (or press skip if there's out there that doesn't tickle your pleasure bone).
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    Check out JGB live shows from 1978
    Some great stops along the way from Keith in 1978. And another vote for Red Rocks July 7-8, 1978. Tennesse Jed ; Passenger ; Peggy-O ; The Music Never Stopped Killer four piece combo to end first night 1st set
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 06:23

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Nice write-ups on Headphones, Zuck. Makes me want two new sets of them instead of just one. Nice links too further on down the thread. Perhaps a Christmas gift to myself... ______________________ Additional Edit: After looking more closely at the headphone review link and some deep personal reflection... I have come to the shocking conclusion that I must have been switched at birth with some trust fund family living in a penthouse in Manhattan. All that was his 'personal' equipment. If you add it all up, its probably worth as much as my freakin' house. ..and yet I feel I am its rightful owner, deserving of all of it, not him. Oh, the irony.. switched at birth is the only solution to the paradox.
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 05:07

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So tomorrow is the day that Rhino has a HUGE pay day, I called CS yesterday to make sure that everything is just exactly perfect according to the person I spoke to she said all systems are a GO!!! While she had me on the phone she wanted me to verify my payment method & billing & shipping addresses again everything is copasetic. So Rhino let's end the madness & TAKE MY MONEY, PLEASE!!!!! However she couldn't answer this question, "does the box set delay also carry over to the 4 disc set"? I'm thinking about ordering one just to tide me over until BOXZILLA is actually in my hot hands. My order status states that the shipping date is October 31st, not mid October. Has anyone else noticed that October 31st is a Saturday, I didn't even know it until the kids said to me today before they left for school "ooh dad Halloween is on a Saturday", "I said you're kidding me" so I check the calendar and sure enough October 31st is on a Saturday so let's put this in perspective, TPTB are going to come in on a Saturday & ship approximately 6500 box sets? I think NOT I say the actual ship date will either be 10/29,30 or 11/2. While I'm at it what about those of us who opted for the NBD shipping option as there appears to be no definite shipping date how are they going to determine an actual "next business day". So it appears the shipping date will be the day you receive a shipping notice from dead.net, which could be anywhere from 10/15-11/2. Well time to fight southbound I-95 traffic, I just LOVE road construction!!!!! Deadland you have a HAPPY WEDNESDAY!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by Forward on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 06:33

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I'm sure Oct 31st is a placeholder date that they needed to put in. I'd bet it needs to be a actual date not just "Mid-October". This is common practice in products that they don't have a actual hard date to tell retailers yet. We just need to R-E-L-A-X and enjoy some good music until then. Love the discussions folks!
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Submitted by Guss West on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 07:42

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My life is rich, but I'm not wealthy. The best value headphones I own are the KOSS Portapros. Amazing sound quality in a package small enough to carry with the laptop. Jim, there is good audio gear at nearly every price point. A quality source file and my Portapros can stone me, every time. Personally, I'm a fan of open headphones if the listening environment is right for that. Thanks so much for the outpouring of love and kindness to this Lost Sailor. I'll be in touch with you all, I'm a bit overwhelmed at the moment. Thanks for the heads up, Dusty. I need to watch it again! One Man, tell me more about the E72 box mastering drama? Some were done better than others? I just finished 4/24 and it sounds pretty tasty! Happy Humpday Deadland!
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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:18

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At least there will be a link to the music and pdf of the book in two days.
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:59

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In the words of Wonka's Veruca Salt- "I want a feast- I want a BEAN feast." And raise a glass to Mike TV.
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Submitted by Dusty.rambler@… on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:14

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But for how long? I have a feeling that another 50 copies or so will be "found".
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:17

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Sold Out once again! I wonder how long before more turn up? Rock on
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Submitted by KYTrips on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:28

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Off topic, I know, but I've got a few issues with some of my GD stuff that I've purchased over the years on the secondary market. Does anyone have any experience with CD/DVD refinishing machines (i.e. do they work? What's a good, cost-effective model?)? Specifically, over 2 months after having purchased it, I find that I'm having issues with Disc 3 of the Winterland '73 box set, and at this point, it's too late to go back to the seller with any issues, so I'm hoping maybe cleaning/refinishing the disc will be beneficial. Also, I've got so many CDs that it occurred to me that having a product like this around might be helpful. Thoughts? Help, Deadland!
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:36

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My guess is there will be more in a week. You figure, they are going to charge the cards tomorrow, and that will generate a list of people whose cards did not go through for whatever reason. They have already said that if that happens, they will attempt to get a hold of those people to get a card that works. The question is, how long will they give people to respond before they put their box back on the inventory shelf. I'm guessing not more than a week.
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Submitted by dantian on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:39

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I'm sure more copies will become available for sale over the next few days as some of the pre-orders will be cancelled due to non-payment. With 6500 copies it is inevitable that some charges won't go through and some folks will miss the CS call to update their payment info, or won't be able to make payment for whatever reason.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:41

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You said: Has anyone else noticed that October 31st is a Saturday, I didn't even know it until the kids said to me today before they left for school "ooh dad Halloween is on a Saturday" Totally forgot about the kids...
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Submitted by brianhahne on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:08

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Don't buy a refinisher. Have it sent off, or if you want to pay all the charges, I'll have it done for you at a place by me.They have an ECO refinisher. It's basically the best out there. I've had it take bad skips out. If the foil isn't damaged, and you can't see through the "paint" on the non-playing side.. then 95% chance it can be fixed. The place by me charges $2 + take (2.16) per disc. When it's done, it looks good as new. i would NOT buy one for home though. And this unit, that they have, costs $4000 to buy. Find someone who has one of those, or send it off to have it done. I've probably had 300 discs re-done by them since I've been selling cd's.
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Submitted by the420bandito on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:42

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Is there a better Hard to Handle out there? I am so hooked on Hard To Handle (July 31 1971 Yale Bowl). The jam at ~4:30-6:30 is hot!!
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Submitted by TheDude77 on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 13:38

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You may want to give August 6, 1971 at the Hollywood Palladium a try. Doesn't get any better.
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 13:30

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SOLD OR NOT SOLD OUT THAT IS THE QUESTION!!!!!
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 14:18

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AGAIN 2ND time today.
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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 14:47

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I was able to add one to my cart just now. As was posted earlier, it'll probably fluctuate, with a bunch being put back up for sale tomorrow once they start running cards. I'm still trying not to buy a second one. But if there's one left before they actually ship, I may bite the bullet.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 15:15

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Nice Wonka reference, Zuck.. Veruca Salt and my gf have a few things in common. Thanks for the words of encouragement, Guss West. I think that is how I am going to judge wealth from now on.. by how many $10,000 sets of headphones a person has (kidding). I have a new way to tell what kinds of seats you have at shows too.. you can tell by how good the weed smells. They tend to smoke crap weed in the nosebleeds and kind bud on the orchestra pit. Give it a try.. I'm pretty sure I am on to something. ok.. I'm getting too philosophical now, which I tend to reserve for after I've had three beers. I guess it started with headphone envy. Have a good one all. This is a good week in GD history, by the way.. lots of great shows in mid September.
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Submitted by Deadicated on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 15:14

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9/15/72 recently Charlie Miller remastered comes to mind. Oh, bwoy!
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Submitted by NWScarletFireGuy on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 21:04

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Hello, long time reader first time poster! Does anyone know the first show that the Band played all three verses of Fire? I have a number of '77 shows but no middle verse. In that vein, with three verses being a mandatory requirement, what is your best version of Scarlet->Fire? Does anything beat 6-16-85 at the Greek?
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 21:09

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It's 12:09am here in Philly, Thursday the 17th, Rhino why is my money still here? PLEASE PLEASE TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 22:14

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I think it was first done on 9/2/78.. As for best version.. its all subjective, there's no shortage of great versions of this duo. The transition between songs is usually what does it for me.. I like the article about this in the New Yorker that focuses on the Dave's Picks 8 version, that's worth a read. Recently I spent some time listening to the one on Dicks Picks 18. There's a lot in '77 that get good mentions. Lots of good Reggae sounding versions early on. The one on Dave's #8 does sound pretty good as does the '85 Greek (there's actually a few Greek S>F's that are hot). Too difficult to make a call on this one.
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Submitted by TheeAmazingAce333 on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 22:25

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9.2.78 Giants Stadium...Fire On The Mountain was a tune with not many lyrics... but Jer always found a way to muck them up... as far as "non-1977" & officially released Scarlet>Fire's check out: 11.1.79 (hidden filler on Dick's vol.13) 2.5.78 (Dick's vol.18) 11.30.80 (Dave's vol.8) 10.14.83 (Dick's vol.6) 10.1.94 (IN BOXZILLA!!!!!!) & NOT officially released: 9.2.78 7.13.84 (Scarlet>Touch Of Grey!>Fire) 9.15.85 2.26.90 3.21.91 (S>Fire>STIR IT UP JAM!!) 5.21.92 10.14.94 5.26.95 lastly... 6.5.93 Fire On The Mountain in between thee only 2 verses sung this particular evening (??) JERRY PLAYS ONE OF THEE MOST EPIC, ALLTIME SOLOS HE HAS EVER PLAYED!!! this must be heard by all... please, get to Archive immediately... as mbarilla likes to say, "this will melt your face!" the more that you give, the more it will take... ♤
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Submitted by TheeAmazingAce333 on Wed, 09/16/2015 - 23:12

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it's referred to as "4 & a half minutes of PURE JERRY BLISS" on many-a mixed cd made, as i've isolated just that solo & made it an 'interlude' if u will... (put it on mixes especially for non-heads all the time!!) the whole S>Fire isn't all that epic, but man that solo is not to be missed... can't wait to hear the masses opinions... ♤ btw, Fire is Top 5 Favourite Dead tunes, personally... just sayin... AND, spinning 9.16.90 aka Dick's vol.9... this is an underrated show, fo sho... ...& sounds AMAZING!!!!!!
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 00:24

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My account is now shy $699.98!!!!They've tapped the account....finally! :-) Weird feeling...being happy to have $700 go "POOF!!" ;)
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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 01:42

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The version from 9/4/91 is pretty slick. I saw a Scarlet Fire on 4/6/89 that you should probably check out right now. The first set is pretty damn cool too, but be careful, the second set might induce an out-of-body experience... https://archive.org/details/gd1989-04-06.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.8350… If it were up to me, I'd release it. Plug for the day.
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Submitted by gr8ful.george on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 03:09

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Just checked my Bank Funds and it appears that my payment has gone thru..@ 0246 on 9-17-15. Nothing left to do but SMILE ! SMILE !! SMILE !!!
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Submitted by LoveJerry on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 03:41

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Space, you really ought to do yourself a favor and listen to more 60s & 70s Dead. Nothing wrong with the 80s & 90s, but it's kind of like when a really good opening band plays at a show. Your homework: Two From The Vault Fillmore West 1969 (1st Show) Ladies & Gentlemen E72 4/8/72 Dicks Picks 11 Dave's Picks 5 One From The Vault Winterland June 9, 1977 The Closing of Winterland You will thank me, I'm sure...
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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 04:51

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You can leave theses forums come back six months later and you can already guess what the discussions are about. Are there any deep deadheads anymore?
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 05:20

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$758.78 GONE GONE GONE at least now I really know ALL SYSTEM ARE A GO!!!!! A VERY HAPPY THURSDAY INDEED!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by MDB52 on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 05:49

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Yeah there's supposedly 1000's of hours of video, when can we see all 5 days? OK, I was there, 5 days they played Mexicali Blues every night. I thought for sure it would make the movie, why didn't it make the film? When we gonna get to see the rest of the shows?Cheers
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Submitted by LoveJerry on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 06:26

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My favorite Scarlet Fires: DP 29 (right wjonjd?) Crisp aggressive chords from Jerry first 5 min of Scarlet. 5/17/77 (someone called this the quacking duck version - brilliant!) 7/7/89. Jerry plays a little melody just before the transition that I've not heard elsewhere. 5/13/77. Very energetic and exciting Scarlet led by the drummers. Thanks for this one KeithFan! Egypt '78. Awesome 15 minute standalone Fire on the Mountain
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Submitted by reijo29 on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 06:41

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I love that Jerry picked the E72 4/8/72 show as a required homework assignment. I recently floored a friend of mine by putting that on the stereo. High energy, awesome show to say the least.
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Submitted by drshakedown74 on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 07:00

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Has two new tracks up, they also had a track from the 74 show about a week ago in case you missed my post. Weird they weren't on here. Shapiro is running the show in case you wondered. Side note: JRAD just announced December 11th in Vegas and December 12th in Oakland If your a concert goer and your within your nearby (or not), you should go.....really.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 07:06

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nice list Ace :) a few of those were on the tip of my tounge.. 9.2.78 Wowzers !! zingers galore. Top Notch 7.13.84 very cool,, I bought this 2nd set bootleg from a head shop in Florida years ago.. This needs released For another 1984 special 3.31.84 !! 3.21.91 - love Vince and Bruce on this one 10.1.94 - primo heres a few more to check out... 5.8.79 - one of Brents 1st shows and it smokes 9.1.79 - killer !!! one of the Best !! 11.30.79 - slamming Passenger after a primo S > F 2.27.81 - Uptown run,, enough said 4.13.83 - April 83 way under the radar, stocked full of GD goodness 9.4.83 - killer setlist :) 3.31.84 - killer S > F and next night Help Slip Franklins and honorable mention for uniqueness is 4.15.88 ,, from the Rosemont Horizon Scarlet > Fire opens the show.. short but sweet from a extremely unique First set.. From 4.15.88 1st set - Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain ; Walkin' Blues ; Candyman ; Louie Louie > Cumberland Blues ; Stuck Inside of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again > Deal - Not to often the Dead played Louie Louie,, I listened to this set a month or 2 ago on the way to Supermarket and the first song I heard when I entered the Supermarket was... Louie Louie.. mere coincidence, but very cool
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 07:34

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I do enjoy these discussions; positive insights and analysis (good and bad). I got to thinking about the Scarlet > Fire segments of shows. This might add some controversy, but its become the way I look at this part of the post hiatus show. To me, the Scarlet > Fire segment in a way replaced the Jazz fueled Dark Star type jamming of 68 - 74 as the band began to evolve from the acid drenched monster into a harder rockin' machine. The Scarlet>Fire, Playin'>Terrapin, etc. replaced the Dark Star suites and we see less piano, more B3, more muscular, less pin drop finesse. Like it or leave it.. it was a big part of the bands evolution. At least that's the way I view it. I know its not for everyone.. but I really enjoy the midi-fueled transition from Copps Coliseum on 3/22/90. Too bad it was mixed from the stereo DAT masters instead of the multi-tracks, but I digress. _____ One add: I really like the '79 Stanley Show, good call danc.
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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 07:36

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also happy to see the box has now been swapped for cash and my credit card is happily being paid off as I type. I wonder how they are going to ship these suckers to ensure they make it to our stoops in one piece - it appears to be a wooden crate, so I anticipate they will take grate care with the packaging. Psyched things are moving and looking forward to the treasure trove.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 07:46

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one more since Scarlet Fire and its a fine one with Keith and Donna.. https://archive.org/details/gd1979-02-10.set2.sbd.miller.97352.sbeok.fl… Grateful Dead Live at Soldier's And Sailors Memorial Hall.. February 10, 1979.. Later in 1979, the Grateful Dead would reappear at the same venue with a whole new look and some new songs (12.11.79), and a couple weeks later they would debut a new soundsystem.. For more info check out this fairly old article http://www.mixonline.com/news/tours/necessity-mothers-invention/367798
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 07:55

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I had to cancel my order on 9/16 because of some financial difficulties down the road, and I need the money. Besides that, I have most of the official releases, all of the Dick's & the Dave's (to 14), the Road Trips, the Downloads, most of the boxes: May77, Europe 72, Fillmore West 69 and Winterland 73 & 77 - except the Spring 90 boxes, and most of the standalone show releases. And plenty of boot downloads and a few pressed silver CD boots, and a couple of old cassettes as well. So I'm not really in the "I need a new GD show" category, I'll just rediscover the greatness of some shows that I haven't listened to in a while. Has anyone gotten the email with the pdf of the book or the mp3's of the shows contained in this collection yet? Enjoy, enjoy.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 08:25

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this set will go along nicely with the 81 disc skull splitter set I acquired a few months ago.. Born Cross Eyed... no email yet with PDF

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 08:27

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I like the one on Daves 8 in Atlanta as well great transition for me
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Submitted by BertDert on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 08:37

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I believe the link is supposed to hit tomorrow on "the original street date of September 18."
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 09:08

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"Here she is, your Komodo dragon." Guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow for the leak of classified documents. Just in case, for the brother Agents in the field- "The red castle drifts north- The false eagle carries a blue pouch." Take care everyone, see you on the other side.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 09/17/2015 - 10:03

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Roger that. Classified Documents on their way, clearly the work of Bolo. The Komodo Dragon has matches and is heading to town. Repeat: There's a dragon with matches that's loose on the town.
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