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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #6631
    KeithFan2112
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    Speaking of Decline
    Yeah Palmer, you bring up a good point. What happened to Bob Weir's guitar sound in the late 70s? I want to call it choppy flamenco, but I don't know why I want to call it that. It's something in the tone of his guitar that changed a whole bunch. I may be morphing into pre-hiatus guy....I've always maintained that they were better with just Billy on drums, and that almost anything they played on the Europe '72 tour sounded better in '72 than it did after the hiatus (Bertha, Cold Rain, New Minglewood ((Ladies & Gentlemen - wow)), Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, Promised Land, Deal, the list goes on. But there was so much good stuff I like in 77/78 - Scarlet Fire, Music Never Stopped, Estimated Eyes, Help-Slipknot-Franklin, The Wheel, Samson, the list goes on.
  • #6632
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    For the Shakedown Sessions, I don't think it was that he wasn't welcome to the studio, its that there were days that he didn't even show up, especially towards the end. Jerry, in particular, was pissed and asked John Kahn to finish. He even has keyboard credits on the album. Wouldn't that qualify to some of the comments at least? I also think Keith's playing is brilliant for most of his career with the Dead, and I often spend large amounts of time listening to the Keith Years. I also think band members opinions count. So there's a lot to this, but most importantly I don't recall any significant volume of people bashing Keith's playing on this thread. ..and if there are some comments you might not like, they are almost always in response to someone stirring the pot with Brent bashing, which certainly offends people. I was just highlighting that for a host of reasons Feb '17th was their last show, so lets be thankful for what we have instead of dwelling on what we cannot impact. It is what it is. That's all, nothing personal.
  • #6633
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    Just finished listening Row Jimmy from 3/20/77. Keith sounds great backing up Jerry's fine, lyrical solo, but is clobbered by every hit of Mickey's bass drum. I think this was mentioned a few weeks ago; very apparent to me on this track. To my ears, it sounds like there was a change in the mix from 76 to 77; more emphasis on the drums(esp. bass drum), and a less "crispy" bass, making the overall sound a little muddier than it was.
  • #6634
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    I love the keyboard/era debates!
    I don't agree that "old" topics, such as era- and keyboard debates should be retired. This day's posts has been the most interesting here to me in weeks: from floridabobs culture reflections all through the Keith decline discussion. Almost anything that generates a flurry of thoughtful posts seems cool to me as long as it's civil. As a lifelong Deadhead, I think the era/keyboard debate is perfectly relevant and (for me) endlessly fascinating (well, nearly endlessly). I'm extemely conflicted and ambivalent about most of the Dead's post-hiatus music and have been that way for >35 years. Where else can we talk about these things? If we only stuck to the forum topic, we all know these threads dry up quickly and become boring as all hell. My guess is that,era/keyboard discussions generate the most interest here, despite complaints about "old, well worn" topics. Anyone really bored can just scroll though topics that don't interest them. I did draft a long post to contribute to the Keith decline discussion but lost the draft. Basically, I agree with LoveJerry. Keith sounds fine to me in the late 70's but as someone pointed out, he seems very low in the mix. Yes, there is a huge difference in Keith's playing E72 and May 77; but the same could be said for Phil and Bobby's playing. How could anyone not notice a similar decline in their playing? Listen to any of Bob and Phil's playing from the late 70's compared to, say Fillmore 2/69, E72, or WInterland 73. Night and day.
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    hahahaha What?? He stole Jerry's stash??
    No wonder he wasn't welcome (and no wonder he couldn't finish the Shakedown Street session). Hey hey, Jerrylover, don't drag my name in the mud lol. I only said he was a fair pilot. No but really Keith Moon was like the tazmanian devil with drumsticks. If anyone has heard his live stuff from Tommy and Live at leads, in that '69 - '70 zone, you know what I'm talking about. I can understand why Clapton or Baker (I forget which one) would have given that snide expression when asked about Moon's talent compared to Baker, because Ginger was great, a time keeper, an arranger, and so much more than a drummer when it came to making music, but Moon was off the rails excellent, and completely untouchable from '68 - '73. But if you compiled the best live 2 hours of Moon with the best live 2 hours of Baker, Moon is a step or two ahead. What Baker brought to music composition, Moon brought to live performance.
  • #6636
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    I am asking "us" because "us" are the folks who frequently say Keith's playing declined without a lick of evidence to substantiate that assertion. Forget what you've read on Wikipedia or wherever, since it's not exactly a well documented topic, and listen to the music - where is it? Did Phil really say that? If he said it, is it true? In a court of law it's nothing more than hearsay. Give me a song or just recognize that every time someone comments that his playing declined is probably going off the Wiki quote or the comment from Blair Jackson's book (thanks for sharing, never saw it before), but a couple of off-handed subjective remarks do not make it true, and they don't hold up to scrutiny, which is my main point. People are regurgitating hearsay that does not hold up to scrutiny - no wonder politicians lie so much - it's so easy to pass lies off as truth to the masses. It's actually kind of scary. It would be interesting to scan this site for the past several months to see how often this unsubstantiated rubbish was repeated. I kind of feel bad for Donna. And the reason I didn't bring up anything like drug use or marital problems is because it has nothing to do with my argument, which is simply that his playing did not suffer on the stage, and I have the tapes to prove it :-) Or maybe I don't - I am willing to admit I was wrong or uninformed, which is why I posted in the first place - to find out if anyone can point to a performance where his playing was off. Keithfan mentioned Keith Moon - at least when his playing was said to have declined before his death, you can hear it in recordings (Kilburn 1977, Who Are You). That I believe, because it's well documented and easy to hear.
  • #6637
    KeithFan2112
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    Of course I agree with LoveJerry - not because I'm a Keith fan, but because it's true - there is really very little primary source evidence that Keith's playing deteriorated. Wikipedia? Even if Phil said it, ex-bandmates deride each other all of the time, it's the single most predictable type of slander they throw at one another. I'm sure he nodded off at the wheel a few times, but that's hardly a deterioration in skills. Not that it's a good thing. But I get LoveJerry's sentiment, which I might also add was not an argument about the reasons he left the band so much as a defense of his playing. So while yeah, some folks have pointed out that there was drug use and whatever, the main point is that folks comment about Keith's deterioration of skill on here all the time, presumably because they read a Wiki quote or Blair Jackson comment - yet the evidence, the music betrays the notion that there was anything substandard in his playing. If I'm reading her post accurately she's just asking someone to point out which songs/shows/period demonstrates this decreased ability to play, and indignant (correct me if I'm wrong JerryLover) that when the topic of his departure comes up, everyone always says he couldn't play, he couldn't play, he couldn't play. I have, myself tried to substantiate that claim that he could no longer play, but just can't find it. The proof should be in the pudding, but it's not. Long live Keith. Both of them - Keith Moon drummed circles around Ginger - he just colored out of the lines a lot.
  • #6638
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    Why ask us? We didn't kick him out of the band. There's a few factors you are not bringing up besides his playing. I don't think any of us question he was a brilliant piano player loaded with talent. But.. First there was his escalating drug use. By late '78 Keith had a heroin addiction (and for that matter so did Jerry). Towards the end of Shakedown Street, Keith couldn't even be found to finish the keyboard tracks on some of the unfinished songs, so John Kahn of all people filled in and did them. In Rock Skully's book, Rock states Keith was rumored to have stolen Jerry's stash once, which really pissed off Jerry. Shortly after that, Keith wasn't part of the JGB. Can't ask any of them if its true because they've all passed by now.. but I don't think there's much doubt about their drug use and drug of choice in these years. There was also the relationship trauma. There were regular fireworks between Keith and Donna on a regular basis. Violent fights, trashed hotels, smash up derby's in the parking lots, ...drama.. tension.. yuk. And then there was his playing. I think his playing had diminished or at the very least was not consistent by late '78, early '79 and, well, the sad truth is.. you can't get rid of Jerry and I'm not sure if having two junkies in the band was something they wanted or could continue with. Keith and Donna wanted to leave too. I think she left a few shows early in one of the last tours because she couldn't take it either. Remember, they were trying to raise small kids at the time. So its well documented that the parting was mutual. I'm not sure what is to be accomplished by going down that rabbit hole. They left and they got a new piano player. We weren't there, but I imagine if we were and if we were privy to all the facts and details.. well, my guess is one way or another, that darkness had to give. One Edit: I read cousins reply (which was classic). Yes, amateur slide guitar hour. aaaack! Love ya Bobby... but on this one, I agree with my cousin. He supposedly started playing more slide to get the sounds he (they) wanted they keys. ..and yes, Donna in particular was drinking a lot, but Keith was chasing the dragon.
  • #6639
    JimInMD
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    I agree with your post. I think most people's minds on this are 'set like concrete'. The back and forth is usually non-productive, and I can't say I learn a ton from it.. especially when the posts come with barbs or put down another's tastes or preferences. I actually don't see the debate, I like the Keith years.. but spring '79 was their last hurrah, and enter the '80's and they got a new keyboard player. It is what it is. I am thankful someone pressed "record" on the tape deck, sit back and enjoy (or press skip if there's out there that doesn't tickle your pleasure bone).
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    Check out JGB live shows from 1978
    Some great stops along the way from Keith in 1978. And another vote for Red Rocks July 7-8, 1978. Tennesse Jed ; Passenger ; Peggy-O ; The Music Never Stopped Killer four piece combo to end first night 1st set
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by g1u2i3 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:25

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Same here. No ID tagging. Right now I'm listening to 1966 on my Bluray, moving forward through the years, and importing 1995 into iTunes (Mac) moving backward through the years. I'm not getting any Disc information on my Bluray or my iTunes. These are the only 2 years I've checked so far, but it's probably the same on all the other CDs.
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:36

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Hearing about the defects really makes me hope mine turns up and is "Just exactly perfect". I really thought, based on the pics, that the box was going to be flimsy. If I had bought an extra 30 Trips in order to sell the shows individually, I'd definitely send my spare, empty box to someone with these terrible issues. The misunderstood lyrics stories compel me to mention that recently when I listen to "Bertha", I always think "Birthers don't you come around here.. anymore.." :-)
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:27

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....the cases weren't ala May '77 style. Those are perfect, and thin, and chrome.... (sorry, threw a Fury Road reference out there)....
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:34

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....the May '77 box presentation kicks major ass....
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Submitted by Nanno-1974 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:34

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I received a shipping email from dead.net last hour. Of course, I clicked the link for the tracking number, and it stated the package was delivered at 2:22 PM this afternoon. Huh...that's a surprise, as I didn't see anything when I arrived home at 5:00 PM. Of course, I check the front door, back door, side door, garage door and every possible place around the outside of my house, but no package in sight. I called UPS to find out some details about the delivery, but all they could do was confirm delivery. They asked me a bunch of questions, and opened an investivation. I then called dead.net, and they asked an additional bunch of questions. Apparently they can't/won't do anything until the investigation is over, which may take 7-10 days, but the entire "investigation process" seems rather informal. Apparently dead.net put me on the "manager's list," which apparently is a list of customers that have not received items that were ordered. Anyway, I really don't trust that this situation will work out, with these "investigations" and "manager's lists" going on. I feel extremely hopeless and 'in the dark.' Why the fuck aren't signatures required for delivery of this box? Y'all enjoy the music. At least I have access to the stream... but I'm out $750.
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Submitted by EGroesbeck on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:37

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I received my email about my box set being shipped about 6 hours after I received the box set! So, I guess the lesson is don't fret about not getting the email! In examining the entire set I found my box to be in great shape and every disc present. Of course it will be a long time before I know that they all play well, but I'm confident if I find a flawed one that the Dead organization will replace it asap. BTW: I live in Michigan and my box shipped from Virginia.
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:41

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Wilfred.. I used those cd cases during my late teens and early twenties, until I started noticing cds that were pretty much brand new were already coming out scratched. Those will also totally jack up your cds eventually. I think it's because dirt and/or sand eventually gets in and scratches them.
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:44

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Where do you take yours? Off-roading? I leave mine stationary in my library. All of them are ripped and stored, used minimally. So, for me its YES, YES, YES! No, really it has been great for me.
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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:53

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I know, he's about as amusing as a hemorrhoid isn't he? I'm still wondering what rock he crawled out from under. Someone had voiced concern about the 7 inch single getting scratched because of the wood this morning, I forget who. But...there appears to be a well concealed paper sleeve on the inside of it that it slides into. g1u2i3, glad to hear you hooked up with someone in customer support who can help. I guess they must produce extra box sets in case there are damaged ones. I don't see an actual number anywhere on the box (like 59 / 6500). I thought I read they would be numbered, did I dream that? dude77 I was surprised you had a box cutter incident - I wonder if there will be others. I know Dr Rhino is aware of the last box cutter incident....
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:53

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....the boxes ship from Pennsylvania and Virginia? Ahhhh....the DaVinci code strikes again. Why not ship from California?....
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Submitted by kaustin7 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:54

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I am up to the 69 show so far. Everything sounds amazing, the multitrack from 67 is excellent. I received the box last night, with that being said, I received a shipping notification a couple of minutes ago.
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Submitted by TheDude77 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 19:59

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The # is on the scroll. Mine was #1001 I think. I was also surprised about the box cutter. Can't believe that is still going on. Even joked about it with customer service. The other damaged case in my box looks to be either a cut or rip that goes straight down the spine for about 2 inches.
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Submitted by redemption searcher on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 20:05

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I've got 10/30/91 Oakland ticket (only $22.50-boy those were the days) and 8/21/93 Eugene backstage pass. Went to all the '94 Eugene shows, and strangely enough don't even remember them playing there in '93 until I saw this. Saw someone has 5-15-93 Vegas, not only went to that but it was my birthday, so I would trade for that. Was also in 4th row in front of Vince on his b-day on 2-21-95 and would trade for that. The only real box set design problem I noticed is the 45 looks cool in the lid, but to take out seems hard to do without scratching it and would like to play it eventually. The sleeve is pretty much stuck in there and ain't coming out. It'll be a while before I can really have the time to listen to all this, 30 shows, jeez.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 20:12

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Wilfred, I also use a case similar to that. I bought one that holds maybe 500, but a binding ring in one of the sections broke due to putting too many CDs in the case - my lesson was you can't really put 500 in the model I bought (but I digress). I bought the case because I was inadvertently tearing up the cardboard CD cases like E72 and most other recent boxes come in, from taking the discs out and putting them back in repeatedly; and also, my CDs don't get all scratched up now, like a Road Trips special (what were those cases made out of? sandpaper?) But what is really awesome, is I am up to 3 cases now, and I decorated them with Grateful Dead stickers. They look almost as cool as the E72 trunk, although I had to use fabric glue on most of them to keep them sticking to the material of the case. Then I took the actual CD cases everything came in, and I have them lined up on my e-center shelves. Needless to say, none of this makes my wife happy, as it's all right smack in the middle of the family room, which I've commandeered as my man cave. She acted surprised when I took the shelves over, but really, what did she expect after I hung 24x18 inch pictures of each member of the Who (and various other rock memorabilia)?
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Submitted by DJMac520 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 20:15

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If anyone wants to trade that ticket PM me
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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 20:23

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I haven't opened the scroll yet. I know I won't be able to get it rolled back up correctly.... The gold record - my take on it was that the sleeve is supposed to stay inside so that the record does not get scratched when you take it out and put it back. I really like it, I think it looks awesome when you open up the box. BTW - a couple of areas on my box also have the overlay covering coming unglued a bit (Howie came unglued??? No!....) Up on the side of the lid and on one of the name tag covers. I keep pushing back in.....
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 20:24

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Seems to be moving right along. Last scanned departing from Hodgkins, IL.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 20:45

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Which is better - or are they the same? 1) Ripping to mp3 directly from source CD 2) Ripping to mp3 from WAV file that was ripped from source CD? I want an mp3 and WAV copy of each of my 30 Trips shows. Option #2 above is much faster - but am I losing audio quality? I use iTunes to do all of this. I Googled it, and it sounds like they should be the exact same quality, as WAV is an uncompressed lossless rendering of a store-bought CD; but I've seen you debunk a lot of logical suppositions I've had about audio quality in the past, so I thought I would run this one by you when you have a minute. Thanks!
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 20:49

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The only thing I've gotten,like I mentioned earlier,was a ruse e-mail from DHL International saying it was here but there was nuttin'.Once again,crazy fingers crossed....
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 21:06

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....my precious is coming from Hodgkins as well. Perhaps they are strangers stopping strangers, just to shake their hands on the same truck. Lol!!!.... ....edit (duh again)....Lord, bless that truck and it's driver. You carry more special cargo in that rig than you realize....drive safe brother.... ....These are The Days Between....hell yeah!!....
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Submitted by beereel58 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 21:21

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Not delivered yet, it should be here by Monday or Tuesday.The courier is DHL. Keeping my fingers crossed and...my wallet ready.Ouch!
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Submitted by Moses Quasar on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 21:34

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Got my shipping notice...hopefully tomorrow....definitely Monday.....enjoy folks.......
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Submitted by terrapinx on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 21:40

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If they'd just surprised us with the tickets/passes I'd not care, but I got the Oregon '93 backstage pass, but no ticket. Everything else looks good though.
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Submitted by Redlodge on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 21:55

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Number 21 arrived in Alabama today with a GA ticket for 1991/10/27. The first show is outstanding.
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Submitted by ecb on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 22:22

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For those breaking up their box... I would like to purchase the book. Send a PM. NFA
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 22:41

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....I think I found my twin. ecb, you look familiar....
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Submitted by saintstephen1971 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 23:17

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Not sure I expected any less but yes - the remaining individual shows for sale are those 'classic' vince shows.... Shows: 90 - $35US 92 - $35US 93 - $35US 94 - $35US 95 - $35US Or $155 for all 5 90s shows above email me at gilmourstephen@hotmail.com Once they're gone - I'm gone - oh and One Man, Space Brother and boblopehope-ona-rope or whatever your name is - see y'all at the next limited edition ;)
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 23:25

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Not only did I not stream any of the music, I also didn't watch any of the seaside chats - I know the number appears on the scroll but what's the story with the "Miracle"? I'll be checking mine tomorrow.
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Submitted by planet1 on Fri, 10/09/2015 - 23:30

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Any other London based deadheads also getting hit with £77 duty charge? I thought it was included on shipping costs?
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Submitted by planet1 on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 00:23

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Please can you comment, I've just forked out another £88 duty charge, is this correct? Bummer I say if correct for UK heads. I'm moving back to Cali, F this can't afford to keep paying for extra duty. I'm happy the Dave's Pick's don't have a duty charge, although In the past my Road Trips did and i questioned that too and looks like i was paying extra, so that is why i am asking again?
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Submitted by Steve Jones on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 01:26

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To deal with two of the questions raised here:Customs charges are unavoidable on packages on this size and 88 quid seems about right. Nowadays small packets like the dps will slip thru the system as it is not worth the effort of recovering the various dues even though they recently changed the regulations in the uk anyway so that they could do this on such items. However, an item valued at 699 dollars and packaged in a huge box will not be "slipping thru" so we are stuck with the charges. On this international customers should check not only their mobile phones for text messages from Dhl but also their landline answering machines or message services - I got an audio message from Dhl giving details of how to pay the charges online. Don't wait for the email from dead.net to arrive. On ripping your CDs. For general use just rip to 320kps MPs. Unless you have bloody good hearing or a very good sound system you will not notice any drop in sound quality. For backup copies which can be used to burn new CDs for example or play on a high res machine ( assuming you haven't gone for the usb stick which contains actual high res files) rip to flac or wav or even just use the alac option on iTunes which will give you the same lossless quality with smaller files.
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Submitted by drsox on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 01:50

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In Europe what you will pay to import this box is made up of three charges : 1. Import taxes (anywhere from 0% to 16% in my country). Fortunately these CDs are at 0% in my country. 2. Sales Tax (VAT, TVA, MwSt, BTW, MOMS etc etc) - 21% in my country. 3. DHL handling charges for dealing with 1 and 2 - € 14 in my country. It also depends on the value of the box - less than $ 25 or so and there's no charges. More than $ 25 and you get hit with 1 2 and 3. Doesn't matter whether it's a gift or not.
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Submitted by AliceD on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 02:11

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Raining in Pittsburgh today. I was snoozing on the couch with my cat Jack snoozing on my chest. He suddenly jumped off me in fright which woke me up. I heard the sound of a truck driving away and saw it was the UPS guy. Peeked out the window and the box was sitting outside the door. Gotta thank Jack for not allowing box to get wet! I know I'm in the minority here but I've decided to listen chronologically to one show a week. Oughta keep me smiling thru another depressing Pittsburgh winter. Enjoy everybody!
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Submitted by wjonjd on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 05:35

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I don't think KeithFan was asking what quality settings to use in his mp3's, but rather, whether there is a quality difference when ripping to mp3 straight from CD, or converting wav to mp3, using iTunes. I use ITunes also, so after seeing Keithfan's comment, I did some testing with AudioInspector, and got results I was not expecting. I used the Music Never Stopped track from the '95 show in the 30 Trips box. First, just so you know what I used for testing, when ripping into ITunes to mp3 I use 256 vbr with all other settings set to highest quality - I've tested, and I cannot hear the difference between this and 320 cbr at all, and these are about 15% smaller files. Your mileage might vary. For this test I ripped directly from CD to ITunes mp3, and then used dbpoweramp to rip to wav file, then imported the file to iTunes and converted to mp3. The resulting mp3 are very similar (almost identical) in every respect except one - the total frequency range. For some reason the frequency range from low to high is 13,479hz ripping right from CD into ITunes mp3, but 15,202hz importing the wav file then having iTunes convert to mp3. The actual range analyzing the wav file ripped from CD is 16,322. It appears that having iTunes convert wav to mp3 is superior to having iTunes rip straight from CD to mp3. One other interesting thing I found. I found clipped samples in the iTunes mp3's regardless of direct from CD or from WAV, even though there are no clipped samples on the CD or in the extracted WAV file. One of the options under mp3 in iTunes that I use is the "Filter frequencies below 10Hz" option. These frequencies are completely inaudible, and the description of this option is: "Select to filter inaudible frequencies, which results in smaller, more efficient files without perceptible loss of quality." Well, it turns out that when I turn this option off, and use iTunes to rip from CD to mp3 or import the wav and convert to mp3, no more clipped samples! And, the mp3 files sizes were virtually identical with or without the 10hz option set. I will no longer be using this option. To answer your question, since you're already ripping to wav anyway, having iTunes create mp3 from the wav files is actually superior (and faster) than having iTunes rip directly from CD to mp3. I tried to determine why it was truncating frequencies (it wasn't the 10hz option which had no effect on this), but there is no option that accounts for this. It just does it. As Steve mentioned, you may as well store your lossless backup files in a lossless compressed format, like flac, shn, or apple's lossless (alac). I'm assuming you are not using the lossless files as your iTunes database or you wouldn't be doing both mp3 and lossless, so any of the above lossless formats would work fine, and make your files almost half as large. Apple products won't play any lossless compressed formats directly except alac, but several other players will play flac directly without your having to uncompress them first. Hope that helps!
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Submitted by Alain on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 02:46

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I sent you a PM. :-)Nice to see so many people happy to have received the magic box! Alice, like you, I'll listen chronologically to one show a week.
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Submitted by william.jasinski on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 05:06

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It's weird, because the CD player in my car showed song information. So it's on the discs somewhere.
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Submitted by jcure on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 05:07

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Haven't received boxzilla yet but would love to trade for 6/21/93 pass - my first and only show. Will update when mine arrives.
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Submitted by drcomedy1966 on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 05:17

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Steve, did you go ahead and pay the charge online? And do we have to do this before they will deliver? DHL couldn't tell me anything when I called them....
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Submitted by One Man on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 06:07

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So glad to hear about the excitement everyone has over receiving 30T. Nothing here in ATL as yet. I'll check status today. Funny, the UPS van sped past my house just as I got home from work yesterday and you should have seen the frown on my face. Thanks to Jon for the mp3 experiment outcomes. That is a lesson. And I agree, just rip them to lossless first. Storage is cheap, and you'll want those lossless files as backup to the CDs. Then you can convert if you need smaller files for portability. Although - I use my iPhone (5S) to hold ALAC files and they work great. Plugged into the car stereo with a USB cable, it's like Carnegie Hall in the cab of my Tacoma. The lying, supremely annoying bandit is asleep now, down under, dreaming his bogan dreams. But he'll be back, as promised. Get your Vince era shows at his "final" price while you still can!
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Submitted by wjonjd on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 05:54

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I deleted my response because it was incorrect. There was an update to Redbook standard that includes CD-Text to store album name, track names, and some other info. These are not ID tags. The CD-Text is not what computer software like iTunes, winamp, etc, uses - these pull info from internet databases, although some can also read CD-Text. But, stereos, cars CD players, etc., read the CD-Text information from the CD.
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Submitted by Kayak Guy on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 06:28

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Musictoday is an entertainment marketing company located in Crozet, near Charlottesville, Virginia. It was founded and run by Coran Capshaw, the manager of Dave Matthews Band. It is now owned by Live Nation. It also distributes Zappa.com, Hendrix.com, Govt Mule and many other bands web sites that offer stores. Rhino uses them for distribution for GD.net too, but don't mention it. I also suspect they are the people that "manage" this site for Rhino as all customer service phone calls are handled in VA.
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Submitted by dissident1980 on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 06:19

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Once the Box is received, the decisions begin as to what to listen to. My order thus far: 2 22 69, 4 15 70 (incredible Other One jam), 10 3 76 (1st disc), 9 28 75, 9 18 74 ... The Dijon 1st set is amazing right out of the gate, UJB Jack Straw Friend of the Devil BTW and Scarlet Begonias, epic
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Submitted by g1u2i3 on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 06:36

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wjonjd & william.jasinski - thanks for sharing! So, wjojnd, shouldn't my bluray read the CD Text info like a car CD player? Because it isn't. And this is the only thing I've bought from dead.net that didn't have the ID tags when I imported them into iTunes. Very odd. Lots and lots of typing and double verifying correct input ahead . . .
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Submitted by drsox on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 06:43

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DHL said that would send me an SMS with details how to pay. Until you pay they won't deliver. I guess the SMS will give you a payment reference for their website for payment by Credit Card.
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Submitted by alvarhanso on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 06:48

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Ticket was 5/27/93, pretty cool to get a released show ticket, and the backstage pass was 3/22/95, which, since I'm a NC guy is awesome. The book is engrossing, only read the show notes in the .pdf, so the essay is fantastic, especially holding that awesome book. I've ripped the shows from '66-73, and will start burning them after work. I listened to '66 through my studio monitors last night, and it sounded great! Still planning to listen in order. Right now, since I'm at work for another 7 hours, I'll just start my stream back up. Almost done with 1985. :)
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Submitted by wjonjd on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 07:44

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When you imported to iTunes it didn't pull any tags because no one has uploaded them to Gracenotes yet. I will get might up there. I don't know about the bluray player reading CD-Text. I know that not all players read CD-Text. Final Edit: I've got 66-95 all uploaded to gracenotes. **Also, if you get the ones I uploaded, it will be in my slightly odd format. The albums names I use are just "67/11/10 Los Angeles, CA Shrine Auditorium" as one example. I change most "and" to "&", and I don't use any "->". Whenever a track is split, like say Dark Star, then second piece will say "Dark Star (reprise)". You can always upload your own, too!
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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 07:34

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I'm glad your uploading them,,, takes a while to type all that shit in,,, I know because I've type a shitload of stuff in. I'm also a nut for consistency in my labeling. I vary on "and" and "&", depends on how it looks when done. I use Samson & Delilah, but Cold Rain and Snow. "and", "for" and "the" are usually lower case (unless first word) All "album" names in folders and id tags are "YYYY-MM-DD - Venue - City, ST" I use "->" in id tag titles and just "-" in file names (wish they make ">" an acceptable character. Whenever a " " " is needed I use " ' ",,, it allows ' in file name, but not ". I almost never use "reprise". The thing about labeling is it all done the same way, people don't like my way they can change it, I done the hard work and gathered it all up. I've gotten several large collections over the years handed to me to "merge" into my collection. A very labor intense effort, you just can't "copy", you'd end up with dupes. So you really need to sort thru every file before adding to what you got. I check both copies and see who has the best and most complete. But what amazes me is most people have NO order, they have folders of copies within folders of copies. Someone handed me their collection once, said they had 200,000 songs. I started sorting thru them found two instances where they had copied their stuff to a folder inside of their stuff. Like that was a backup! The amount of times I find people just rip their stuff to audio track 1, audio track 2, audio track 3,,,etc for every album they have! I even go thru the trouble of looking up tracks. If I get a live album with track 1, track 2, track 3,,,etc. I will listen to the songs and type chunks into google to try and figure out what song it is so I can label it properly. Oh well, everyone has an obsession. But I say god bless the labelers for they shall inherit order!
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