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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • rdevil
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    Seth must have missed out on the precursor to Dave's Picks, the yearlong series where the spouse ships out in February followed by a limited edition baby in May, August and November. Subscribers also received a bonus family pet that shipped with the first child.
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    1966 - 7/3, Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA Dancin' In The Street I Know You Rider He Was A Friend Of Mine Next Time You See Me Viola Lee Blues Big Boss Man Sitting On Top Of The World Unknown Title New Minglewood Blues Cold Rain And Snow Gangster Of Love ? Beat It On Down The Line Cream Puff War Don't Mess Up a Good Thing Cardboard Cowboy 1967 - 11/10, Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, CA Viola Lee Blues It Hurts Me Too Beat It On Down The Line Morning Dew Good Morning Little School Girl Alligator > Drums > Alligator > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) 1968 - 10/20, Greek Theater, Berkeley, CA Good Mornin' Little Schoolgirl Turn on Your Lovelight, Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > Feedback 1969 - 2/22, The Dream Bowl, Vallejo, CA Dupree's Diamond Blues-> Mountains Of The Moon-> Dark Star-> Cryptical Envelopment-> Drums-> The Other One-> Cryptical Envelopment-> Death Don't Have No Mercy Set 2 Doin' That Rag-> Saint Stephen-> The Eleven-> Turn On Your Love Light 1970 - 4/15, Winterland, San Francisco, CA Cold Rain & Snow China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider Mama Tried It's A Man's World Candyman Hard To Handle Set 2 ? Cryptical Envelopment -> Drums -> Jam -> Drums -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment -> Dire Wolf Dancin' In The Streets Turn On Your Lovelight -> Not Fade Away -> Turn On Your Lovelight 1971 - 3/18, Fox Theater, St. Louis, MO Casey Jones Me And My Uncle Big Boss Man Bertha Me And Bobby McGee Loser China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider The Rub Playing In The Band Set 2 ? Cumberland Blues Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Wharf Rat Sugar Magnolia Greatest Story Ever Told > Johnny B. Goode Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad > Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks) > Feedback Encore ? Uncle John's Band 1972 - 9/24, Palace Theater, Waterbury, CT Big Railroad Blues Mexicali Blues Loser Black Throated Wind Cumberland Blues Sugaree El Paso Tennessee Jed Beat it on Down the Line Bird Song Big River Brown Eyed Women Playing in the Band Set 2 Greatest Story Ever Told Bertha Promised Land Friend of the Devil Jack Straw Tomorrow Is Forever Me and My Uncle Dark Star drums China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Sugar Magnolia Encore One More Saturday Night 1973 - 11/14, San Diego Sports Arena, San Diego, CA Big Railroad Blues Jack Straw Sugaree Mexicali Blues Here Comes Sunshine Black Throated Wind Cumberland Blues Row Jimmy The Race Is On Brown Eyed Women Beat it on Down the Line Tennessee Jed El Paso China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Around and Around Set 2 Truckin' The Other One Big River The Other One Eyes of the World The Other One Wharf Rat Me and My Uncle Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad Encore ? One More Saturday Night 1974 - 9/18, Parc des Expositions, Dijon, France Uncle John's Band Jack Straw Friend of the Devil Black-Throated Wind Scarlet Begonias Mexicali Blues Row Jimmy Beat it on Down the Line Deal The Race is On To Lay Me Down Playin' in the Band Set 2 Loose Lucy Big River Peggy-O Me and My Uncle Eyes of the World China Doll He's Gone Truckin' drums Caution Jam Ship of Fools Johnny B. Goode Encore U.S. Blues 1975 - 9/28, Lindley Meadows, Golden gate Park, San Francisco, CA Help on the Way> Slipknot! Music Never Stopped They Love Each Other Beat it on Down the Line Franklin's Tower Big River It Must Have Been the Roses Truckin'> The Eleven> Drums> Stronger Than Dirt> Not Fade Away> Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad> One More Saturday Night 1976 - 10/3, Cobo Arena, Detroit, MI Sugaree New Minglewood Blues Ramble on Rose Looks Like Rain Loser El Paso Scarlet Begonias Music Never Stopped Set 2 Samson and Delilah It Must Have Been the Roses Playin' in the Band The Wheel Good Lovin' Comes a Time Dancin' in the Streets Not Fade Away Dancin' in the Streets Around and Around 1977 - 4/25, Capitol Theater, Passaic, NJ New Minglewood Blues Deal Mama Tried They Love Each Other Looks Like Rain Peggy-O Lazy Lightnin' Supplication Ship of Fools El Paso Brown Eyed Women Music Never Stopped Set 2 Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Samson and Delilah Terrapin Station Playin' in the Band drums Wharf Rat Playin' in the Band Encore U.S. Blues 1978 - 5/14, Providence Civic Center, Providence, RI Mississippi Half-Step Cassidy They Love Each Other Looks Like Rain It Must Have Been the Roses Me and My Uncle Big River Brown Eyed Women Let it Grow Set 2 Samson and Delilah Ship of Fools Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World drums Not Fade Away Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad Around and Around U.S. Blues 1979 - 10/27, Cape Cod Coliseum, South Yarmouth, MA Jack Straw Candyman Me and My Uncle Big River Brown Eyed Women Easy to Love You New Minglewood Blues Stagger Lee Lost Sailor Saint of Circumstance Deal Set 2 Dancin' in the Streets Franklin's Tower He's Gone Caution Jam The Other One Drums Not Fade Away Black Peter Around and Around Encore One More Saturday Night 1980 - 11/28, Lakeland Civic Center, Lakeland, FL Jack Straw Peggy-O Little Red Rooster Tennessee Jed Passenger Deep Elem Blues Looks Like Rain Deal Set 2 Feel Like a Stranger To Lay Me Down Let it Grow Terrapin Station Drums Not Fade Away Black Peter Sugar Magnolia Encore U.S. Blues 1981 - 5/16, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY Feel Like a Stranger Friend of the Devil Me and My Uncle Big River Althea C.C. Rider Brown Eyed Women Passenger High Time Let it Grow Don't Ease Me In Set 2 Shakedown Street Bertha Lost Sailor Saint of Circumstance Spanish Jam drums Truckin' Nobody's Jam Stella Blue Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad One More Saturday Night Encore Uncle John's Band 1982 - 7/31, Manor Downs, Austin, TX Alabama Getaway Promised Land Candyman El Paso Bird Song Little Red Rooster Ramble on Rose It's All Over Now Brown Eyed Women Music Never Stopped Deal Set 2 Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World Drums Uncle John's Band Truckin' Morning Dew One More Saturday Night Encore Don't Ease Me In 1983 - 10/21, The Centrum, Worcester, MA Music Never Stopped Loser C.C. Rider Cumberland Blues Cassidy Ramble on Rose My Brother Esau Big Railroad Blues Promised Land Set 2 Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Uncle John's Band Playin' in the Band Drums (Sage & Spirit Jam) Truckin' Wharf Rat I Need a Miracle Touch of Grey Encore Johnny B. Goode 1984 - 10/12, Augusta Civic Center, Augusta, ME Feel Like a Stranger It Must Have Been the Roses On the Road Again Jack-a-Roe It's All Over Now Cumberland Blues Music Never Stopped Set 2 Cold Rain and Snow Lost Sailor Saint of Circumstance Don't Need Love Uncle John's Band Drums Playin' in the Band Uncle John's Band Morning Dew Encore Good Lovin' 1985 - 6/24, River Bend Music Center, Cincinnati, OH Alabama Getaway Greatest Story Ever Told They Love Each Other New Minglewood Blues Tennessee Jed My Brother Esau Loser Let it Grow Set 2 Iko Iko Samson and Delilah He's Gone Smokestack Lightnin' Cryptical Envelopment Drums Comes a Time The Other One Cryptical Envelopment Wharf Rat Around and Around Good Lovin' Encore U.S. Blues 1986 - 5/3, Cal Expo Amphitheater, Sacramento, CA Cold Rain And Snow The Race Is On They Love Each Other C C Rider High Time Beat It On Down The Line The Promised Land Deal Set 2 Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain Man Smart (Woman Smarter) > GDTRFB > Jam > Drums > Space > The Other One > Comes A Time > Sugar Magnolia 1987 - 9/18, Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY Hell in a Bucket Sugaree Walkin' Blues Candyman Masterpiece Bird Song Set 2 Shakedown Street Man Smart/Woman Smarter Terrapin Station Drums Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad All Along the Watchtower Morning Dew Good Lovin' La Bamba Good Lovin' Encore Knockin' on Heaven's Door 1988 - 7/3, Oxford Plains Speedway, Oxford, ME Hell in a Bucket Sugaree Walkin' Blues Tennessee Jed Queen Jane Approximately Bird Song Set 2 Touch of Grey Hey Pocky Way Looks Like Rain Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World I Will Take You Home Drums Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad I Need a Miracle Dear Mr. Fantasy Hey Jude Reprise Encore Not Fade Away 1989 - 10/26, Miami Arena, Miami, FL Foolish Heart Little Red Rooster Stagger Lee Me and My Uncle Big River Brown Eyed Women Victim or the Crime Don't Ease Me In Set 2 Estimated Prophet Blow Away Dark Star Drums (Theme from ‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’) The Wheel All Along the Watchtower Stella Blue Not Fade Away Encore We Bid You Goodnight 1990 - 10/27, Zenith, Paris, France Hell in a Bucket Sugaree New Minglewood Blues Jack-a-Roe Black-Throated Wind Ramble on Rose Masterpiece Bird Song Promised Land Set 2 China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Saint of Circumstance Crazy Fingers Playin' in the Band Drums Playin' Reprise Stella Blue Throwin' Stones Not Fade Away Encore One More Saturday Night 1991 - 9/10, Madison Square Garden, NY, NY Shakedown Street C.C. Rider It Takes a Train to Cry Black-Throated Wind High Time Cassidy Deal Set 2 Help on the Way Slipknot! Franklin's Tower Estimated Prophet Dark Star Drums Space Dark Star Reprise I Need a Miracle Standing on the Moon Turn On Your Love Light Encore It's All Over Now 1992 - 3/20, Copps Coliseum, Ontario, Canada Hell in a Bucket Althea Same Thing Brown Eyed Women Mexicali Blues Maggie's Farm Bird Song Promised Land Set 2 Shakedown Street Man Smart/Woman Smarter Dark Star Drums Space The Other One Standing on the Moon Turn on Your Love Light Encore U.S. Blues 1993 - 3/27, Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY Hell in a Bucket Bertha The Same Thing Peggy-O Queen Jane Approximately Broken Arrow Loose Lucy Cassidy Casey Jones Set 2 Eyes of the World Estimated Prophet Comes a Time Corina Drums The Wheel All Along the Watchtower The Days Between One More Saturday Night Encore I Fought the Law 1994 - 10/1, Boston Garden, Boston, MA Help on the Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin's Tower Walkin' Blues Althea Me & My Uncle-> Big River Tom Thumb Blues So Many Roads Promised Land Set 2 Scarlet Begonias-> Fire on the Mountain Long Way Home St. of Circumstance-> Terrapin Station-> Jam-> Drums-> Space-> Last Time-> Stella Blue-> One More Saturday Night Encore Liberty 1995 - 2/21, Delta Center, Salt Lake City, UT Salt Lake City Friend of the Devil Wang Dang Doodle Tennessee Jed Broken Arrow Black Throated Wind (Weir Acoustic) So Many Roads Music Never Stopped Set 2 Foolish Heart Samba in the Rain Truckin' I Just Want To Make Love To You That Would Be Something-> Drums-> Space-> Visions of Johanna Sugar Magnolia Encore Liberty
  • Kate_C.
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    Seth, go with the box; if you really needed a wife and child, Rhino and GDP would've sold them to you years ago! ;)
  • Seth Hollander
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    Thanks, Chastason. I am wrong!
    I reviewed my LMA MP3 derived set of the complete Dead sets from 5/15/70 and can't find the Pigpen rant I have been angry about GDM removing during the Road Trips editing! I must have imagined it years before. It was so firmly entrenched in my mind that I never discovered it WASN'T THERE until you're disbelief made me check in with reality! Well, I am still right and accurate with any other comments I make. Everyone forget about this regrettable incident. My credibility is totally blown... Got a lot of hateful thoughts towards GDM to make up for. Maybe buying this box will balance the scales? There's a $700 see-saw rocking in my head, me on one seat, my wife and baby on the other. When will the see-saw settle to one side? Which side will it be?
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Paul Kantner was back with the Starship last night at the San Mateo County Fair, after recovering from a heart attack last March. He sounded pretty good too; great seeing him as well as David Freiberg who still sounds fantastic at 77. Fantastic version of Codeine!
  • Vguy72
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    Define "new"....
    ....some fans have stated there is nothing "new" in this box. My opinion is as thus. If I haven't heard it yet, then any given show is "new" to me, and that's all that counts....this box is for me, not anybody else. Don't mean to sound presumptuous, but that's my take. Do with it what you will. ....as far as packaging, this release is gonna be pretty big and heavy. I fear the discs might be packaged ala Road Trips style. I hope I'm wrong....
  • boblopes
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    Thanks for the offer to send it from Vegas Baby!!! I'll look at Stop & Shop on my way home from work and if I can't get it there, will order via Amazon. If no luck on either of those fronts, you'll be hearing from me Vguy... Thanks for the help!!!
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    Here in Connecticut I found many copies in my local Stop & Shop supermarket. I believe they're in the Boston area too.
  • DCBoater
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    Lot of Money -- Not really "new"
    IMHO -- -- This box set strikes me as a pretty opportunistic venture by GDM. Talk about "sticker shock." Wow. And, after 36 editions of Dicks Picks, another 12(?) of Dave's Picks, the "So Glad You Made It," and "May '77" box sets, not to mention "Road Trips" and various exceptional -- and some not so hot -- single disk releases, I couldn't honestly even think about plowing more $$$ into another "epic" box release. I'm a deadhead, and I can find reasons to appreciate even some of the "lamer" shows and tours, but I can't see plunking down so much mooola for stuff that, basically, has been duplicated many times on other GD releases. Do I really need another '77 show? Or another '84 show? '93? No.
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Single shows for $50? Nice; copy the discs before you sell them and make ~$750 profit.Why did't I think of it?
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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thanks vguy, I just shot some of what I was drinking out my nose.
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Woot Woot! It's 10:57 here in the northern rockies & the first dusting of snow has arrived!Just a small amount on the buttes & hills that surround town but,it's a start. :)
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....jrf said butte (sorry, couldn't help it)....
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Double entendre? I've seen buttes used for this purpose in the movies, but never tried it that way myself.
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....I'm feeling adventurous tonight....someone call a cab! ....right now, my cabs license plate reads FEEDBAK. Awesome '68 offering.
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Yes I did!;)
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Interesting takes here on Bruce's status. Wasn't he inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame as a member of the Grateful Dead? Not that "the Hall" is the last word on anything. But it seems to me he was as much a member of the group as Tom Hagen was a Corleone. And all this talk of "snow" and "rock" and possibly doing snow off a butte has me thinking '78 is up next.
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Actually, Bruce was the guy who got to induct them, introducing them at the ceremony.He wasnt inducted. I'm not sure if he's been inducted on his own, though. Now, Robert Hunter was inducted with them, the only lyricist to ever be inducted as a member of the band (not counting members of bands who also wrote lyrics for the band). Thats pretty cool.
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....riding that train. Been down that road. Luckily, I took the correct fork in the road....back to that Berkeley disc. Loved the early Lovelight....keeper.
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The Jerry solo on Candyman from the Cape Cod Trip really reminds me of Jerry's guitar work via JGB in '89 & 90. '91 too me thinks.Just a thought... starts at 3:32
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The only thing that ever got its tentacles into me in a bad way. Threw it off long ago for good. Still dream about it sometimes though. I can taste it and smell it in my dreams, and even feel the numbness in my gums (from finishing off). Oh yeah, i have cigarette dreams too. They'll do.
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....funny that numbness would be something someone would pay for....bad bad stuff. Was fun for a bit, but will grab you by the balls.... Stay kind my friends....
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Thanks for the info, my friend will be happy for the help. I think it's only the PC version that is involved in the transfers so far. So, if ALAC is lossless then the circulating SHN/Flac collection could be transferred to this format for sharing to this ITunes using community? Seems like a lot of work for a single player, but if people do the work to transfer the existing files to ALAC, then maybe they could share their work and build a collection of ALAC versions of the shows for ITunes specific playback. One more question, is there an easy way to to get from FLAC to ALAC without the wav step?
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There is another active thread on dead.net - no!!!! do not go looking for it, i implore of you kind participants, lest you take up thine holy meat cleaver and onst a bloody rampage wouldst thou embark upon - and i would like to commend jrf68 and ststephen71 for their wit and restraint, but most especially Ziffle who wrote out a most honest, reasoned, and patient response to the evidently deceased mascot of a flaky corn based breakfast sugar. Ziffle, i am humbled - nay, i stand slack jawed in awe, filled with fear and trembling - at the display of superhuman self control. Several times i thought of responding myself to this Anthony Of Another Thread, and each time i stopped myself knowing that i had not the strength to write thereupon without my head exploding, surely ending in Anthony's premature demise (although he does claim to have already made the journey of the Styx.) Hats off to ya!!!! :):)
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Yes, exactly. I'm not sure of a tool to go straight from flac to alac. I'm going to look and will edit this post if i find something :) Edit: i just checked and dbPowerAmp will convert directly from flac to Apple Lossless. This program is not free. I think i paid $18 for it, but that was a while ago. They do have a fully functional 21 day trial download. The program comes with several built in formats and they supply downloadable codecs for other formats, but flac and Apple Lossless and several others are built-in, i think. I also have Trader's Little Helper, but this program does not seem to have an option to convert to Apple Lossless, although mybe they have a codec for it - i didnt check and its not built-in. Edit2: i just checked, and dbPowerAmp comes in versions for both Windows and Mac. It is $39 for a single license or $58 for 2-5 installs. The $18 i paid may have been rhe price to upgrade to a newer version, but that was years ago.
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Wait!!! I just checked, and foobar2000, which is free, will convert from Flac to Apple Lossless (alac), or Apple's lossy compressed format (aac), or Apple's version of wav (aiff), but you need to also download their Free Encoder Pack. However, there is no Mac version. To use this to get the files onto a Mac you must do the conversion in Windows, and then transfer the files to a Mac. All the converters I saw that will go from Flac to ALAC directly on the Mac are paid software, but perhaps someone can find a free one.
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Why convert them at all, why not just leave them as a .wav file? The file size is not that much different, right? Wouldn't .wav be the best,,, it is non compressed, right?Will apple play a .wav file?
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People convert to flac because they are about 50% the size of the original wav or aiff file, yet when played decompress bit for bit to the original wav or aiff for playback. "Wouldn't .wav be best,,, it is non compressed, right". It's not best, if by that you mean better than flac. That's the point of lossless compression. They are ultimately identical, with flac taking up half the space. That's the difference between "lossless" compression, which decompresses bit for bit identically to the original, vs "lossy" compression like mp3 and aac, which throw out information forever to get much smaller files, typically only 10-20% of the original size. When they decompress for playback, they are NOT identical to the original wav or aiff that made them. Apple will not play .wav, but it plays .aiff which is basically the same thing, just in an envelope recognized by apple software.
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wjonjd, mac will play WAV just fine. I keep my better quality files as WAV. XLD Lossless Decoder (Mac only) is free (although I donated $10 b/c I've been using it for years). It will perfectly transcode between all lossless formats and will also do sample rate conversions, etc. and is highly customizable. Written by some genius in Japan. Anyway, been great chatting with everyone, but now I'm out of here for a while, although no doubt I'll look in from time to time. Life rears it's ugly head, must focus on work etc.
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If I have to convert, I usually leave it was .wav as well. I know its a big waste of disc space.. but...
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Wavs would be fine, except for the space thing, these particular flac files are backups that have already been created and already playable on non apple or Itunes systems. Just to be clear, the entire circulating 30 years of GD in Flac/shn is about 5 TB, it's over 10 TB in wav format, both are lossless, and it seems not easily playable in ITunes. To get from the already lossless flac or SHN files on the HDs to a listenable format requires conversion to an acceptable file type used by the individuals player. Why people use certain systems is personal choice, I'm just trying to find a way of taking what we have on HD and making it more user friendly to people that feel most comfortable in ITunes. My questions are to find a simple way to allow Itunes users to access the goodies that are in circulation, but not supported by the apple ecosystem. It seems like it is an option though time consuming, my idea is that if it's that much of a chore, maybe sharing ALAC files would be a way of avoiding duplication of efforts. I'm thinking of vines specifically made for ITunes users.
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Does anyone know if it is possible to export a metadata backup file using WMP 12? It doesn't look as though metadata is applied to the WAV files themselves, they only appear in the library in which they were updated. I don't want to lose the information. It took forever to update the info. manually.
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thanks for the clarification. There was a time, long ago, when Mac did not directly support the wav format, and Apple had developed their own equivalent, aiff. But I see that Mac has support wav for a long time now, just as Windows supports aiff. "Though the AIFF file was designed for Macintosh computers, the format can be read by PCs as well, just as wave files can be read by Macintosh computers."
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From Wikipedia:"As a derivative of RIFF, WAV files can be tagged with metadata in the INFO chunk. In addition, WAV files can embed any kind of metadata, including but not limited to Extensible Metadata Platform (XMP) data or ID3 tags[26] in extra chunks. Applications may not handle this extra information or may expect to see it in a particular place. Although the RIFF specification requires that applications ignore chunks they do not recognize, some applications are confused by additional chunks." There is a program called mp3tag (and I'm sure there are others) that allow you to copy some or all of the metadata from one file or group of files to another, and not just for mp3, but flac and others.
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It looks like mp3tag does not support wav. However IDTE-ID3 does. You can see and edit metadata tags for wav files using this software and it is a free download.
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I just realized that you were referring to backing up metadata that is not stored in the files, but in a wmp database. A program called "metadata backup" supposedly does this, but I haven't tested it. It can be found here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/metadatabackup/ Supposedly it has one limitation, which is that wmp lets you populate metadata fields with multiple entries. For instance, you can place both "Rock" and "Classical" into the Genre field in the very same file. Well, the current version of metadatabackup only backs up the first entry for each field, but the person who maintains this software states that he is working on an update to fix this. Edit: Here is a description of this software: "Metadata Backup, originally written by Dale Preston, is a tool for backing up and restoring all the information in the Windows Media Player library, including ratings, play counts, and custom fields." If you don't enter multiple choices into one tag, this won't affect you anyway.
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@wjonjd Running Windows on a Mac is simple and can be done FREE. Get a free copy of Virtual Box (https://www.virtualbox.org). Install your copy of Windows in Virtual Box. Install foobar2000 in the VM of Windows. Make sure the CD/DVD player is connected correctly (USB). This should then allow the FLAC converter to run fine. (I haven't done this but I run other stuff in an OSX VM using Virtual Box)
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Thanks for that. I will check into it and report my findings. -update- I have been fooling with the program, and my initial response is positive. Although I have not been able to backup 95% of the album art, everything else has imported into my backup. Eternally grateful. Thanks, wjonjd MVP!!
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Try xACT to convert flacs on your Mac. It's free and the icon is a character from where the wild things are.
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Yeah, I use virtual machines quite a bit. They're not quite as quick as the real thing, but it does the job! You can run Mac OSX on a PC, or Windows on a Mac that way.
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Received the following uninformative response from customer support this morning: Hang tight! Your USB is still coming down the line! We're very sorry we don't have any further information for you at this time but we are working on it and we will get you an update as soon as we can. In the meantime, we hope you are enjoying your streams of the shows available on the order status page. When you do receive your USB, you will find an original Grateful Dead concert ticket and backstage pass included as a token of our appreciation for your unending patience. Many Thanks, The Dead.net Team Wow!!!! - a ticket and a backstage pass as a token of their appreciation.....well worth the wait.....
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Here's how I do it, for anyone who cares. I use xACT on Mac (have to change security preferences to get it to open in El Capitan. I use an old MacBook for torrents). Toast will convert flac but not shn. Buy Toast discounted at OWC. Convert flac or shn to aiff, then put the aiff files into Toast (convert - audio files). I change all the track names so that the data files will be listed chronologically by the computer: GD 1977-05-08 T01 Minglewood, then T02, T03, etc. Then convert/export all the tracks for that show as a disc image (Sd2f file in Toast). I then use the Sd2f disc image to create AIFF, WAV, AAC, and FLAC files. I burn CD-R's from the AIFF files, import the AAC files into iTunes, save the FLAC files for my future in-dash FLAC player in my next car, and give the WAV files to a friend who uses PC. All backed up on multiple hard drives and DVD-R. Because of the chronological way of naming the tracks everything stays in order. I back up commercial release CD's by using iTunes to import as AIFF, then modify in the same way. I use a separate computer and iTunes than where the AAC collection is stored.
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after sailing a week on heaven`s ocean here`s my list1. 91 2. 71 3. 68 4. 92 5. 74 6. 75 heard all shows twice , really love the 91 set - oh what fun to close my eyes and pretend this is here and now on 74 - the missing vocals on two songs is how it is, pretty cool - so you are there eventually heading on to 81 and 82 tonight...
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i don`t at all, had a sh...load of b`legs of GD , Furthur and Ratdog once beforethat old computer broke down and all was lost ( that was in the days of vines and burning on the fly , anyone remebers ? )- since that day i do make copies of my CDs and store them for the future - that`s all.
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Batyze: I got this exact email as well and I didn't inquire about my order. I haven't looked in some time so sorry if this has been discussed way back but it's obvious the CD set has shipped. Is everyone still waiting on the USB or is my order SNAFU? I thought it was shipping in October but hadn't received any word of any kind about it since the streaming was offered some time back.
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I used to have a tape of the dead doing this song. Back in the mid-eighties there was a tape circulating with two songs at the beginning that were listed as the soundcheck. One of those songs was Salt Lake City, (the other song may have been Big River). When I listened to the '95 selection, the memory of this tape came back pretty clearly. Health, all.
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I was surprised to not get a DaP 2016 announcement this morning. Surely next week then.
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Hi Huskerwing ..... you're not the only one. I got the same (useless) email. I replied that they should be upfront, and let us know what the problem is, and that they should provide a HQ download link, until the USB ships.One of the reasons I went for the USB, was to get High Def. sound, and a stream just ain't gonna do the trick .... I could listen to any of the countless free downloads if I wanted that. They've taken my $700 (£485) .... I believe I deserve better service.
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I have XAct, but find XLD converts to ALAC easier.
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I don't even have my box yet, nor an email confirming that it has shipped.Just an email confirming that I placed an order on 6-2-15. Order status says back ordered until 10-31-15.
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The movement of tracks on the 73 show is horrible and kinda pissed me off. Not losing sleep but jeez. "Tracks 6-8 are from the end of the show but are placed here due to CD time limitations"
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Such a hot show too.
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When I uploaded them to my iTunes I put them in the correct order. They will fit on 3 discs correctly, but Rhino didn't want to break up the jam Rock on
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Disappointing, in general. No Dead or Jerry release. Just a 2 LP set from Circles Around the Sun, "Interludes for the Dead"
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flip flopped with the show from Dave's 16.. Probably easier to sell the Spring show a la carte.. Since they have less offerings for that month. Both would have sold out in quick time, but I am sure it would have been sour grapes for som people that were wanting complete shows in order. Lump it into the box and few will notice,, haha Rhino pulling strings like usual. RSD - not sure what was the hold up. Busy year ? Last years offerings are still widely available ? Come on Almanac, bring good news ! Dead and Co tour starts soon,, should debut Almanac before tour starts
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out of order to fit on discs. some of us listen to the cd's and dont care about uploading in correct order the point I made was there should be 4cds
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I haven't listened to the '73 show yet but from reading Dave's notes while ripping it sounds like they did this to keep a long run of songs together. With the time constraints of a CD I'm not sure how else they could have done this without adding another CD and having a couple short CDs. I am excited to rock that disc 3, it looks great! That being said, I'm glad they didn't break up the continuous run of songs and did it this way. My problem with this is I want to reorder them now that they're ripped to my computer but all my music is organized by album>disc # and I don't know how to change this one without my OCD going crazy.
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I've finally had a chance to listen to all of the second sets from the Box, as well as most of the first sets. I can't promise I didn't skip through a MAMU or Tennessee Jed.So...IMHO... 1973 has to be the best show from the box. Crazy good from HCS on, and the 2nd set jam sequence is absolutely superb. 1972 has the best Moment in the box with the Dark Star. The '79 Dancin' > Franklin's is a close second. 1967 is the most interesting show in the set, a Dead we've rarely heard and an intensity that is unmatched. I won't try to rank the shows in the set, but I will sort them into thirds. Top Third: 1967, 1969, 1970, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1979, 1987 Middle Third: 1968, 1971, 1978, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991 Bottom Third: 1966, 1976, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 Most surprising show? Absolutely 10/21/83. What a phenomenal second set, and the sound is pleasantly decent. Most disappointing? 10/3/76. There were a lot of advance raves about this show, but I don't hear it. It plods, the sound isn't great, and except for moments in the Scarlet and Playing, I don't find much interesting. 7/31/82 was also disappointing, but more for the sound. I don't think there's a true stinker in the set, but I don't see myself listening to the '76 or '92 shows that much in the future.
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Dude, I feel for you...and all the other fellas with no USB stick BUT there's hope...it may be on its way. Dead.net as an administrative entity is a clusterf**k.....CLASSIC example this morning I get an email from Dead.net telling me we're pleased to advise that my box has shipped and here is a DHL tracking number... WTF I got the box 16 days ago!!!!!! Ain't it crazy indeed....
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