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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
  • #185
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
  • #187
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices
    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 11:47

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Actually, these pictures - ESPECIALLY the side views - are great, because now I can notice how cheaply the box was made. Look closely and you'll see a thin layer of wood veneer over a heavyweight cardboard. Your pictures really bring out the colors much more better in the artwork. I am positively impressed with your photography. Rating: A, not an A+ or an A-
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Submitted by Morning Sun on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 12:31

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Wow on '67. I had cassettes of 11/10 and 11/11 from the early '70s, but having this so clean and remastered just amazes me. On to '68.....
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Submitted by Oswald55 on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 12:32

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I, for one, wouldn't mind if they were to post some wallpaper-sized, high-res versions of the gorgeous artwork adorning the Box Set. Nope, I wouldn't mind that one bit.
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 12:45

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I have been trying very hard to stick to my chronological order of listening to these shows. (I did play '80 as a pallet cleanser after '66-'69.. I'm not perfect!) It's taken all I have to not skip to the '77 show, being my favorite year... and knowing that's also my favorite part of my favorite year. So your posts about it aren't helping. But I am glad to hear that I will really be in for a treat. Box photos: They seem to indicate your box got to Forrest Park completely unscathed. I don't even see any of the tiny flaws like mine has.
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 12:52

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It just occurred to me that I need to be focussing on where to put this box before I pick up my 3 year old son for the weekend today. Few delicate things are safe from a toddler, and the paint job on this monster just beckons to a kid.. looking like a toy box and all.
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Submitted by Alain on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:01

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A massacre ! The second concert of 30 Trips Around The Sun is a real killing. From the first title, Viola Lee Blues, I was on the knees. A force, a cohesion, a jam to break everything. A The Other One, nervous and full of energy. A really enjoyable Alligator. An inventive and unbridled Caution (part of which has also been taken on Anthem of the Sun). And all the rest… This concert of November 10, 1967 is amazing maturity. We frankly have trouble recognizing the 1966 group, the Dead evolved supersonic manner. Garcia is much more present than in 1966. If I had one day explain to someone what is an acid trip, I just tell him to listen Anthem of the Sun and this show.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:07

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I just bought an empty 30 Trips box,, now I need 30 GD releases that will fit in there. All the Road Trips, To Terrapin, 4.18.70 and 11.18.72 will fit nicely. Hopefully the 2 stash spots can come in use.. And I already know what 45 I am putting in the empty spot.. My newly acquired Sugar Magnolia/ Mr Charlie is going in there!! Sunshine Daydream !! Cover art on cd cases is ok. My vote would have been to do a Hundred Year Hall cover art theme. Always one of my favorites. Phil in the middle with his glasses Lol Bring on the Fillmore West 1970 Box - April 9 ! April 10 !! April 11 !!! April 12 !!!! And add *4.3.70 - Cincinnati as the bonus disc !!!!!
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:11

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Great to see the box has arrived. Hope you have as much fun with it as I am. Cheers to a long great weekend for you!
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:16

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I may try to spin your E72 show this weekend. Really want to hear it. Overloaded with tons of new dead. Man and a lot of it is virgin territory. How exciting indeed! Glad yours and others from around the world are getting theirs. Amazing!
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Submitted by chastason on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:16

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Submitted by TheDude77 on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:19

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I agree, Alain, this Viola Lee Blues from 1967 is tremendous. I thought the version from 1966 was awesome, but this one is even better. Will be listening to these shows a few more times before moving on.
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:22

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Everyone put forth positive vibes...let's help these folks get their 30 Trips. I mean it is time for everybody to be Dancin a ring around the Sun!
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Submitted by Duece on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:24

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Can someone give me the email or phone for Dr. Rhino? Disc one from the 94 show showed up with a nice crack in it, and Disc one from the 66 show scratched all up, looks like someone played some hockey with it. Contacted customer service but have not heard back from them yet, was suppose to get an email. Check those discs people, unfortunately not all the sets are Just Exactly Perfect
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:48

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Another hour or so.. and I start my weekend which includes digging into this box. I hear you G. Farseer.. I would be jonsin' to get my grubby paws on the box too, if mine were stuck in postal limbo. May all (or lots) of the people that haven't gotten their boxes get them today. Perhaps they need to bring in Santa to deliver all remaining by dawn tomorrow.
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Submitted by Alain on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:54

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Gary, Thank you for your post. My first concert was that of May 4, 1972. It was my first contact with the Dead. I wish you good listening! You tell me what you think.
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Submitted by outpost on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:02

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Just been listening to a friend's copy of 30 Trips, and noticed that songs have been moved around (presumably to fit on discs), and it made me wonder if the USB will have the sets in their correct order ?The question may've been asked already, but a can't be arsed to look through all the posts.
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Submitted by skeebe on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:11

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Thanks Tom H for the confirmation. I also just had a thought and checked the audio stream on the site here and it is present there too. At least it isn't just me. It only lasts about a minute so no big deal. I was getting ready to add it to my Dr. Rhino shit be messed up list.
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Submitted by fluffua 01 on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:20

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Just curious I just re-boxed the set after putting the discs in jewel cases, keeping the cases safe, and not worrying about which disc I pull. anybody else did this? also everybody else is talking about the show holders; mine looks black not the traditional stealie blue
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Submitted by davidadavis@gm… on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:36

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But there were so many, which are your favorites For a complete list see http://gratefulseconds.blogspot.com/2015/10/complete-help-on-way-histor… I prefer the earliest ones Era 1, 1975-1977, The Crown Jewels 1. 6/17/1975 Winterland Help On The Way (no lyrics) > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower; Only Instrumental Help; Closes Set 1 2. 8/13/1975 Great American Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower (Gold Standard); Early Bootleg Make Believe Ballroom; opens Show 3. 9/28/1975 Golden Gate Park Help On The Way > Slipknot!; Dirst Incomplete (One Set Show); Franklin's played later 4. 6/3/1976 Portland Help On The Way [5:01] > Slipknot! [13:04] > Franklin's Tower [11:04]; Set 2 5. 6/4/1976 Portland Help On The Way [4:26] > Slipknot! [10:59] > Franklin's Tower [11:38]; Set 1 a. 6/9/1976 Boston Standalone Franklin's Encore (My First Show); only standalone Franklin's encore in Grateful Dead history 6. 6/10/1976 Boston Help On The Way [4:14] > Slipknot! [7:28] > Franklin's Tower [10:24]; Set 2 7. 6/14/1976 Beacon Help On The Way [5:19] > Slipknot! [11:59] > Franklin's Tower [6:17#]; Set 2 8. 6/17/1976 Passiac Help On The Way [4:24] > Slipknot! [8:35] > Franklin's Tower [10:18#]; Set 2 9. 6/19/1976 Passiac Help On The Way [4:34] > Slipknot! [7:18] > Franklin's Tower [9:34] > (1) The Music Never Stopped [5:10] ; Opens Show Early FM Tape 10. 6/21/1976 Philly Help On The Way [4:06] > Slipknot! [9:13] > Franklin's Tower [11:09]; Set 2 11. 6/24/1976 Philly Help On The Way [4:10] > Slipknot! [9:50] > Franklin's Tower [9:42] > Samson And Delilah [5:55] ; Set 2 12. 6/27/1976 Chicago Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower > Sugar Magnolia; Set 2 13. 7/12/1976 Orpheum Help On The Way [4:32] > Slipknot! [7:44] > Franklin's Tower [14:11] ; Set 2 14. 8/4/1976 Jersey City Help On The Way [6:20] > Slipknot! [10:21] > Franklin's Tower [11:57] > Dancing In The Street [14#:01] > The Wheel [5:57] > Samson And Delilah [6:50] ; Set 2 15. 9/23/1976 Duke Help On The Way [#5:21] > Slipknot! [9:28] > Franklin's Tower [11:38] > Looks Like Rain [7:05] ; Set 2 16. 9/24/1976 William & Mary Help On The Way [4:14] > Slipknot! [5:51] > Drums [5:36] > Slipknot! [5:24] > Franklin's Tower [8:05] > The Music Never Stopped [5:49] > Stella Blue [7:29] ; Set 2 17. 9/27/1976 Rochester Help On The Way [4:54] > Slipknot! [7:33] > Drums [5:50] > The Other One [9:55] > Wharf Rat [10:39] > Slipknot! [2:21] > Franklin's Tower [17:32] > Around And Around [7:01]; Set 2, First Split; LONGEST EARLY FRANKLINS 18. 10/1/1976 Indianapolis Help On The Way [4:07] > Slipknot! [12:52] > Franklin's Tower [10:18]; Set 2 19. 10/9/1976 Oakland Help On The Way [5:14] > Slipknot! [5:32] > Drums [3:51] > Samson And Delilah [6:50] > Slipknot! [6:36] > Franklin's Tower [12:#25] > One More Saturday Night [4:31]; Set 2 20. 12/31/1976 Cow Palace Help On The Way [4:20] > Slipknot! [12:02] > Drums [0:50] > Not Fade Away [10:38] > Morning Dew [14:38]; Set 2 second Incomplete 21. 2/26/1977 San Bernardino Help On The Way [4:55] > Slipknot! [8:05] > Franklin's Tower [13:20] ; Set 2 22. 4/23/1977 Springfield Help On The Way [4:25] > Slipknot! [8:53] > Franklin's Tower [10:24] > Around And Around [6:49] > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad [8:49] > Not Fade Away [11:14]; Set 2 23. 4/29/1977 Palladium Help On The Way [4:43] > Slipknot! [8:39] > Franklin's Tower [15:50]; Opens Show 24. 5/9/1977 Buffalo Help On The Way [4:41] > Slipknot! [7:37] > Franklin's Tower [12:57]; opens Show 25. 5/22/1977 Pembroke Pines Help On The Way [4:58] > Slipknot! [6:44] > Franklin's Tower [15:12]; set 2, Dick's Picks 3 verison 26. 6/9/1977 Winterland Help On The Way [4:21] > Slipknot! [9:42] > Franklin's Tower [17:10]; set 2; 27. 10/11/1977 Norman Help On The Way [5:03] > Slipknot! [4:52] > Franklin's Tower [15:02]; opens show, goes on unexpected 6 year hiatus
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Submitted by OldeEnglish800 on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:43

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I'd bet we see another 30 trips sooner rather than later. Does the vault contain another show from all 30 years? I'd guess we've got stuff they could at least audience patch like they did with this one to get us another 30 shows. Hell, they made a few million off shows that wouldn't have been otherwise releasable in other formats. I don't see them waiting another 10 years or more for another box like this. Instead they can be clearing some stuff from the vaults while hanging onto the better stuff they have other plans for and bring in millions. That being said, what is disc rot? I haven't checked my whole box yet, doing that this weekend. I have bought thousands of CDs and stored thousands of burned CDs over the years and have never came across one that was bad or went bad over the years. What is this disc rot all about and what causes it?
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Submitted by the420bandito on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:44

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I have already found myself coming back to 2 shows ...many times: 1972.09.24 Palace Theater - Waterbury, CT 1979.10.27 Cape Cod Coliseum - South Yarmouth, MA For me it is not so much the set list or current members - they just sound great at these particular shows. I haven't really touched the 80's or 90's yet either so this list may grow.
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Submitted by TheDude77 on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:26

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Best to just Google it, OE 800. You'll find lots of pictures. Some of my old CDs from back in the late 80s show some signs of disc rot. My old Europe 72 double disc has it in a few places and won't play. I have an old Bob Dylan bootleg, and if I look at it in the right light, It's hard to explain, but It looks like something was spilled inside the CD. Not sure if that's the beginning signs of disc rot too, but it won't play either. edit: I've noticed some of that "something spilled inside" effect in some newer CDs (at least 1 in 30 Trips), and they played..although they sometimes get a suspicious activity mark from EAC. It's really bad on the Dylan boot I have and that CD use to play just fine.
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Submitted by Kstag on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:22

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Sounds like there may be a fungus among us that develops over time. I checked some of my 80’s disc’s and luckily no rot. Is it contagious?
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Submitted by One Man on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:32

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Has anyone in GA or FL received their box? Why do the gods hate us? I thought for sure Mr. UPS would darken my doorway and thump my front porch with some precious cargo today but all I hear are crickets out there. What is a red-blooded southerner to do? At least I have some fresh (to me) Miles Davis to keep me company. But still...
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Submitted by luis on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:44

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I'm listening that for the other one past morning dew andgood morning little school girlWhat can I say, this is the REAL, REAL, GRATEFUL DEAD!!! To me. Dr.rhino answered today to my mail. They will send a new case.... Whiteout dics They are really a good company,.. Not cable,electric, mobile phones...Lol Peace and rock on
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:55

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I am pretty sure by now.. everyone has gotten their box except one man. No, seriously.. I feel your pain.. I do love a good conspiracy, but often there is a less fun, but rational answer. ..there is something wrong with getting this out all at once. It could be staffing, clearing out half a warehouse within a few days creates its own logistical problems. It also could be simpler. Perhaps there were production problems and the supplier could commit to half the inventory by x date and the rest by y date. But who knows.. what I do know is something doesn't make sense. Could also be the boxcutter bandit struck again and they caught it before mailing and rejected those. But something is weird and I do feel bad about those who don't have their box and me having mine. So without offending people from GA, FL and clearly WY, something is not exactly perfect and getting fixed. Only speculating.. but the reply jrf gave from Cust Serv tells me there is something we just don't know. Either that or there are 10 employees at the warehouse and they have reached their 40 hour limit and no boxes for anyone in GA, FL and WY. Or perhaps Vladimir Putin did in fact cut a couple thousand boxes with a soviet made boxcutter. We will never know for sure. What else could it be?.. but one man and jrf.. I think its worth the wait. _________ One edit: my bro, Luis! Great to see you.
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:47

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@ Alain - the 11/10/67 show and 'Anthem' would be a good place for anybody to start as far as understanding the GD and what they were about. @ Keithfan & Lowspark75 - that '77 show is as near perfect as we're ever going to hear as far as live GD. Everyone, including Keith can be distinctly heard in the mix. All around fantastic mastering job with the '77 show.
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:15

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Maybe one of my cd's caught disc rot from a DAT. Probably should have stuck with 8-tracks. Is there a cure though- where's Jonas Salk when we need him.
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Submitted by fishcane on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:12

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Just got the following email from TXR: 10/24 & 10/25 Phil & Friends Show Cancellation A Message from Phil: Dear Friends, I am sorry to let you know that I will need to cancel the October 24th and 25th Phil & Friends shows with Chris Robinson. I was diagnosed with bladder cancer in early October, and have spent the last few weeks at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale doing tests and eventually surgery to remove the tumors. I am very fortunate to have the pathology reports show that the tumors are all non aggressive, and that there is no indication that they have spread. So thanks to my local doctor Cliff Sewell, and the incredible team at the Mayo Clinic, all is well and I can return to normal activities in two weeks from my surgery. Unfortunately, that means I will have to cancel the PLF shows scheduled for Oct 24/25. We will reschedule these shows as soon as we can, but in the meantime, keep a lookout for a free Grate Room show before I leave for the East Coast shows. I also plan to pop in and jam in the bar before we leave, so I hope to see you there at Terrapin. Love Will See You Through.... -Phil PS Ticket refund info will be posted soon
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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:15

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I realized that yes, the bottom of Boxzilla, while a really cool tree ring with an even cooler 'bolt, is also made out of a tough cardboard. To save from wear and tear, I put one of those little felt covered sticky circles on the bottom of the box near each corner. It sits atop stickies, thus saving its bottom. Just thought I'd share in the interests of others' bottoms. Sixtus EDIT: be well Phil
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Submitted by marye on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:13

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As requested, I asked whether the tix and backstage passes here are originals or reproductions. They are originals. Thank you.
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Submitted by Kayak Guy on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:13

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The type of disk rot my 2nd CD of 4/25/77 has looks like when a wet print gets smudged. The back of the CD is fine, but when you look at the silver side there's like a translucent "thumb print" on the inside of the outer edge of the clear plastic CD and won't play the last track. It's a 1/2 inch "wave shape from the outer edge of milky unplayable CD.
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Submitted by ozdh on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:28

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no, not our friend dr. rhino. you see, i think i might have a problem. having grooved on the excellent '66 item from the magic box i've developed a taste for much more. naturally, the extraordinary, crisp and brilliant 2/25/66 ivar theater had to be next, but i'm by no means sated. i can see a week or two at least of inhabiting '66. if this is gonna be true of every year 'til '79, i'm gonna have serious issues. i have way more content to explore in those later years, and with 2000+ at least hours, what's a man to do? will i ever get to savour the brent years, let alone reach vince?
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:22

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Thanks for the update Fishcane - I, and I'm sure everyone on this site send Phil our best wishes as well as a speedy recovery. I WISH AND HOPE FOR ALL THE BEST FOR YOU PHIL!
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Submitted by ozdh on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:53

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from me to phil, strive boldly dear friend...
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Submitted by Jackstrawdavect on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:32

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Send positive energy and love, and a box of rain, to ease the pain
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Submitted by wjonjd on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:43

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Thanks for taking the time to clarify this for us!
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:51

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I know this is unrelated especially in light of the news with Phil, but can anybody tell me if the 30 Days Of Dead for 2013 & 2014 is still available? I have 2010, 2011, and 2012 but missed out on 2013 and 2014 (I had medical issues going on). Any info is appreciated.
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Submitted by wjonjd on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:55

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Prayers and thoughts out to Phil and his family! Please get well soon!! Finished 94 and 95. I really enjoyed the 94 show. Great set list, and the opening Help-Slip-Frank hits the spot, followed by Althea, cowboy tunes, Dylan, So Many Roads, etc. However, whereas the '93 show showed that Jerry could still be firing on all cylinders all night (love that show), in this '94 show it seems to me that although he is giving it all he's got, he just can't physically do everything he wants to do. I think it's one reason he pours so much into the ballads where he can reach emotional heights without as much reliance on consistently inspired guitar playing. The rest of the band makes the extra effort to provide some of the intensity that used start with Jerry. Love having this show though, and the sound is wonderful. In the '95 show, the issues with Jerry's level of playing continue what was seen in the '94 show. That said, I still very much enjoyed the show, and frankly, the second set is really really good (we can live with one Samba in the box, can't we?). The Drums-Space sequence is one of my favorites in the box, and the post drums section (just Johanna, Sugar Mag, and the encore) is very well played. In Sugar Magnolia, you can hear that Jerry is still more than capable of coming up with creative licks, and I enjoyed this version a lot. Overall, the '94 and '95 shows were better than expected they would be, and the '93 show was WAY better than I thought it would be (a truly great show.)
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Submitted by Kate_C. on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:18

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...quit poodling on my lawn!" - Mr. Richards {{{Phil}}}
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:27

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Big Love comin' at'cha
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:06

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Beautiful.Red velvet #1811 Ticket 1993-05-27 Cal Expo Pass 1995-02-24 Oakland Coliseum ...& one large serving of humble pie w/ a hint of crow. Thanks Doc. Get well Phil Fingers crossed for Georgia,Florida,Montana and any others pulling their hair out right now.
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Submitted by dead tanuki on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:18

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Thanks for getting the clarification, marye. And since I'm the one who cast doubt in the first place, lemme just say: awesome! Thanks, TPTB!
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:48

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That's a good idea, Sixtus_
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Submitted by toddl on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:10

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Makes sense the tix are originals or they would have reprinted shows from the box.
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Submitted by dead tanuki on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:02

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So, needless concerns aside, I want to let TPTB know: they really got it right with this box. The thing that I'm happiest about is that it gives equal weight to every phase of the band's career. I'm a Deadhead who likes all periods just about equally. I love garage band Dead just as much as primal, the Vince years just as much as the Keith years (or, at least, almost). I've even been known to defend '95 at times (the SLC stand is a prime example of why). I've long since resigned myself to this view not being shared by most, and so it hasn't surprised me that most releases have concentrated on the '70s. I can't even really criticize the exclusively-prime-years turn the Dave's Picks series took last year. That's what most fans want. But that's precisely what makes it nice that 30 Trips gives '66, '82, and '95 just as much love as '69, '72, and '77. You have to go back to So Many Roads to find another Dead release that did that. And So Many Roads completely changed the way I looked at the band. Anyway, count me happy that this box does what it does.
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:04

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I was able to download 30 Days Of Dead for 2014 but the link for 2013 gives you the 2014 songs again. I left a message on the site to that affect. Hopefuly they'll correct it so I can download the 2013 songs as well. Thanks again.
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