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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
  • Roland Bruynesteyn
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Pure Prarie League, but only the first 2 albums, before they split. Try the eponymous first album.They got back together later, but ho hum, the magic was gone as was Craig Fuller.Also a bit partial to Poco, nowadays largely forgotten, the much inferior Eagles got all the attention, but the live album Deliverin, delivers.... And, drum roll, MIKE NESMITH! One of the absolute best gigs of my life was the Zig Zag magazine fifth birthday party, Mike alone with Red Rhodes, it didnt hurt that John Stewart (California Bloodlines) was also on the bill. Zig Zag wandering....
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@ SaintStephen1971 - a "few" more boxes are available. Get it while you can! @ Mule_Skinner - being as you're a Dylan man, I thought you'd rank 'Love And Theft' higher. It's one of my favorite Dylan albums, but then again so is 'Oh Mercy'. But music, like all art forms is subjective so go figure... @ Matchewy - have you heard the collaboration between Melvins and Jello Biafra, 'Never Breathe What You Can't See' (2004)? Not being familiar with Melvins, I loaned it to a co-worker who is, and he gave it a thumbs-up. Great recommendations for country rock music. For latter day, I would add (that I'm familiar with) the debut albums by Deadstring Bros., Punch Bros., and especially Jamestown Revival. Bloodshot Records is a great label/place for country rock music for those interested. For drummers, all mentioned but especially Elvin Jones (for his work with Coltrane alone), Ginger Baker, Keith Moon, Phil Collins and Neal Peart. Having seen Collins and Peart in the 70's (at the Tower Theatre no less) I can attest to both being a "monster" behind a drum kit. I'm one of those holding out for the physical box before listening. I haven't been listening or streaming ANY of it, and I have to wait until Xmas since it's a gift from my sister (and a great sister she is. She and sister #1 should have smothered me in my sleep when they had the chance).
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as if more were needed... Drummer: Rodney Holmes. A true monster. Country rock albums: The Dillards "Wheatstraw Suite" & "Copperfields"
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On Love and Theft, I do love it and would probably consider it the Best of his modern albums but not my Favorite if that makes sense. Like you said, it's such a subjective and personal thing, I got into him around the time of Modern Times in 2006 and somehow it and Together Through Life (2009) are my favorite as far as modern albums go, with modern being Time Out Of Mind and later for me. Now TTL is generally not ranked high at all, so that's just one of those quirks. I just find it a tremendously fun album to throw on, and those shows around at that time were some of my favorite. That said, I think L&T is one of the classics. Actually Time Out Of Mind too, but I listen to Together Through Life more. I think if I was a fan and in tune when Love and Theft came out, I'd probably be listing it in his top 3 period. Those shows around that time were fantastic as well, I'd consider '99-00 to be the best days of the Neverending Tour from what I've heard from bootlegs.

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Usually you find the bassist.Question Should a bassist play with a pick? You have seen picks and you've seen guys who simply use their fingers bare. You have a preference? Like the sound of one better than the other. Some say a pick is cheating? Thoughts?
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Not listening to streams. Did listen to 12/4/73 and 11/14/71 bonus disks. Both awesome. I am somewhat bummed the Boxzilla choice for '71 is not from November or December--lots of great playing there. Drummer: a jazz drummer, but to me the best now around--Eric Harland. Pretty much choose anything he is on live with numerous people and it is awesome. Country rock--early Poco, early Little Feat, Gram, all good
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As usual you are right on the money with the two Dillards albums. I also still listen often to Doug Dillards first album with Gene Clark, Ill call your monster drummer, and raise you: Joey Baron. Hes on loads of down town jazz albums, but try him with John Zorns Masada. Best drum solo, for entertainment, if not for musical quality:Fito from Canned Heat at the Rainbow, supported by Harvey Mandell and band. Twas the time of the streaking craze, and as Fito gets going with his Refried hockey boogie shtick, both bands run accross the stage stark naked, as you can imagine not a pretty sight with Bob Hite and Henry Vestine (Albert Ayler:you look like shit but you can play) Anyways, Fito cracks up, misses his concentration , and plays the band back in, guitars could hide the modesty of most members of the band, but not Bob Hite!

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Dogon, Ed Cassidy, yes! very cool drummer (and a skinhead...in 1968 ~ that must've really freaked people out). Spirit's first album and the Model Shop soundtrack have some great stuff. A couple other noteworthy rock drummers: Pete Thomas (Attractions/Imposters) & Michael Jerome (John Cale, Richard Thompson ~ I know him from RT, really creative & fun to watch). And back to jazz, Herb Alpert's current drummer Mike Shapiro is also really fun to watch. Got to see Elvin back in '98-ish, and wondered how much he'd have slowed down since the Coltrane days. Answer: zero : ) He gave a drum clinic & talk the next day for 10 bucks, too -- in attendance were, like, 25 drummers and me. What a treat. With props to Chick Webb & Philly Joe Jones, he shared that his favorite drummer ever was a guy on the street in South America who played with sticks, stones, and cans and greatly influenced his polyrhythms. But he still stressed the rudiments, too! His best advice came when asked who aspiring drummers should listen to: classical, world music, any genre, any instrument...just expose yourself to as many ideas as you can. Which really resonated, given the giant influence his drums (and Moon's) have had on my rhythm guitar playing over the years. Country rockers, if you've never heard the Nesmith/First National Band albums, check 'em out (if you can find them). Really fun stuff, with searing pedal steel from Red Rhodes. You've never heard "Listen to the Band" till you've heard their cowboy version.
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Does not matter to my ears. Phil does fine with a pick, Jack Casady is great with his fingers.You can also say that playing with an electric bass is cheating, since you have frets; or using a capo with a guitar. But neither is cheating.
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Haven't seen him mentioned yet, but I've always really enjoyed Larry Mullen Jr's work. I don't know that he is a guy who could sit in with other bands or perform outside of the context of U2, but he has added a lot of layers to their music over the years. And it has changed and evolved from his early rudimentary style through the more rhythmic sounds on Unforgettable Fire and Joshua Tree, and then into more electronic and percussive work in the 90s.
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I always preferred Geddy Lee (fingers) to Chris Squire (pick), but that is a marginal difference at best as they are both great. Ask me tomorrow, I am sure it will have changed. Love guys that play electric fretless, awesome tone. With the pick, you always get a more distinct clearer tone. With the fingers, you can get a little faster movement and action. But I don't know, too many good ones that play either style. I am trying to think but it escapes me, there is someone out there that does incredible work either way, and changes on the fly. My personal favorite bass is the Fender Jazz as its tone is clear throughout the neck. This leads to a better sound regardless of neck position, especially when low end can get washed out in large arenas. As far as drummers, again so many greats everywhere. One I like is another foundational drummer, Bernard Purdie. He played with Dizzie and Aretha and King Curtis. He developed the Purdie Half-Time Shuffle. This is the lick you hear on Toto's Rosanna, Led Zepplin's Fool in the Rain, Stealy Dan's Babylon Sister. Always loved that shuffle and use of ghost notes. edit: I am sure y'all have watched Tal Wilkenfeld play with Jeff Beck. So good, so young.
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I've been following along with these recent topics and have been quite influenced. So much so that I just ordered Sweetheart of the Rodeo and the first 2 Flying Burrito Bros. albums. I've always like Gram Parsons quite a bit, but the aforementioned albums always got shuffled to the end of my buying list. No longer! Y'all have sold me and I jumped in headfirst. As for the other topics d'jour... Drummers - I'm not one, nor do I profess to be an expert in the subject either, but I've always been very partial to the following (not in any particular order, though I will say that I think the first one I list is the best of the lot): Stewart Copeland, John Bonham, Keith Moon, Ginger Baker, Richard Ploog (The Church... very underrated), Levon Helm, Phil Collins (gets a bad rap due to his going so mainstream late in his career as a singer/songwriter, but the guy can flat out play the skins), Buddy Miles. As for Dylan... I'm only 45, but I've been on that bus since I was 15. The first time I heard Blonde On Blonde, I was in the club. Under the Red Sky, I believe, is a good album, and didn't deserve the bad reviews it got when it first came out. I think it suffered from being the Dylan album which was released just after Oh Mercy, which everyone seemed to love, myself included. Also, if memory serves me correctly, it came out just after or before the first installment of the Bootleg Series, which was fantastic, and in comparison, Under the Red Sky was a big drop-off. Muleskinner_Blues... what's your fave Dylan album? Mine is hands-down, Blood On The Tracks, but there are so many other fantastic albums that it's difficult for me to choose a #2. There are a few turds in the collection (Saved, Street Legal, Down In The Groove) but a bad Dylan album is still better than lots of stuff IMHO. As for recent Dylan.... Time Out Of Mind is easily my favorite. He deserved every award he got for that masterpiece.
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and Beating on Drummers. Quite the A List of musical side-projects. I guess that shouldn't surprise us. I've finished my first stream. Like many have already stated.. the '95 show exceeded expectations. Garcia sounded great as the aged, wise man on his later day ballads. You could tell he was no spring chicken on a few others. Still, it stood up. My last show was in '94, and to be honest.. it was bittersweet at best. We will see how my willpower holds up. Now back to revisiting and rewriting history. I think I am going to delve into the '74 Missoula show and see where the DS takes me this time.
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will check out Hoop Dreams for sure!
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You can do it. I am not sure about myself, but made it through one more day without streaming or peaking at the book.
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..we will see. I might do '94 over the next couple weeks. Surely a '95 and a '94 show can't do much harm.. right? I can quit anytime I choose. I will say this.. I took good advantage of the down time and revisited a few shows I really like. Guess what.. I still like them. :D I am surprised we aren't getting more takers on the Bolo clues to the next release. At least I think they are clues.. dust off that dusty deadbase just one more time. As soon as I get caught up on work I will give this more attention. I guess we need a third set of clues?
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I succumbed. I only wanted to look at the PDF book, but it was too easy once I got in there to run a few streams. This box will be a wonder. I still plan to wait to receive the CDs before I listen more critically. The streams are a great appetizer.
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Once you go in…rare is the man (or woman) who (willingly) comes back out. I feel your pain but since I have to wait until Xmas I've borrowed a boat load of music from my younger sister (the same Saint who's purchasing Boxzilla for me). I've also purchased the new Richard Thompson 'Still' deluxe as well as the new Rickie Lee Jones 'The Other Side Of Desire', and Todd Rundgren 'Global'.
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The PDF is what got me in too. Its like giving candy coated crack to a baby. You can't help but give it a taste.. I am trying to save that parts I know I will really enjoy.
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Bill Kreutzman 2/19/71 => 10/19/74
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I am still resisting any preview of the streams although I pretty much read the entire book. I want the first listen to be on something other than my computer or phone. But it looks more and more like I might have to get that Spring 1990 TOO box to satisfy my need for more immediate gratification.
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You people do realize that there is no prize for holding out, right? Bring on the streams, once the box arrives I'll start over!
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Not sure if he has been mentioned but love Matt Abts from Govt Mule. I am not a drummer myself but love the way he fits in on all the various Mule styles.It doesn't matter if its rockabilly..reggae..power trio..blues shuffle..or whatever Warren throws at him.....very unheralded
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There's only one directionIn the faces that I see And it's upward to the ceiling Where the chamber's said to be Like the forest fight for sunlight That takes root in every tree They are pulled up by a magnet Believing they're free The carpet crawlers heed their callers You gotta get in to get out
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Anyone selling the steamer box with the 73cds - if so I'm buying.... Offering $700 US to anyone selling and can ship to Aus included within that price - you can buy yourself 30 trips with that!
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I could buy the all music version heaps cheaper but not sure what discs come in - it says a generic box - does anyone know is this box strudy - does it have the europe logo on at least????
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Renaud Garcia Fons. Good start is his album Oriental Bass, but anything from this album onwards. Earlier records are also good, but here is where he hits his stride. No need to thank me for this precious gift...Then there are the game changers( nearly wrote game chambers as in Paul Chambers!), but I will make do with Scott Le Faro. In rock I always felt that Jack and Phil were in a league of their own, but its years since I listened to Jack, pretty much nothing since the Airplane crashed in fact. Good to see the love for Elvin in the drummers roll call, but thats a little obvious, get out of the Dead ghetto and dive into jazz my friends, there is a huge world out there waiting behind that door we are begining to crack open! And so I propose for you.....the pitter pattering of Paul Motion!
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Nice Genesis reference. ..seeing Hackett in a couple months, small venue third row. Thanks for reminding me.
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The box that the music only Europe 72 comes in is just a plain cardboard box. No logo or anything fancy. The CD cases are the thin cardboard ones where you slide the discs in and out of, like the Road Trips cases. Also, having all 30 shows on my phone has made it so I can listen to it anywhere. So I have, and anywhere I drop the needle the shows have all been great!!! I had planned to start at 66 and to go all the way straight through, but best laid plans of mice and men... Anyways, I hope they keep this streaming for as long as possible. This really does show that they were always chasing the sound, even up to the very end with so many new songs. Internet high five to Dave and Co. for excellent show choices once again!!!
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Jim, Giving it some serious consideration too - should be a no brainer, but it's the day after DSO at HOB.
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Easier call to make when we were in our 20's and under employed. I have to check the DSO schedule. NRPS are playing an hour from me tomorrow..(actually tonight). I'd like to go but I do not think work is going to cooperate. Those guys still have it going on.
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STREET LEGAL, a turd?!?? SAVED, a turd?!?! What is it about these albums that you cannot instantly connect with my friend? BOTT is my ultimate favorite as well, but Slow Train through Shot of Love are the true works of genius. Almost anyone can be cool some of the time, but no one can be cool ALL of the time. Bob disproved that right there. And the shows during that era. Best. Just the damn best. Always love to read through the transcripts of Bob's "sermons." Clinton Heylin's Behind the Shade has a good amount of 'em. And Street Legal... WHERE ARE YOU TONIGHT?!?!
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guys im selling individual shows from the 30 trips set for those heads wo cant afford or dont want all shows. all shows available except 66 67 69 70 71 72 and 73. shows 55us dollars each inc shipping from oz... email me at gilmourstephen@hotmail.com with requests...first come first served...also taking offers for book the single and the scroll...
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Right on, those gospel-era Dylan albums have tons of great songs. Even an atheist like me can appreciate the inspiration so plainly heard there. Where are You Tonight, In the Garden, Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar, Every Grain of Sand, New Pony, Pressing On, Lenny Bruce, Señor, Are You Ready, all amaze me. And I would include the album Infidels in this era (although the production is dated by that crazy drum reverb). Slow Train too, although I guess most folks know and like that one.
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I'm partial to the Bart Simpson one myself. The clown is rumored to be a scary, bad trip inducing clown.. so be verwry careful.
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Last night I had a dream that when I checked my inbox the next (this) morning the shipping notice would be there, stating that I would receive the box in 7 to 10 days. I was happy because I wasn't expecting the shipping notice email until later in October. I want off to work, and when I came home and pulled into my driveway, the USPS mail truck followed me in, as soon as I got out of my car, the letter carrier asks me my name & address to confirm it and asks me to help her get 2 parcels out of the back of her truck addressed to me. I look at the senders names & addys and both are from dead.net, both are the same size, but 1 is heavier than the other. Inside I open the lighter one and it's the 30 Trips box. YAHOO! I am elated because I got it early! I open the 2nd one and it's a case of Dogfish's American Beauty longnecks that just seem a bit different than a normal height 12oz longneck bottle. See my previous posts about the size of this box - a case of beer. My clock alarm chimes in and I wake up. The sweet dream is over. I live in Pennsylvania and I can't receive any alcohol thru the mail, except for wine & spirits sold by the PA Liquor Control Board so I know it was a dream, or nightmare, depending on how you want to interpret it. What was the basis for the dream? I was streaming Samson & Delilah from 10/3/76 Cobo Hall and really took notice to Phil's playing. I had streamed a sbd S & D from said show on Archive some time ago, but really didn't take notice of Phil's bass until I listened to this 30 Trips last night.
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uh ohh, cross eyed. I hope your kids didn't bring home any of those kiddie rub-on tattoo's Bach is warning us about... I have banned the scary clown version in my house.
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A lot of those Dylan albums from Street Legal through Infidels are not my favorite necessarily, but they are full of great songs and collectively are not at the bottom for me (that's reserved for Down in the Groove). Slow Train gets the most attention of the three gospel albums and there's some great stuff, but I find the production a little sterile and don't go to it often as a full album. When He Returns is a fantastic song though, as are several others on there. He took a lot of them much further live. Of the three, Shot Of Love is probably my favorite, looser and a little funkier. Though it's not without it's question marks..Lenny Bruce? Haha Street Legal...I love Changing of the Guards, Senor and Where Are You Tonight. Infidels has grown on me, but the production One Man mentioned can be tough to get by at times. Check out a live Jokerman, either the Letterman version or Woodstock '94. KYTrips - Even though I consider his modern stuff to be my favorite era (well...or maybe Rolling Thunder), I have a tough time not ranking Highway 61 Revisited and / or Blood On The Tracks as my favorite. It alternates..frequently. I think they are both examples of perfection. I love his pre-Freewheelin' blues and folk, mostly available on bootlegs but there are a few released example (Starbucks, Bootleg Series 1). The first album is also fun, if not completely indicative of his repertoire at the time. Has anyone heard him on Cynthia Gooding's radio program Folksinger's Choice in 1962? A lot of his blues and folk covers, plus the banter is hilarious.
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Love carpet crawlers...keep wishing some of the rumors of them wanting to revisit that would come true. May be too long in the tooth to do that. I got some incredibly tasty clown action back almost 30 years ago, but it was a big goofy clown face. Gone are the days...wish they could come back. Any folks have a good fungus book to read???
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Not too bad, I just received a 'last chance' address change notice because the box is shipping 'soon'.
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I've also just received the 'last chance' to change info email surrounding Boxzilla shipping. Deadline to reply is Friday 10/2 so I imagine these babies will begin to go out shortly thereafter. Looking forward to seeing who is among the firsties.
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Thank you for ordering the 30 Trips Around The Sun Box! Orders will begin shipping soon. To ensure that orders can be processed and shipped to their proper destination, please review your order details below. If an address change is required, please reply to this email or call 877-DEAD-NET. The final deadline to reply is October 2, 2015 at 11:59pm ET. After that your order will be processed as it was submitted.
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Got a last chance Address confirmation from Dead.net this AM! The final deadline to reply is October 2, 2015 at 11:59pm ET
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We've seen this before - then there was this delay (but not former US Congressman Tom DeLay of Texas) and some cancellations, with me included. Then, with financial help from somebody, I was back on the boxzilla bandwagon. I think this time it's for real - everything's perfect, time to ship. But somehow I think some folks will get boxzilla BEFORE the shipping notice email arrives in their inboxes. That has happened to me a couple times. I think shipping will begin the work week of October 5 at the earliest, but that's only my opinion. After all the announcement for Dave's 16 and it's shipping date of Sunday November 1st or Monday 11/2, is just around the corner.
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You must read the brotherhood of the screaming abyss........my Denis McKenna.... Younger brother to the one and only fearless psychonaut Terrence McKenna.....it's about his life with Terence and all their cosmic adventures..... Especially with the cosmic mushroom.... I'm really surprised that Terence's name never comes up on there's boards... Jerry' was really into his work.... Read it,... Blow your mind.... Your welcome.....
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I have it ordered. Thanks. Seems like I remember seeing a documentary on these guys, not sure. Did they have some funky math equations related to space travel or end of times scenarios? Can't wait to read. Also looking for a good cultivation resource... edit: yep I am sure it was a PBS special on these guys and the fractal timewave. Still doing a little side checking. Fractal patterns based on the I Ching. Stuff that is right up my wheelhouse of interest. Radio I Ching anybody?
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It'll all soon be moot if these "last chance" address confirmations are the tea leaves we think they are, Latvala willing. But the one person who could tell us what's been up with this box is a new name on the credits: Kate Dear. Responsible for "Package Supervision." Far as I can tell no online presence. Maybe marye can reach? Kate Dear has helmed "package supervision" on just one other big box set for Rhino before this one, if discogs.com is to be believed: the Yes Progeny 14CD set. Not nearly the beast that Boxthulu here is, but I still wonder, does anybody have that "Seven Shows From Seventy-Two" box to comment on?
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