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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    30 Trips mixing and mastering
    i was informed by PM from someone who got info directly from an email from the powers that be that the mixing and mastering was done at 24/192. So that would be one modification to my description below. I don't think that would have much impact on the time involved. The rest of the description would still hold. Everything analog would have been digitized to 24/192. Everything digital would have been uponverted to 24/192, mixing and mastering processes performed on the files. Then for the CD's, a set of files would be converted to 16/44.1 with noise shaped dithering and hdcd encoded, and another set of files would be downconverted to 24/96. I think the likeliest reason for the delay (i have no idea but it would be nice to actually find out) might be that it was contracted for overseas manufacture, what they got was incorrect somehow (poor quality, missing files, mislabeled files, who knows) and that the lenghth of time to have them redone and shipped stateside again was high. That's my guess. I wonder if we will ever really know. I very much hope you guys get your music before the Christmas holidays :):)
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    hard to tell which trip is best....
    but the one i really dig is....87 ! though it`s not the " epic " with " the usual suspects " - no DS , no Other one , no Scarlet - but the vibe , the feeling , the singing , the playing , you can almost see the audience dance and cheer....so that 87 is truly epic !
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    USB WAV vs. FLAC
    I believe wjonjd is correct, I left out the FLAC conversion. The exercise in math, however, did take my mind off this incredibly bad situation....
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    Feel like I won the lottery....Talk about an embarrassment of riches....just scored 2 bottles of 12 year old Pappy Van Winkle Special Reserve "Lot B" & 1 bottle of 10 year old, Old Rip Van Winkle. Pairs very well with 30 Trips.... This Thanksgiving I give thanks to being a very lucky man....in more ways than one. :) Happy Thanksgiving everybody. P.S.-I work for a small liquor store so I actually got it for what it is supposed to sell for,not the bullsheet prices most see it for.Now that I think about it,it resembles secondary market prices like DEAD stuff.Crazy P.S.S.-It's also officially ski season here.Whaaahoo!
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    Go To Rhino Records, On Westwood Boulevard
    An Internet Interlude for those of you with a sense of humor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKo8eW9HDSE WARNING: Offensive photo accompanies this 1 minute slice of weirdness
  • wave-that-flag
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    Bolt Bummer
    I get this isn't an Altamont type debacle, but for those who dropped the bucks for a product that apparently hasn't been made yet, this isn't feeling like a Woodstock-type love-in either. I was thinking of buying a bolt. I'm a non-CD guy who loves streaming GD music. Kinda the ideal customer for this, but I'm thinking no way now. Am glad refunds are being given to those tired of waiting. On the upside, this did free up some cash to purchase an unopened'73 Winterland Box Set from Amazon at original pricing. So I got that going for me. Let me know when you're ready to download 30 Trips or somehow get this figured out down the road. For now, the 4 CD set is sounding fine to me. Till we meet again 30 Trips. No bolt for me for now. Always loved Rhino, so I'm surprised. Used to shop for years at the (now closed) Westwood Boulevard Rhino shop. Always a little sad when driving by still. Oh well.
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    Whew!!....
    ....and with Cornell '81, I have completed my thirtieth trip around the sun. It's like having a buffet of sonic selections with which to sate your appetite. Mmmm....mmmm.... ....all sound spectacular except Manor Downs '82 and Zenith '90. Texas has too much high end, and France sounds a little muddy. Other than that. Impeccable....I maybe would have added a small light on the underside of the lid that came one when the box is opened. That would be cool.... And to those who ordered the bolt. I would hang tight, and wait. Easy for me to say, that that little piece of tech may be a hot commodity in the future.
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    driving people out....
    ... I used to say, "I put The Residents on when I wanted people to go home". OK, my wife would leave too :-)
  • wjonjd
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    RE: Here's the problem with the USB order
    I saw the posts by batzye and sfrank115 and wanted to respond as well as I could. I did some actual conversions on GD files ripped from CD and then did some math to determine approximately what the size of the files would be that were coming on the USB. I'll explain how I came up with my numbers, but first wanted to point out that although batzye's numbers are approximately accurate, he is assuming that the 24/96 files they will put on the USBs are WAV's. I think that is highly unlikely. I believe they will use FLAC's as they are musically identical and because that is the format that dead.net/rhino have always used to provide hi-res files in the past as downloads. His numbers are also slightly high because I believe that there is between 73 and 74 hours of music, not the 77 he used. I could be mistaken about that, but it wouldn't matter as I didn't use time to do the calculations, just the number of bytes. I took one disc of live GD music in 24/96 WAV format and called it "A-W24" which was 2.53GB. This converted as FLAC (using highest compression level) was 1.46GB "A-F24", and as 320kbs mp3 was 184MB "A-MP3". I used these ratios in combination with the actual size of 30Trips (including the 45rpm tracks) to determine what the sizes would be for 30Trips. I used the actual number of bytes rather than the rounded Gigabyte figures to get as accurate a number as possible. 30Trips-W24 = 141.9GB (24-bit WAV) 30Trips-F24 = 81.9GB (24-bit FLAC) 30Trips-MP3 = 10.1GB (320kbs MP3) So, if they used the FLACS and MP3s it would be approximately 92GB. Even if I'm off by quite a bit due to variations - like let's say I happened to pick a disc of music that happens to FLAC compress much more than most for some reason, it would still easily fit on a 128GB USB stick. As far as the mastering processes that sfrank115 refers, I don't have any inside knowledge, but I do know that almost all digital mastering is done in either 24-bit fixed, or 32-bit floating specs, and at either 96khz or 192khz. Since the files are being provided in 24/96, my guess is that these are the specs they used during the mastering process. All of the shows that came from analog tape would have been digitized to 24/96 for mixing (if multitrack) and mastering. Shows that were recorded to digital in anything below 24/96 would likely have been upconverted to 24/96 so that the hundreds or even thousands of digital manipulations that can take place during mastering don't add noticeable quantization noise, which happens much more readily at 16-bits than 24-bits. The initial upconversion is a simple and quick process, and wouldn't add any noticeable timeframe to USB stick delivery. I don't believe that the music for Boxzilla was mastered at 16-bits - that would be highly unusual because even though the quantization noise level of digital music at 16-bits is still basically inaudible, the quantization noise added each time you do one of the hundreds or thousands of digital manipulations typical during mastering of the files can create noise that IS audible. This is one of several reasons why 24-bits is critical for mastering, even though I and many believe that when you convert the final product down to 16-bits, the final 24-bit files and the 16-bit files will sound the same to human ears. In any case, I believe that all the mastering and mixing was already done in order to complete the production of Boxzilla. I do not believe any further mastering of any kind would be required as they would already have the exact 24/96 files that they will be providing on the USB sticks. Therefore, I do not believe that any mastering or mixing issues, or anything having to do with any further work on the files beyond what they already did for the physical box, would have any bearing on the reasons for the delay in the USB stick. In fact, I think that AFTER they finished creating the exact files that will be used for USB stick, they needed to do a little extra work to create the CD files for Boxzilla including converting the files to 16/44.1. Disclaimer - I could be wrong about anything and everything above. I don't think so, though. :) Edit: I just noticed that they do actually state above that the files that will be provided on the USB stick will be in FLAC format, not WAV, at 24/96, so the 128GB size of the USB sticks is not a problem. Edit2: Once the USB sticks arrive, could someone post the actual total size of the combined FLAC files and combined MP3 files please?
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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I've experienced that with CD-R's. The new player doesn't have problems when the old player does. I think that newer players are better at getting the data through a defect. There is an import setting in iTunes that does something like read the data around a defect repeatedly to figure it out. I always have that box checked when importing CDs.
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I've had that before with older players as well, but as you said, sounds like there is still something specific to the disc that it cannot read while newer ones can..better error tracking, or whatever. Given that and the fact that the rest of the box played fine on it, I'd still proceed with contacting Mary or Rhino for a replacement. Doesn't mean you can't also get a new player...just to be *sure. :D I got to do some listening today, finished the 1988 Trip this morning, and this afternoon have had a replay of the 1976 show. Unfortunately took a nap for a decent chunk of the first set, so need to relisten there. But really enjoying the Playin' and on sequence for this second time through.
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Yeah the USB sounds great now but I had to plug it in different places over 13 times before it got recognized. I'm afraid to unplug it maybe won't work again.
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Our family just got together for Christmas present exchange - I made out big. I got a subscription to 2016 Dave's Picks and the 30 Trips Around the Sun 80 CD Box. Does anyone have any favorite CD's from the big box? Also - what do I do on the off chance that one of the CD's is bad?
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Numb. All the nightmares came today And it looks as though they're here to stay p,k
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....and godspeed Mr. Bowie....cut my teeth on your videos during the 80's MTV revolution. Is there Life On Mars? I guess you know now. It's a sad Sunday evening....little China Girl....
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I never got to see David Bowie in concert, but when tickets went on sale for the Grateful Dead at Tinley Park, my buddy and I drove to Chicago to purchase them for what ended up being Brent's last shows. After scoring our tickets we drove to the still brand new World Amphitheatre in Tinley Park to check out the venue. The parking lot was wide open so we entered, parked, then walked up to the open entrance. They just so happen to be setting up for a David Bowie show that morning. They had a giant magic "Mirror On The Wall" shaped video screen above the stage for what looked like a fancy production. We never attended the Bowie show, but with Dead tickets in hand, drove back to Michigan after a full day of road "tripping" to attend a Steve Miller concert that evening. 1990 was a fun yet interesting year with big ups and major downs. RIP David Bowie
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So weird, we were just coming home from dinner Saturday night and played most of Hunky Dory, laughing because we both still knew all the words. We saw Bowie during the Glass Spider tour, it was good but we also were a little disappointed. We got tickets to 3 shows in NYC and Philly. Had high hopes, but all 3 shows were exactly the same. He didn't perform music, he put on a "show". Right down to the number of bows he took. But if he NEVER did more than Ziggy Stardust and Hunky Dory, he did enough! "Time takes a cigarette and puts it in your mouth....." RIP David.
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I regularly watch the Ziggy Stardust DVD. Mick Ronson is way underated as a guitar player.I saw Bowie in '87 and '91/92. Peter Frampton played guitar on the '87 tour so that was an added bonus. SpaceBro I also drove to Chicago to buy Tinley Park tix and then saw Steve Miller that night. Val-Du-Lakes!!! Does that place stil exist?
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Always a fan, not a huge fan but a fan. Yesterday I decided to go to the $2 picture show. I had not seen THE MARTIAN. It has "Starman" by David Bowie as part of the score. Found out later that he had passed. Life is always full of little coincidences.
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I'm trying to make cd's from the 30 Trip flac files. What is the best process to do so?I decoded disc 1, 1973, from the usb file to a new folder on my pc. When I attempted to create a cd, with Nero, a message popped up saying the files are protected! Que pasa amigos?! I too am stunned about Bowie's death from cancer.
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This venue sat dormant for many years after the '90s. Several years ago they brought a season of concerts back, but has since been dormant again. Too bad, it was a great venue. Saw many great shows there. That Steve Miller show was a fun time. Way too long and vivid of a story to share at this time as I'll be typing for an hour. It was an adventure. One of my favorite shows at Val-Du-Lakes was the '94 HORDE festival with The Allman Brothers and Blues Traveler. Same weekend as Pink Floyd at the Pontiac Silverdome where they played Dark Side of the Moon in it's entirety for the first time since the '70s, plus the Hubble telescope caught images of a comet hitting Jupiter. That weekend was possibly one of the most psychedelic experiences of my life. Those were the days...good times, and another story to share down the road.
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I do not think there will be a long version... Priors: 1. I started listening in '71, got hooked by 2/13/70 DS on cassette in '72, saw first concert in '74, got discouraged by '91. My tape listening has heavily favored '68 to '78. 2. I love exploratory jams, love the baroque compositions, love it when Garcia pushes the energy up ('71 summer!), and love it when Garcia gets 'angular' whether in note selection, note shaping or general mood. 3. What we all love about the "dead' sound is more due to Lesh than anyone else: Garcia's famous quote about "when Lesh is on the whole band is on" (paraphrased) really means--"unless Lesh is on the band is not on". Boxzilla Opinions (based on one chronological run-through): 1. This is a gorgeous well-selected box to represent the band throughout its history. Thank you to all involved from players, sound, management, to WLegate to DLa and DLe and JNorman, and all the recordists through the years. Thanks to Rhino! Thanks to all--wonderful! 2. We easily slip into describing eras of Dead by the keyboardists, and each keyboardist essentially does coincide with changes to the band's overall sound. I expect the truth is the keyboardists fit into Garcia and Lesh's desired sound, so to lay the blame on the keyboardists for an era that does not strike you is not fair. This box shows Godcheaux, Midland, and Welnick were all superb players. Welnick's work surprised me--his piano was especially good. I have often felt Brent was carrying/leading the band's energy. I say, leave the keyboardists alone--they were all accomplished and added significantly to the music. 3. Quick hits: '86 weakest, '79-'83 weak stretch (Lesh not recorded well? Lesh not playing well?) '84 and '85 were comebacks to me, with a fabulous Let It Grow on '84 for Garcia, and Lesh really came alive. Surprise--how much I liked '87-'95. '87-'89 even Garcia is into it, for the rest he is less adventurous but is keeping up in a more narrow range (the 'free jazz' DS's excepted--loved '89 DS), and the rest of the band is really playing. I expected '69 to blow me away, but thought the momentum kept being interrupted. Need to listen again. '82 found me wincing at times for Garcia--many songs late or flubbing entry into solos, uncertain where to go, paragraphs turned into a bar or two. '90 -92 somewhat mushy with too many players. Scarlet/Fire's through the years often an exception on the positive side. 4. Really positive about '67, '68, '70, '71, '87, '93, '94. My listening to '72 to '76 was interrupted a lot, so know I need to go back to those. 5. After I finished '95 yesterday, I thought back to listening to hissy cassettes in the '70s, when we all had the daydream the band would release everything with at least 'decent' sound--my fellow tape traders even said we could all go to SF and do our own taping if they would just let us. We are truly in a wonderous time for Dead listening. Please enjoy and cherish it.
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Has anyone got a noise burst at around 7:40 of Schoolgirl?.....on the CD version. Just wondering if it's on the master....don't hear it on the Charlie Miller source.
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I never really got into Bowie except a couple of the rock songs with Mick Ronson playing guitar. My taste ran more toward harder rock and then suddenly all that was supplanted by the GD, so there was no room for Ziggy. In the past year I've gravitated toward some of his early work, and recently sat with the current MOJO mag propped up at a restaurant table as if Bowie was joining us for dinner. Then, we played some of his first album yesterday in the car for no apparent reason. Now he's gone. The big rock stars are dropping fast. I shudder to imagine who we will lose this year. I know people have to die, so I need to get a grip. My heroes are generally about 10-15 years older than I am. It's fantastic that they leave behind bodies of work that have no expiration date.
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I saw both of those Floyd shows at the Silverdome. Yes, second night, second set was a complete DSOTM. The whole show was the same as what is on the Pulse DVD. I was on the floor both nights, had a great time..... I also saw at the Silverdome: Bowie 87, The Who 89 (about a week or so after GD at Alpine Valley), Rolling Stones 89 (The Stones were good but The Who was waaaaay better!!! They always have been!). I wanted GD to play the Silverdome. Don't know why they didn't, maybe rent was too high? Easier in/out and parking than Soldier Field and a roof in case it rains/snows (could have played it in fall or spring too).
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The Ziggy Stardust DVD has lots of Mick Ronson, 'Width of a Circle' is a treat.Just checked Amazon, there's some price gouging going on for the DVD. Wait for the price to drop, then pick it up, it's worth it. I wish there were more Ziggy live recordings available.
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I was lucky enough to see him once.The Sound & Vision tour,don't remember the year.Adrian Belew was on guitar with him which was a great surprise.. bummer Edit:1990-05-09 Dean Smith Center-Chapel Hill,N.C. Good 'ole Wikipedia still a bummer though
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With 16 bit FLAC, there are free downloadable decoders (I use FLAC Frontend) to decode to WAV. However, the FLAC files in Boxilla are 24 bit, I believe. Therefore, an extra step must be used to convert the 24 bit to 16 bit FLAC, prior to decoding to WAV. I believe there are free programs to do this as well, but you would have to do some searching. Edit/update: I found this: http://www.bigasoft.com/articles/24bit-16bit-flac.html I would look for some reviews of the program before installing, but something like this is what you are looking for.
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Dave's got a new video up on the subscription page.:)
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Saw Bowie twice - once at Sullivan Stadium for the Serious Moonlight tour in 1983. It rained all day and seemed to have stopped just as he walked out on stage (unlike Dead at RFK in 1990 where it seemed like it rained only when the Dead played, but I digress). I remember WBCN, Boston Radio Station, had devoted the entire day to playing Bowie A to Z, filled up a bunch of Maxells before I had to head to meet up with my friends to go to the show. My last tape reached the H's and ended on one of my all time favorite Bowie tunes (Heroes). I saw him again with Nine Inch Nails where he was the headliner but everybody was there for NIN. Liked both bands and liked the show, but only recognized a couple of songs which I seem to recall were from his dark period (Eno Fripp period in Berlin). Cool transition from NIN to Bowie. I would say that the Serious Moonlight tour was a better show.
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I can imagine the one show I saw was on the serious Moonlight tour. It was end of May, 1983, at the Glen Helen Regional Park in San Bernadino, CA, for one of the four days of The Us Festival. The day Bowie performed included sets by Berlin, Quarterflash, Missing Persons, Joe Walsh, The Pretenders, Stevie Nicks and U2. I'd like to expand on more details, but it was over 32 years ago and I wasn't but four years out of high school. We are both great fans, in this household, and are taking this similar to how I handled John Lennon being shot in NYC. Had just downloaded Blackstar the night before.
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just so you know. those are NOT coincidences.
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Okay... forgive me for asking this, but it's eating me alive. I was out of the GD for a few years, and missed several of the last Dick's Picks and all of the Road Trips Series when they were initially released. I'm now piecing my collection of what I missed together, slowly but surely, and I've made quite a dent. Can someone tell me.... Why in bloody hell is the RT Vol, #3 so outrageously priced on the secondary market when compared to other Road Trips releases?? I'm assuming it still had the same number of units produced, so there wouldn't be a scarcity issue. And I do realize it's a show from the Fillmore East in 1970, so I've already assumed that it's sonic gold. But why such an extreme difference in price?? I'm hoping that there's a logical explanation for this of which I'm completely unaware.
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It's the crown jewel of the Road Trip series.
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I was just responding when I read the fine response by mhammond. I would add, because it's really flipping good and the one that deep down inside you want the most. It has my absolute favorite acoustic GD I have in my collection (other than studio). No rotten tomato's from the Reckoning lovers out there.. but this one really speaks to me. Voice from On High and Cold Jordan sound sooooo gooood. I'm fairly sure this is the version of Cold Jordan that appears on Festival Express.
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It was the first 3 CD Road Trip and had a 4th bonus disk. It still isn't both shows complete though, it is missing the Candyman from the late show. Before that the Road Trips were 2 CD releases and the bonus disk made 3.
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For all those interested in Bowie.....check out Beck on youtube performing sound and vision in the round. Just a hair-raising version that let's you know what music is capable of.
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...though just a shorthanded release title, nonetheless reverberates with the same chronological gravitas as "Five Eight" or "Twelve Twenty-Nine"; and even among Heads, who begin musical discussions with a high degree of common understanding, it's difficult to effectively quantify just how remarkable an historical document this is. For me, it's the alchemical combination of (1) acoustic and electric comprising (2) conventional setlist components - played in uniformly extraordinary fashion - mixing fluidly with the truly exotic that (3) are performed in a unique crucible where emerging interest in folk and country melded with the tailings of acidic exploration, giving rise to shows that could organically - and plausibly (!) - accommodate wildly diverse fauna from the stark, lilting beauty of Long, Black Limousine and Silver Thread to a roaring, 60-minute, F5, electric tornado of DS>St.S>NFA>Lovelight. Anyway, have a listen with evening tea, if you've not already... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxmCyo4jldzXzS_x-CpbY_s-ZSmjiRtbB KY: Are you looking for the 3cd set or are you determined to obtain the bonus disc? (which I would if I could, but never will at current rates, or anything like them) /peace, K
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....the second disc is platinum Dead. I don't have the bonus, but I'm not complaining. Awesome sounding '70 Dead is hard to come by, and I feel blessed to have it....don't hate me, but I paid $40 for it four years ago....hit the lottery early.
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Ultimately, I'm looking for the entirety, bonus disc included. However, I'd settle for just the 3-disc package. I have to say... I love reading your posts for the sheer enjoyment I find in your use of the English language. I'm confident that you're not really FROM eastern Kentucky. And if you are, you should really consider a future position as an English teacher!
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......I see we're both transplants to the only state dumb enough to elect Rand's special brand of stillborn intellect, though I'm a bit farther east in origin from PA (Boston) and, now, a veritable light year culturally from Louisville (the eastern mountain coalfields). I used to live in the Highlands near (what used to be) the remarkably bohemian scene along Bardstown Road...sadly, money has blighted the area in pursuit of an authentic bourgeois experience (think: cut open the ball to discover it's bounce). A fellow attorney as well; I believe I actually met C.W.H.Jr. when I was young and tagging at my father's side during some civic event back in the early 90s. Anyway, glad you found us!/peace, K
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Save us from the political attacks. Kate.
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My two hundredths of one dollar say that I come here to avoid all politics if possible. Kate is so forgivable that I forgive her. I won't even mention that I am glad to hear she is swinging for the "right" (not the Right) team. Oh, what a time to observe this disaster from afar. Now, back to 30 Trips 1971. It's treating me well although the 1970 show is at the absolute top of my faves from the big box, as I listen chronologically. At this rate it's gonna take me a year, and that's fine. Commuter listening has been taken up with the 18 CD 65-66 Dylan box and a latent dive into all things Velvet Underground. (I recommend the complete 1969 Matrix club recordings, recently released.)
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After listening to all of the shows several times now, '70 has emerged as my early fave. Disc 2 is pure jamming bliss! This is what music is all about Rock on
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or "the one that got away" as I like to call it. I was a little too late to the Dave Lemieux party (had no idea all this stuff was being released until a couple years ago) to get my hands on RT 3.3 at any kind of reasonable price. I remember this one well though, the "Now now kids, don't fight" right before Silver Threads and Golden Needles, evokes a distant memory of a well-worn cassette from 30 years ago. If only I had won powerball, RT 3.3 would be mine.
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@dantian I'm not sure if you already have the music and just want the physical release, but I would be happy to get you the music if you're interested.
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And 1967 still takes the cake for me, with 1968 and 1973 as wonderful but distant seconds. I just finished the AMAZING third disc from 1973! It's all good, but 1971 and 1972 didn't do much for me, but then again, we already had a lot of GREAT 1972 already, and early 1971 usually doesn't do much for me. On to Dijon! UPDATE: Halfway through disc one of 1974, and I'm slack-jawed at the sound and performance. Yee-haw!!
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Easy Doc, easy does it, eeeaassy does it - I'll take care of this. Uh, Brew - did you say early '71 doesn't do it for you? I mean, we all love Keith, I get that - so of course early '71 seems a little off - but don't you love yourself some early '71 Pigpen on the organ (check out the Wharf Rat on 30 Trips '71); or you must love yourself some February Port Chester or April Fillmore East (last Alligator / best Jam, no? - not the best UJB ever? ok maybe 2nd best?). You know, I get where you're coming from - one time I wasn't into early '71 and came to found the right speaker wire somehow got unplugged - did you check all your physical connections? Or maybe the EQ is off a little bit - one time that happened to me, where I had the mid-range turned way down after listening to some '74, then whoa, I put on Three From The Vault and couldn't hear any of the vocals. Check some of that stuff out and give it another spin, see how things are then. I mean the set list on 30 Trips '71 is crazy mofo good - we're talking Playing, Truckin', Casey, Sugar Mag, Uncle John's, etc, etc.
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I was talking about the release, I do have the music already. I appreciate the offer though.
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I'm hoping that Forensic Doc doesn't read my post! :) I'll keep trying, but mid-1969 through 10/19/71 isn't my sweet spot . . .
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Have you guys tried Discogs? I've scored some rare Dead there for a comparatively reasonable price (at least compared to e-bay/amazon) for some RT and rarer Dead. You'll have to put it on a wishlist and wait, most likely. And beware as some sellers aren't familiar with the bonus disc/non bonus disc in the titles, but if you ask you'll get a response. But for my money, RT 3.3 is the best 1970 release out there. Way better than DP8 or DP4, even. Yes, missing the Candyman from the 2nd show, but still, really strong. Amazing sounding. Only other RT that comes close is Denver + the 2011 subscription disc (also a 3+1 situation).
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as one who has actually physically been in the Jordan river in this lifetime. I can tell you, though it might sometimes be a bit chilly, I can honestly say that it is neither deep nor wide...little more than what we here in the USA might call a "creek" in some places, in fact. That cold spring in the Golan Heights, on the other hand, was so damned cold it stole my breath away and almost gave me a freakin' heart attack...in the arms of a statuesque blond (my girlfriend's older sister!) who almost drowned me with her spontaneous hugs in the frigid waters. Ahhh...memories. Great song, though, "Cold Jordan."
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Great story, Dantian. ..but the mighty Jordan was likely mightier a couple hundred (or a thousand) years ago before developments and cities got big over there. I'm sure the time of the year matters too. The mighty Colorado doesn't even make it to the Gulf of California in Mexico anymore.. Most of it flows to Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Phoenix now. VGuy alone is rumored to have several dozen swimming pools and a Bengal tiger. Anyway.. great song and great to see Road Trips 3.3 get some love. Great release and furthers my desire to organize a coups d'état and take back the vault. If there is any decent 1970 left in the vault it needs to be heard. Brother wjon should be just about finished with the tunnel he is building in Burbank. We still need some fast, nimble heavy machinery to pull this off. I am meeting the Sean Penn next week, he should be able to help. ________________________________ Edit: From Wikipedia "In modern times, the (Jordan) waters are 70% to 90% used for human purposes and the flow is greatly reduced. In 1964, Israel began operating a pumping station that diverts water from the Sea of Galilee to the National Water Carrier. Also in 1964, Jordan constructed a channel that diverted water from the Yarmouk River, another main tributary of the Jordan River to the East Ghor Canal. Syria has also built reservoirs that catch the Yarmouk's waters. Environmentalists blame Israel, Jordan and Syria for extensive damage to the Jordan River ecosystem. The flow rate of the Jordan River once was 1.3 billion cubic metres per year; as of 2010, just 20 to 30 million cubic metres per year flow into the Dead Sea." Desert dwellers love water. Environmentalists blame Israel, Jordan and Syria. I blame Bolo.
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....no swimming pools or tigers in my backyard, but I do have a couple of goldfish!! Namely Mickey & Bill. Does that count? ....on a more depressing note, my lovely Nevadan legislation recently slapped the solar industry here with a 40% tax hike, basically shutting them down. Looks like NVEnergy gets to keep that monopoly. Thousands of jobs lost between two huge solar companies here. Also effects home owners that went solar on their roofs to save money and the environment. And get this. The hike is retroactive. Ahhhh....the American Dream. Hard to get that these days it seems....
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I must have confused you with my other Vegas friend. ..but what you say? That news of energy legislation shenanigans makes my brain hurt.
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The water is being procured for our new Deadhead settlement, Dito Mancante, which is a lovely island oasis located near the heel of Italy's boot. I purchased the island with the leftover proceeds from the never-realized "Terrapin Station" complex that we all paid for. Since water will soon be worth more than crude oil, I have hired General Lyuben Gocev and his Bulgarian mafia to protect our shipments from the Jordan. He will also serve as Director of Lawn Games at our new home.
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Just my opinion:Background info: i saw all my shows in the eighties and nineties, but my favorite years for listenig are 69 to 78 . 67,68,69 and 70 from the box are mind blowing!!! 71, I found to be very average.....sick caution jam yes, but the preceding gdtrfb and nfa away were not that good especially when compared to others from that year. 72,73,74 and 75 , all very good shows 76 didnt do it for me. 77,78,79 and 80 all very nice shows. 81,82,83,84 and85 are all good shows but the sound quality takes away from the enjoyment, especially 81 as the sound limps out of my speakers, crawls across the floor and then hides under the couch before it gets tome. I dont want anymore 80s shows if this is how its going to sound. 86 boo. 87 love that second set. 88 ok. I was there, Dave picked the wrong night. 89 didnt do mUch for me. 90 liked it 91 probably in the minority, but this and nassauwith Branford dont exite me. The rest were fair, with 94 at the top of those. Thanks to Dave and Rhinofor all the release. PLEASE RELEASE THE ARK 69 as a nice tidy little box set!
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I'm in. When can I get started on the vineyard?
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