Fare Thee Well July 5th 2015

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June 18, 2015 - 12:29pm

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Full audio and high-definition video from final show (July 5) on CD and Blu-Ray

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Full audio and video from final show (July 5) on CD and DVD

Disc One
1. “China Cat Sunflower>”
2. “I Know You Rider”
3. “Estimated Prophet”
4. “Built To Last”
5. “Samson And Delilah”
6. “Mountains Of The Moon>”
7. “Throwing Stones”

Disc Two
1. “Truckin’”
2. “Cassidy”
3. “Althea
4. “Terrapin Station>”
5. “Drums>”

Disc Three
1. “Space>
2. “Unbroken Chain>”
3. “Days Between>”
4. “Not Fade Away”
5. “Touch Of Grey”
6. “Attics Of My Life”

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June 27, 2015 - 4:53am

#71

PT Barnum

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who cares

only a fool would buy this. Seriously, it would be funny to see Bobby fall down or Ms. Lesh come out and tell phil he's playing badly or Mickey throw a drum stick at Billy, or perhaps an old Helly's angel come out and beat someone up. What next? How much money do these guys need? what a joke.
June 25, 2015 - 6:36pm

#72

Inadrainditch

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June 13, 2015

The Answer

Forward Marketing. This is it for the band. As we can see it is a highly produced affair. This is not our 70's Dead Show. Many hands in this. And the product will deliver. This is a legacy show and by the looks of them doing a 2 DVD set JUST for Sunday says that Sunday will be a long night...LONG!! Maybe everyone should reserve judgement until after the product is delivered.
June 25, 2015 - 2:37pm

#73

ccclyde

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Four Points:

Firstly, props to the entire GD organization for allowing a message board, and not deleting disparaging comments. Second. The prices are too high. They should have thought about this, but at this point, this ship has--not unlike the Grateful Dead--steered off on its own course. GD50 (I prefer that name b/c it's shorter) has officially blown up. It's also the last shows of anything near this size. Let's be real, rightly or wrongly, it's marketed as the first real GD shows in 20 years. And given the number of people who will show up within 1 mile of Soldier Field, it's closer than anything else to those amazing shows that ended 20 years ago. Third, I think people are worried this is it. Let's face it, Phil is still the biggest draw, and Phil is done with these kinds of shows. That fact is driving them to charge more. They did that here. Too bad because they needed to rebuild trust with fans after the last 3 months. I imagine these kinds of prices are out of the band's control, by now. That's because there really isn't a band anymore. They're just guys getting together to play a few shows. That probably makes it harder to assert against promoters who are naturally capitalists. Fourth. At least this is happening. I think they're doing it right as far as the band goes. Trey is perfect for this. Bruce too. I think it's going to be great. Hopefully, it is, and we can forget about the other stuff, like these darn prices.
June 25, 2015 - 1:55pm

#74

reijo29

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I just don't get these prices.....

First $700, yes I said $700 for a box set. And now $55 for a single show that has not even happened yet. Everything is really starting to seem business like. Great point on Gucci bobaloo. I guess no VW vans will be allowed in the parking lots. Just Range Rovers and Escalades from now on. In all seriousness it's becoming very EXclusive rather than inclusive. I still want many of these great products but I feel like I am simply being priced out.
June 25, 2015 - 1:54pm

#75

temp_q

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December 11, 2007

release?

will these be released before the shows so I know what songs they will play in Chicago?
June 25, 2015 - 12:52pm

#76

curaeus

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April 23, 2015

Miss Jerry but...

For those Deadheads who, for reasons of geography or cost, can't attend any of the farewell shows, these CD/DVD packages (especially the region free DVD's) are a bit of a godsend. Not cheap, especially when you factor in our present exchange rate with the US$ but it is what it is! Looking forward to getting it anyway. Hope all those who can get to the shows have a ball. Great pity the boys never made it down under but then, apart from Europe and the Egyptian trip, they didn't travel all that much outside the US. They had, and still have a lot of fans here.
June 25, 2015 - 12:12pm

#77

rich-the-plummer

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Does this mean there will be no taping at the shows?

I've been trying my best to give the guys the benefit of the doubt on this "tour", but taking orders for the DVD/CD of it before the show has even happened kinda seals it for me. Sad to have to admit it, but this is nothing but a money grab. Everyone has the right to make a living as they see fit, but for this band to come to this is still pretty sad. With that said, I'll probably order the DVD .....AFTER the concerts.
June 25, 2015 - 11:16am

#78

DoubleT

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June 4, 2007

business model

If the fans want to buy this stuff and cherish it that's great. What I don't understand is what the motivation would be for the company? I don't think John Cutler is going to do 24 track mixdowns for free. The cost involved in these projects has to be very high. Why would they make it so complicated and expensive, and needlessly limit their audience? That's the part that is very confusing and would like to hear more about. High quality, download would be the way I'd do it in addition to the CDs. If people want to pay an arm and a leg for CDs I'd let them. But why limit the revenue. My guess is people who want CDs and boxes are going to pay for them regardless of whether there are downloads available. The argument that "we don't want to hurt the CD sales" by making downloads available is counter-intuitive to the whole thing. You can't hurt a small revenue stream by limiting a bigger one . . . just sayin'. The part about the fans' demands, why they would buy CDs and DVDs...particularly of something without Jerry . . . that one I gave up long ago in trying to understand. Probably after about my third Other One show in 1998. :) They used to talk about the Jerry Is God camp. I was in that camp. How could you not be?
June 25, 2015 - 10:50am

#79

Ridin that Train

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I can't

I can't explain it. I think it must have something to do with nostalgia or whatever. I have zero interest in owning any of this fare thee well stuff. It's not the Grateful Dead so I don't need it or want it. I would go to a show if it didn't cost as much as a new car to attend but like you said who is going to watch a DVD without Jerry? Not me for sure.
June 25, 2015 - 10:44am

#80

floridabobaloo

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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

$700 box sets? Selling video/audio sets of concerts yet to be played? Something just feels weird with these latest developments.What if Weir collapses on stage (heaven forbid) on the second song? I mean no disrespect, none at all. This marketing is more inline with Gucci than Grateful.

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Full audio and high-definition video from final show (July 5) on CD and Blu-Ray

or

Full audio and video from final show (July 5) on CD and DVD

Disc One
1. “China Cat Sunflower>”
2. “I Know You Rider”
3. “Estimated Prophet”
4. “Built To Last”
5. “Samson And Delilah”
6. “Mountains Of The Moon>”
7. “Throwing Stones”

Disc Two
1. “Truckin’”
2. “Cassidy”
3. “Althea
4. “Terrapin Station>”
5. “Drums>”

Disc Three
1. “Space>
2. “Unbroken Chain>”
3. “Days Between>”
4. “Not Fade Away”
5. “Touch Of Grey”
6. “Attics Of My Life”

lol stoltzfus

my side hurts from laughing - I think I need go rent some Marx Bros rodrigodiaz - I can't make heads or tails of your comment - it sounds like you're saying they only should have regrouped for these shows if they were going to invite other performers on-stage with them, as a means to demonstrate that they possess artistic integrity. Did I get that right? Just curious - why is there only a July 5th show available, but not the 3rd or 4th?

Last concerts

The show on the 5th was a carefully crafted show with the second set being the best chosen pieces they could ever have picked. The 5th was the only ppv show I ever rented. It was profound. The 4th was a classic 4th of July Dead show. The third was a good warm up. The Santa Clara concerts seemed like they struggled to chose songs. They didn't repeat many. There's a good instrumental and vid-on-tripod 2nd half of the 5th from the pit, but the voices are mumbled by the crowd sound. 3rd and 4th, as well as Santa Clara, are all on YouTube in their entirety. Haven't found a whole 5th concert. Amazon is selling the dvds or blue ray without the cds for $26. I got a Soldiers Field shirt from a true Head that sold a couple dozen on line for 25 bucks. (Over $100 for some t-shirts? Seriously?) I'm glad I never got to Chicago. The ppv was fantastic, sharp videography; but the band's stage was blocked solidly at the sides, the back was a see through projection screen and there was a roof. I figure at least 30% had no view of the stage, really, and half of the rest had 100 yds distance to cope with. I got to see close ups of everybody, broadcasting from the blimp and the best fireworks view on the 4th. You were really there watching live. So, beware of capitalism. What changed? I've been following the Dead since '65. They've been the Dead since '65!

Regroup

I think if they wanted to say goodbye they could have done it in a way that aknowledged the other people's contributions beside the four core memnbers. Whatever you think Jerry's contribution was to the band there were a lot of other people who contributed to the Grateful Dead. Everybody from the roadies people like Mountain Girl who had to be Jerry's muse,donna and keith, hunter, the nrps who were on stage with the band during the early 70's and too many to really mention here. It seems like this thing was structured to maximize royalties and sales. I also don't think it matters what is released from the ftw because it is not the Grateful Dead and I would rather see almost anything dead relesed than this glorified further. This four core already made enough from the ftw to consider it economically a sucess. People are demanding what the release should be rather than what it is and are now asking for Chicago 95. They have to understnd this is not a dead release so why should the Garcia estate give its ok to include a bonus dead give away on a non dead release.

Right doesn't always mean being righteous

I have gone to shows since the 70's seeing the Dead, Furthur, etc. and saw my share of awesome, average, and not so good shows over the years Hell, I walked out of a show in 1983 because it was so uninspired, so Jerry was not always in his prime. In the end, of course, the band was best with Jerry by far. But the remaining band can still rock, so I went to the first and last shows in Chicago recently to see how it would all "end". Here are my thoughts: -Yes the shows were expensive. And yes, it would have been better for the band to have had a plan for the tickets so they would not fall into the wrong hands. But, who knew the demand would be so damn crazy??? Did you ever think they would be the hottest tickets this year by far??? I don't think so... -The shows were fun to attend. People were in a great mood, and the energy was excellent. It reminded me of the feeling at shows I had back in the day, even if the music was not exactly the same. Would the world be better off if they never happened? -The first show was the most fun for me and my friends. It seemed to have the best groove. -The song choices at times slowed the energy of the shows. -Some moments were awesome, like the Box of Rain to start the shows, which far exceeded my expectations. -I missed Jerry, as I always do. Hell, I'd have gone to these shows if they were the Jerry Garcia Band in a minute, but last time I checked that was not an option. So even though I do agree with some of the criticisms mentioned in the notes, I sense too much righteousness among the negative commentators. Because, in the end it was a few shows or none. I believe it is better they happened, flaws and all.

Just listened

to this entire show again with a fresh perspective after a month or so. Wow. It's really weak. If they put the soundboard up for free for download, I can't say I'd listen to it much if at all. I thought the FTW deal overall was great, a good thing. The first Chicago show was something else. But it got progressively weaker. Oh well. I don't have to buy it right? I will say Weir did a nice job on "Days Between" - he gave it his all.

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Sound Quality on July 5 Fare Thee Well recording for sale

Hi. I've been grooving since July on the Grateful Dead's last show. July 5 was absolutely inspired cosmic music and has been reverberating in my soul ever since. The thing is, I've been listening to it on YouTube and the sound qualities, even on this one show, vary tremendously. I literally just listened to a version I don't usually listen to and thought it was an entirely different show! Zoe's sound quality is phenomenal and makes completely all the difference. So what I want to know is, how is the sound quality of this recording of July 5, 2015? Thank you! And thanks for this board.

I think sound quality will be

I think sound quality will be great I made a CD for the car with audio from all three FTW shows ripped from the PPV broadcasts. It's not perfect, but sounds really great and hasn't left the CD player since I put it in there. Hoping that the final product will be better. Wish they would offer the July 3rd show separately....imho it's by far the best of the 3.

Sound Quality on July 5 Fare Thee Well recording for sale

These shows were multi-track recorded so this will be a completely different mix than anything else out there.

Thank you for your synopsis and information!

Forgive a question asked from ignorance, but that is what questions are for, aren't they? Is there a way to access the PPV renditions of shows? I know the easy answer is the DVD. But are PPV's one time only and that's it? An inquiring mind wants to know. Thanks!

50th anniversary box set

PPV = pay per view?? if it's that the grateful did have a deal for all 5 shows for 79.99 if you order by May 30th I think it was and in that deal you can watch it live or watch it everyday until it was removed from access I think in October via your computer similar to the way you watch you tube or MLB = major league baseball. Generally pay per view is one time but in this deal they let you watch it until October...far as people thinking they heard what will be included in the box set you don't have a clue what it'll sound like but I will say it's probably going to be better than anything you heard as they probably went through great lengths to set up to record this...santa clara they didn't and that's why it's not included in the box set...but in order to get the box set I need a track listing the fact they listed the sets isn't going to do it for me although I think all 3 shows were over 3 hours...just barely over 3 hours which is a lot for a concert but not 200$ for 3 shows.

PPV vs Box Set

I'm sure the box set will sound better, but haven't quite decided what I'd prefer. Sometimes it feels more "authentic" to listen to the shows exactly as they were broadcast before they have the opportunity to touch them up and make them sound the way they think they should sound. As for the PPV, don't remember the exact deal, but I think it was offered both via YouTube and MLB.com. One was for the live viewing only and the other let you replay for 30 days. In either case, the opportunity to view via normal means is likely long gone. At this point the only option is probably to see out a copy on some of the better known torrent sites. If you can find one labeled "Grateful Dead GD50 Webcast Rips", it's really good quality (720p) and has all 5 shows, including the pre-show, intermission and after show stuff. Pretty big download though...like >64gb for all the shows.

50th anniversary box set

and you'd save 200$...if you go on even you tube and stream you can hear them at least what I want to know is when you download do you burn it to a disc or do you listen to it via your computer or device? Lately I hear these great upgrades or high level of source then the CD comes out and they even call the CD inferior to the HD downloads so i'm thinking that can't go to a mere CDR or can it? but I probably would rather have all 5 in high definition...but santa clara is gone thrown out they won't work on it...so i'd go with the PPV is there's any to keep, I forgot it was only 30 days but if there's a way to record and keep those i'd go with them...there's a guy who sells DVDs on the net but he won't sell the july 5th probably because it's going to be released and he doesn't want to conflict but he doesn't name his source and he only gives it an 8 out of 10 when you know he'd have to give the PPV at least a 9...I can see not giving anything official a 10

30 trips individual shows

K guys - a few of you know but I have a pretty serious eye op to pay for coming soon - so I'm trying to shift the remaining shows asap. EACH of the following now ONLY $45US per show inc shipping from oz (sent day i get box): Email me at gilmourstephen@hotmail.com ShowS available still are 68 76 77 78 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 88 90 92 93 94 95 Also taking offers on scroll, single and book from box as a set or per item

These shows were multi-track

These shows were multi-track recorded so this will be a completely different mix than anything else out there.

Yeah the new mix will be

Yeah the new mix will be great I guess

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4CD ?

My shipping notice notes 4CDs. So is this night's intermission tunage being included? That's a nice little bonus, since it wasn't advertised. Personally, I didn't notice the Santa Clara intermission music at all, so this'll be a good single-disc taste if it's really included. If not, nothing lost.

Ok, so it's 3CD.

The turquoise package looks SWEET, not opening till after I finish the Passaic '77 show...!! Well, maybe I'll open & peruse it while I'm listening..... Psyched to watch this performance again....

Received this set for Christmas ...

Loved it! A few surprises along the way that made me smile more often than not. Have a grateful New Year's to all.

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Not Fair to the Well

I thought that Foul the Well was very well produced on blu-ray and cd. Too bad the musical energy level didn't live up to the hype - or the gravity of the event. Trey Anastasio was flat, holding back, zero energy into the material. Either he didn't have the stones... no, that's it exactly, isn't it - he wasn't the guy. Fucking sandbagged the whole enterprise. Zero fire on lead guitar, sappy lead vocals. Fish ain't the Dead on any level and how there could be any crossover audience between the two other than dumb people smoking too much weed is beyond me. John Mayer wasn't the easy obvious choice, but Dead & Co. towers over that Chicago product. John, you might give Troy a lesson in your spare time on how to electrify the Dead audience with soaring lead guitar. Melodies, bends, articulation... balls. A wee bit of energy pressed through the strings now and again. No one asked Troy Anesthesio to be Stevie Ray Vaughan; but even The Corpse of Steve Howe has more vitality these days. It's too bad, in one sense; but on another level, that failure reanimated the Dead. All things come around. Jerry wasn't havin' it in SF and Chicago. He is now.