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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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February 10, 2016 - 4:41pm

#181

jrf68@hotmail.com

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Off topic

Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
February 10, 2016 - 3:13pm

#182

LoveJerry

Joined:
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dharwin

Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
February 10, 2016 - 9:55am

#183

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
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FW 69 re-release

Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
February 10, 2016 - 8:31am

#184

mbarilla

Joined:
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FW69 Box set

if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
February 10, 2016 - 7:43am

#185

Roland Bruynesteyn

Joined:
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re-release FW'69

FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
February 10, 2016 - 6:37am

#186

Born Cross Eye…

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FW 69 box re-issue?

Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
February 10, 2016 - 6:14am

#187

Sun King

Joined:
September 19, 2007

shrine vinyl et al...

glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
February 9, 2016 - 7:28pm

#188

Charlie3

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Ramble On

Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
February 9, 2016 - 6:53pm

#189

Dennis

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Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices

I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
February 9, 2016 - 5:20pm

#190

dharwin

Joined:
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Just to be clear...

I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).

John Perry Barlow

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Kris

Speaking of singer-songwriters, deeply penetrating lyrics, oodles of people covering your songs, and country rock ~ check out Kris Kristofferson's debut album if you never have. Desert island disc.

Dylan concerts...

If you get a chance to see him..go for it. I haven't seen him in a couple years, but saw him 12 times from 2007-2013 and all the shows were awesome. He's still got a very good band behind him.

Response to Tony is Dead

Tony - I dont think its foolish to break up the set... My purpose is two-fold...1) to give those heads who cant afford the whole box or dont want all years - to select the shows they want and 2) to probably make about 200 bucks profit all up to cover the poor aussie exchange rate and shipping cost. I bought two sets - so i could be of service.... Also just bought the 18cd dylan box and selling the high-rez download card - so any offers - let me know - im keeping the box but NO need for downloads......

re: Hackett - I'm in!

November's going to be a big music month for me... Full immersion into 30 trips & DaP16. Seeing three live shows: Dead & Co, DSO, Steve Hackett Also got tix to see Disney in Concert in February - time to get my three year old seeing some live music!

white space between streaming tracks - could that be box issue?

I use Chrome on PC and Safari on iphone and hear the white space between songs. Is that the nature of those browser or could that be what the production issue that caused the delay? Maybe when the QC'd the final product they noticed the space between tracks and had to redo them for both versions of the 30 Trips??? I can't imagine they left off Vince from the box, but had Bruce. Since we got the pdf of the book, it's not the book... That would explain why the compilation was not delayed - a different song from each year. Either way getting psyched for the big delivery!!!

@chastason - 30 trips spoiler visual (and Kate too)

How can we get that gif of all of the covers and make an app for a smart phone? Wouldn't it be cool if a text message, phone call or email came in and your phone would start flashing that album cover gif??? Here it is if you missed it: http://imgur.com/SyLZIe2

Kris

the debut kristofferson album is a stonkin' classic. i got turned on to him, tripping, close range at the 1970 IOW festival, him and band performing those now classic tunes, rowdy french freaks to the immediate right of me throwing drink cans at the stage, kristofferson gallantly soldiering on but then beating a retreat - 'the natives are getting restless!' - all captured on audio, probably still available at archive.org (maybe?). the band got invited back two days later and played a peaceful sun drenched afternoon set. first time i ever saw american country music, and one of the best times i ever experienced it.

pre-order

What do you do with high resolution download? I mean do you burn it CDR or do you play it off of your computer or ipad if you have one? the debut kris Kristofferson album is pure classic not a bad song on the whole thing and the album is cohesive...you might want to get either the follow up or the one before title "silver tongued devil" not as good as the other one but decently close to it.

Dylan posts

Just want to say how much I've enjoyed all the posts on Dylan here--some really great stuff, just a ton of outstanding posts. Gary, I hope you'll let us know which Dylan album(s) you end up buying and what you think. Personally, Blood on the Tracks hits me on a level beyond anything else he's done but I can certainly understand why many consider some of his earlier albums as his best, especially Blonde on Blonde and Highway 61. Muleskinner, yes I have Tell Tale Signs, it's absolute gold and I agree that anyone who likes Bob should check it out. It looks like no one has mentioned Biograph so I'll just add that it's a great collection with some very cool alternate versions. I really like the Visions of Johanna on it. And listening to Biograph was the first time I heard Every Grain of Sand, mentioned earlier by One Man. I'm not a religious man but this song is beautiful. One last note: I bought Planet Waves earlier this year and gave it a couple good deep listens on a long drive. I've heard Forever Young hundreds of times but somehow, hearing it in the context of the full album it really moved me (the slow version that is). Maybe it's because my kids are teenagers now but I until recently I'd not fully appreciated what an incredible piece of songwriting that is.

I'm not too late, am I?....

....surprised no one mentioned Jon Fishman or Bugs from Los Lobos (who are playing here in five weeks btw)....maybe not The best, but worth noting.... ....Dylan....hmmmm....Blood On The Tracks is most special....that's all for now.... ....edit. Desire is pretty sweet too....

Alas my friend..

Its never too late.

Individual shows for sale - UPDATE

guys im selling individual shows from the 30 trips set for those heads wo cant afford or dont want all shows. following shows still available (9 gone): 68 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 88 90 91 92 93 94 95 shows 55us dollars each inc shipping from oz... email me at gilmourstephen@hotmail.com with requests...first come first served...also taking offers for book the single and the scroll...

That's a good profit saintstephen71 + super score

When's the Dave's 16 announcement.. Final pick of year and it better be Top Notch !!! Just scored a super stash, so Hopefully it's not one of these.. 8.4.67 3.19.77 12.27.77 6.27.84

Countdown Revisited

Either 14 OR 30 days until BOXZILLA ships.

fungus

pf tek

Rambling about Dylan

Hi all, I got into Dylan via the first three records, so maybe they're the best place to start, depending on where you're coming from. I guess I'll say Blood on the Tracks, Bringin' It all Back Home, and The Freewheelin' BD are the most essential in my eyes (ears?). Of the last 25 years, I'd concur with some others that Time Out of Mind is the best, with special mention of some songs that are for the ages (esp. Mississippi & High Water) on other records. I go through periods where Street Legal gets a LOT of play. John Wesley Harding is also high on my list. And, I dig the two early-90s acoustic/roots records, as well as Blonde on Blonde, if you skip the first track. Of the three 'gospel' LPs, Slow Train Coming stands out, in part because of some tasty guest guitarists, but Shot of Love has some outstanding tracks, too. If you've got the standard records and are eyeing the Bootleg Series releases, I'd most recommend vols 1-3, 8, & 11. What to avoid? At the bottom of my list are probably Brownsville Girl, Dylan, and Saved. Also, I'm also not really fond of listening to Empire Burlesque because I can't stand the production and some of the arrangements. Ultimately, there is no Dylan that doesn't get some ear time with me every so often, and this response could get really long if I head down this road any more. Happy Thursday morning, all--soon we'll be able to have 30 Trips with our coffee--greet the morning air with song!

How could I forget?!

Planet Waves! Definitely a favorite and one that gets heavy rotation in my life. When I had my two kids 8 and 10 years ago, "Forever Young" was enough to bring me to tears. And I love the 1st side ending>2nd side opener back to back versions on Planet Waves. Positively 4th St. was mentioned, and man, what a tune. And, since we are posting on a Dead forum, I must say, Jerry really brought soul to both "Positively..." and "Forever Young". Jaclyn and Gloria backing Jerry on the chorus of :"Forever Young" brings it home. Finally, I am glad someone mentioned Steve Earle's version of "There is a Mountain" at Lockn. That was really great. I have a recording of the set, and I have been looking forward to going back and listening to that one.

steve earle n lockn - matchewy

The neat part about steve and there is a mountain (IMO), was the first verse doesn't always come thru, but he hit the refrain the the crowd jumped on it. Could have just been me :-)I've downloaded virtually everything from lockn, bought the string cheese and my buddy bought WSP, but the rest came from youtube. Also as long as were hitting on the lockn,,,, I really liked the Anders Osborne set, never heard of the guy, but wow. Anyone looking for something do, google search "lockn 2015 Anders Osborne", great set. Would have like to seen Steve Earle do "the devils right hand". String Cheese set was incredible. Liked the WSP with Jimmy Cliff, closest I'm ever getting to hear the soundtrack from the hard they come! The Mad Dog set was great, susan really belted out "the letter"

countdown revisited - 14 or 30 days....

.....the sooner the better,,, AM I RIGHT!

Hackett - I'm in - November big month....

....don't forget 30 days of free dead! I always like that collection.

fourwindsblow

Didn't Anyone GET an e-mail from the dead? Oct 2nd is the last day to call them about your address so i'm leaning towards Oct. 5-15th for the boxes to ship...Dylan's biograph is outdated...there was a release about 2 years ago that came with the complete collection then released on it's own that has all the unique tracks on biograph...except maybe some live but that's been covered on the bootleg series..but that disc was also released on it's own about a year ago I think it's called "tracks".

e-mail from the dead

Yes I got one. Looks like the box will start shipping next week.

Johann

thanks for the tip!

side note!

Somebody turned me on to this awhile back. It'll make your head hurt, but the amount of info on here is astounding. http://deadessays.blogspot.com/

Matchewy

Thanks. That's it!In this case, to TPTB: "I forgot to mention something very important...Don't cross the streams off."

Dylan (Yep, I have to throw in my opinion)

Best (must have) albums: Highway 61 Revisited, Blonde on Blonde, Blood On The Tracks If those turn you on, I would consider supplementing with New Morning, Planet Waves and Street Legal. Want a live one? Bootleg Series Vol. 4: Royal Albert Hall '66 The "gospel" albums? Mostly not good. Each has a good song here or there, mostly rubbish. Street Legal is NOT one of the gospel albums. It MAYBE had hints of him going a spiritual direction, at best. And it's also a fairly good album, unlike the 3 to follow. I don't feel he's had an album worth mention since Love and Theft.

Genesis

A reunion would be awesome, though it probably wouldn't come close to me or be affordable. Phil Collins probably considers his time way more valuable than anyone can pay for. Someone said Hackett hates Gabriel. If that's true, how unfortunate. As far as I understand, there's no animosity with any of the other members.

drshakedown74 - side note

Incredible amount of data, donald trump incredible. Think it's worth printing off/downloading in case site disappears? If site stays up and is updated great, but if you get use to it and it goes.... :-( But thanks for pointing it out.

Guides to Inner Space

The Grateful Dead Guide and The Grateful Dead Listening Guide are indispensable online tools for the burgeoning Deadhead. Go on, ask me how I know! +1 PF Tek

@Tony_is_dead - Re: 10/2 email

If you scroll back a day or so you will see that several folks mentioned that they did in fact get the email. It was basically a rehash of one at the time of the delay, but it did say they were going to start shipping soon so I hope that means next week. In the meantime I am loving the stream! Haven't been able to stop it since I started about a week and a half ago. Not one subpar show yet. The '90's stuff is blowing me away! Really, really good. I guess it surprised me since I did not see the band after '87 and most of the comments here on Vince are negative. Well good old DL found some shows to put those comments to rest once and for all Rock on and long live Dave Lemieux! He is 'da man for sure

email

I would have to agree with fourwindsblow that the box could start shipping as soon as within the next week or so. The nest Dave's Picks should be announced then. Just realized that today marks the 21st anniversary of the '94 Boston show from the box, and a great one at that.

Bring on the Box !!!!

Maybe they are adding extras, lithographs, patches, or tee or something... toss in a couple bonus discs of primo cuts featuring each variation of the band.. good thing I didn't pay for shipping Lol !!! Bring on.. 6.19.76 for Dave's Picks 16 and Bonus disc of 2nd set of 6.27.76 !!! What's the word for RSD ?? Mono ?? List is small now but should have official news mid month

not to be a d*** ass

I am lost, what is RSD?

RSD

Record Store Day

thanks Jim

Always seem to forget record store day as I have never really participated. I guess I will head down to our local freaky record shop on that day just to check in. I am sorry that I might ask this question next year.

JRAD Stream

Joe Russos Almost Dead will be streaming via NugsTV for all three shows this weekend at the Brooklyn Bowl, New York. If you haven't.......you really should. Peace

Dylan

IMO Dylans best work came from 64-67, with Blonde on Blonde being the peak/best. Chimes of Freedom really is a turning point, in my opinion everything after that song was gold. Just as many of the people in the 60s, Dylan went far out and then sorta lost it and had to come back to earth in order to make sense of what just happened. I found that after my own psychedelic experiences I wanted to strap myself to a tree with roots. Its crazy how many people I know personally that went through years of psychedelia only to become farmers haha, its like you either lose it and end up forever in space or you come WAY back down to earth. I never listened to bluegrass until after years of psychedelic music,so happy I now get to enjoy Grisman,Bill Keith,OAITW, Muleskinner etc. I now find psychedelia in almost all music. Dylan being ahead of everyone by atleast a year(64-67) was the first example of this with the great John Wesley Harding and Nashvile Skyline. Love Blood on the Tracks(Especially the NY versions) and Desire; and though I am not Christian I feel very moved by SlowTrain, Bob's vocals and raw emotion really come through atleast for me. I haven't listened to much of his 80s work, though Jokerman is alright by me. For the 90s I really enjoy World Gone Wrong the most, GarciaGrisman also did renditions of a couple of the tunes on there. Tempest and Shadows in the night feel like gifts to the world to me and I really enjoyed both. If I had to choose one album from Dylan to take with me, it would be Blonde on Blonde.

Dylan

Always happy to engage in debate or critical analysis of the man.. On that note, he largely has been playing the same setlist since 2013 with minor tweaks along the way. Admittedly has taken a lot of the fun out of watching the setlists, which was like religion before that. But still great shows. His Fall tour started in Oslo today and benefiting from the time difference, he's already done. That's the only good thing about him touring on a different continent! So he started working some songs into Shadows In The Night first last Fall briefly and then earlier this year a bit more. Tonight's definitely unusual in that it had 13 originals and 7 covers, including several (obscure) Sinatra covers that weren't even on SITN. They were both recorded at the time of those sessions, and there has been rumors of a Shadows vol. 2, but still, pretty random. Haha 1. Things Have Changed 2. She Belongs To Me 3. Beyond Here Lies Nothin' 4. The Night We Called It A Day 5. Duquesne Whistle 6. Why Try To Change Me 7. Pay In Blood 8. I'm A Fool To Want You 9. Tangled Up In Blue (intermission) 10. High Water (For Charley Patton) 11. Full Moon and Empty Arms 12. Early Roman Kings 13. Come Rain or Come Shine 14. Spirit On The Water 15. Scarlet Town 16. All Or Nothing At All 17. Long And Wasted Years 18. Autumn Leaves (encore) 19. Blowin' In The Wind 20. Love Sick

When will the box ship?

Who really knows, I don't have "inside information."My guess is the first week of October, starting on Monday the 5th. My early guess. My guess for the delay is related to the Europe 72 Steamer Trunk box. If you recall, many discs were sent out unpolished and it appeared that there were scratches on the playing surface and that each of the show disc sleeves were made with flimsy cardboard, a thinner grade that the Road Trips series cases. People seemed gypped and there were a lot of complaints, and Rhino had to send out a whole lot of new discs and sleeves. Or something like that. I was one of the lucky ones who had everything just exactly perfect on the Europe 72 box.

Not A D* A Gary

RSD = Record Store Day

rdevil and Dylan

Rdevil: I will update on Dylan and what I think for sure. Been reading and absorbing all that is being written. Love it, especially since this will all be a new experience to me. Been making notes, checking Amazon. Unfortunately, I think I am about to have yet another big music order for 2015. But hey, what else is there do do but music, coffee, Blueberry, and good beer on the weekends! That's the Spirit!

Thanks Dave

I appreciate that very much. Side note: there are a few seats for John Prine and Jason Isbell for tomorrow night. Anybody have any feelings on them. I know Jason pretty well but John Prine is still Virgin territory for me. But wow, some seats are spensive.

Gary...John Prine

Gary,go if you can. John is an icon of American folk music and one of our greatest living songwriters.His voice is kind of rough these days but doesn't take away from the songs. I have seen him several times since 91 or so and it's always been great.

Recent Topics

RE: Bob Dylan 'Rainy Day Women 12 & 35'Since 'Blonde On Blonde' has been cited so much, I have to ask, how long did it take you to realize the refrain "Everybody must get stoned" was meant in Biblical terms not hedonistic ones? Truth be told, it took me some time (admittedly I can be a lunkhead). RE: Country Rock has anyone given Jorma Kaukonen's solo albums a listen? If not, do yourself a favor, there's some great music to be had. Let's face it, he's an extended member of the GD family and he was (supposedly) Bob Weir's guitar teacher when BW first arrived in SF. 'Samson & Delilah' is a Rev. Gary Davis song, JK is a RGD fan, so maybe BW heard it here first? RE: Genesis a friend (a Genesis fanatic) told me when Collins, Banks, and Rutherford were in rehearsals for the last/final Genesis tour, Gabriel and Hackett met up with them in Scotland for discussions for a possible 'Lamb' tour. Nothing was ever decided since Collins was citing a severe, ever worsening back condition and Gabriel had problems with how to portray a 20 year old Rael as a middle aged man. There was even talk of having LucasFilm devise a new slide show to play behind the band while they played the music. To my knowledge it never went beyond the "talk".

John Prine

Yes! Yes! Yes! 'Come Back To Us Barbara Lewis Hare Krishna Beauregard' - play it at your next keg party!

John Prine

The man is incredible. Having first heard his work via Joan Baez on Hello in There from Diamonds and Rust, I was a fan from there. He has an incredible catalog of music. I think of him and Tom Waits together. Writers that most people have heard songs from, done by other artists. Although I love them both as artists. I was playing Clocks and Spoons today on guitar, and it's just a fun song to play. Never get tired of it. I've had the pleasure of listening to a friend who knows John talk about the fun they've had talking until dawn at shows. Would love to be a fly on that wall.

Genesis...

Interesting, yet pleasing that the conversation here took a turn toward Genesis. As a young lad, I succumbed to the Sirens song known now as Progressive Rock and Roll. This before I really "listened" to the Grateful Dead. I have to admit that I still love the genre. Suffice to say that I will be attending the upcoming Steve Hackett show. I write this while listening to Nursery Cryme (Fountain of Salmicis just starting). I've decided not to stream the shows from the looming box, passing the hours instead with many old favorites: John Prine, Duke Ellington, Fairport Convention, Johnny Winter, Hot Tuna, Govt. Mule, Crazy Otto, etc... As has been suggested here earlier, anyone interested in what a Gabriel era Genesis show was like would do well to check out The Musical Box if the opportunity presents itself. Oh, and if anyone is keeping count, I plan on listening to the shows in order '66-'95. Apologies for the long winded comment, I'm at the bottom of a growler of local Oktoberfest and feeling a bit chatty. Rock on! Peace

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