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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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November 24, 2015 - 12:16pm

#991

Gary Farseer

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slow ride

what about the guy on the bull television commercial. for slow release carbohydrate drink...maybe glucerna. i thought was funny
November 24, 2015 - 12:03pm

#992

mitchmo

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February 16, 2011

Stuck on the bus

Called customer service and tried to cancel my USB this afternoon. I was told that there is now a "special protocol" involved. They are forwarding my cancellation request somewhere and I was told I should receive a response "early next week." Too many cancelations or is it finally shipping?
November 24, 2015 - 11:37am

#993

Bach 2 Bach

Joined:
June 5, 2007

Slow Ride...

I can hear it anytime I want- all I have to do is turn to one of the local 'classic rock' stations around here. They have it on an endless loop- along with Joe Walsh's 'Life's Been Good'.
November 24, 2015 - 11:36am

#994

outpost

Joined:
June 11, 2007

USB thoughts .....

So if USB Sticks are the wave of the future (not gonna argue with that), then Dead.net/Rhino better get their act together. My rants are not specifically at the delay (these things happen), but at the fact they have NOT BEEN UPFRONT about the problem, and treated their customers with disrespect (despite the emails thanking us for our patience .... how patronising!) Unless the stick is way more intricate than would appear from pictures, then it is still a USB Stick in a fancy case, and people are going to think twice if they release another. Anyhow, let's see what they have to say this week (hopefully it will be 'back on track')
November 24, 2015 - 10:26am

#995

MidwayKid

Joined:
October 28, 2011

Dave's Picks Volume 2 Disc 1 Itunes ? and some USB chatter.

I was just organizing my Daves Picks File. Disc 1 of volume 2 is split into two entries. Can anyone PM message me and tell me how to combine them if possible on The ITunes. I am a old time Dead Head and a new time ITuner. I am going to agree with something someone above my post said about the USB. If I had a lot of extra money. I would right now today buy me 10 of these imaginary lightning bolts. I recommend anyone in the risk reward business to take some risk here. These USB drives are either gonna be a smash hit. Or a total flop. This is the perfect environment for a product to turn out fantastic. Everyone who is waiting might very well be the big winners here. The Pono Player and the new way music files are being played is Brand new. This is all first edition stuff here. Very early in the game. By the time everyone is using Pono Players and such. Looking for lightning bolts, these will have been sold out 5 years ago. In five years people might be going crazy to get a hold of these imaginary lighting bolts. So folks I know it is tough but if I were you I would just kick back and wait until the magic arrives. You are in the drivers seat of the future. In the risk reward business what is most important is that what I put my risk into turns out to be as great as is can be. Seeing as through this is a Grateful Dead project it is likely that someone will get it right at some point. If I had a extra 700 bucks I would buy one of these. I have two boxes one to play and one to collect. I am thinking that one day I will wish I had got one box and one bolt. That day is not today. I think it will happen though. It is not impossible that I will buy one at some point. I am watching the bolts very carefully. I know it is tough folks. As a professional who deals in antiques collectibles and cool stuff for a living I think you are all sitting in some very lucky seats. I envy the tough spot you are in. For those who saw the Dead back in the day and remember all the waiting anticipation hassle and risk it could take to drive five states away from home to sleep in a car in parking lot to see the Dead. Often by the first song you knew it was all worth it. Then by the end of the show you could not believe what you just had witnessed. I believe that is what will happen down the road with the Lightning Bolts. Just kick back and relax. If you get the Bolt someday as advertised and they are correct at that point I think you will all be thrilled. One of 1000 or so fortunate collectors. If it is this much of a hassle to get it has got to be great. Right? Look at it this way I will predict that Tesla will have a Pono player or its equivalent in its cars in 3 to 5 years. They might have that option now I do not know. Imagine someone who could buy a Tesla in a few years and just get in and put the lighting bolt in and bam what a driving experience that could be. Who would want a CD box set in the back seat of your car when you can have it all on a drive with great files. The upgraded files and the Pono player direction is the future. Plain and simple. you all are some lucky ducks. The more I talk about it the more I want in on the action. I will wait until we get more info. Looks like I have that luxury. When these exist and if the reviews come in great. The remaining stock will sell out quick. I will be watching. Got to get me a Bolt.
November 24, 2015 - 10:14am

#996

Dennis

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For your consideration...

Someone sent me this, thought it would spur endless debate here. Comments at the end of the article are like any online, half love, half hate. I thought interesting at least. http://disinfo.com/2015/09/a432-hz-frequency-dna-tuning-bastardization-…
November 24, 2015 - 10:05am

#997

antonjo

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1st sets, slow ride

vguy,Jerry was definitely a beacon of light that evening. Just completed the '77 first set this morning ~ wow! That is one fine -- nearly perfect -- first half. The groove on Brown-Eyed Women reels the whole band in and doesn't let go from start to finish. That leaves me teary-eyed from the beauty, and then comes Music Never Stopped...wow. Really enjoyed the '85 first set, too ~ moreso, surprisingly, than the 2nd. My old tape started at He's Gone, I think (maybe Samson), so I'd never heard 1st set. Let It Grow rawks. Slow Ride -- anyone heard that song in recent years? If not, count yourself fortunate. Like Chinese water torture, it just goes on and on, relentlessly milking chorus after bridge after instrumental break after alternate bridge after variation on chorus, till you just want to shout "ALRIGHT, ALREADY!!!" Sorry for that outburst.
November 24, 2015 - 9:34am

#998

dallanW

Joined:
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USB- Dr R email response

Oh man, I keep checking for a shipping notice since its "coming soon" and now they are giving us an update with a new shipping date Next Week! You're kidding! 50th anniversary does mean this year guys......I know it will come when it comes and of course still want it but i am somewhat speechless at this point.
November 24, 2015 - 3:00am

#999

One Man

Joined:
May 17, 2011

Slow Ride

It's gonna take me a long time to get through all 30 Trips. I listen to each song and jot down notes in real time, sometimes having to pause to catch up on writing. Plus I don't have that much spare time to begin with. So I'm only about to start 1967. But I LOVE 1966 because it really conjures an image of a band just starting out, trying to keep the crowd entertained and dancing. They throw a few original tunes in there to begin making their mark, and they choose some obscure covers and make them their own. It's a blueprint that endured for 30 years, although the original tunes of course became much more prominent. The between-song chatter is funny. Surprisingly, they don't sound all that high. I'm sure that will change with the next installment. There are a few tape crinkles here and there, but the audio quality is surprisingly good, although I'm not a fan of Bear's recipe for L-R panning.
November 23, 2015 - 11:59pm

#1000

prafter

Joined:
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USB thoughts

-There's only 1000 of these when they are eventually made*USB Sticks are the wave of the future *a 2-3 month delay for a lifetime of outstanding Dead Shows....the Holy Grail of Dead Boxsets unto eternity and ya'll stamping your feet and taking yo' ball and going home? I'm as frustrated as everyone else, I've learned to be patient...the reward will manifest itself and I'll have portable 30Trips until I croak.

John Perry Barlow

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Re: Re: box pix @ chastason

Actually, these pictures - ESPECIALLY the side views - are great, because now I can notice how cheaply the box was made. Look closely and you'll see a thin layer of wood veneer over a heavyweight cardboard. Your pictures really bring out the colors much more better in the artwork. I am positively impressed with your photography. Rating: A, not an A+ or an A-

'67

Wow on '67. I had cassettes of 11/10 and 11/11 from the early '70s, but having this so clean and remastered just amazes me. On to '68.....

Box Artwork wallpaper? What do you say?!?

I, for one, wouldn't mind if they were to post some wallpaper-sized, high-res versions of the gorgeous artwork adorning the Box Set. Nope, I wouldn't mind that one bit.

@keithfan

I have been trying very hard to stick to my chronological order of listening to these shows. (I did play '80 as a pallet cleanser after '66-'69.. I'm not perfect!) It's taken all I have to not skip to the '77 show, being my favorite year... and knowing that's also my favorite part of my favorite year. So your posts about it aren't helping. But I am glad to hear that I will really be in for a treat. Box photos: They seem to indicate your box got to Forrest Park completely unscathed. I don't even see any of the tiny flaws like mine has.

Child-proof box

It just occurred to me that I need to be focussing on where to put this box before I pick up my 3 year old son for the weekend today. Few delicate things are safe from a toddler, and the paint job on this monster just beckons to a kid.. looking like a toy box and all.

1967

A massacre ! The second concert of 30 Trips Around The Sun is a real killing. From the first title, Viola Lee Blues, I was on the knees. A force, a cohesion, a jam to break everything. A The Other One, nervous and full of energy. A really enjoyable Alligator. An inventive and unbridled Caution (part of which has also been taken on Anthem of the Sun). And all the rest… This concert of November 10, 1967 is amazing maturity. We frankly have trouble recognizing the 1966 group, the Dead evolved supersonic manner. Garcia is much more present than in 1966. If I had one day explain to someone what is an acid trip, I just tell him to listen Anthem of the Sun and this show.

Nice pics, very clear shots

I just bought an empty 30 Trips box,, now I need 30 GD releases that will fit in there. All the Road Trips, To Terrapin, 4.18.70 and 11.18.72 will fit nicely. Hopefully the 2 stash spots can come in use.. And I already know what 45 I am putting in the empty spot.. My newly acquired Sugar Magnolia/ Mr Charlie is going in there!! Sunshine Daydream !! Cover art on cd cases is ok. My vote would have been to do a Hundred Year Hall cover art theme. Always one of my favorites. Phil in the middle with his glasses Lol Bring on the Fillmore West 1970 Box - April 9 ! April 10 !! April 11 !!! April 12 !!!! And add *4.3.70 - Cincinnati as the bonus disc !!!!!

SimonRob

Great to see the box has arrived. Hope you have as much fun with it as I am. Cheers to a long great weekend for you!

Alain

I may try to spin your E72 show this weekend. Really want to hear it. Overloaded with tons of new dead. Man and a lot of it is virgin territory. How exciting indeed! Glad yours and others from around the world are getting theirs. Amazing!

@lowspark

I sent you a PM

Wow..

I agree, Alain, this Viola Lee Blues from 1967 is tremendous. I thought the version from 1966 was awesome, but this one is even better. Will be listening to these shows a few more times before moving on.

Group Mind

Everyone put forth positive vibes...let's help these folks get their 30 Trips. I mean it is time for everybody to be Dancin a ring around the Sun!

Dr Rhino Contact

Can someone give me the email or phone for Dr. Rhino? Disc one from the 94 show showed up with a nice crack in it, and Disc one from the 66 show scratched all up, looks like someone played some hockey with it. Contacted customer service but have not heard back from them yet, was suppose to get an email. Check those discs people, unfortunately not all the sets are Just Exactly Perfect

The Dr...

drrhino@rhino.com

@skeebe - 1972 Trip audio issue

Yes, mine has that same high-pitched whine around 4:00 into "Jack Straw" on the 9-24-72 show.

Feeling Fortunate

Another hour or so.. and I start my weekend which includes digging into this box. I hear you G. Farseer.. I would be jonsin' to get my grubby paws on the box too, if mine were stuck in postal limbo. May all (or lots) of the people that haven't gotten their boxes get them today. Perhaps they need to bring in Santa to deliver all remaining by dawn tomorrow.

Gary

Gary, Thank you for your post. My first concert was that of May 4, 1972. It was my first contact with the Dead. I wish you good listening! You tell me what you think.

Running Order of the USB

Just been listening to a friend's copy of 30 Trips, and noticed that songs have been moved around (presumably to fit on discs), and it made me wonder if the USB will have the sets in their correct order ?The question may've been asked already, but a can't be arsed to look through all the posts.

1972 audio issue

Thanks Tom H for the confirmation. I also just had a thought and checked the audio stream on the site here and it is present there too. At least it isn't just me. It only lasts about a minute so no big deal. I was getting ready to add it to my Dr. Rhino shit be messed up list.

the boxset

Just curious I just re-boxed the set after putting the discs in jewel cases, keeping the cases safe, and not worrying about which disc I pull. anybody else did this? also everybody else is talking about the show holders; mine looks black not the traditional stealie blue

1994 was the last great Help on the Way.Slipknot!.Franklins

But there were so many, which are your favorites For a complete list see http://gratefulseconds.blogspot.com/2015/10/complete-help-on-way-histor… I prefer the earliest ones Era 1, 1975-1977, The Crown Jewels 1. 6/17/1975 Winterland Help On The Way (no lyrics) > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower; Only Instrumental Help; Closes Set 1 2. 8/13/1975 Great American Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower (Gold Standard); Early Bootleg Make Believe Ballroom; opens Show 3. 9/28/1975 Golden Gate Park Help On The Way > Slipknot!; Dirst Incomplete (One Set Show); Franklin's played later 4. 6/3/1976 Portland Help On The Way [5:01] > Slipknot! [13:04] > Franklin's Tower [11:04]; Set 2 5. 6/4/1976 Portland Help On The Way [4:26] > Slipknot! [10:59] > Franklin's Tower [11:38]; Set 1 a. 6/9/1976 Boston Standalone Franklin's Encore (My First Show); only standalone Franklin's encore in Grateful Dead history 6. 6/10/1976 Boston Help On The Way [4:14] > Slipknot! [7:28] > Franklin's Tower [10:24]; Set 2 7. 6/14/1976 Beacon Help On The Way [5:19] > Slipknot! [11:59] > Franklin's Tower [6:17#]; Set 2 8. 6/17/1976 Passiac Help On The Way [4:24] > Slipknot! [8:35] > Franklin's Tower [10:18#]; Set 2 9. 6/19/1976 Passiac Help On The Way [4:34] > Slipknot! [7:18] > Franklin's Tower [9:34] > (1) The Music Never Stopped [5:10] ; Opens Show Early FM Tape 10. 6/21/1976 Philly Help On The Way [4:06] > Slipknot! [9:13] > Franklin's Tower [11:09]; Set 2 11. 6/24/1976 Philly Help On The Way [4:10] > Slipknot! [9:50] > Franklin's Tower [9:42] > Samson And Delilah [5:55] ; Set 2 12. 6/27/1976 Chicago Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower > Sugar Magnolia; Set 2 13. 7/12/1976 Orpheum Help On The Way [4:32] > Slipknot! [7:44] > Franklin's Tower [14:11] ; Set 2 14. 8/4/1976 Jersey City Help On The Way [6:20] > Slipknot! [10:21] > Franklin's Tower [11:57] > Dancing In The Street [14#:01] > The Wheel [5:57] > Samson And Delilah [6:50] ; Set 2 15. 9/23/1976 Duke Help On The Way [#5:21] > Slipknot! [9:28] > Franklin's Tower [11:38] > Looks Like Rain [7:05] ; Set 2 16. 9/24/1976 William & Mary Help On The Way [4:14] > Slipknot! [5:51] > Drums [5:36] > Slipknot! [5:24] > Franklin's Tower [8:05] > The Music Never Stopped [5:49] > Stella Blue [7:29] ; Set 2 17. 9/27/1976 Rochester Help On The Way [4:54] > Slipknot! [7:33] > Drums [5:50] > The Other One [9:55] > Wharf Rat [10:39] > Slipknot! [2:21] > Franklin's Tower [17:32] > Around And Around [7:01]; Set 2, First Split; LONGEST EARLY FRANKLINS 18. 10/1/1976 Indianapolis Help On The Way [4:07] > Slipknot! [12:52] > Franklin's Tower [10:18]; Set 2 19. 10/9/1976 Oakland Help On The Way [5:14] > Slipknot! [5:32] > Drums [3:51] > Samson And Delilah [6:50] > Slipknot! [6:36] > Franklin's Tower [12:#25] > One More Saturday Night [4:31]; Set 2 20. 12/31/1976 Cow Palace Help On The Way [4:20] > Slipknot! [12:02] > Drums [0:50] > Not Fade Away [10:38] > Morning Dew [14:38]; Set 2 second Incomplete 21. 2/26/1977 San Bernardino Help On The Way [4:55] > Slipknot! [8:05] > Franklin's Tower [13:20] ; Set 2 22. 4/23/1977 Springfield Help On The Way [4:25] > Slipknot! [8:53] > Franklin's Tower [10:24] > Around And Around [6:49] > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad [8:49] > Not Fade Away [11:14]; Set 2 23. 4/29/1977 Palladium Help On The Way [4:43] > Slipknot! [8:39] > Franklin's Tower [15:50]; Opens Show 24. 5/9/1977 Buffalo Help On The Way [4:41] > Slipknot! [7:37] > Franklin's Tower [12:57]; opens Show 25. 5/22/1977 Pembroke Pines Help On The Way [4:58] > Slipknot! [6:44] > Franklin's Tower [15:12]; set 2, Dick's Picks 3 verison 26. 6/9/1977 Winterland Help On The Way [4:21] > Slipknot! [9:42] > Franklin's Tower [17:10]; set 2; 27. 10/11/1977 Norman Help On The Way [5:03] > Slipknot! [4:52] > Franklin's Tower [15:02]; opens show, goes on unexpected 6 year hiatus

I'm betting...

I'd bet we see another 30 trips sooner rather than later. Does the vault contain another show from all 30 years? I'd guess we've got stuff they could at least audience patch like they did with this one to get us another 30 shows. Hell, they made a few million off shows that wouldn't have been otherwise releasable in other formats. I don't see them waiting another 10 years or more for another box like this. Instead they can be clearing some stuff from the vaults while hanging onto the better stuff they have other plans for and bring in millions. That being said, what is disc rot? I haven't checked my whole box yet, doing that this weekend. I have bought thousands of CDs and stored thousands of burned CDs over the years and have never came across one that was bad or went bad over the years. What is this disc rot all about and what causes it?

some shows are worth revisiting...already

I have already found myself coming back to 2 shows ...many times: 1972.09.24 Palace Theater - Waterbury, CT 1979.10.27 Cape Cod Coliseum - South Yarmouth, MA For me it is not so much the set list or current members - they just sound great at these particular shows. I haven't really touched the 80's or 90's yet either so this list may grow.

Disc rot...

Best to just Google it, OE 800. You'll find lots of pictures. Some of my old CDs from back in the late 80s show some signs of disc rot. My old Europe 72 double disc has it in a few places and won't play. I have an old Bob Dylan bootleg, and if I look at it in the right light, It's hard to explain, but It looks like something was spilled inside the CD. Not sure if that's the beginning signs of disc rot too, but it won't play either. edit: I've noticed some of that "something spilled inside" effect in some newer CDs (at least 1 in 30 Trips), and they played..although they sometimes get a suspicious activity mark from EAC. It's really bad on the Dylan boot I have and that CD use to play just fine.

Disc Rot Cont…

Sounds like there may be a fungus among us that develops over time. I checked some of my 80’s disc’s and luckily no rot. Is it contagious?

Conspiracy!

Has anyone in GA or FL received their box? Why do the gods hate us? I thought for sure Mr. UPS would darken my doorway and thump my front porch with some precious cargo today but all I hear are crickets out there. What is a red-blooded southerner to do? At least I have some fresh (to me) Miles Davis to keep me company. But still...

1967

I'm listening that for the other one past morning dew andgood morning little school girlWhat can I say, this is the REAL, REAL, GRATEFUL DEAD!!! To me. Dr.rhino answered today to my mail. They will send a new case.... Whiteout dics They are really a good company,.. Not cable,electric, mobile phones...Lol Peace and rock on

Conspiracy!

I am pretty sure by now.. everyone has gotten their box except one man. No, seriously.. I feel your pain.. I do love a good conspiracy, but often there is a less fun, but rational answer. ..there is something wrong with getting this out all at once. It could be staffing, clearing out half a warehouse within a few days creates its own logistical problems. It also could be simpler. Perhaps there were production problems and the supplier could commit to half the inventory by x date and the rest by y date. But who knows.. what I do know is something doesn't make sense. Could also be the boxcutter bandit struck again and they caught it before mailing and rejected those. But something is weird and I do feel bad about those who don't have their box and me having mine. So without offending people from GA, FL and clearly WY, something is not exactly perfect and getting fixed. Only speculating.. but the reply jrf gave from Cust Serv tells me there is something we just don't know. Either that or there are 10 employees at the warehouse and they have reached their 40 hour limit and no boxes for anyone in GA, FL and WY. Or perhaps Vladimir Putin did in fact cut a couple thousand boxes with a soviet made boxcutter. We will never know for sure. What else could it be?.. but one man and jrf.. I think its worth the wait. _________ One edit: my bro, Luis! Great to see you.

Recent Topics

@ Alain - the 11/10/67 show and 'Anthem' would be a good place for anybody to start as far as understanding the GD and what they were about. @ Keithfan & Lowspark75 - that '77 show is as near perfect as we're ever going to hear as far as live GD. Everyone, including Keith can be distinctly heard in the mix. All around fantastic mastering job with the '77 show.

Contagion

Maybe one of my cd's caught disc rot from a DAT. Probably should have stuck with 8-tracks. Is there a cure though- where's Jonas Salk when we need him.

get well Phil!!

Just got the following email from TXR: 10/24 & 10/25 Phil & Friends Show Cancellation A Message from Phil: Dear Friends, I am sorry to let you know that I will need to cancel the October 24th and 25th Phil & Friends shows with Chris Robinson. I was diagnosed with bladder cancer in early October, and have spent the last few weeks at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale doing tests and eventually surgery to remove the tumors. I am very fortunate to have the pathology reports show that the tumors are all non aggressive, and that there is no indication that they have spread. So thanks to my local doctor Cliff Sewell, and the incredible team at the Mayo Clinic, all is well and I can return to normal activities in two weeks from my surgery. Unfortunately, that means I will have to cancel the PLF shows scheduled for Oct 24/25. We will reschedule these shows as soon as we can, but in the meantime, keep a lookout for a free Grate Room show before I leave for the East Coast shows. I also plan to pop in and jam in the bar before we leave, so I hope to see you there at Terrapin. Love Will See You Through.... -Phil PS Ticket refund info will be posted soon

To Save Our Bottoms

I realized that yes, the bottom of Boxzilla, while a really cool tree ring with an even cooler 'bolt, is also made out of a tough cardboard. To save from wear and tear, I put one of those little felt covered sticky circles on the bottom of the box near each corner. It sits atop stickies, thus saving its bottom. Just thought I'd share in the interests of others' bottoms. Sixtus EDIT: be well Phil

Tix and Passes

As requested, I asked whether the tix and backstage passes here are originals or reproductions. They are originals. Thank you.

Disc rot...

The type of disk rot my 2nd CD of 4/25/77 has looks like when a wet print gets smudged. The back of the CD is fine, but when you look at the silver side there's like a translucent "thumb print" on the inside of the outer edge of the clear plastic CD and won't play the last track. It's a 1/2 inch "wave shape from the outer edge of milky unplayable CD.

dear doctor...

no, not our friend dr. rhino. you see, i think i might have a problem. having grooved on the excellent '66 item from the magic box i've developed a taste for much more. naturally, the extraordinary, crisp and brilliant 2/25/66 ivar theater had to be next, but i'm by no means sated. i can see a week or two at least of inhabiting '66. if this is gonna be true of every year 'til '79, i'm gonna have serious issues. i have way more content to explore in those later years, and with 2000+ at least hours, what's a man to do? will i ever get to savour the brent years, let alone reach vince?

Thanks for the update

Thanks for the update Fishcane - I, and I'm sure everyone on this site send Phil our best wishes as well as a speedy recovery. I WISH AND HOPE FOR ALL THE BEST FOR YOU PHIL!

healing beams...

from me to phil, strive boldly dear friend...

Love to Phil

Send positive energy and love, and a box of rain, to ease the pain

Thank you MaryE!

Thanks for taking the time to clarify this for us!

2013 & 2014 30 Days Of Dead

I know this is unrelated especially in light of the news with Phil, but can anybody tell me if the 30 Days Of Dead for 2013 & 2014 is still available? I have 2010, 2011, and 2012 but missed out on 2013 and 2014 (I had medical issues going on). Any info is appreciated.

Phil - and 94,95

Prayers and thoughts out to Phil and his family! Please get well soon!! Finished 94 and 95. I really enjoyed the 94 show. Great set list, and the opening Help-Slip-Frank hits the spot, followed by Althea, cowboy tunes, Dylan, So Many Roads, etc. However, whereas the '93 show showed that Jerry could still be firing on all cylinders all night (love that show), in this '94 show it seems to me that although he is giving it all he's got, he just can't physically do everything he wants to do. I think it's one reason he pours so much into the ballads where he can reach emotional heights without as much reliance on consistently inspired guitar playing. The rest of the band makes the extra effort to provide some of the intensity that used start with Jerry. Love having this show though, and the sound is wonderful. In the '95 show, the issues with Jerry's level of playing continue what was seen in the '94 show. That said, I still very much enjoyed the show, and frankly, the second set is really really good (we can live with one Samba in the box, can't we?). The Drums-Space sequence is one of my favorites in the box, and the post drums section (just Johanna, Sugar Mag, and the encore) is very well played. In Sugar Magnolia, you can hear that Jerry is still more than capable of coming up with creative licks, and I enjoyed this version a lot. Overall, the '94 and '95 shows were better than expected they would be, and the '93 show was WAY better than I thought it would be (a truly great show.)

@Dave and 30 Days

You can still download both 2013 and 2014 Days from here I believe: http://www.endlessboundaries.com/free-download-30-days-of-dead-2014/

"You kids...

...quit poodling on my lawn!" - Mr. Richards {{{Phil}}}

Get well Phil

Big Love comin' at'cha

The Box has found it's way home.

Beautiful.Red velvet #1811 Ticket 1993-05-27 Cal Expo Pass 1995-02-24 Oakland Coliseum ...& one large serving of humble pie w/ a hint of crow. Thanks Doc. Get well Phil Fingers crossed for Georgia,Florida,Montana and any others pulling their hair out right now.

Tix and passes

Thanks for getting the clarification, marye. And since I'm the one who cast doubt in the first place, lemme just say: awesome! Thanks, TPTB!

Bottoms Up

That's a good idea, Sixtus_

Tix

Makes sense the tix are originals or they would have reprinted shows from the box.

Boxzilla

So, needless concerns aside, I want to let TPTB know: they really got it right with this box. The thing that I'm happiest about is that it gives equal weight to every phase of the band's career. I'm a Deadhead who likes all periods just about equally. I love garage band Dead just as much as primal, the Vince years just as much as the Keith years (or, at least, almost). I've even been known to defend '95 at times (the SLC stand is a prime example of why). I've long since resigned myself to this view not being shared by most, and so it hasn't surprised me that most releases have concentrated on the '70s. I can't even really criticize the exclusively-prime-years turn the Dave's Picks series took last year. That's what most fans want. But that's precisely what makes it nice that 30 Trips gives '66, '82, and '95 just as much love as '69, '72, and '77. You have to go back to So Many Roads to find another Dead release that did that. And So Many Roads completely changed the way I looked at the band. Anyway, count me happy that this box does what it does.

Thanks wjonjd!

I was able to download 30 Days Of Dead for 2014 but the link for 2013 gives you the 2014 songs again. I left a message on the site to that affect. Hopefuly they'll correct it so I can download the 2013 songs as well. Thanks again.

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