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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #6631
    KeithFan2112
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    Speaking of Decline
    Yeah Palmer, you bring up a good point. What happened to Bob Weir's guitar sound in the late 70s? I want to call it choppy flamenco, but I don't know why I want to call it that. It's something in the tone of his guitar that changed a whole bunch. I may be morphing into pre-hiatus guy....I've always maintained that they were better with just Billy on drums, and that almost anything they played on the Europe '72 tour sounded better in '72 than it did after the hiatus (Bertha, Cold Rain, New Minglewood ((Ladies & Gentlemen - wow)), Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, Promised Land, Deal, the list goes on. But there was so much good stuff I like in 77/78 - Scarlet Fire, Music Never Stopped, Estimated Eyes, Help-Slipknot-Franklin, The Wheel, Samson, the list goes on.
  • #6632
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    For the Shakedown Sessions, I don't think it was that he wasn't welcome to the studio, its that there were days that he didn't even show up, especially towards the end. Jerry, in particular, was pissed and asked John Kahn to finish. He even has keyboard credits on the album. Wouldn't that qualify to some of the comments at least? I also think Keith's playing is brilliant for most of his career with the Dead, and I often spend large amounts of time listening to the Keith Years. I also think band members opinions count. So there's a lot to this, but most importantly I don't recall any significant volume of people bashing Keith's playing on this thread. ..and if there are some comments you might not like, they are almost always in response to someone stirring the pot with Brent bashing, which certainly offends people. I was just highlighting that for a host of reasons Feb '17th was their last show, so lets be thankful for what we have instead of dwelling on what we cannot impact. It is what it is. That's all, nothing personal.
  • #6633
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    Just finished listening Row Jimmy from 3/20/77. Keith sounds great backing up Jerry's fine, lyrical solo, but is clobbered by every hit of Mickey's bass drum. I think this was mentioned a few weeks ago; very apparent to me on this track. To my ears, it sounds like there was a change in the mix from 76 to 77; more emphasis on the drums(esp. bass drum), and a less "crispy" bass, making the overall sound a little muddier than it was.
  • #6634
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    I love the keyboard/era debates!
    I don't agree that "old" topics, such as era- and keyboard debates should be retired. This day's posts has been the most interesting here to me in weeks: from floridabobs culture reflections all through the Keith decline discussion. Almost anything that generates a flurry of thoughtful posts seems cool to me as long as it's civil. As a lifelong Deadhead, I think the era/keyboard debate is perfectly relevant and (for me) endlessly fascinating (well, nearly endlessly). I'm extemely conflicted and ambivalent about most of the Dead's post-hiatus music and have been that way for >35 years. Where else can we talk about these things? If we only stuck to the forum topic, we all know these threads dry up quickly and become boring as all hell. My guess is that,era/keyboard discussions generate the most interest here, despite complaints about "old, well worn" topics. Anyone really bored can just scroll though topics that don't interest them. I did draft a long post to contribute to the Keith decline discussion but lost the draft. Basically, I agree with LoveJerry. Keith sounds fine to me in the late 70's but as someone pointed out, he seems very low in the mix. Yes, there is a huge difference in Keith's playing E72 and May 77; but the same could be said for Phil and Bobby's playing. How could anyone not notice a similar decline in their playing? Listen to any of Bob and Phil's playing from the late 70's compared to, say Fillmore 2/69, E72, or WInterland 73. Night and day.
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    hahahaha What?? He stole Jerry's stash??
    No wonder he wasn't welcome (and no wonder he couldn't finish the Shakedown Street session). Hey hey, Jerrylover, don't drag my name in the mud lol. I only said he was a fair pilot. No but really Keith Moon was like the tazmanian devil with drumsticks. If anyone has heard his live stuff from Tommy and Live at leads, in that '69 - '70 zone, you know what I'm talking about. I can understand why Clapton or Baker (I forget which one) would have given that snide expression when asked about Moon's talent compared to Baker, because Ginger was great, a time keeper, an arranger, and so much more than a drummer when it came to making music, but Moon was off the rails excellent, and completely untouchable from '68 - '73. But if you compiled the best live 2 hours of Moon with the best live 2 hours of Baker, Moon is a step or two ahead. What Baker brought to music composition, Moon brought to live performance.
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    I am asking "us" because "us" are the folks who frequently say Keith's playing declined without a lick of evidence to substantiate that assertion. Forget what you've read on Wikipedia or wherever, since it's not exactly a well documented topic, and listen to the music - where is it? Did Phil really say that? If he said it, is it true? In a court of law it's nothing more than hearsay. Give me a song or just recognize that every time someone comments that his playing declined is probably going off the Wiki quote or the comment from Blair Jackson's book (thanks for sharing, never saw it before), but a couple of off-handed subjective remarks do not make it true, and they don't hold up to scrutiny, which is my main point. People are regurgitating hearsay that does not hold up to scrutiny - no wonder politicians lie so much - it's so easy to pass lies off as truth to the masses. It's actually kind of scary. It would be interesting to scan this site for the past several months to see how often this unsubstantiated rubbish was repeated. I kind of feel bad for Donna. And the reason I didn't bring up anything like drug use or marital problems is because it has nothing to do with my argument, which is simply that his playing did not suffer on the stage, and I have the tapes to prove it :-) Or maybe I don't - I am willing to admit I was wrong or uninformed, which is why I posted in the first place - to find out if anyone can point to a performance where his playing was off. Keithfan mentioned Keith Moon - at least when his playing was said to have declined before his death, you can hear it in recordings (Kilburn 1977, Who Are You). That I believe, because it's well documented and easy to hear.
  • #6637
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    Of course I agree with LoveJerry - not because I'm a Keith fan, but because it's true - there is really very little primary source evidence that Keith's playing deteriorated. Wikipedia? Even if Phil said it, ex-bandmates deride each other all of the time, it's the single most predictable type of slander they throw at one another. I'm sure he nodded off at the wheel a few times, but that's hardly a deterioration in skills. Not that it's a good thing. But I get LoveJerry's sentiment, which I might also add was not an argument about the reasons he left the band so much as a defense of his playing. So while yeah, some folks have pointed out that there was drug use and whatever, the main point is that folks comment about Keith's deterioration of skill on here all the time, presumably because they read a Wiki quote or Blair Jackson comment - yet the evidence, the music betrays the notion that there was anything substandard in his playing. If I'm reading her post accurately she's just asking someone to point out which songs/shows/period demonstrates this decreased ability to play, and indignant (correct me if I'm wrong JerryLover) that when the topic of his departure comes up, everyone always says he couldn't play, he couldn't play, he couldn't play. I have, myself tried to substantiate that claim that he could no longer play, but just can't find it. The proof should be in the pudding, but it's not. Long live Keith. Both of them - Keith Moon drummed circles around Ginger - he just colored out of the lines a lot.
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    Why ask us? We didn't kick him out of the band. There's a few factors you are not bringing up besides his playing. I don't think any of us question he was a brilliant piano player loaded with talent. But.. First there was his escalating drug use. By late '78 Keith had a heroin addiction (and for that matter so did Jerry). Towards the end of Shakedown Street, Keith couldn't even be found to finish the keyboard tracks on some of the unfinished songs, so John Kahn of all people filled in and did them. In Rock Skully's book, Rock states Keith was rumored to have stolen Jerry's stash once, which really pissed off Jerry. Shortly after that, Keith wasn't part of the JGB. Can't ask any of them if its true because they've all passed by now.. but I don't think there's much doubt about their drug use and drug of choice in these years. There was also the relationship trauma. There were regular fireworks between Keith and Donna on a regular basis. Violent fights, trashed hotels, smash up derby's in the parking lots, ...drama.. tension.. yuk. And then there was his playing. I think his playing had diminished or at the very least was not consistent by late '78, early '79 and, well, the sad truth is.. you can't get rid of Jerry and I'm not sure if having two junkies in the band was something they wanted or could continue with. Keith and Donna wanted to leave too. I think she left a few shows early in one of the last tours because she couldn't take it either. Remember, they were trying to raise small kids at the time. So its well documented that the parting was mutual. I'm not sure what is to be accomplished by going down that rabbit hole. They left and they got a new piano player. We weren't there, but I imagine if we were and if we were privy to all the facts and details.. well, my guess is one way or another, that darkness had to give. One Edit: I read cousins reply (which was classic). Yes, amateur slide guitar hour. aaaack! Love ya Bobby... but on this one, I agree with my cousin. He supposedly started playing more slide to get the sounds he (they) wanted they keys. ..and yes, Donna in particular was drinking a lot, but Keith was chasing the dragon.
  • #6639
    JimInMD
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    I agree with your post. I think most people's minds on this are 'set like concrete'. The back and forth is usually non-productive, and I can't say I learn a ton from it.. especially when the posts come with barbs or put down another's tastes or preferences. I actually don't see the debate, I like the Keith years.. but spring '79 was their last hurrah, and enter the '80's and they got a new keyboard player. It is what it is. I am thankful someone pressed "record" on the tape deck, sit back and enjoy (or press skip if there's out there that doesn't tickle your pleasure bone).
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    Check out JGB live shows from 1978
    Some great stops along the way from Keith in 1978. And another vote for Red Rocks July 7-8, 1978. Tennesse Jed ; Passenger ; Peggy-O ; The Music Never Stopped Killer four piece combo to end first night 1st set
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Text

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Submitted by rdevil on Thu, 12/03/2015 - 22:36

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I'm always interested to hear opinions that are a little different from the general consensus. The Miami '89 show has long been held in high regard and I really enjoyed it as I skip around the box at my leisure. My initial impression was that if someone doesn't like Brent or Jerry's "froggy" voice then this show will not change their mind. But for those who like it all this is a damn good show. The first set really rocks from start to finish and for me, the highlight is the kick ass Victim. I know a lot of people don't like this song and I didn't either until I heard it at Richfield, on the floor in '94 and somehow the light bulb turned on. After that I would listen to tapes and hear Victim and think, "How did I not like this song before?" If ever there was a Victim to change someone's mind I would suggest this one from '89. The second set is fantastic as well. I particularly enjoyed the prelude (with a lower case p) to Dark Star. The Dark Star itself is great but the mini jam before it is unique to my ears and exactly the kind of thing that gets me excited about these releases. I found the '88 show to be somewhat underwhelming, particularly the rather sloppy late segment but I'm surprised to hear that some are unimpressed with the '87 show. I'm far from an expert on '80s Dead but I've always considered 9-18-87 as a top five post 70s show and this release reinforced my opinion (I love it). But I've not delved deeply into that decade since my kids were born 16 years ago.
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Submitted by DJMac520 on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 06:44

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I have no problem with and fully respect OMGWAMS, as music is subjective. Whatever moves you moves you, whatever doesn't doesn't. However, it cracks me up to read criticisms of 9-18-87 based on the notion that there are better versions of some of the songs out there. Well of course there are, no shit. That can be said for every release as no one single show (other than Boreal Ridge of course) contains the best version of every song, not even Cornell. This is a particularly silly view of things in the context of this box set, given that its focus was to provide a historical snapshot of the band for each and every year. And this show does just that quite well. A show is the sum of its parts and the 9-18-87 show is an overwhelmingly way above average 1987 show at worst (don't take my word, it finished way high in Deadbase reader polls for years, among other Deadhead metrics) and was the perfect choice here among shows available for release in the vault. Not everything that has a "killer version of ____" is in the vault in condition to be released, nor do you release a show for an individual part unless it is a pretty special Dark Star or jamming vehicle.
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Submitted by boblopes on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 06:43

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It's a shame, hopefully drugs did not take another charismatic singer.
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Submitted by Huskerwing on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 08:21

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I hear ya. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of update sent out late this week to let us know about the USB status or was that just a rumor?
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Submitted by mbarilla on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 08:55

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I ordered a couple tee shirts (wow 30 trips shirt material is basically a rag AHAHAH LOL) and got the ticket for 1.28.87 , Chinese New Year and 1st show of 1987 :) Maybe when my ticket collects dust I will use that 30 trips tee shirt I bought to wipe it off,, what ever happened to Hanes Beefy Tees ? 9.18.87 great choice, Sept 87 is very nice 11.15.87 another primo show from 1987
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Submitted by boblopes on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 10:52

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Felt the same way about the FTW T's. Did not go to any shows but bought a Santa Clara one and the Terrapin one and I fear both will not stand up to the test of time. The Wolf shirt from Jerry site was nice quality.
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Submitted by outpost on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 11:37

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Dear 30 Trips USB customer, We will be shipping out your 30 Trips Around The Sun USB next week. We apologize for the delay in getting it to you. If you have any questions or concerns, please reply to this email or call 877-332-3638 (+434-205-7051 for international customers). We very much appreciate you sticking it out with us. Best, The Dead.net Team
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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 12:13

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VERY glad to hear the USB Gang will indeed be getting their wares before Christmas. Hope it all rounds out without a hitch and that your joy is pervasive. Sincerely, Sixtus
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Submitted by LoveJerry on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 12:40

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I'm amused at your amusement:) I guess I should have elaborated - If 9/18/87 is the best 1987 has to offer (as is pretty much indicated in the liner notes, and by you of course), and I can find a better Terrapin, Bird Song, Morning Dew, Candyman, Sugaree, etc, on EVERY 70s release, then why listen to 1987 at all. Don't mistake me - I'm a big fan of the Who too, and I enjoyed every note of their 50th tour immensely while I was at the show, but to playback a recording of it does not satisfy, because Townshend is a shadow of his former self, and Daltrey's voice is the equivalent of Jerry after '85 or whenever, and so, I would never listen to a live Who gig on CD from 2015 - I would go back to when they sounded good on record. It's just the nature of the beast. Same with the Stones. Same with Dead & Co; the show was great, I had a blast, but I would never waste my time listening to a CD of it, when I could be spending that time listening to One From The Vault. Maybe when I'm good and tired of everything that's been released from '66 - '78 will I go to something as 'relatively' inferior as Madison Square Garden, 1987. But I'll answer my own question - I've been taking the best of the newer live renditions and making mixes of them, since I obviously can't go back to the 70s for Foolish Heart or Throwing Stones or Feel Like A Stranger. That's a good use of several shows I had to buy to get the good stuff.
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Submitted by toddl on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 12:27

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WOW, that is great news.Very happy to think that those who have been waiting will receive this before Christmas. I'm sure many people have time off and it will be great for them to have this in hand. Based on my first listen, everyone should be very happy they never canceled their order.
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Submitted by NWScarletFireGuy on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 12:50

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Two questions: Does everyone have the bad sound towards the end of Jack Straw? That was a bummer and I don't recall anyone mentioning it. Second, in Loser, Jerry adds the 'Sweet Suzie' later in the song than usual. I'm just curious, does anyone know when that line was permanently dropped from the song?I thought a great show, I'm down to one left for virgin ears, '77, before I start all over again!
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Submitted by outpost on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 12:58

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Have doubts mine will arrive before Xmas, unless they lay on some kind of special shipping.Usually takes a couple of weeks, so will probably get lost in the mail !
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 13:25

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I believe he dropped it late '72/ early '73. Others on this site can cite the exact instance. As for the noise in 'Jack' (wheeze?) it's on my copy as well
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 13:33

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I'll take Obscure Dead Lyric Trivia for 1000 Alex, and I'm gonna go with 5/19/74 aka Dave's Picks Volume 9, aka Dinosaurs, the Dead, and the Land of No Return for the last Sweet Soozie. Who knows for sure. That's the latest one in time I can think of on an official release (which are more my province - I'm sure there are ton of soundboards that may contain it); I don't recall any post-hiatus utterings of Sweet Soozie.
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 14:25

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To Dead.net for the latest email. Happy 50th to all. Can't wait to get home and put on something real good. Hope usb is solved soon.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 15:04

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would make my list of primo tracks from Dave's Picks series. These dont have Sweet Susie but they are all very nice. --Dave's 8 with another top tier Loser. Dave's 8 start to finish is Top Class and nearly flawless. --Dick's Picks 20 - 9.25.76 - Loser And one that is officially unreleased but soon to be... The Grateful Dead Live at Stanley Theatre on December 1, 1979. Loser is one of the prizes for that night. Same with 7.22.84 - Loser :) With "Sweet Suzie" 1979 - Loser with "Sweet Suzie" - 1.10.79, but this show is famous for other reasons. 1974 - Loser with "Sweet Suzie" - 6.18.74, also famous for other reasons. Most of this show has been released.
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Submitted by muleskinner_blues on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 15:14

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As always, I'm getting caught up so I am several pages behind, but I did want to comment and say I loved the 1982 show. For the Brent era thus far in the box, '79 did nothing for me, my least favorite at that point...'80 was better, '81 also was lackluster to me, but loved '82. Giving a relisten just to that mini-box now to reappraise. Also, for those into the new Dylan set, THIS is how you make someone's Friday: "Dear Collector, We hope you are enjoying The Cutting Edge 1965-1966: The Bootleg Series Volume 12: Collector's Edition. Thanks again for your purchase! The holidays are coming early for you via a special gift from Columbia Records: 208 tracks encompassing more than ten hours of previously unreleased live Bob Dylan performances from his landmark 1965 tours, including 14 complete concerts – both acoustic and electric - and an array of recordings from television shows, hotel rooms, and other live appearances." Downloading now. :D
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 09:40

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The Sweet Susie discussion is interesting. I doubt if the date fell exactly after an official release (but it might have). Still, I think KeithFan is just about perfect in his answer. T-Shirts.. thanks for someone picking up on this. I quit buying them from official channels because the quality and sizing are 3rd world. Come on people.. pick up on this and give us at least a half decent product for chrissakes. That's purely and simply function of either management asleep at the wheel or more cynically a bit of greed in the pot. I am less aggressive about the delays and CD issues so long as they do finally stand behind their product and get stuff fixed, after all, everything musically related they release has aged at least 20 years in oak before they bottle it by now. But merch quality bugs me and the FTW slip in of non GD music bothers me because it was sold as a pre-order. Anyway.. I am off my high horse, I am really enjoying both Dave's 16 and the LA 67 show from the box at the moment. Nothing slacking in quality from these two offerings. Have a good weekend all. Get better quality T-Shirts, Dead.Net. ________________ Sorry to rant, I am far from disgruntled.. just a minor pet peeve. Have a good weekend all.
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Submitted by prafter on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 18:05

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Dear 30 Trips USB customer, We will be shipping out your 30 Trips Around The Sun USB next week. We apologize for the delay in getting it to you. If you have any questions or concerns, please reply to this email or call 877-332-3638 (+434-205-7051 for international customers). We very much appreciate you sticking it out with us. Best, The Dead.net Team
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Submitted by toddl on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 18:39

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Thanks for sharing the info., that is some addition to the set. I thought it was pricey when I first looked at it but 10 hours of unreleased material sure makes that better. What a gift to people who must be true fans.
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Submitted by dantian on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 20:30

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I would like to know when he started asking for ten gold dollars, instead of just one gold dollar. Crazy inflation rate. It would be funny if the same applied to say, Wharf Rat..."He asked me for a dollar, a dollar for a cup of coffee..."
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Submitted by boblopes on Fri, 12/04/2015 - 20:49

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Still being wowed by my chronological journey. I'm listening to the Worcester 1983 show. Blown away by Space > Truckin' - after listening to the whole show, on my third run on that sequence after a couple of trips on Scarlet > Fire. Wow that was some of the most beautiful Space I've heard. I know it says "Sage and Spirit" Jam in Deadbase, but I could swear I heard traces of Victim in embryotic form from Bobby. I jumped over to the show thread, but no one's posted anything recently and the former posts did mention Sage and Spirit. Guess I need to do a deeper dive. Speaking of T-shirts - I picked up a Europe72 T from Amazon for less than 20 which was a beefy T with the E72 Album cover on both sides. I wore it to the DSO show and a bunch of people kept asking me about it. Off to REMville with a playlist from the 73 trip. Happy 50th!!! Glad to see the Bolters got some positive news, they better overnight them to y'all!
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Submitted by rotey73@gmail.com on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 04:06

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Hi all, just wondering if there is a good summary of known sound imperfections (those unrelated to scratches) in any of these threads? Thanks.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 07:28

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right.. should be "asked me for Jackson, a Jackson for a cup of latte. That would be in pace with the times.
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Submitted by Syracuse78 on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 07:58

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I haven't been here in a while. Checking in and glad to see that the USB drives are shipping. Given that they weigh about an ounce, hopefully they will be shipped via a fast and reliable method. Someone mentioned being disappointed that non-GD music was included on the FTW CDs. I will say that while I had a great, great time at the Friday and Sunday Chicago shows (missed Saturday), I have listened to more of the Neal Casal discs than the FTW discs. I think it is really fine stuff. Some sweet GD riffs buried in there, and really nice instrumental music throughout. I think I may try it as background music for our next dinner party, rather than me throwing together a custom mix as usual. I am mainly listening to 30 Trips in order and am only through 1970. All good things in all good time. Oh, and someone mentioned a Space>Truckin'. Wasn't that Deep Purple?
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Submitted by One Man on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 07:58

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Muleskinner, my many thanks for the heads up. My Dylan purchase was tied to a Gmail account that I check only occasionally, so I might have missed it without your help. It's all downloaded safe & sound on the Macbook now, and I'm gonna plug it in immediately for some loud Saturday grooving. Yee haw!
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:26

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one of my favorites, I have 1994 GDM Inc, with the fruits & Liquid Blue tag. The fruits, they always looks so tasty. Bought it new over 20 years ago. The tees are hit or miss on website and shows, I bought a couple tees at Dead and Company show, one was Liquid Blue, very nice. I prefer Liquid Blue and Hanes Beefy.
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Submitted by MilesM on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:15

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I love those moments in a show when Jer connects with a crowd and it's like a lighting bolt blast the stage and the band explodes in wonderful blissful music. I think these are the moments I listen for in a show and when I hear them I realize why this music is so important to us. Safe to say I wasn,t prepared for it when it happened in the 87 Dew from this box. The energy from it carries the band right through the end of the show. What a great moment in music and how lucky are we to have these kind of moments preserved in this box for the rest of our good lives.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:26

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....I can't think of any other band that did it better. If that connection happened at a show I attended, albeit it being maybe a couple minutes worth, I walked away a different person. It was tangible. You could reach out and touch it, hug it, caress it, then let it go back to the stage....and no, I necessarily didn't need to be high to be able to grab that golden ring when it happened....mercy.
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Submitted by takimoto on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 19:10

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I'm really enjoying boxilla .... And all your posts. I'm only about 1/3 thru boxilla and am skipping around especially focusing on fav years and fav venues (mostly mass and New England since that is where I saw most my shows). That all being said ... I haven't done deep dives but Here is my take on shows Exceeding expectations....69, 83, 94, 75 ... Especially 69 Shows not exceeding expectations.... 79, 84, 73 Not exceeding expectations doesn't mean they were bad shows, just expecting a little more. I need to spend more time ... Especially with 79. Overall boxilla is meeting expectations. .... And my expectations were huge so that is a good thing. I do have a major static burst in 79 dancing jam ...anyone else have this? Out
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Submitted by johnny361 on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 19:59

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Hi gang, has anybody noticed what sounds like an echo on one of drummers snares around the 6:30-6:40 of Sugaree, that last through the rest of disc 1? I hope disc 2 and 3 are better because I'm in the apparent minority of really loving a Bruce/Vinnie show. :)
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Submitted by NWScarletFireGuy on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 20:40

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I'm home, the other five are away, and I'm cranking the '84 show wondering how anyone could not absolutely love this show. Then I read a post, which makes me laugh because one of the three shows that totally underwhelmed me was '69 and the only portion of a show that actually made me scream in ecstasy was the '73 China->Fire. Which is all good! Doesn't mean I'm correct, just means I need to go back and listen to the three meh shows of 69, '79 and '89 IMHO. So keep the reviews coming, I love reading them even if we don't necessarily agree but all agree The Dead Rock!
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Submitted by prafter on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 21:42

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The Jerry solo in Dancing in the Street is extraordinary...just beautiful in the 6:00s. I keep coming back to this groove and am floored every time. My suspicions confirmed...The Audio Dictionary has this Solo filed under their definition of the word 'Sublime'.
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Submitted by rdevil on Sat, 12/05/2015 - 22:32

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Listening for the first time tonight. The first set was fun. The second set: HO...LEE...SHIT! I think someone mentioned earlier that the jam out of drums sounds like Soul Sacrifice at Woodstock and I have to agree; you could almost put it on the set list. Just a great second disc. This one and the '71 show have exceeded my expectations in a big way. So far I've listened to a little more than half the shows (not in order). '73 and '72 are my favorites, but that's no surprise as those are my favorite years. I enjoyed your post, Takimoto. As NWSFG said, "Varying Opinions." The '73 and '79 shows were among those that made me feel I couldn't live without this box and the '84 is indeed one that exceeded my expectations. Below expectations for me so far have been '78 and '88. Funny how we can love the same band yet have such different opinions. Next up for me will be the '83 show, maybe Thursday night.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 08:01

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When the complete contents of Boxzilla were announced I was somewhat dismayed that 5/14/78 was the pick for 1978. At the time I was down on Dick's 25 (5/10/78 New Haven, CT. & 5/11/78 Springfield, MA.) and I hadn't listened to either show since I bought it in July of 2002. Good but not spectacular shows, plus the shows were missing two songs each. Earlier this week I "had to" listen to the 5/10 show - it sort of jumped out at me - I liked it very well and continued with the 5/11 discs. Again, it had the same level of intensity as the previous show and I liked it very well. Just this morning I finished listening to May 14 1978 and I thought it was great and it did have the same level of intensity as the the Dick's 25 shows. It's complete, and I do like complete shows for the most part, which allows me be the judge of what I like and what I don't care for. Great choice! I also played Dave's 15 (4/22/78 Nashville Municipal Auditorium) in its entirety about 2 weeks ago and that's a completely different animal compared to the aforementioned shows.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 11:54

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Spring 78 is one of my favorite tours to listen to. A lot of top notch highlights. Out of the 4 Dave's Picks from 2015, 4.22.78 would probably rank 2nd. Even with the short 3rd disc. Filler would have knocked that one out of the park Favorite Dave's picks this year was 2.24.74, least favorite was 3.28.73.
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Submitted by takimoto on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 14:44

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Dennis, thanks for sending the link for that 31 days of December ... I was checking out that link out and his selections ... pretty cool! I'll be looking for his Dec 2015 selections dave
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Submitted by takimoto on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 15:00

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That is funny how some people love certain years and shows and others don't. I will say with 3 little kids and a busy job I rarely get time to just sit and listen to music. Most of my listening is in the car on the way to work in rush hour ... so not fully tuned in. Also, I'm only giving each disk 1 listen through at this point as I want to make sure they aren't defective. I did have major hack in the 79 show that I need a replacement disk for. I recommend all you to do the same. I had another hack in 84 disk but its a song I don't care about so I'm not worried it. I'm only about 1/3 thru Boxilla. But, I will be spending more time with 79, 84, 73. Its funny too because 73 is my fav year so I thought I'd dig San Diego more. I presume these shows will soon exceed expectations upon further review. Speaking of further review, the Patriots just let the Eagles block a punt for a TD right before half. Good grief. peace
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Submitted by takimoto on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 15:04

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I like 78 ... i think it may be an underrated year. I thought the Dave's pick from 4/22 was fabulous. I also love that DP 18 from 78 (I think it was 18 ... forget the actual number). My fav scarlet fire with an awesome Samson before that. Jerry was on fire that nite.
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Submitted by NWScarletFireGuy on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 16:54

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Takimoto: On this topic I couldn't agree more! The opening Bertha is pretty darn impressive too, so is Cold Rain. Hell, it's all great!
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 18:04

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As it's been stated before music like all art is subjective. 1978 is my least favorite/go to year.Having seen them twice that year, the performances seemed lackluster and uninspired. Made me think '78 was '77 with a hangover. Also JG's substance abuse was obviously worsening. It seemed the back half of the 2nd sets were becoming less and less. Of course it could have been the shows I'd seen, but 1978 seemed like a bottoming out. Since I've been reading everyone's pro-'78 statements, I've been trying to listen with new/fresh ears. So far I can say Dap7 proves my point while DaP15 has given me new hope. I haven't listened to Boxzilla '78 as I'm waiting for the right time. I do plan on going back and listening to the older releases as well. All in all I enjoy reading everyone's pro/con statements. Keep 'em coming!
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Submitted by rdevil on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:33

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I've always considered '78 an inconsistent year and it was never among my favorites but DaP15 really got me excited. Then several great folks here posted links to hot '78 shows and I had to question my long held opinion. But I have to say, I wasn't particularly impressed with the '78 show in Boxzilla. I even gave it a second thorough listen to make sure it wasn't just my mood the first time. It just seems a little too "hard rock" if that makes any sense. Maybe my expectations were raised by DaP15 and those other great shows.
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Submitted by rdevil on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:45

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Interesting, you're thoughts on the '73 show given it's your favorite year (mine too). I really think the format of the discs disrupts the flow in a big way. Not to be negative but I have two complaints about the Box: we should have had jewel cases and the '73 show should have been released in order like the Europe '72 shows. It's the best show in the box (ymmv) and it deserved better. One more disc in the box would not break Rhino's back. I will soon burn this show to discs in the correct order and probably not listen again to the original (at least set 2).The glories of this box far exceed the negatives, though.
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Submitted by prafter on Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:32

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Favorite Dead Year70. NO! 69. 72 Too
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Submitted by One Man on Mon, 12/07/2015 - 03:00

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I've said it before, but Dick's 25 is my all-time least favorite official release. I don't mind the "hard rock" aspect of it, and there are a couple of spine-tingling moments in there. It's the way the performances often go off the rails into what is for me an embarrassing over-reaching. It's most obvious on "Dancing in the Streets" and a few other places. I know there's some backstory about hallucinogens, and that would have been fine if they had kept it cool like they did way back when they were learning how to play while being that high. That said, when 1978 is at its best, I really love it. It is perhaps the year with the most edge. And as long as they don't go past it, the energy is electrifying to me. All of the other 1978 releases are among my favorites.
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