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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • MinasMorgul
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    Ice cream cone kid, I have to disagree about David Lee Roth - the man can't sing anymore. He no longer seems to have the ability to carry a tune in concert. The last show I saw was embarrassing - they seem to know there is a problem. He gets up there, huffing and puffing, and blurts out the lyrics in this choppy, tiresome monotone with no rhythm or melody whatsoever. The rest of the band sounds great, and it's those backing vocals that keep the shows from being a complete train wreck. I was so disappointed, and I'm not alone. I gave him a few chances since they're reunion, but to no avail - he wasn't just having "off" nights. Here are the reviews from ticketmaster's site, in order, over the course of several shows. Everyone gave them a 1 out of 5, and everyone cited Deteriorated Dave as the weak link. Really, don't waste your money. It's a shame, these guys used to be great, but it really demonstrates what an anomaly Dave was. 1 / 5 van halen sucked Hollywood Bowl - Hollywood, CA - Fri, Oct 2, 2015 eddie superb everyone else was tired and uninspired i've seen van halen, yes, steely dan and toto in the last five months i'm a 58 year old gtr playing 40 year member of LA musicians union TOTO was far and away the best of the four oh well 1 / 5 HORRIBLE! Disappointed big time! Hollywood Bowl - Hollywood, CA - Fri, Oct 2, 2015Posted 10/05/2015by TagBert David Roth ruined the show. He sounded awful-talked through the lyrics instead of singing. He made up/replaced words in songs and his voice is gone! He made the concert all about him, and not the music. If it were not for the band, and back up singing, you would not have recognized any of the songs. Was soooo disappointed. Favorite moment: When it was over. 1 / 5 Van Halen Ak-Chin Pavilion - Phoenix, AZ - Mon, Sep 28, 2015Posted 10/01/2015by WLDHRTBKR Band sounded great, but Dave was pathetic!!! Would have been a much better show if Van Halen had opened up for Kenny Wayne Sheppard....now there's some talent!! 1 / 5 DLR was so far off, it made it unbearable. Gexa Energy Pavilion - Dallas, TX - Wed, Sep 23, 2015Posted 09/27/2015by HijoDelSol1 If you want to hear all your favorite Van Halen songs, I would suggest loading up your MP3 player and hitting play. David Lee Roth was so far off from the rest of the band that it painful. The rest of the band sounded great, would have rather had them run in a tribute band singer then to listen to that. Favorite moment: Guitar Solo 1 / 5 Diamond Dave is Done Oak Mountain Amphitheater - Pelham, AL - 09/17/2015Posted 09/23/2015by LeeTB I cringed the whole way through the Van Halen show. Seriously, if you know anything about vocals, music, singing in key, singing at all, you would have no other choice but to agree that David Lee Roth is done. Sure, he still can entertain the crowd with his antics, but when you don't sing 80% of the lyrics, and the lyrics you do sing are our of key, just hang it up. If they had just advertised it as an instrumental show, featuring the rest of the band, it would have been 100% better. Don't be fooled. Unless you're just going to see Eddie, or the Kenny Wayne Shepherd band is opening, you WILL be disappointed. Favorite moment: Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band set - great gig!!!! Saved the night - seeing Eddie for the 2nd time live. 1 / 5 Kenny Wayne OK but VH sucked. Bethel Woods Center for the Arts - Bethel, NY - Sun, Sep 6, 2015Posted 09/22/2015by PMW1960 Kenny Wayne Shepard was sounding great but only played 35 minutes. WTF, he could have played an hour or so. VH was terrible. The band sounded OK but the vocals and backup singing was terrible. The volume on the vocals was turned down so it was hard to hear David but that was probably a good thing. Favorite moment: The end. Opening act(s): KWS band. Good but way to short. 1 / 5 DLR stole my money Oak Mountain Amphitheatre - Birmingham, AL - Thu, Sep 17, 2015 Posted 09/21/2015by jbix613 David lee Roth needs to quit today! He talked thru most lyrics. When he did try he couldn't hit the high notes at all. He even tried to do 15 minutes of terrible stand up.This is the first concert I ever left early and I wasn't alone, I was joined with hundreds. 1 / 5 Van Halen / David Lee Roth MIDFLORIDA Credit Union Amphitheatre at the FL State Fairgrounds - Tampa, FL - Sun, Sep 13, 2015Posted 09/16/2015by notoriousscottyb I've been to see other older bands with not much expectations of a great show . I was not disappointed. That being said ... As you would think it was mostly the Dave show. His voice, key and timing are way off. It would seem as though they didn't rehearse. I really expected more from a Van Halen Show. Eddie Is usually full of energy and excited to please the crowd but not this show. I'm extremely sorry I spend the eighty bucks per ticket. It was a twenty dollar show at best. I was NOT alone walking out at ten thirty. I couldn't withstand any more of the abuse of Van Halen music. Favorite moment: Leaving early..Priceless 1 / 5 Very Disapointed PNC - Charlotte, NC - 09/11/2015Posted 09/15/2015by ChrisDaddy This was the fourth time I have seen Van Halen in my lifetime, and I realize they have gotten older as I have. I have adjusted my expectations accordingly. Eddie and family were spot on, but DLR was all over the place. I know you get some variation with live music, but he was constantly off on the lyrics, out of sync wih the band, and did a lot of just plain odd movements on stage. It sounded terrible and he was difficult to watch. As much as I love Van Halen, DLR is done..... Favorite moment: Eddie's solo 1 / 5 See Van Halen in a corner Bar SOON !!!! PNC Music Pavilion - Charlotte, NC - Fri, Sep 11, 2015Posted 09/14/2015by Furiousnight The worst Van Halen show I have ever been too. And I have been to at least 15 of Van Halen shows. Davids voice is gone. He acted to crazy and talked to much. He even stopped the middle of songs and talked. Does David have dementia. I think Wolfgang has a better voice then David. Favorite moment: Eddies guitar solo 1 / 5 VAN HALEN PNC Music Pavilion - Charlotte, NC - Fri, Sep 11, 2015Posted 09/14/2015by Anonymous I HAVE BEEN A VAN HALEN FAN SINCE 1977, SEEN THEM MANY TIMES . LOVE D THEM WITH DAVE AND SAMMY. THIS WAS ONE OF THE WORST SHOWS I'VE EVER SEEN. DIAMOND DAVE CAN NOT SING , COULD NOT SING. A ENTIRE SONG, NOT THAT I WANTED TO HEAR THAT VOICE .MAYBE SHOULD TRY OUT FOR DANCING WITH THE HAS BEENS. Favorite moment: WHEN I LEFT HALF WAY THREW SHOW 1 / 5 Tour experience is a waste! Walnut Creek Amphitheatre - Raleigh, NC - Wed, Sep 9, 2015Posted 09/14/2015by Skieder We got to the sound check about 15 minutes after the time listed in the email. The check-in took long and our "escort" (a young girl) took forever to greet us at the gate. It wasn't until I questioned the check-in person how long the sound check lasted that they had a sense of urgency about actually letting us in. We had to walk all the way around the park (5 minutes at least) and got to the stage just as the band finished up. There was no exception made at all. We were not compensated whatsoever. After the sound check ended, a person who said she was in charge of the group told us where to hang out and what was available (drinks, food and t-shirt stand). We sat around for nearly 3 hours because we weren't allowed to leave the park, waiting for the opening act. For the amount of money I paid they could have done a little more. I will never purchase this product again...COMPLETE WASTE of MONEY! Favorite moment: Good seats 1 / 5 Total Disappointment Bethel Woods Center for the Arts - Bethel, NY - Sun, Sep 6, 2015Posted 09/10/2015by EMAS My husband had wanted to see Van Halen for years. He was looking very forward to this show, particularly at Bethel Woods, which is an awesome venue. This show was a complete disappointment. The opener, Kenny Wayne Shepard, was good. When VH took the stage the crowd was excited but then it ended. David Lee Roth really can't sing any longer. He was out of sync with the band, off key, off pitch - overall not good. The band didn't seem together either. The sound was too loud, the guitar overrode everything else, they just didn't seem like a professional band. We have seen bar bands that were better. It sounded like bad karaoke. When we decided to leave early - we have never left a concert early ever before - many others were streaming out as well. All were saying the same thing. This was painful! Favorite moment: The decision to leave the concert.
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    3.28.69 - Student Center, Modesto Jr. College 7.7.69 - PIGPEN !!!!! I say please Mamma turn on your light.. "Some of your love some of your light... "That's All you folks need now, just a little light, thats all you folks need, a little more love, yes you do, I ask my baby let it shine on me...
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    pig was a biker first, then a singer and then a harp player then an organist, oh wait, but foremost he was a man, who liked sex, good thing, without it, no human race. David lee was a promoter, a rocker, a singer and a front man, who liked sex, good thing.... Alvin lee was a rocker, a guitarist and a great guy, way underappreciated and his contributions to ten years after will never be equaled, no one was a fast as him except maybe darma buck who is the lead guitarist for blue oyster cult, now that is one fast fingering. Most girls I know like fast fingering. Shake your money maker.
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    9/19/70-I don't know about the Lovelight, but its got an incredible Dark Star on it. Horses for courses. Its music like that that has always made me ignore the advice of people like that angry jackstraw bloke, to stop listening to The Dead.
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    I agree, that Lovelight played on 5/24/72 is one of my favourite versions. At the 12 minute mark, it doesn't overstay its welcome, either. I think there was a tendency towards excess in rock music around that time. If anyone had any particular talent, they seemed to overdo do it. Pigpen was a great vocalist-he wasn't a poet. Ginger Baker was a great drummer with Cream...but his 16 minute+ solo on The Wheels of Fire version of Toad is very hard going. There was a great pop/rock band in England in the early 1970s called T.Rex-I don't know if they were well known in America. Anyway, they made great singles. But live they were a disaster. I saw them in 1972, and they played long versions of their songs, totally destroying the impact they could have had if they had been a bit more concise.Sometimes, of course, a bands strength lay in its ability to jam. On most of their songs, this applies to The Dead. A 15 minute version of Dark Star from 1971 always seems too short to me. They could be concise to good effect, too, though. I have just finished listening to the 7/5/78 show from the box set. The encore of Promised land is as good a version of a Chuck Berry song as I think I have ever heard. Its only 4 mins 13 secs long, but nothing more needs to be said.
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    Go see VH if they tour again. Last September when I saw them they were great.For anyone who is a so-so fan or is not familiar, go if you get the chance. They are getting older, but toured last year. Eddie is an amazing guitarist, you need to witness it live. Dave is the ultimate show man. The whole band rocks. Also, look up on YouTube Van Halen "Live At Largo", another good show.
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    and all the raps he brings with him! maybe we could get a release of, i think it's 9/19/70, i could be wrong about that, but it's a particularly hot show where they storm through lovelight (as if they ever did a version that era where they didn't), and where the rap gets to the point where bobby steps up to the mic to inquire: "Pigpen, did you just say fuck?" if not that show, i hear the ones from the ARK in Boston in 4/21-23/69 are pretty good - ahem, uh dave, next box set, sure, why not? Thanks. I've also heard done tell from a few of the folks that the NYE show from '69, also in beantown, is quite bad-ass, with one hell of an Alligator jam to it's name. everyone, well except for that one guy (who is entitled to his opinion, and the right to express it freely), would be quite happy with many more pig heavy releases.
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    Nice icecrmcnkd....
    ....now THAT video brings me back. Halen put on a fantastic show....saw them once. Alas, not with Roth. 5150 Tour....that, alas again, was during my transition to the Dead. Metal/Hard Rock took a back seat for a decade or so.....
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    Your VH introduction: https://youtu.be/frwlZswvS5I Watch the whole thing. It's a 3-day weekend, you've got the time.
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    I missed the Van Halen days, other than Jump as a basketball warm-up.. (that was at some tournament, at home of course we ran out to Jesus Christ Superstar intro > Rock You Like A Hurricane orchestral version > Still Fly by the Big Tymers. Huh..no wonder I like the Dead's incongruent weirdness..) Anyways, don't know much Van Halen, but in on the Blondie! Only know the hits I suppose, but my favorite is Heart of Glass. But One Way or Another, Rapture, Call Me, Atomic...all great. Love that Rapture video. Sometimes I just go around downtown like that dude. Then I heard boom from the amplifiers.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Wow, your tales. Wow. You are one step removed; a wealth of experience. Thank you for your sharing. You know, as I was reading your account of meeting Jerry and discussing the dragon statue, I realized I had seen a picture of it before and heard this story. It's very cool to get the firsthand account here. Love to see fans among fans, we are indeed everywhere. This board brings out some really great stuff and I'm appreciative of that. As well as all of the amazing music that never seems to stop flowing. Sixtus
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Woohoo! Finally my only attended birthday show is released. 7/8/78. Been waiting a while for this despite the numerous fabulous existing copies. Thanks guys!
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Thanks for sharing such a cool story. I can only imagine talking to Jerry. Your a very fortunate to have connected like that. Peace.
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If they're already releasing 7/8 as a stand alone is it possible that eventually these will all be sold as individual shows? Maybe I'm missing it but I don't see anything about these never being available in CD format again. I don't really care about them being sold again as I'll likely die with this box and the rest of my Dead collection. I have no intentions of re-sale. It would just really suck to someday get the next DaP of my subscription to find it's a show I already have in this box. It's not really that far fetched to hear them saying how great the Omaha show was in this box and so many people missed out and have been asking for it that they released it as DaP 25.
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Yeah, isn't that crazy? I had copied the songs from the set list above and put them in a notepad document with the intention of sorting in an Excel sheet, but I had to strip away all of the extraneous data first (the names of the shows, the CD #s, etc, as I see you also had to do). After I pared it down to just the song names, I was able to import the txt file into one column of an Excel sheet and sort it. Then I copied it and went to post it and saw yours and thought we have too much time on our hands. I can't wait for May. 2 shows from June '76, 5 shows from July '78. What else could I ask for? Ok Full Norman and a cup of coffee. I'm listening to a decent board of 12-15-72. Just about anything from 1972 with Dark Star has my vote for release, but this one has an incredible Jam between Truckin' and Dark Star, and then it goes into Morning Dew. My only complaint with Lemeuix, Rhino, and Dead.net, is that they're not releasing material fast enough. I want it all. Well, the 70s stuff at least. I have a sinfully narrow music collection, and a penchant for repetition.
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SpaceBro I feel your pain. You've been polite with wanting more diversity and your stories about 80's shows are awesome. I hope this boxset gives you something special for DP's 19 and 20.Fox, you tend to show up to cause trouble with stupidity. My suggestion is to crawl back into your hole. I feel sorry for the 80's to 95 group. I really do and thank you for letting me keep the the spring of 90 box and still be able to get the 30 trips box. Those shows by themselves were not worth what you paid for because 30 trips is really priceless. Sorry but sacrifices had to be made. So yes I Ebay and I also contribute to the second hand market. If you don't like it don't buy it. This is a cock tease for whats to come for some of us and I'm ready for a slow fucking from these tapes so let us get off instead of talking about years for a minute.
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I am often critical of dead.net/rhino, but for this release I have to give credit where credit is due - great selection, good price (easier to get the wife's approval), limited- but there is a large amount available, and an individual stand alone show from the run is also being released for those who just want from what I hear the most popular show. I can only hope that this is a new standard, and for this price I would be willing to purchase another box later in the year. The Nashville show also helped sell this for me. Its interesting to think of the uniqueness of shows that follow a prime year- there is an interesting unknown quality that I think is a good change up. I'm thinking of '71, '73, '75-76, and '78. Looking forward to this release- thanks again dead.net/rhino.
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Man, that was a wonderful story, man! One day, your children will appreciate the stories you have. Peace. Johnny
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Is the cream of the crop from the bunch, however I do love the 80's and Red Rocks. 2nd set of 6.14.84 killer ! For mid eighties Bring on a Ventura from July 1984 and add the Greek for good measures. Now that Red Rocks78 is on the way the 2nd set from 7.13.84 needs to be revisited. That one oozes legends. BCT84 run is also of some of the highest quality Stand alone from 84 is for sure to 6.27.84 Merriweather :) But if they could muster up the tape of 4.29.84 I would be in line for that as well. 6.30.84 also has a lot of Aces served up. I would love to see a 1984 set
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1978 was a pretty good year won't say their last great year but a great year...I used to have the july 4th show on cassette but just tossed all my cassettes when CDs and CDRs got big...as there's 35 dicks picks, not sure how many road trip, dave's picks is up to 17 or 18 as we speak...then there's all the rhino releases and of course the numerous box sets so a lot of live grateful dead to listen to...this one is exciting because it's one we weren't expecting and I love the set list of the songs performed...for me this is a no brainer to get and am truly excited about receiving this in may sometime...you know there's going to be a Christmas time release which is September? Am I right in thinking that? I do know they did have spring releases but not sure if they followed that up with another box set in the fall...I don't think they'll ever have another 30 trips box set again...i'd truly go broke if that was an every year type deal but being addicted to this music i'd probably be in...but you know someday this will run out but it's not to say i'm bored because i'm not I listen to all the stuff I bought from them i'd easily say I listen to the Grateful Dead the most.
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....no Cumberland. Joking of course. Cumberland was in hibernation mode at this time. I looked through my old tapes (yup, still got 'em). I have the 7.8.78 show, but no others. I'll be popping my first week of July 1978 cherry with this set, and the price is just exactly perfect. Happy camper indeed. Ohh, the surprises that await. Been listening to a lot of '76 and '78 recently. Looks like that trend will continue. Life is good. Ignore the haters. We are blessed that these Betty's are Normanized and released to the flock....
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I've never met anybody. Once walking in NYC with a group, everyone turned around looking and I was like, "what?",,, everybody was that was Dave Winfield. I think that was the name big baseball player in the day. Walked right past him, never saw him. Closest I've ever came to meeting a celeb.
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I'm real excited for this release and pre-ordered immediately. I'm most looking forward to the 7/1 show, I wonder how the country fans reacted to Terrapin. I think this will be the only box set of the year despite the curiously early release date because people are still recovering from the massively expensive (and massively great) year 2015 was. The last digital 30 trips release just barely sold out and in one of Dave's earlier chats this year he said it wouldnt be an overwhelming year box set wise. That being said, I'd be all in for a fall box set....
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A while back I reread some books I have regarding the Dead, and tucked into one book, I found this quote from Jerry "I thought that maybe this idea of transforming principle has something to do with it. Because when we get onstage, what we really want to happen is, we want to be transformed from ordinary players into extraordinary ones, like forces of larger consciousness. And the audience wants to be transformed from whatever ordinary reality they may be, into something a little wider, something that enlarges them. So maybe it's the notion of transformation, seat of the pants shamanism, that has something to do with why the Grateful Dead keeps pulling them in. Maybe that is what keeps the audience coming back for and what keeps it fascinating for us too." So, I still can't recall everything that Jerry and I talked about that February morning almost 4 decades ago, but in a microcosm, it involved that same synergistic effect; I was so excited to talk to him, Jerry became jazzed to talk about art and symbols/mysticism (probably a break for him having to talk about the Dead & music, etc.), and while sharing our conversation, our interaction took on its own power. It took on it's own moment. I think that is what it was like when we joined with the Dead at those shows, their pouring out this unfathomable energy in that moment. And us in the audience rising in response with our collective surge pushing energy back to the Dead, which then propelled them to greater heights of aural adventure. Maybe I am just rambling on,.. but you know that the Grateful Dead did often get that 'dragon' off the ground, and into flight, with us all then levitating in the Dead's tow/draft. We were part that remarkable mixture of music + magic + visuals + adventure = alchemy. Then as we would watch/listen, with our mouths agape, as each of the Dead would tease, the improvisation, their 'call and response', Jerry's cascading leads ('catch me if you can'), Bobby's shimmering rhythm guitar, Phil's bass runs/bombs (that changed the very atmospheric pressure), Keith's keyboard interplay, Billy and Mickey's primal percussion then mutating into complex and compelling syncopation, urging and propelling the band further... and the bard Hunter's lyrics, that poetry, those revelations,...that song...and we would roar and exhort the Dead and pour that fervor into our tribal stomp and collective howl. And suddenly the moment slows and extends and everything becomes quite still, and that voice "nothing you can hold for very long..." .....And then all of us stumble out into that crystalline cool evening. Sad eyes, heads shaking, and smiles which alternated between satiation and longing for more. The truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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....sounds interesting. Cold Rain, BIODTL, Scarlet -> Fire, Dancin -> Drumz. Had to read that twice before I got it....
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I get the complaint about Dave shutting out the 80's/90's (and '66-'68). I share it. But with the Bettys back on board, I'd expect a slew of new '71-'78 stuff. Big tent, legendary type shows. Mickey's last show, the first of the ESP run (2/18/71). Kezar '73. Cornell & Buffalo '77. Summer '76. Fall '73. And Red Rocks '78 belongs in that pantheon. Especially 7/8/78. Point being, a release of 7/8/78 isn't the proper time to complain about the lack of 80's releases. Do that when we have an 'average' show from the '69-'78 era, not a legendary one. Would I like some more '89, '85, '87? Yes. Or even '88/'80? Yes. '66-'68? Yes. Even '91 or '81. ('90 is pretty well represented). But when 7/8/78 comes out, I'm not complaining, I'm celebrating. This is as good as the GD gets.
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Last I checked the count of 60s & 70s vs. 80s & 90s last year was Dead even last year. 30 Trips had 17 shows from the 80s & 90s, while the 60s & 70s had 13 in that set (add the four Dave's Picks from last year and you get 17 from the 60s & 70s). There is no problem, just petulant children. 80s/90s beggars - put your bowls away.
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This is a very exciting box set for several obvious reasons. The legendary Red Rocks show and the implications of lost Betty Boards being returned to the vault. I've never heard any of these July '78 shows, so I'm really into this release. The question will be if I manage to fund a purchase before it's sold out. I definitely agree that a May '77 part 2 would make perfect sense for it's 40th anniversary next year, assuming those tapes can also get or have already been returned. However, I would probably be just as excited to see a 5/9/77 DaP 20 to round off the year. So... whatever. Just keep the hits coming.
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Bold prediction this will sell out after it's been released not sure if a lot alot of people will lay out the $$$ for this set in these hard times...You know they did a lot of 1989 and 1990 releases (a lot of 1990) otherwise they weren't that good although from the 30 tips box set the years they put out shows they were pretty good but I don't think you'll ever see a 1972 release again a whole entire tour..not just a leg...you can't say what will come...I think a lot of us swore we'd see a leg of 1980 shows more spedifically the acoustic/electric sets but my intellect tells me we won't ever see that happen as it would've happened already...unless those tapes haven't surfaced yet maybe someone will clean out their cellar one day and find soundboards...this is a great find this 1978 box set more spedifically the red rocks shows...but we'll see what happens in the future but you can't be unhappy with the progress of releases...we are definitely not hungry for more material but are left wondering what could be next...like the next dave's pick will be...some people already know.
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Looks like a very interesting set. Good time for the band. But I'm still waiting for the REAL DEAL: The box sets of TEXAS '72 and WINTERLAND '74 (Oct.)!
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Morning rockers!!!! Not the biggest 78 fan, but glad to see previously uncirculated shows coming out....... Perhaps the abundance of 1969-1978 reflects more on the quality of the music AND the quality of the recordings combined, than anything else............... April is fast approaching............... Keep it rockin', my friends! Doc
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Oroboros, if Weir was wearing his werewolf get-up for the St. Paul show, but I'm pretty sure Jerry was wearing shorts for the Arrowhead Stadium cooker - an odd image, what?
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But I'm still holding my spork, waiting for a hearty portion of 80's and 90's For starters I will take 8.19.80 1981 - too many to list, but I'll toss a few out, Feb Uptown shows, 7.5.81 and 10.4.81 1982 - wow !!! Some treats hear people, may need a big bowl for this one. 5.23.82 !!!! And if that doesn't fill up the belly then how about 9.14.82 from Charlottesville. And just to make sure the belly is full 10.17.82 and 12.30.82, 1982 may require a nap and bib, lots of drooling 1983 - 4.13.83 some of Vermont's finest 1984 - 6.27.84 and so many more 1985 - November 1985 - lots of good stuff - 11.2.85, 11.5.85 , 11.21.85
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Oroboros, THANK YOU for sharing some amazing stories these past few days and for transporting us all back to those magical times. Your quote from Jerry that I read this morning reveals some of the mystery and wonder behind that magic. The quote can be found in its entirety in the RS Jerry Interview from 10/31/91: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jerry-garcia-the-rolling-stone-i… We're up to our ears in literature on Jerry and the Grateful Dead right now, but other notable Rolling Stone interviews with Jerry include: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/the-rolling-stone-interview-… http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/the-rolling-stone-interview-… http://www.jannswenner.com/archives/jerry_garcia_part1.aspx
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I've only poked this one show you mentioned, but the recording I have is a solid OK. For all the talk about lousy recordings this one sounds good enough for release. I like Brent's keys in "they love each other".
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As previously noted, the curated Dead tribute project now has a release date: May 20. See story below. http://pitchfork.com/news/62163-the-national-announce-grateful-dead-tri… Also, I forget who it was but the talk of Manassas triggered me to check it out and while I've heard a few of those songs from the CSN box, I can't believe I'm just now discovering the rest of that great album (think Rodeo-era Byrds meet CSNY in a dusty San Diego bar near the border and Carlos Santana sits in for most of it). That diversion also led to a rediscovery of Dave Mason and Poco and Weir's Kingfish. Early 70s country cosmic goodness. RE: Bus stop: I got in with studio albums in high school (1990-1992). Saw them in 1993 sadly just once in Atlanta. Wrote Jerry's obit for my college newspaper (Red&Black, Athens, GA) then went on Dead hiatus until about 4 years ago when a warm spring camping trip reignited the flame and have been devouring live recordings ever since (much to the chagrin of my wife). I'll pose a question: Which other American band means as much? I can't think of one that even comes close.
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that is a show that would go into my top ten. The last time I heard it, I was floored with awe.
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9/7/85 would have been a much better RED ROCKS show to release....in fact that whole RED ROCKS 1985 run is better than 1978 IMHO. I also prefer 9/5/85, GREAT SHOW/GREAT SETLIST! There was one responder to SpaceBro(typical basher of anyone who doesn't like only 1969-1978), stating that the Red Rocks 1978 shows were far & away the best Red Rocks shows the band ever played & IT WAS NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION----uhhhhh, NO- I disagree, a lot of fans would have much rather had 1979,1982,1984, and/or 1987 for a RED ROCKS run release of Dead shows.... I can appreciate that there are 3 SBD shows in this 1978 package that are uncirculated, and the enthusiasm for 7/8/78. Jerry certainly seems to have a "jump" in his step for this show in particular.....BUT- 1) we've had enough releases from 1970-1978 to last the next 5 years, for FCKsake move to another decade(1980s) 2) these shows will sound just like the rest of 1978: somewhat sloppy, Jerry out-of-tune, and Donna definitely out of tune to the point of schreeching.....the band really turned the corner in 1979(and got tight again) when Brent joined IMHO. Signed, the Troll
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What I wrote in my response to Spacebrother was that "this is clearly up for debate". Kinda goes directly against your accusation of shutting down discussion. Self-described troll, why do you come here? No one appreciates your input, which is negative and sad. You might as well be writing your comments in a private journal; it would be less embarrassing.
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Still the best story ever.
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July 7th and 8th are awesome, as much as I like Brent era shows, the first two shows at Red Rocks propels those other later year shows into a somewhat mythical status because of what they did there first 80's Red Rocks moment that is killer check out 7.28.82 - He's Gone into Truckin' - specifically the transition after "nothing gonna bring him back" vocal jam out, sweet stuff https://archive.org/details/gd1982-07-28.sbd.browning-feinberg.32707.sb…
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I saw it! Oh, the wonderful world of Youtube. Thanks again for retelling the story of the Dragon and talking to Jerry. Hopefully one of these days you'll get to do some liner notes!
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Wishful thinking, and I do love Jerry, but I'm not deaf - his voice deteriorated in the 80s, and it's just not that easy to listen to him struggle, when you're used to the quality of the 70s. I think you need to listen to more 70s. I'm buying you the box set!
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yes.. Oroboros for President. What could possibly go wrong?
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Maybe you need more Jerry in your diet. The only thing makes this music suck is new people getting on the bus and think they know everything.
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Lots of love for these shows finally getting released. We had heard that the original tapes for the Red Rocks shows were not in the Vault, so that has now been solved. Dave was very clear in his video that others may find there way "home" and he mentioned Cornell at least twice; my guess would be a May '77 II box next year IHO the 40th anniversary of those shows. I am sure the details are complicated .... So this will arrive around the same time as DaP 18 will be released, so these will be in competition with each other, especially since 7/8/78 will be available as a single show. Curious to see how quickly #18 sells out .... And now that the USB version of 30 TATS is sold out, perhaps we will see downloads for those shows become available (although the '77 show is now the RSD release). So much Dead, so little time (and money); an abundance of riches for which we are Grateful.
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but to complain about 7/8/78 (and others) being released instead of 9/7/85 (a show that I like just fine; i get its power) or even 8/13/87 (really, queen?) just doesn't make sense. to me. and yes 80s releases would be welcome. but dude. "not 7/8/78" is a "bruh" moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYl0U0QLoGA
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didn't they play Big River in St. Paul instead of doing it in Kansas City the show before? I'm sure there is a MUCH better 80's show from St. Paul that they did play Big River at that should have been released instead of this one.
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Thanks to everyone for the great vibes, it's like being at a great dead show with all your friends, everyone with mile wide smiles, High fives everywhere, dancing and screaming and laughing and just everyone having a great time. This is close to a top five grateful dead show, definitely top ten and there should not be a complaint anywhere, which is obvious by all the wonderful stories and tales on this thread. Oroboros, your story is just so good and, as the little old lady told Forest Gump sitting on the park bench "you tell it so well". I don't know how you can remember all those details from something that happened almost 40 years ago, I myself can't remember a lot of "those days". I guess meeting and talking to Jerry would stick in your mind forever, it sure would me. Thanks for the memories, it was a great story. I've been sick with the flu and did not even know this was happening till this minute and am so glad I drug my sick butt out of bed and came to this site, I for one will order this set immediately as soon as I can find my cc under all these puffs and medications. I'm not feeling up to par, but now, after reading these notes, feel a lot better. Thanks again deadheads, you guys are the best.
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Against 1970-1971! We need more Pigpen! :)
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Cool write up about these lost tapes. Has anyone considered a Kickstarter-type thing where we all chip in $10 to buy the tapes back from the party who wants money?
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I'm in, just tell me where and to whom should receive my money. I'd even double it to twenty without a thought. What an idea. It could really work.
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From what I recall the guy who bought Betty's unpaid storage locker thinks he won the Powerball! Which means he is asking an exorbitant amount of money. Th GD Org does not want to be ripped-off buying back their own music. The guy with the tapes was really adamant in holding out for every last nickle. That is the long and short of it. Maybe we could stick him up? Or a little B&E? Bill and Ted's Excellent Breaking and Entering? "Hey Dude where's our tapes?!?" Special guest appearances by Cheech and Chong along with Senator Al Franken.
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Dirty Deeds, Done Dirt Cheap.
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I don't ever mean to tell someone what to do, but some friendly advise here for you: Why not sign up at Dead.net for their email notifications? You will never have to check in here to see what is new for sale. The minute they put something new up, you get an email with an ordering link to make it real easy. The funny thing this time was that somebody actually did beat Dead.net to the punch. I found out about this '78 box here and placed my order before I got the Dead.net email. Looking forward to this very much. I myself have never heard any of these shows so I cannot wait until May. I guess very few of us have heard the first 3 shows in the box but the Red Rocks shows have been touted by many here for a long time. It sure is a wonderful time to be a Dead Head! Rock on
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$130! What a ripoff! All GD music should be remastered with copious notes, photos all in deluxe packaging with extra goodies included! And given away for free! Also I should be paid for my posting on this website! Capitalist pigs! If Jerry were still alive....
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I can't think of any other band past or present that have as much music released or being released. On the heels of an 80 CD box set in addition to February's subscription release, we have another box set (only 12 CDs this time - thank God) and yet another subscription release. What other band does this?
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