30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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October 18, 2015 - 9:00am

#2091

giantnerd

Joined:
June 24, 2007

Thanks team Rhino!!!

This box is clearly a labor of love and is spectacular!!! The jump between 66 and 67 is a quantum leap that can only be explained by alien intervention, and I am doing my best to go from start to finish to get the sense of their artistic development. My wife knew there was a contest so she (gasp!!!) opened my box set with the kids while I was at work. When I came home my kids ran to tell me they didn't find a prize in the box, so I asked them if they opened the secret complement. It blew their minds when I flipped open the lower flap and then I told them there was a book of spells and pulled out the "leather" bound book with the skeleton imprints and their jaw dropped. They believed me for a second, but then I told them it really wasn't a book of spells, but there was a secret scroll... Oh to be young and full of wonder. But the real reason I'm posting is that my buddy is a urologist as assures my that Mr. Lesh's diagnosis is very, very favorable and that he would expect him to recover fully from this. Get well soon Mr. Lesh!!!
October 18, 2015 - 8:56am

#2092

allman

Joined:
July 9, 2007

7/3/66 Disc One Question

On 7/3/66 Disc One, in the first few seconds of Dancing In The Streetis there a complete drop out of the right channel only leaving sound on the left channel for a second or two? Just asking to see if I need to ask for a replacement.
October 18, 2015 - 7:28am

#2093

ryanpm1976

Joined:
September 26, 2009

Story with 3/18/71?

3/18/71 is not listed in Taping Compendium and only second set listed in Deadbase. Is this show fairly new to circulation? Anyone know?
October 18, 2015 - 7:04am

#2094

purpleerik69

Joined:
May 24, 2015

Phil

be well soon , and thank you Mr Lesh for all the music and the enthusiasm you still invest in keeping the Dead alive.As i`m still waiting on my Boxzilla i roam through my collection of shows , today is Phil time in the Purple Zone......listen to that bass guitar tones an take a ride
October 18, 2015 - 6:45am

#2095

deadfeat1

Joined:
July 3, 2008

More Zacherlee and Headphones

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. During high school I can remember tuning in my old Sony radio to late night radio up and down the East Coast. I lived on a peninsula that jutted out in the Chesapeake Bay and I could tune in all sorts of stations late at night. WNEW stands out as does WBZ in Boston. I remember hearing new albums by the Ultimate Spinach and Beacon Street Union while listening to the "Boss sound of Bosstown on WBZ. Both stations turned me on to lots of great music. Washington, DC had a great station in WHFS, Home Grown Radio, broadcasting from high atop the towers in Bethesda, MD. Great radio back in the day! Some high value headphones you might want to consider... Sennheiser Momentum - Closed back phones in on ear or around ear models - Bass forward phones. Music Direct has some incredible sales on both models Sennheiser HD 558 or 598 - Nice spacious sound - very good for listening to live performances or action movies. Grado - Grado SR 125 - Nice open sound stage that lets you hear a lot of detail. Choose any of the Prestige models and I think you would be happy. Alessandro Series by Grado - You are on the stage with the band with incredible focus on guitars. The MS1 comes in two prices $99 and $109. Can't go wrong with either. Google Alessandro High End to purchase. Grado headphones are handmade in Brooklyn HiFi Man RE400 - In ear phones. Nice for travel and noise isolation. Hard to beat for around $79 The Audeze headphone mentioned earlier are exceptional - just a little out of my price range... Thanks for all the good stuff here!
October 18, 2015 - 6:40am

#2096

Strider 808808

Joined:
June 20, 2007

John Zacherley / Chiller Theater

I may be cut from the same paisley cloth as Mr. Ziffle. In the early 60s I used to watch Chiller Theater out of N.Y.C. It was hosted by none other than the famous John Zacherley. He would do these great comic interludes during horror movies. Voodoo Island stands out in my mind. Fast forward to WNEW in the late 60s. Cutting edge radio that was thought provoking. I remember a DJ by the name of Roscoe who would read works he had written. Really deep material. As for FM radio in the present day, there are some true free form seat of the pants DJs that can inspire and heal the listeners. The history of Underground Radio really begins with Tom Donahue and KMPX in the Bay Area. Playing complete albums and capturing the spirit of long songs such as Viola Lee Blues or Butterfield Blues Bands song East/West. I believe those pioneers of the mid 60s took great inspiration from classical ragas of India and extended jams of John Coltrane. And going back earlier, dance marathons anyone? But I digress. Certainly Jack Kerouac used spontaneous prose as a form "stretching out". Anyway Ziffle and I must have been at some of the same Dead concerts at the Fillmore East and the Capitol Theater (Port Chester). My fourth row center seat at the Fillmore 9/19/70. Maybe it was Mr. Ziff or one of his buddies who sold it to me on the street before the show for face value. ($5:50) Long live Zacheley! Love and healing to Phil.
October 18, 2015 - 6:24am

#2097

wjonjd

Joined:
January 24, 2011

@Alain - 30 Trips Vol2

Actually, when I first posted I listed 5/11/72, and then immediately said "Oh merde!! I better change that to 5/4 before Alain sees!!!!" and quickly changed it. LOL, that's the truth. :):). "Tragedy narrowly averted!"
October 18, 2015 - 6:01am

#2098

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

gninetsil ot eseht swohs sdrawkcab morf 95 to 85 so far

started on the 95 show, very nice, if you notice, this show and a few others were recorded by John Cutler vs others by Dan Healy, the Cutler shows are recorded much better. 94 show is very good, there seems to be a drop out or digi skip when help on the way goes into slipknot, from track 1 to 2, anybody else got this? 93, right away you notice the sound quality is not as good as 95 and 94, recorded by Healy, but a fine show non the less. 92 Hell in a Bucket on this show and 93 show, not my favorite opener and why 2 in a row? Healy again and Bucket starts off inferior recording, but gets better as the show progresses. 91 great show, 8 man band with Hornsby and Branford, great sound, better Healy recording. 90, another great show, with Bruce and Vince, Bruce really did fit in great with this band. 89, 24 track, recorded by Cutler, this is the shit here, best show of 89. I have stories about this weekend in Miami, but will save those for another post. 88, inferior sound quality again and there are way better 88 shows to pick from, why this one? must be the Touch of Gray. The fall 88 tour was hands down better than the spring or summer tour. 87 and 86, 2 discs, short shows, no big jams, nothing special here and another hell in a bucket. I will say the Terrapin from 86 is pretty sweet. I did not go to Dead shows in 86 or 87, giving Jerry some breathing room after his near brush with death. 85 is a very nice show, there were a lot of good shows in 85, especially on the fall tour. The Cutler shows are all top notch recordings, the Healy shows, not so much. I will be listening to the rest of these 8o's shows today, so far, no real problems with discs or anything, the sleeves are way better than those ones from E72, which ripped if you tried to get the disc out, these are much better, the box is nice but won't last very long, made of cardboard, but is a bit sturdier than E72's box, which is very fragile. Love the book, the stories in it are awesome and the way that half is one side up and the other half is up side down, is this the way everyone's is or is mine just put together wrong? doesn't matter, still all there and quite cool. All in all, a good 11 shows to start off the listening experience, I would have chosen better shows for 85 86 87 and 88, but I don't have access to the vault and the shows I would have picked may be worse recordings than these, who knows? Just my opinions and are subject to discussion. More later, have a great day, freezing here in the mountains this am, gonna be a long long cold winter, good thing I have this box to keep me warm :)
October 18, 2015 - 5:59am

#2099

claney

Joined:
July 20, 2007

Contextualizing Dick's Picks 4

ziffle - Incredible posts on the 2/13-14/70 runs. Thanks for all that info, and I always love those first-hand stories. Jim - After Ziffle's contextualization of the shows, here is my attempt to explain why I think they chopped up that run when they released DP4, by contextualizing the release. First, this was released in early 1996, very early in the Vault release experiment - and it WAS an experiment at the time. Dick's Picks 1 was a chopped up 73 show - two discs, DP2 was one (awesome) disc, DP3 saw them chopping up one of the all-time 77 Dead shows (also two discs). So, DP4 was the first three-disc release. More expensive, more risky. At the time in the music biz, A two disc CD set was a big deal, and a three-disc set was nearly unheard of - a "box set." The BIG expensive box sets released in the early to mid-90s were things like Marley's Songs of Freedom, or the Police Message in a Box (ALL their albums and singles, from their whole career, on four discs!!!). This was part of a gradual evolution to bigger releases... first to complete shows (Dick's Picks 5!), then two shows together (DP29), then full runs (Fillmore West 69), and still later to complete tours (Europe 72). Now, it's easy to wish they had figured out earlier that we are willing to cough up tons of money for complete, but this is forgetting yet another factor: We were all much younger then, with far less disposable income. In Feb 1996 I had just finished grad school; I had begun my first full-time college teaching gig only a few weeks earlier. I was living in a shack, putting all my money into ramen noodles and paying down student loans. I would NOT have been able to buy full runs, etc. So, in short, the evolution of bigger boxes and more complete releases coincided with (but was not caused by) the evolution of many of the Deadheads to old farts with some money to spend. Co-evolution baby! It's 27 degrees here in western MA. My wife is making scones, my daughter is making Play-doh people, and I haven't heard much of 30 Trips yet, just hard to with all this other stuff going on. But I will - and life is GOOD. Time for more coffee. Cheers everyone ...
October 18, 2015 - 5:50am

#2100

mbarilla

Joined:
August 8, 2013

Fillmore East sound board + Dick's Picks 4

Top notch for the era from what is stated about the sound board. I think Bears notes mention John Chester unique sound board. Check out Dicks Picks 4 notes for details and also the Allman Brothers Band - Fillmore East February 1970 CD notes that was released on GDRecords. I think I read someplace Dick L or Bear mentioned the tapes were Mono and Stereo, which may have been the challenge of getting them out? Bear mentions the two bands briefly crossed passed in Atlanta 1969, but did not hear the ABB play live at the time. Only hearing their studio album in Autumn later that year, so it was a treat and sort of surprise for Bear to see 2 trap sets, similar to the GD when they were billed together in Feb1970 "Glorious Sunday morning" - love that

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Now streaming 10/12/84 Augusta ME

A much improved sound over previous soundboard sources that I have heard over the years!One HOT Stranger!

Happy Birthday wissinomingdeadhead!

I'm ordained thru the Universal Life Church,so if ya can't get to the Pope just drop me a line! ;) And Happy Birthday to Hundred Year Hall! 20 years today!

Netflix and the Village

Before San Fran. Came into full bloom Greenwich Village was the scene. This doc was brilliant in its history and showing the folk music bloom that lead to the 60 s proper. I loved this movie and will revisit it I think a time or two. Amazing footage of a really important musical era. As a folkie today, I love when homage is paid like this.If you get a chance, view it. Great film EDIT. I did chuckle because not one mention was made of The Kingston Trio! Yeah I know they where the "establishment" folkies, but they sold a boatload of records.

Cool Story about Phil and Terrapin Crossroads

This was in the International New York Times. Just happened to pick it up in France last week... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/20/business/after-the-grateful-dead-phil… Mr. Lesh, indeed.

Good Read, Nicecat

He really built something nice out there. Thanks for the good read.

JiminMD. Wrecking Crew

God that was Fantastic! My wife was laughing cause I knew nealy all the players and songs! Do you remember how great this stuff was on an AM radio going down the street in summer in like a GTO?We're so lucky to have heard this when it was fresh. In today's music world it's a completely different game. Sight read a Chart? Hahaha how many can still do that? Loving these features on Flix. Ginger Baker and I are set for morning coffee........

I Fought The Law

Hey everyone. Totally going out on limb here, but check out the 'I Fought The Law' from 1993 show. It's totally rippin'. Can't wait for this set!!!

BEWARE MR BAKER

An excellent documentary, and if you don't watch it, GINGER WILL BEAT YOU!

Netflix Docs

I've watched them all. Muscle Shoals was definitely a favorite. The Other One was good. The Ginger Baker one was interesting, mostly to learn more about him. I do still need to watch the Keith Richards doc. I am a whore for Rockumentaries.

shipping date mid- or end-oct ?

Can anyone help ?My order status says October 31 - here we read Mid-October ? So what will happen ? Anyone knows ? BTW : I love the 91 show - can?t resist to listen to the downloads , well the needle shoves into the brain peace

@ purpleerik69

Currently, if you order the USB edition, "add to cart" on that page, the next page will have a description of the item in the 1st left column read: USB product estimated to ship between Oct 9 - Oct 31, 2015 applied Credit Card Payment Only (in red lettering). There is a 2nd column, "action", a 3rd with quantity and a 4th column with "Availability" that reads: Ships on Oct-31-2015. I don't really know, but I await the shipping notice email anytime after October 9th. I would be very happy if the shipping notice email would appear in my my mailbox on October 9th and the physical box set would arrive at my house in the 3rd week of October.

Shipping

I am far from the PTB, but I believe Oct. 31 is a "place-holder", or worst-case-scenario, meant to be the end of the line. Computers don't like things like "mid-October" or "October 15th-ish". 10-31 fits in computer world. I think (read: hope!) we'll get our stuff before Halloween...

Abudee!

That's all, folks!

shipping date

thanx for your thouhts , so we all just sit and wait....sometimes we all just sit.... don`t know why but it`s a unique feeling , like waiting for christmas.....hey , Santa , don`t forget me over here

@spaceBro

thanks for the 9/25/91 and 9/26/91 suggestion - next to never go beyond 89/90 happy Sunday, Pope is in philly, out to stack some firewood and hoping the Birds don't start the season 0-3 -- though, sure there are a number of NFL fans that would be ok with that ;)

The waiting...

As Tom Petty said, "The waiting is the hardest part!"

D'Oh!

Double-post? Yeah...

30 Trips '90 - '95

Guys, I have to say - Dave Lemieux absolutely got it right when he said the '90 - '95 shows weren't just "good shows for those years" but great shows overall. I have not been streaming anything except the 80s and 90s, and I am totally impressed with these Vince shows. If someone never heard the Dead before, and these were their first listen, I don't think they'd have any complaints. Vince is very nicely mixed, better than Brent has been since mid-80s (too loud from '87 - '90), and his vocals blend in with the rest of the band so smoothly; Jerry is playing well and singing well enough (I have to give him some leeway for age - everybody's singing voice ages, except maybe Ace Frehley - for some mysterious reason he sounds just like he did in 1978 - probably because he comes from Outer Space); Bobby is solid as ever and I actually have an easier time hearing him in the mix than in a lot of the '70s shows; and Bill and Mickey sound just fine (I prefer the acoustics of their drum sounds from the '70s, but hey, equipment and amplification has changed). I would say the hi-lights are Vince and Jerry. Sooo nice to hear Jerry play well in any year or band, and Vince sounds well integrated in the band - his chops are good, his timing is good, and his discretion is excellent (i.e. when to play and when NOT to play). Highly recommend these shows as a starting point in your 30 Trips endeavor.

Love the Love for '90s Dead!

I love reading so many comments praising the 90's shows. Especially from those who admittedly were skeptical of 90's Grateful Dead. As someone who only started listening to the Dead in late 1990 (after Brent had passed), and only saw handful of shows in 1991 and 1993, this is the Dead as I first witnessed them. And yes, they were still good. There was definitely some magic still left in them as a band. For what it's worth, I'm also a fan of the Road Trips series, and the Cal Expo '93 set (including the bonus disc) is one that gets a lot of play from me. A LOT! I think part of what makes it work so much is that the rest of the band had to step up a little to fill in the gaps left by Jerry's decline. Sure, the best shows were still the one's where Jerry was playing his best, but then wasn't that the case in all eras? I also think that the number of folks coming out and saying, "Hey, I really like this show from '95, and I usually don't listen to '90s Dead" is one of the reasons Dave wanted to put out this career-spanning, 30-years box set It sort of puts their music from all era's in context. By making the set available as "all-or-none," Dave and the Big Box also asks some of us to step outside our comfort zone and explore eras of the bands playing that we might otherwise avoid. On that note, I'd say they've succeeded already! Well done, Dave!

'85 show

Given that '85 is probably my favorite 80s year after '89 (maybe '81), I was somewhat surprised that 6/24 is my least favorite show in the box. I can't help but hope that the reason they didn't select one of the next few shows is that we're going to get a mini-set of 6/28, 6/30, and 7/1 in the future. edit- ok, I probably like the '82 show the least, but that's more to do with the SQ than the actual show. edit2- I was also wondering about 5/16/81. It's a hot show, no doubt, but the fact that they used an audience patch for such a significant portion of the show (easily the largest patch they've used to date), cannot bode well for other potential releases from this year. There's other candidates from May or Fall that could have challenged 5/16 had they been complete. I'm guessing there are issues with other shows too.

'76 Samsons

Ever notice Jerry doesn't pluck away on the main Samson theme in '76 versions? He some fills and soloing while everyone else carries the melody. Not jazzed about these versions, prefer '77 and forward.

90's etc

Thanks uv1! I'm the same as you - first show was October '90. I read all the comments on here and I start to wonder sometimes..."Gosh, didn't I have a good time at those shows I went to? Wasn't the music good?" And listening to the '95 show (the only '90's show in the box I've listened to so far) I'm reminded that yes, they were still good, fun enjoyable shows. I remember the description of Cal Expo '93 (the show I went to - May 27) in the current, at that time, "Unbroken Chain" as an "epic" show. All three of the Shoreline June '95 shows were excellent. I remember standing on the lawn and watching the people in the seated section looking like fields of wheat waving together in the wind to Ramble On Rose. Excellent! Thanks Jerry! And I'm not even going to mention the awesome Standing on the Moon at those June Shoreline shows. Thanks again Jerry!

Coffee with Mr Baker

Whoa this guy is a charmer eh? Had no idea he is or was this F ed Up.I mean I knew a great deal about him, but this was an eye opener! Oh well everybody can't be a nice guy eh? Happy Sunday.

mr baker

Saw it last year. Was also surprised how screwed up he is, but also how musically schooled he is. I knew he was a great drummer, but to hear him talk about it, there is clearly nothing unplanned when playing live. He scoffs at Moon, which says a lot about his approach to music. I don't think he appreciates Moon's talent and uniqueness. Nobody else in rock n roll is a lead drummer, and it"s almost impossible to replicate Moon, because his drumming was an extension of his explosive disposition. Few drummers' personalities are mirrored in their style to the great extent that Moon's is. It's the element that drove The Who's live sound. Everyone else was a passenger on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Listening to I Need A Miracle from the Closing of Winter land. Fantastic. Perfect. The best. And it's good too... On to Playing in the Band. Love this mix, I can hear everyone, and Phil especially sounds good. I get a chuckle when people put down Keith in '78 - he plays as well as ever on pretty much everything I've heard, including this Playing. It is true that his talents are not showcased in the later years, but I maintain that's a product of the music's style, not any personal limitations.

It all rolls ...

Wow, you guys are making my decision not to stream harder and harder! I decided just before the delay in shipping was announced to go on a GD fast, in order to drool even more heavily than usual when I got Boxilla in my mitts, but the plan got pretty hard to follow-through on when the shipping-later-than-Sept announcement came through. I've of course cheated--listened to the 9/11/73 DStar several times this week--but am generally trying to give some of the rest of the music collection some exercise so that my aural tastebuds are primed & even hungrier than usual for the GOGD. Deep into Cecil Taylor at the moment, and Los Lobos are entertaining me a good bit, too. I have to second that emotion w/r/t the kindness of '90s Dead getting some love. I was too young to experience Pig, TC (seen him since), Donna (seen her since), or Keith with the band, and I just missed catching Brent. I don't usually reach first for 1990s GD (I'm generally a 69/70 and 73/74 kind of listener), but sometimes nothing will do but Vince-era. It's all good, depending on mood and timing, and I hope we all get a few surprises out of this box. Anyway, happy anniversary of every show the GD ever played on 9/27 (here's looking at YOU Stanley Theater!). Out of curiosity: I'm planning to listen to the Box chronologically, but, with a job, a spouse, and 3 kids, I don't get enough uninterrupted headphone-time to expect that this won't take me several months (took me about 6 months to get through the E72 materials). So my crisis is that I am not sure what I'll do when DaP 16 (and 17, and maybe 18) arrives. Do I stop my Boxilla experience to groove on Dave's latest fave, or do I wait and wait until I've finished out the Box experience to listen to the next tasty treat from DL? Anyone else have a plan to accommodate this earth-shattering problem? It'll be a hard choice either way. As Oscar Wilde said, I can resist anything except temptation. I know ... it's all good, and I wish these were the biggest problems we all had everyday! FWIW, my half-year-long excursion through E72 was not hitch-free. I got to the penultimate disc of the box and found it skipped. In spite of the long time since order shipment, Dr. Rhino sent me a replacement within a week. Whatever complaints there are about TPtB on other people's parts, I have to give them some cred & mucho gratitude for coming through when I needed it! And, I don't recall who said it first, but the upcoming Dylan bootleg series release shows you how well treated we 'heads are. $600 for 18 CDs? No thanks, even for this Dylan freak. I'll go for the 6-CD version, probably, in the end, but can't help feeling cheated even there. I have everything the man's released, on vinyl and CD, but when I compare his catalogue to what we're getting from Rhino, I feel disappointed (as a BD fan) and grateful (as a GD fan). Now if only Dylan would step out on stage for some of the Dead & Co shows ....

Make sure to rip first

My advice to ckcoffman (and others) is to first rip the discs in the box to iTunes or your other favorite software. That's a quick way to find out whether any discs are defective. You can then listen at your leisure. I haven't yet listened to any of the streamed concerts. Recently listened to Dave's Picks 15 - wonderful stuff. Since there's a fade between discs from Rhythm Devils to Not Fade Away, I used software (in my case, Amadeus Pro) to edit the two together, so I now have a seamless performance from Estimated Prophet through to Sugar Magnolia.

How about a NYE box set?

There have been some great New Years shows, and I think a box of a few would be cool. My fave is 12/31/81, but there are so many. https://archive.org/details/gd81-12-31.sbd.bertha-ashley.12784.sbeok.sh…

Totally agree KeithFan

Moonie was the best in my book. Love his approach. Unparalleled in RockGinger considers himself as Jazz. I see that and his choices are spectacular too. But himself as a person? Summer's Eve comes to mind!

Summers Eve

lol, right you are Florida. I felt a little bad for him throughout the movie; but then toward the end, his son said he blew him off, and that Ginger had already blown the millions he received from the Cream reunion shows. Talk about blowing a second chance - that's not just down-on-your-luckedness, that's bonafide Summer's Eve! I do love that late 60s tube amplification stage sound of Cream and others, especially with the Who and the Marshall Stack configuration. It's crazy to think now, how short a span all of those late '60s bands existed on stage. The scene was pretty much changed for good within 10 years.

60s music

Tube amps! Love um. I once owned a Mesa Boogie Mk 3 Simulclass that had the most rich warm melt your soul sound I ever heard. Loved that box. Had to be played LOUD just had to be haha.Sold it along with most of my road gear, but picked up a little Orange solid state amp, and for $239. It's a screaming lil monster. Very nice tone at any volume. The days of huge Marshalls are pretty much over. Such a pain to move them around. Plus these new Little boxes make great sound. One thing I learned that amazed me is Jimmy Page and his fav recording amp. It was a little amp as well! He miked it up perfectly. Distance is Depth! Page learned a lot from the ole 50s engineers. I read Ginger has pretty bad COPD now too. It showed with the chain smoking in the movie. Very sad story blowing through 5 million bucks and being dirt poor cause you can't withhold your compulsiveness. What's the line about a fool and his money?

Song Version Reviews

Loved the E72 Dark Star blow-by-blow, 6-tus. Now, who wants to host a web repository (blog form or whatever) for this kind of thing? I'll contribute a review of every song version officially released on CD -- including 30 Trips, eventually. All of the others are done already, they just need a loving home and the chance to interact with other reviews. PM me!

@florida

...and regarding Ginger Baker. You know full well that any of us would just as quickly blow through $5 million if we got our hands on it and there was $5 million worth of previously unreleased Dead recordings to be purchased.

Baker vs Moon

Personally, there are drummers who I like better than either of those guys. I think Michael Shrieve was possibly better than either. Phil Collins, Stuart Copeland and Levon Helm are a few more of my favorites.

@Lowspark

Man Im pretty tight with the cabbage. If I had that kinda war chest I doubt seriously you'd see me blow it. But you never know.I agree Mr Copeland is a top notch skin man.

NYE box set

Thanks for the tip regarding 1981 new years eve,I have just finished listening,what a fantastic show. I also enjoyed finding the first set with Joan playing,shame that the quality is not soundboard standard. There is always room for another G D box set,but are there enough full shows left in the vault? So far I have only listened to the single from the 30 trips download,still hoping to avoid listening to any full shows until I get the physical CDs,me thinks the box is less than 12" square,otherwise we could have had a 12" record rather than a 7" single. Look forward to seeing the Lunar eclipse in a few hours here in the UK.

physical vs usb versions

Is there a verdict on how the USB version will treat the concerts vs the physical version? Obviously, USB doesn't have the CD-length limitation, so the concerts can theoretically run uninterrupted. For example, the '73 show's Jam necessitated a track re-order, and '78 splits the jam @ Drums/NFA. So I'm wondering if the shows run uninterrupted on the USB or if they're, essentially, only digital copies (FLAC aside). Anyone know? Thanks!

O.K....

Sitting here, having some 6.9% Octoberfests and listening to 3/25/72. Great show, I love the Academy of Music run. Should have been a box set. What do u think? Ive said this before, I'll say it again: JimInMD is a stand up fuckin guy!.....and I say that with the utmost respect!.....he knows!!!!

A brand new crescent moon....

....or in tonight's case, a brand new full eclipse, harvest, blood red, supermoon! Go outside, look up, and Get Some!!!....awesome....

Academy of Music Box Set

Completely agree this would make an awesome box set.

physical vs usb versions

Oswald55 asked, "I'm wondering if the shows run uninterrupted on the USB or if they're, essentially, only digital copies (FLAC aside)." I sent a similar question to customer service and David L. several weeks ago (when I ordered the USB version). I was told that the engineers delivered two completely separate masters, one for the CD, one for the USB. My question had to do with audio quality (is the USB just a FLAC of the CDs), and the helpful answer was, no, the USB is distinct. I did not ask about track sequencing; hopefully they will give us everything is the correct order, but it doesn't much matter in the end. We can resequence those files on a playing copy with no loss of sound quality. Similar can be done with the CDs, but only by resequencing and then burning to a new CD (otherwise the HDCD decoding will be lost). I mentioned somewhere else that the Spring TOO download version runs in performance order without fades, so far as I know, but not having heard the CDs, no idea if they are different.

In honor of this sweet eclipse....

....I am starting to spin a Dark Star. 1971....Chicago....

I'm so impatient!

I am one of those who prefer to wait for the box, and so I have not listened to digital files (except China> Rider of 10/27/1990, which I love). I'm so impatient! (Excuse my English, I'm French).

On the Skins

Nice drummer discussion, compliments of Mr. Baker, I believe. I love all those mentioned.. I am partial to the multi-limb schizophrenia of Bill Bruford as well. I recently took a youtube spin of his work and bands and was completely absorbed as about an hour disappeared from space and time.

No eclipse here on the East Coast

Overcast and raining.. I didn't even know it was going on. Coincidentally, however, I spent my predawn hours listening to the Dark Star > Morning Dew from Dave's 13, almost a year since my first spin. Up way too early drinking some kona, great music to plan out my week. What a powerful performance.

Robbed in the East

Hi JiminMD here in fla. we were robbed because of the weather from seeing the eclipse. The Moon was Obscured by Clouds.............But I did Find a bunch of songs which dealt with the Moon. Sisters of the Moon by Fleetwood was a cool remembrance. Of course we were Standing on the Moon with the Dead, then Walking on the Moon with the Police, etc. There are a lot of songs dealing with the Moon! Mankind has been thinking about that glistening glob of celestial cheese a long time. Starting off the week in Winterland 73, 11-11 to be precise. From there the course is wide open. All the Best to you Kind Folk

Drummer

The best drummer I have ever seen live is Joe Russo......end of story.

Neil Peart

No eclipse here on the East Coast

Sorry to hear that Jim here in New England it was totally clear and beautiful from the glider on my front porch. In honor of the event I'm playing the SBD from 9/16/78 2nd set. I have always loved the Shakedown > Truckin segment. https://archive.org/details/gd78-09-16.sbd.orf.2319.sbeok.shnf

Drummers

I am very fond of a couple drummers mentioned in this thread, but I am really glad to see Michael Shrieve and Bill Bruford mentioned. I am a drummer, and when I was a teenager, I regularly watched live footage of Shrieve like it was porn. I was fortunate to catch King Crimson twice in '95 on the Thrak tour, and the interplay between Bruford and Pat Mastelotto was nothing short of wizardry. Bruford is a trickster, and he is not only obsessively precise, but well versed in the art of ridiculously obtuse time-signatures. Do yourself a favor and check out the Deja Vrooom DVD, most of which is on YouTube. However, with the DVD, I believe you can choose your viewing perspective. Moon is mentioned, probably my favorite drummer. It is really his energy and total chaos that hits me somewhere deep. Ginger: I actually started playing because of Ginger. I was 12 and begging for a left handed electric axe when my Dad played me "Do What You Like" from the Blind Faith LP. That was a defining moment, and I decided to play drums in that moment. I was a huge Ginger fan, and I still appreciate him. But, what appealed to my early teen brain (loud showmanship style drumming-double bass solos and what not) never lost its appeal, but my taste matured. I still dig Baker's work with Cream and Blind Faith, but hearing him (and Clapton and Bruce) on that live recording a few years ago, well, that is one of the most boring recordings I have ever heard. Other drummers who inspired me through the years, Stephen Perkins (Jane's Addiction)-I saw Jane's a couple times in my early drumming years before they broke up, and Perkins was a huge inspiration; Matt Cameron (Soundgarden and subsequently Pearl Jam)-Crazy rhythms and ghost beats, unique time signatures, excellent precision; Jaimoe and Butch Trucks (ABB)-possibly the "easiest" drum duo to watch play, just fluid and groovin', two-drummer shufflin'; Jim Keltner and Jim Gordon- just listen to "Mad Dogs and Englishmen", just about any Delaney and Bonnie LP, and Derek and the Dominoes; Tony Allen (Fela Kuti and the Afrika 70)-just sick!; and there are so many more. I always find musician comparing conversations fascinating, and how easily we start to blur the line between our preferences and individual tastes and fact with statements like "best", greatest ever", and so on. These musicians all have their own very distinct musical voices, and they are almost impossible to compare. I love these conversations and hearing who everyone loves and why.

Drummers

Charlie Watts. He's never mentioned in "greatest drummer" conversations. He should be.

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