30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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June 3, 2015 - 5:27pm

#7401

MikeT

Joined:
June 6, 2007

Now I'm stressing.... :)

So yesterday I was stuck in the computer glitch, and wasn't sure I had an actual order. I called Dead.Net (after a few calls where they couldn't tell me anything), and I was told my original order was "canceled" and I should go ahead and place a new order. I placed a new order and it went through like clockwork. Then last night, after I went to sleep, I received an email from an Edward Watson, that most orders did not go through and I should go ahead and place an order (since their issues were fixed). I saw that email this morning, but since I already placed a good order I didn't think much of it. Just an hour ago, in some online forums people are saying that orders they placed orders while the systems were "stuck" actually went through. I get curious, since I really don't want two $700.00 boxes, and I call Dead.net. I talk to a very nice woman, who seems to confirm that I actually do have two good orders and if I didn't call, I would end up getting two boxes. She gives me the order number for the order I never got a confirmation on (the one that was stuck in process for hours before I "gave up"). It seems to be a good order, so I tell her to go ahead and cancel that order, and make sure I only get one box. She puts me on hold and goes and talks to her supervisor, and then she cancels the order I successfully placed online, for which I got a confirmation email; leaving the one order I never got a confirmation email on (since it was never confirmed and was placed while they were having system issues). I tell her why did you cancel my "good" order, and leave the one order I have no confidence is a good order? She tells me that her supervisor said it didn't matter which order she canceled. So now with boxes selling quickly according to what I was told by the woman on the phone, I supposedly have a good order, but no confirmation that said order is a good order. Why did she cancel the one order I knew was a good order? So I am stressing that somehow they may have a list of all these orders that were supposedly in cancel mode yesterday, that somehow are now "good", like the order she left intact for me, and these orders may get canceled as well (since it was the order I tried to place when the systems went FUBAR). I am actually stressed that in the end I get no box, a box I really want. I was told I would get a confirmation email regarding the order she left in place, but it wasn't a priority right now to get them out. UGH... So I really hope I get a box, or I will be very upset at this entire process. Fingers crossed.
June 3, 2015 - 5:24pm

#7402

reijo29

Joined:
June 18, 2012

5150

I agree on all your points. And yes to help generate over 5 mil in sales they could have produced a better video. I'm sure the follow up videos will be informative, fun & above all clear. Perhaps Mr. Norman can work his magic & remaster the current DL promo clip?
June 3, 2015 - 5:20pm

#7403

SAMTHARDMAN

Joined:
September 9, 2012

Minas

I took the plunge this morning? Yourself? If so, I think we will both need extensive tutoring on how to appreciate the many many discs of the Brent era shows; not to mention the last few. If not for subscription, or this comprehensive box, I would be hard pressed to purchase a show from 78-95 a la carte. There are too many dics in this baby for there not to be lots of great music etched inside. I will be ready to dive in. At some point, I will have to come up for air. God willing, with a smile on my face. Sam T
June 3, 2015 - 4:34pm

#7404

WharfratWhitey

Joined:
May 19, 2013

Every Silver Linings Got A Touch Of Grey

"but the music is special to me and takes me places." Ditto WH5150. Let's drink to that!
June 3, 2015 - 4:29pm

#7405

WH5150

Joined:
June 8, 2013

It is a bummer but.......

The cost is a bummer...... a bummer that while 7 CDs more than Europe '72 it is way more pricey....... a true bummer....... had to really think about it instead of it being an immediate purchase. Though in the end, bit the bullet. took some happy hour drinks to make me do it though. I am bummed it was so pricey and there is a bit of gouging going on. but the music is special to me and takes me places. Do I think that was taken advantage of? yes I do. Do I think I will get my money worth out if it? I guess....... but a bummer they took advantage of our love of the music. Peace Roger PS re-tape the video. Its terrible. Unwatchable. WITF! would any company worth its weight in SPAM post that crappy video. Nope. Its not complicated, if it is too windy tape it indoors. Does this really need spelled out? Apparently
June 3, 2015 - 4:05pm

#7406

mayormarionbarry

Joined:
April 4, 2008

1300 left

The number of available boxes are going up! Maybe they found more?
June 3, 2015 - 4:04pm

#7407

Dennis

Joined:
November 1, 2012

sound reproduction

I've watched a lot of talk about mp3/flac/cd/hd cd/vinyl. What I see as a few points. I have a top notch stereo (Conrad Johnson tube preamp, threshold statis amp with Magneplanner MG3 speakers), it does sound great. When I bought it the salesman had several words of advice, first you audio collection had to be worth 4 times your system or you pissed money away. Two if all you listened to was FM radio, don't buy this system. Third you will ONLY hear this quality if you sit quiet in the right spot. If your doing the dishes, cleaning the house working in the yard you will NEVER hear what the system is reproducing. I don't sit in front of my stereo much anymore, in fact its been stored for quite awhile since the speakers need a fair amount of room to work right. Most of my listening is in the car, on my computer speakers or some wireless shit I have in the garage and backyard. They all sound fine and you will NEVER hear the difference in source material in this listening environment. I have some nice computer speakers (Bose Companion 5), they attach via a usb port and sound incredible for 400 bucks. The junk in garage and backyard sound great while working on cars or floating in pool or weeding backyard. The car system is the "best" stock Toyota Avalon system, sounds good enough. I also have cheap computer speakers scatter around the house and have a cheap laptop I use as a jukebox to stream the music off my hard drive of my desktop. So on Saturday night when me and the wife are getting ready to go to dinner, I hook laptop to bathroom computer speakers and let fly. Echo in bathroom, think you'll hear the difference in flac/mp3? I don't. Certainly you can hear difference in mp3 levels, most of my music is 320 levels, audiobooks are 128. I have found with audiobooks if people rip at a 64 rate there is a ringing sound. Music I will not even take for free if its under 128. 128 sounds fine on cheap wireless speakers in pool while hanging with friends. Size considerations,,, mp3 320 is a lot smaller that wav or flac. May not matter to some, (some commented about eating up GB's), well I have 500,000 songs, by over 6,000 artist and almost fill a 5 TERRA BYTE drive. So even if flac sounded better while cutting the grass :-) I can't fit a half a million songs on a reasonable amount of space. And don't forget, you need TWICE the space so you can backup collection. I have a 5TB drive for backups that I only attach to machine while backing up, then it's unplugged to protect it. Plus I have copies stored outside the house. It has taken 15 years to get to this point so I am WELL backed up. Also too I'm gonna be 60 in January and even though I swear I got great hearing (still the only person who can hear a toilet running in the house!!:-) I still gotta believe I have some high end loss. So you really need to ask yourself how and where do I listen to music. And really what do I listen to. I don't think Andy Williams needs a 30,000 dollar system to listen to on, nice though his voice is! The Dead definitely can utilize a great sound system, full range and large sound stage. MP3's are very convenient, I know Neil Young is going around complaining about them, but you also know that man gotta be half deaf from standing in front of crazy horse and sonic youth :-) So I'll stick with my 320 level mp3 and be able to carry 50,000 songs on vacation in a player the size of bic lighter or hell, your cell phone. PS - there are differences in mp3 players, the iPhone doesn't sound as good as the Samsung, for a player I use a Cowan Iaudio, have the same one for years now. My buddy uses his Samsung galaxy phone and blue tooths it into his car, sounded fine that last time I was out with him.
June 3, 2015 - 4:04pm

#7408

Syracuse78

Joined:
July 15, 2010

Wow, I just tried watching

Wow, I just tried watching David's video. I usually enjoy those and find his enthusiasm infectious. The first thing he says is how he can't control the wind and some folks don't like it in the videos. Well, I watched two minutes and it was so annoying, I decided it wasn't worth it. I am sure he had interesting comments to make, but it was like listening to a phone conversation that keeps cutting out. I am sure that he is right in that the area he likes to shoot these is inherently windy and he can't stop the wind. But perhaps it might make sense to shoot it somewhere slightly less scenic but a lot quieter. Oh well. I've just been skimming some of these posts. Seems like the usual reaction to a big box. I haven't noticed any comments about the video. Have people watched it? Does the wind/sound issue get less annoying? Hey, this is coming off negatively and other than being disappointed about the video, I think this is a cool release. For all those folks who wanted better representation in the latter years, here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is. For all those who wanted some really early stuff, you should be happy too. For all those who like the late '60s - '77 era, there's more of that! For all those who think music should be free, man, well you're out of luck. lol
June 3, 2015 - 3:50pm

#7409

cheyler196

Joined:
June 20, 2007

filthy

I agree with your first sentence. Wholeheartedly. Didn't what I wrote seem to communicate even the TINIEST bit of sarcasm? Or was it the word 'fucking' that offended you? Not that I really care, just wondering. Your political affiliations are showing... I'd apologize but my apologies would not, in fact, be genuine. Cool boxed set, and completely apolitical too! Almost anyway. Still want to get 2-9-73 Maples and hear JG stepping all over Wavy Gravy's 'not political' announcement at the start of the second set.
June 3, 2015 - 3:44pm

#7410

kevinbrandon

Joined:
February 3, 2011

Hey Cosmicneil-THE OFFER I CANT REFUSE

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John Perry Barlow

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Hi william.jasinki

Same here. No ID tagging. Right now I'm listening to 1966 on my Bluray, moving forward through the years, and importing 1995 into iTunes (Mac) moving backward through the years. I'm not getting any Disc information on my Bluray or my iTunes. These are the only 2 years I've checked so far, but it's probably the same on all the other CDs.

Still Waiting...

Hearing about the defects really makes me hope mine turns up and is "Just exactly perfect". I really thought, based on the pics, that the box was going to be flimsy. If I had bought an extra 30 Trips in order to sell the shows individually, I'd definitely send my spare, empty box to someone with these terrible issues. The misunderstood lyrics stories compel me to mention that recently when I listen to "Bertha", I always think "Birthers don't you come around here.. anymore.." :-)

Too bad....

....the cases weren't ala May '77 style. Those are perfect, and thin, and chrome.... (sorry, threw a Fury Road reference out there)....

Seriously....

....the May '77 box presentation kicks major ass....

30 Trips = MIA

I received a shipping email from dead.net last hour. Of course, I clicked the link for the tracking number, and it stated the package was delivered at 2:22 PM this afternoon. Huh...that's a surprise, as I didn't see anything when I arrived home at 5:00 PM. Of course, I check the front door, back door, side door, garage door and every possible place around the outside of my house, but no package in sight. I called UPS to find out some details about the delivery, but all they could do was confirm delivery. They asked me a bunch of questions, and opened an investivation. I then called dead.net, and they asked an additional bunch of questions. Apparently they can't/won't do anything until the investigation is over, which may take 7-10 days, but the entire "investigation process" seems rather informal. Apparently dead.net put me on the "manager's list," which apparently is a list of customers that have not received items that were ordered. Anyway, I really don't trust that this situation will work out, with these "investigations" and "manager's lists" going on. I feel extremely hopeless and 'in the dark.' Why the fuck aren't signatures required for delivery of this box? Y'all enjoy the music. At least I have access to the stream... but I'm out $750.

cd storage

I keep my discs in something like this: http://amzn.com/B006G4BW2E and I store the packaging (sleeves, boxes, etc.) sans discs.

Email notice of box set shipping

I received my email about my box set being shipped about 6 hours after I received the box set! So, I guess the lesson is don't fret about not getting the email! In examining the entire set I found my box to be in great shape and every disc present. Of course it will be a long time before I know that they all play well, but I'm confident if I find a flawed one that the Dead organization will replace it asap. BTW: I live in Michigan and my box shipped from Virginia.

No no no no noooo...

Wilfred.. I used those cd cases during my late teens and early twenties, until I started noticing cds that were pretty much brand new were already coming out scratched. Those will also totally jack up your cds eventually. I think it's because dirt and/or sand eventually gets in and scratches them.

lowspark

Where do you take yours? Off-roading? I leave mine stationary in my library. All of them are ripped and stored, used minimally. So, for me its YES, YES, YES! No, really it has been great for me.

Carry on indeed / Nice one Keithfan / dude77

I know, he's about as amusing as a hemorrhoid isn't he? I'm still wondering what rock he crawled out from under. Someone had voiced concern about the 7 inch single getting scratched because of the wood this morning, I forget who. But...there appears to be a well concealed paper sleeve on the inside of it that it slides into. g1u2i3, glad to hear you hooked up with someone in customer support who can help. I guess they must produce extra box sets in case there are damaged ones. I don't see an actual number anywhere on the box (like 59 / 6500). I thought I read they would be numbered, did I dream that? dude77 I was surprised you had a box cutter incident - I wonder if there will be others. I know Dr Rhino is aware of the last box cutter incident....

Let me get this straight....

....the boxes ship from Pennsylvania and Virginia? Ahhhh....the DaVinci code strikes again. Why not ship from California?....

So far...

I am up to the 69 show so far. Everything sounds amazing, the multitrack from 67 is excellent. I received the box last night, with that being said, I received a shipping notification a couple of minutes ago.

@MinasMorgul

The # is on the scroll. Mine was #1001 I think. I was also surprised about the box cutter. Can't believe that is still going on. Even joked about it with customer service. The other damaged case in my box looks to be either a cut or rip that goes straight down the spine for about 2 inches.

Big Box

I've got 10/30/91 Oakland ticket (only $22.50-boy those were the days) and 8/21/93 Eugene backstage pass. Went to all the '94 Eugene shows, and strangely enough don't even remember them playing there in '93 until I saw this. Saw someone has 5-15-93 Vegas, not only went to that but it was my birthday, so I would trade for that. Was also in 4th row in front of Vince on his b-day on 2-21-95 and would trade for that. The only real box set design problem I noticed is the 45 looks cool in the lid, but to take out seems hard to do without scratching it and would like to play it eventually. The sleeve is pretty much stuck in there and ain't coming out. It'll be a while before I can really have the time to listen to all this, 30 shows, jeez.

CD Storage

Wilfred, I also use a case similar to that. I bought one that holds maybe 500, but a binding ring in one of the sections broke due to putting too many CDs in the case - my lesson was you can't really put 500 in the model I bought (but I digress). I bought the case because I was inadvertently tearing up the cardboard CD cases like E72 and most other recent boxes come in, from taking the discs out and putting them back in repeatedly; and also, my CDs don't get all scratched up now, like a Road Trips special (what were those cases made out of? sandpaper?) But what is really awesome, is I am up to 3 cases now, and I decorated them with Grateful Dead stickers. They look almost as cool as the E72 trunk, although I had to use fabric glue on most of them to keep them sticking to the material of the case. Then I took the actual CD cases everything came in, and I have them lined up on my e-center shelves. Needless to say, none of this makes my wife happy, as it's all right smack in the middle of the family room, which I've commandeered as my man cave. She acted surprised when I took the shelves over, but really, what did she expect after I hung 24x18 inch pictures of each member of the Who (and various other rock memorabilia)?

10-27-91

If anyone wants to trade that ticket PM me

Thanks TheDude / The Single

I haven't opened the scroll yet. I know I won't be able to get it rolled back up correctly.... The gold record - my take on it was that the sleeve is supposed to stay inside so that the record does not get scratched when you take it out and put it back. I really like it, I think it looks awesome when you open up the box. BTW - a couple of areas on my box also have the overlay covering coming unglued a bit (Howie came unglued??? No!....) Up on the side of the lid and on one of the name tag covers. I keep pushing back in.....

My box

Seems to be moving right along. Last scanned departing from Hodgkins, IL.

wjonjd to the rescue?

Which is better - or are they the same? 1) Ripping to mp3 directly from source CD 2) Ripping to mp3 from WAV file that was ripped from source CD? I want an mp3 and WAV copy of each of my 30 Trips shows. Option #2 above is much faster - but am I losing audio quality? I use iTunes to do all of this. I Googled it, and it sounds like they should be the exact same quality, as WAV is an uncompressed lossless rendering of a store-bought CD; but I've seen you debunk a lot of logical suppositions I've had about audio quality in the past, so I thought I would run this one by you when you have a minute. Thanks!

Still nada...

The only thing I've gotten,like I mentioned earlier,was a ruse e-mail from DHL International saying it was here but there was nuttin'.Once again,crazy fingers crossed....

Hey lowspark....

....my precious is coming from Hodgkins as well. Perhaps they are strangers stopping strangers, just to shake their hands on the same truck. Lol!!!.... ....edit (duh again)....Lord, bless that truck and it's driver. You carry more special cargo in that rig than you realize....drive safe brother.... ....These are The Days Between....hell yeah!!....

Box set ticket stub history , got a good one by chance

Oakland 10/27/91.

Italy delivery ?

Not delivered yet, it should be here by Monday or Tuesday.The courier is DHL. Keeping my fingers crossed and...my wallet ready.Ouch!

O.K....

Got my shipping notice...hopefully tomorrow....definitely Monday.....enjoy folks.......

Everything looks great!

If they'd just surprised us with the tickets/passes I'd not care, but I got the Oregon '93 backstage pass, but no ticket. Everything else looks good though.

You guys saw it coming....

....not only Penn & VA, but UPS & DHL? I need some Motrin.....

0021

Number 21 arrived in Alabama today with a GA ticket for 1991/10/27. The first show is outstanding.

30 Trips Book

For those breaking up their box... I would like to purchase the book. Send a PM. NFA

Whoa!....

....I think I found my twin. ecb, you look familiar....

The last stand

Not sure I expected any less but yes - the remaining individual shows for sale are those 'classic' vince shows.... Shows: 90 - $35US 92 - $35US 93 - $35US 94 - $35US 95 - $35US Or $155 for all 5 90s shows above email me at gilmourstephen@hotmail.com Once they're gone - I'm gone - oh and One Man, Space Brother and boblopehope-ona-rope or whatever your name is - see y'all at the next limited edition ;)

Scroll

Not only did I not stream any of the music, I also didn't watch any of the seaside chats - I know the number appears on the scroll but what's the story with the "Miracle"? I'll be checking mine tomorrow.

DHL

Any other London based deadheads also getting hit with £77 duty charge? I thought it was included on shipping costs?

Marye

Please can you comment, I've just forked out another £88 duty charge, is this correct? Bummer I say if correct for UK heads. I'm moving back to Cali, F this can't afford to keep paying for extra duty. I'm happy the Dave's Pick's don't have a duty charge, although In the past my Road Trips did and i questioned that too and looks like i was paying extra, so that is why i am asking again?

Custom charges and ripping sound quality

To deal with two of the questions raised here:Customs charges are unavoidable on packages on this size and 88 quid seems about right. Nowadays small packets like the dps will slip thru the system as it is not worth the effort of recovering the various dues even though they recently changed the regulations in the uk anyway so that they could do this on such items. However, an item valued at 699 dollars and packaged in a huge box will not be "slipping thru" so we are stuck with the charges. On this international customers should check not only their mobile phones for text messages from Dhl but also their landline answering machines or message services - I got an audio message from Dhl giving details of how to pay the charges online. Don't wait for the email from dead.net to arrive. On ripping your CDs. For general use just rip to 320kps MPs. Unless you have bloody good hearing or a very good sound system you will not notice any drop in sound quality. For backup copies which can be used to burn new CDs for example or play on a high res machine ( assuming you haven't gone for the usb stick which contains actual high res files) rip to flac or wav or even just use the alac option on iTunes which will give you the same lossless quality with smaller files.

DHL and import charges

In Europe what you will pay to import this box is made up of three charges : 1. Import taxes (anywhere from 0% to 16% in my country). Fortunately these CDs are at 0% in my country. 2. Sales Tax (VAT, TVA, MwSt, BTW, MOMS etc etc) - 21% in my country. 3. DHL handling charges for dealing with 1 and 2 - € 14 in my country. It also depends on the value of the box - less than $ 25 or so and there's no charges. More than $ 25 and you get hit with 1 2 and 3. Doesn't matter whether it's a gift or not.

945 arrived!

Raining in Pittsburgh today. I was snoozing on the couch with my cat Jack snoozing on my chest. He suddenly jumped off me in fright which woke me up. I heard the sound of a truck driving away and saw it was the UPS guy. Peeked out the window and the box was sitting outside the door. Gotta thank Jack for not allowing box to get wet! I know I'm in the minority here but I've decided to listen chronologically to one show a week. Oughta keep me smiling thru another depressing Pittsburgh winter. Enjoy everybody!

@KeithFan, Steve Jones - ripping to Itunes

I don't think KeithFan was asking what quality settings to use in his mp3's, but rather, whether there is a quality difference when ripping to mp3 straight from CD, or converting wav to mp3, using iTunes. I use ITunes also, so after seeing Keithfan's comment, I did some testing with AudioInspector, and got results I was not expecting. I used the Music Never Stopped track from the '95 show in the 30 Trips box. First, just so you know what I used for testing, when ripping into ITunes to mp3 I use 256 vbr with all other settings set to highest quality - I've tested, and I cannot hear the difference between this and 320 cbr at all, and these are about 15% smaller files. Your mileage might vary. For this test I ripped directly from CD to ITunes mp3, and then used dbpoweramp to rip to wav file, then imported the file to iTunes and converted to mp3. The resulting mp3 are very similar (almost identical) in every respect except one - the total frequency range. For some reason the frequency range from low to high is 13,479hz ripping right from CD into ITunes mp3, but 15,202hz importing the wav file then having iTunes convert to mp3. The actual range analyzing the wav file ripped from CD is 16,322. It appears that having iTunes convert wav to mp3 is superior to having iTunes rip straight from CD to mp3. One other interesting thing I found. I found clipped samples in the iTunes mp3's regardless of direct from CD or from WAV, even though there are no clipped samples on the CD or in the extracted WAV file. One of the options under mp3 in iTunes that I use is the "Filter frequencies below 10Hz" option. These frequencies are completely inaudible, and the description of this option is: "Select to filter inaudible frequencies, which results in smaller, more efficient files without perceptible loss of quality." Well, it turns out that when I turn this option off, and use iTunes to rip from CD to mp3 or import the wav and convert to mp3, no more clipped samples! And, the mp3 files sizes were virtually identical with or without the 10hz option set. I will no longer be using this option. To answer your question, since you're already ripping to wav anyway, having iTunes create mp3 from the wav files is actually superior (and faster) than having iTunes rip directly from CD to mp3. I tried to determine why it was truncating frequencies (it wasn't the 10hz option which had no effect on this), but there is no option that accounts for this. It just does it. As Steve mentioned, you may as well store your lossless backup files in a lossless compressed format, like flac, shn, or apple's lossless (alac). I'm assuming you are not using the lossless files as your iTunes database or you wouldn't be doing both mp3 and lossless, so any of the above lossless formats would work fine, and make your files almost half as large. Apple products won't play any lossless compressed formats directly except alac, but several other players will play flac directly without your having to uncompress them first. Hope that helps!

DaveStrang, Richard

I sent you a PM. :-)Nice to see so many people happy to have received the magic box! Alice, like you, I'll listen chronologically to one show a week.

ID tags

It's weird, because the CD player in my car showed song information. So it's on the discs somewhere.

Passes

Haven't received boxzilla yet but would love to trade for 6/21/93 pass - my first and only show. Will update when mine arrives.

Customs charges

Steve, did you go ahead and pay the charge online? And do we have to do this before they will deliver? DHL couldn't tell me anything when I called them....

Like Xmas in October

So glad to hear about the excitement everyone has over receiving 30T. Nothing here in ATL as yet. I'll check status today. Funny, the UPS van sped past my house just as I got home from work yesterday and you should have seen the frown on my face. Thanks to Jon for the mp3 experiment outcomes. That is a lesson. And I agree, just rip them to lossless first. Storage is cheap, and you'll want those lossless files as backup to the CDs. Then you can convert if you need smaller files for portability. Although - I use my iPhone (5S) to hold ALAC files and they work great. Plugged into the car stereo with a USB cable, it's like Carnegie Hall in the cab of my Tacoma. The lying, supremely annoying bandit is asleep now, down under, dreaming his bogan dreams. But he'll be back, as promised. Get your Vince era shows at his "final" price while you still can!

@william

I deleted my response because it was incorrect. There was an update to Redbook standard that includes CD-Text to store album name, track names, and some other info. These are not ID tags. The CD-Text is not what computer software like iTunes, winamp, etc, uses - these pull info from internet databases, although some can also read CD-Text. But, stereos, cars CD players, etc., read the CD-Text information from the CD.

Why does it come from VA?

Musictoday is an entertainment marketing company located in Crozet, near Charlottesville, Virginia. It was founded and run by Coran Capshaw, the manager of Dave Matthews Band. It is now owned by Live Nation. It also distributes Zappa.com, Hendrix.com, Govt Mule and many other bands web sites that offer stores. Rhino uses them for distribution for GD.net too, but don't mention it. I also suspect they are the people that "manage" this site for Rhino as all customer service phone calls are handled in VA.

The Music

Once the Box is received, the decisions begin as to what to listen to. My order thus far: 2 22 69, 4 15 70 (incredible Other One jam), 10 3 76 (1st disc), 9 28 75, 9 18 74 ... The Dijon 1st set is amazing right out of the gate, UJB Jack Straw Friend of the Devil BTW and Scarlet Begonias, epic

ID Tags & CD Text

wjonjd & william.jasinski - thanks for sharing! So, wjojnd, shouldn't my bluray read the CD Text info like a car CD player? Because it isn't. And this is the only thing I've bought from dead.net that didn't have the ID tags when I imported them into iTunes. Very odd. Lots and lots of typing and double verifying correct input ahead . . .

DHL and import charges

DHL said that would send me an SMS with details how to pay. Until you pay they won't deliver. I guess the SMS will give you a payment reference for their website for payment by Credit Card.

#4692 arrived

Ticket was 5/27/93, pretty cool to get a released show ticket, and the backstage pass was 3/22/95, which, since I'm a NC guy is awesome. The book is engrossing, only read the show notes in the .pdf, so the essay is fantastic, especially holding that awesome book. I've ripped the shows from '66-73, and will start burning them after work. I listened to '66 through my studio monitors last night, and it sounded great! Still planning to listen in order. Right now, since I'm at work for another 7 hours, I'll just start my stream back up. Almost done with 1985. :)

g1u2i3

When you imported to iTunes it didn't pull any tags because no one has uploaded them to Gracenotes yet. I will get might up there. I don't know about the bluray player reading CD-Text. I know that not all players read CD-Text. Final Edit: I've got 66-95 all uploaded to gracenotes. **Also, if you get the ones I uploaded, it will be in my slightly odd format. The albums names I use are just "67/11/10 Los Angeles, CA Shrine Auditorium" as one example. I change most "and" to "&", and I don't use any "->". Whenever a track is split, like say Dark Star, then second piece will say "Dark Star (reprise)". You can always upload your own, too!

wjonjd

I'm glad your uploading them,,, takes a while to type all that shit in,,, I know because I've type a shitload of stuff in. I'm also a nut for consistency in my labeling. I vary on "and" and "&", depends on how it looks when done. I use Samson & Delilah, but Cold Rain and Snow. "and", "for" and "the" are usually lower case (unless first word) All "album" names in folders and id tags are "YYYY-MM-DD - Venue - City, ST" I use "->" in id tag titles and just "-" in file names (wish they make ">" an acceptable character. Whenever a " " " is needed I use " ' ",,, it allows ' in file name, but not ". I almost never use "reprise". The thing about labeling is it all done the same way, people don't like my way they can change it, I done the hard work and gathered it all up. I've gotten several large collections over the years handed to me to "merge" into my collection. A very labor intense effort, you just can't "copy", you'd end up with dupes. So you really need to sort thru every file before adding to what you got. I check both copies and see who has the best and most complete. But what amazes me is most people have NO order, they have folders of copies within folders of copies. Someone handed me their collection once, said they had 200,000 songs. I started sorting thru them found two instances where they had copied their stuff to a folder inside of their stuff. Like that was a backup! The amount of times I find people just rip their stuff to audio track 1, audio track 2, audio track 3,,,etc for every album they have! I even go thru the trouble of looking up tracks. If I get a live album with track 1, track 2, track 3,,,etc. I will listen to the songs and type chunks into google to try and figure out what song it is so I can label it properly. Oh well, everyone has an obsession. But I say god bless the labelers for they shall inherit order!

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