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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • KeithFan2112
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    What peaked in ’78 – now that’s a worthy discussion. Yeah, ’78 is interesting, isn’t it. The set lists are damn close to ’77, at least until you get to the Fall, with the Shakedown Street material. Well, I guess as a starting point, I’ll go with the songs in the set lists for this here July 1978: The Complete Recordings box set (I love the sound of it, drooling here just talking about it). At least the tracks that I think had some notable moments in 1978: Bertha – kinda sort of peaked, at least as far as post-hiatus performances go. I like it best in 1972, as I do most of those older tunes. Veneta is probably my favorite, and most of the E72 versions are in the same ballpark. Like a lot of songs, it kind of mellowed in the ’74 versions (or at least it sounds mellow in the recordings we now have of it). Post-hiatus though, I like the 1978 versions best, as Jerry started delivering a biting, aggressive solo, and the Wolf’s sharp mid-range tone makes this one a rocker again. So maybe it didn’t “peak” in ’78 per se, but it returned to the forefront as a rocker. The Spring ’77 versions are just ok to me – they seem to be tame compared to what they would become in ’78. DaP 12 (Alright Hamilton!) and DP 10 in late ’77 start to pick up the aggression again, and then DP 18 and DaP 15 (Sleeper of ’78) are hot, as far as official releases, and 1/30 is hot on the soundboards. From Egypt With Love has a decent Bertha. I’d be remiss in my post-hiatus Bertha coverage if I didn’t mention DP 20, which has Keith in “rolling thunder” mode on the piano – love it. Cassidy – this is one of my favorite Bobby tunes, and it seemed to get better every year they played it, culminating in my favorite performance from DaP 7, 4/24/78 (Return To Normal with the Grateful Dead). Other great April versions are 4/10 at the Fox and 4/16 in Huntington, WV. I also enjoy DP 25 and 30 Trips ’78. What makes 1978 great: smooth and tight every time; Jerry’s solos step up from “feeling around” to “command and control”; Keith’s piano accompaniment has largely migrated from rhythmic chords to improvisational melodies (particularly during the Fare Thee Be Well Now arrangement); the outro jam section after FTBWN is smoother, longer and faster, with Jerry leading the charge for several more bars than earlier versions; but here’s where it really kicks ass time and again - Bobby & Donna have mastered the song as a vocal duet by 1978, and their timing and harmony is precise – really just beautiful every time. There are some great ’77 versions as well, but I think ’78 is when they peaked and the song reached its fullest potential. Estimated Prophet – The Jerry solo that takes hold around 3:45 or so and only in 1978 goes on for a minute and forty seconds typically, I think as long as two minutes on one of the soundboards I have. I also like the back-to-basics electric piano sound Keith employs, and the Dick’s Picks 18 mix is my favorite. But the outro jam also goes on and on in ’78, and the song times in at the 12 – 15 range, where it was only ranging from 8 – 11 minutes in ’77. Longer = better in Dead Land. The Music Never Stopped – The jam at 3:45 or so also goes on for two minutes, not so unlike Estimated Prophet. And it’s a great arrangement that they began developing in late ’77, coming to a face melting climax on DaP 7 (Return to Normal with the Grateful Dead) and DP 18. Donna also perfected her delivery of this one to its utmost in 1978. Just listen to her deliver some of these lines like “There’s a band out on the highway” and “Greet the morning air with song” – it’s fantastic, and it got much better with each year. Similar to Cassidy, she and Bobby reach a synchronicity with the co-delivery of the vocals on this one that is better and better with each tour. And then there’s the ending jam to this one, which also reaches its peak in ’78. I enjoy a lot of ’77 versions too, but it’s ’78 where all of this Dead things come together. Franklin’s Tower – what?? WHAT??? Ok, I enjoy the Holy Trinity as much as the next Dead Head, and it’s a damn shame they don’t play it in 1978 – or is it? Take a listen to 4/10/78 out of Stella Blue or 1/30/78 out of Drums. 4/10 is nearly flawless and it goes places that no former version went; 1/30 has an audience patch for just about 30 seconds before the vocals, and there are some missed lines by Jerry, but the music is all balls. Those two clock in at 13:37 and 17:09, so you’re getting your money’s worth. They really rocked this song up a notch in ’78, and while I’ll be the first to admit, this song fell victim to the ’78 sloppies at times, but they really hit the ball out of the park on a few of these, and unfortunately, you wouldn’t know it unless you’re a soundboard collector, as there are no officially release 1978 versions of Franklin’s Tower….until we get our dirty filthy hands on the July 1978 Complete Recordings box set in two months. I have not listened to the Red Rocks version, but I’m praying it’s even better than the couple I mentioned. I admit, it’s a new love affair for me, Franklin’s Tower circa ’78, so it will be interesting to see if I change my mind after revisiting ’76 and ’77. I’m massively disappointed that the new Dave’s Picks shows from ’76 do not have a version, but Red Rocks may quench that fire, we’ll see. Deal – I prefer the one drummer versions, especially the 1972 renditions, so like Bertha, I think the real peak is ’72; but for post-hiatus, ’78 is where Donna goes off the hook, don’t you let that deEEAAL go down style ending. I like it. Terrapin Station – I’m not sure. There are some extended passages in the Closing of Winterland version that I really like, but I don’t have enough ’78 Terrapin yet. We’ll say “possibly peaked in ‘78” on this one, and revisit after the box release. The ’77 versions are almost all perfect, but there’s something about that Winterland 12/31/78 version that grabs me, and while it’s my favorite version, I’m not sure that it’s consistent across ’78, and therefore worthy of saying it peaked. The Other One - for post-hiatus versions, it peaked in ’78 for sure. One listen to Dick’s Picks 18 and From Egypt with Love ought to firm that up. Wharf Rat – again, ’72 is the year if I had to pick one year, but it definitely had a revival in ’78 that made ’78 the king of post-hiatus Wharf Rat. Some good ’77 versions, but I think the Wolf brings out those spacey opening chords like I need to hear them, and the outro jam is hot hot hot (especially 4/22/78, the Sleeper of ’78) The Wheel – need more ’78 versions! But nothing comes close to Dick’s Picks 18, and the Wolf is largely the reason once again. I admit, I’m banking it all on this one version, but it’s that much better: the dreamy magic carpet ride that Jerry and Keith take you on for the first minute before the chorus kicks in is sublime, face melting, Deadness. And this song is to Jerry and Donna what Cassidy is to Bobby and Donna by ’78 – a masterful duet. ’76 had those drum intros that completely change the mood, and not for the good, which is presumably why Jerry did away with it in lieu of the guitar intro. ’76 did have a couple of long running jams at the tail end (30 Trips ’76 & So Many Roads), and you don’t get that from Dick’s Picks 18, but it’s not really The Wheel at that point anyway, so no need to feel like you’re missing that if go with ’78 for the desert island – simply cut the ends off of those versions and call them Jam. DaP 1 and DP 29 are two great ’77 versions that come close to the 2/3/78 gold standard that is DP 18, but not quite there. If you’re not familiar, put it on loud and maybe turn up the treble. Who Are You – never sounded better than ’78, except maybe that blistering live version from MSG after 9/11. Townshend’s guitar was on 11 with some extra cowbell that night. But outside of that live performance, the studio version right on Who Are You is the only place you need to……wait a minute…..
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    ...with a psychedelic-painted face nonchalantly hooked her arm through mine...on a city street in Atlanta, GA in 1973. "Wanna see Zappa?" she asked. I knew Frank existed, but had never seen him live. "Sure," I said. "Here," she said, "swallow this." (Stupidly trustful?) I swallowed it...and followed her to the Fox Theater. She neither had nor showed a ticket. She eyed some guy at the door, who let us both in. On we walked...and walked...down the center aisle...and sat in the first row. Then Frank came out...with Napoleon Murphy Brock, George Duke and the rest. This was the greatest concert I ever saw. Frank was standing right in front of me...and he seemed 10 feet tall. The highlight was "Dog Breath," if you know the song, it starts out with 3 chords: hit hard four times...then five chords: pow pow pow pow pow! It was during those transcendent chords that I actually had the feeling of leaving my body...with no sense of panic. When the concert ended, the entire audience IMMEDIATELY stood up as one and demanded an encore that could not be denied...or forgotten!
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    Yes, to 3/21 and 3/22! We definitely got the 2 best shows as complete ones, as well as the rest of the jams on the bonus discs, but I bet if those shows were recovered today, it would have been box set treatment. I was recently fortunate enough to score the Rockin' The Rhein AOM Bonus Disc as well as New Year's Eve At Winterland. I can't get enough of the AOM one. It truly is a One Disc Wonder, perhaps the best example of one. What are some other ODWs? Of the top of my head, DP16 Disc 2 is a the one that gives AOM Bonus a run for it's money.
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    Yes, to 3/21 and 3/22! We definitely got the 2 best shows as complete ones, as well as the rest of the jams on the bonus discs, but I bet if those shows were recovered today, it would have been box set treatment. I was recently fortunate enough to score the Rockin' The Rhein AOM Bonus Disc as well as New Year's Eve At Winterland. I can't get enough of the AOM one. It truly is a One Disc Wonder, perhaps the best example of one. What are some other ODWs? Of the top of my head, DP16 Disc 2 is a the one that gives AOM Bonus a run for it's money.
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    Groovin to 3/22/72. this AOM run is freakin awesome! Should have been a box set somehow! 3/21 is a really good show also! The PITB absolutely smokes! Great all around! ;)
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    I teach history, and I'm from Kansas City originally - I've seen many a Chiefs game at Arrowhead. Thus, I feel compelled to add some historic context for the July 1 Arrowhead show. Enjoy. Video: The band Missouri playing "Hold Me" at Arrowhead 7/1/78. Some great crowd/stadium footage (good performance too): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3uHya-Mc8U Poster: http://www.postertrip.com/members/images/3566a.jpg From "The History of Willie Nelson's Fourth of July Picnics": Willie played concerts at the Austin Opry House on July 4 and 5, billing both shows as Picnics. He also played a July 2 show at Texxas Jam in Dallas and a July 1 show in Kansas City, Mo. The traditional Picnic was still cooling its heels when Willie suggested having one at the Opry House to manager Tim O'Connor, and it proved to be a welcome respite from the heat and lawsuits. A few days earlier in Dallas, 25,000 didn't quite pack the Cotton Bowl ... and Willie admitted it just wasn't the same: "It's too controlled," he told the Washington Post. "I liked it better when it was out in the pasture." The July 1 event in Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City was billed as a "Fourth of July Picnic," but is notable because the short lineup included the Grateful Dead. "We didn't have an outdoor location, and it was at a time when we had to kind of stay out of Texas. ... It was two nights and it was the coolest Picnic we ever had," said Tim O'Connor of the indoor mini-Picnics in a 1987 interview with the Statesman. http://stillisstillmoving.com/willienelson/the-history-of-willie-nelson…
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    As much as I've agreed with almost all of the bands listed so far, it is, in the end, a truly subjective exercise and primarily a function of personal taste. That said, I'd add the following American artists, who I don't recall seeing posted, as not only great, but important and influential (if overlooked in some cases). The Blasters Captain Beefheart Dispatch/State Radio Dylan Johnny Cash Galactic Hot Tuna Patti Smith Television Tom Waits Muddy Waters Chris Whitley Johnny Winter Wilco No doubt many others...to each his own.
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    Thanks for mentioning Tool! I have loved them for a long time. A Perfect Circle, Maynard's side project band is also a favorite. I will always listen to the bands I loved when I was 19 years old. PJ Harvey Jane's Addiction Nine Inch Nails Ministry Depeche Mode The Smiths Joy Division All the Seattle Bands of the early 90's. Red Hot Chili Peppers 311 Metallica Just to name a few....
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    A classic show with a classic lineup of the Mothers. It's the 50the anniversary of Freak Out in June and I've been going back through his catalog since January. I find the early stuff difficult to listen to, but the Teen Rock Combo years in the late 70's right to the last tour in 1988 has some amazing live music in circuation.
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    These lists have been great but it's disappointing I haven't seen T00L anywhere on these lists. With all the psychedelics, weird music and fun deadheads like to have it is always a surprise to find so few T00L fans in he dead scene. They even mention the band in a song of theirs, while it is rather tongue in cheek nonetheless it's there :) Seriously, start seeing them live and save some paper from Dead tour to take with you. Pleases and thank yous. Other notables not on a list yet and I'm sticking with rock (mostly) only too in an effort to be expedient. Kyuss Converge Heavy Blanket Voyag3r Dillinger escape plan Brian Jonestown Massacre Sleep The New Deal Nightmares on wax Morphine Das Muerte Faith No more Mr. Bungle Buckethead Nevermen
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Not much for the political discussions on this site, but just wanted to let you know you are not alone in your views. Not a fan of either the republican or democrat political parties, as from my view both want to control the sheeple, its just a question of which rights each party wants to take away first, and from whom. "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed and are right." H.L. Mencken
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I love democracybut I hate politics we've been around since 1776. I think we'll be OK. I vote for 6/10/73. Great show, appropriate city.
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The missing Betty Boards were just the ones she had on hand or was listening to at the time. They were always her tapes whether they were being kept with the band's stuff or not. She even told the band they should come and get them before the auction was imposed, but they just weren't interested.
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Last Danc post I can find in this thread is this: March 21, 2016 - 9:18am #173 danc Offline Joined: Sep 11 2007 Fresno reminder I heard the latest Dave's for the first time this past weekend. Really do love it, despite my shock (and no awe) at the big fluffs/miscues here and there, e.g. climax of He's Gone... garage band stuff! How fabulous to NAIL U.S. Blues in the middle of the second set, in the middle of the Summer of '74, as the essay notes. Them old U.S. Blues -- Trump won't win in a landslide per Nixon's second victory, however the U.S. is staying very '72 it seems, or perhaps worse. IT CAN HAPPEN HERE. ______________________________________________________________________________________ I guess that was too much! I was born and raised in the area Dantian talks about. Loved the land, but not the people. I won't go on, as I get pretty nasty about politics and suchlike....
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I just placed my order for the 78 boxset. I whiffed a few times before on boxes so I am not going to miss this one. I was never really big on 78 but it seems the more I hear the more I want to consume. Sure it wasn't 71, 72, 76 or 77 but it sounds good to me! cheers (and 2 rules at the bar - no religion and no politics)
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I too am going to wait, I don't like the business practice for making us pay for a box of shows 6 weeks before they ship, take the money out when you ship rhino, come on now, we want the music, but now it's almost like you want us to pay to have them made first, then ship them. Have not heard these shows, short shows, only 2 discs for the lost betty board shows, so why so short and then, the 2 in red rocks are 3 discs. Not a big 78 fan and I have heard that the Deal on the red rocks show is a scream fest between Bobby and Donna, not a big fan of the scream fests. So, I will wait and see, hopefully, I won't miss out.
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my dog has no nose. No nose? how does he smell? bloomin' awful.
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great article Jim, it truly shows how innovative the GD have always been with their marketing tactics. Love the reference to the Wall Street Heads toward the end as well; nice to know that the kindness can permeate into every field and actually have it help drive some people's work ethic and values when perhaps we may have thought them to be non-existent as outsiders. amazing idea in this day and age. I didn't even recognize Letterman at first. Good for him, let it all hang out. Sixtus

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Can it really have been 29 years ago? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQRcVBF8wQc charlie3, Nice Mencken quote. stoltzfus, The Roman Empire lasted a lot longer than 240 years, and they weren't impervious to crumbling from within. And we've progressed, culturally & technologically, at a much faster pace. But I appreciate the positive sentiment! Even if it's worse than it appears, we will get by. A blessed Holy Thursday to the Catholic heads among us...and everyone else, too.
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Picked one I attended. Thanks man.. Spring '87. What a difference a year made and what a recovery Jerry was making. Totally revived and refreshed. Gave us all hope and new energy. Hampton was my spring stomping ground, it was a bit of a drive from where I was living, but I seemed to be able to fit the pilgrimage into my school schedule year after year. Always an adventure. Thanks man..
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3/24/87 in it's candidacy for the United State of the next Dave's Pick. Man, the crowd reaction during that Terrapin says it all. What a fantastic show! Thanks for sharing and reminding me to give the whole thing a listen.
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Isn't it interesting that after all of the recent Keith talk that there are piano keys displayed prominently on the box?
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There was some interesting discussion regarding Keith vs Brent - sounds, playing, etc... Wondering if anyone else felt that the same as the famous tag lines of Keith being asked to leave because he was parroting Jerry's lines and not being able to function musically was said on purpose by writers close to the band to calm the transition that the core band decided to make because of other reasons- stealing drugs, bad vibes from fights with Donna, maybe if there was some resentment Keith had for other members sleeping with Donna, or wanting a more synth/fender rhodes type sound - but not playing ability. Same with Brent - I didn't notice the plinking in live recordings until late '80s, which to me was an awful music box sound... The early Brent had a great synth sound that again, I believe Jerry and the band wanted to explore and Keith was not too keen on- reconstruction and JGB also had that sound and plus with Merl S influence we see why Jerry may have wanted a fender rhodes/organ type player and that could be some factor in Keith's dismissal. Back to why Brent didn't last- I think that maybe Brent's going over the edge was not ultimately due to addiction and fear of detox from the DUIs but maybe the writing was on the wall that the band was going to go back to more of a Keith sound and get Bruce H or just another player that was more functional and did not give suicide vibes and he couldn't take it... or the organization knew they needed to keep touring and if Brent was in jail the show must go on with someone else. Anyway - pure speculation but its interesting to think that there could be some spin as to what the real reasons were for the dissatisfaction/end of both keyboardists...
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More DVD style packaging that won't fit on my CD shelf. I'd rather something like the 1969 Fillmore West box or the Winterland boxes, even So Many Roads. Why not just make them like Sunshine Daydream and i can just put it in storage next to that, the Spring 1977 and the Warlocks box.
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Bobby: "I'm moving to Australia." ________________________________________ Kayak Guy - if you turn it on its side, it'll fit I suspect, although of course it may stick out depending on shelf-depth. Glass half full?
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That's not really fitting on my CD shelf if it's hanging off the end. Another thing for the storage room and not the CD wall/Jerry shrine. a small disappointment, but still just think about the how the CDs will be secured in the DVD style box, there's no room for digipacks, it's sleeves that will scratch the CDs when you take them out.
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I can't really tell much about the box dimensions or cd packaging from the picture. Hope the cases are not sleeves like 30 Trips- I'm not a fan of those cases. Maybe it's time for the secret weapon- Miss Cleo from the Psychic Readers Network. This would atleast solve the packaging riddle.
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Sixtus - Been down under for 7.5 years and still loving it! (Except for waiting on Dave's Picks to arrive. Sometimes it takes forever.)
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it must be on the back side of that box. That rhymed too many times. errrr....... I can't wait for the great shots of the Red Rocks and all of us there, screaming and dancing as our band elevated us all. This will be a delight to revisit those 'daze' back in July of 78 and the joy of towing you all into the shared bliss of our collective 'flashback'. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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It appears to be the same format as the Spring 1977 box which while beautiful, does not fit on the CD shelves and ended up in a ziplock freezer bag in storage.The overly tight sleeves make not scratching the CDs difficult are yet another design flaw. http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-box-digital PS. the new artwork is cool, but the package size is still nonstandard for audio boxes. Why not use the LP format box and digipacks like the 1990 boxes and give us the artwork in LP sized printings we can appreciate without a magnifying glass. http://www.dead.net/features/sketch-pad-making-july-1978-complete-recor…
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Then again, I kinda like the artwork from Spring '77. I keep putting this stuff up proudly in my office and my gf keeps trying hide it and chick the place out. Not gonna happen! Seriously.. this box is a coup for all of us. One of the more treasured runs in GD lore, returned betty's, beautiful artwork, a great Oroboros and HendrixFreak series of stories. In the immortal words of hbob and the good doctor, Rock On.
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....there is a simple remedy if it happens. Use 2 or 3 drops of paste toothpaste (not gel), grab a lint free cloth, and rub outwards. Rise with tap water. And dry with said cloth. Also outwards. Ta Da!....
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I may have missed it but does anyone know how much the downloads will cost? Maybe the same as the physical? and uh, maybe not?
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arent these some of the betty boards she had called to tell the office she had and wanted to get to them when she was being evicted and the GD office wouldnt return her calls? then they were found many years later in a storage locker someone bought...since the people didnt want to deal with the legalities they pretty much handed them over to GDP, but poor betty gets nothing out of this...pretty pathetic, i think GDP should share the wealth with her
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Vguy72 Could you explain in more detail? Are you saying to rub the CD? For a second there, I thought maybe you were talking about how to prevent scratching. So looking forward to this box!
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Nowhere does Vguy72 refer to CDs, so he is obviously referring to the cases. You apparently have to apply toothpaste to the inside of the case and rub outwards. Presumably one should remove the CD from the case before doing this. Afterwards, it would seem like a good idea to hang the rinsed case up to dry completely before returning the CD to what remains of the case. Good luck with this remedy. Will the first person to try this please post a video for the rest of us to enjoy!
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too funny. Yes the toothpaste on the cd can correct scratches on the cd themselves. I have not gone this far yet and tried it. Usually I have had luck just taking a light lent free cloth and rub the disk to get them to play again. I have read and seen it done. On a bad cd, I have taken it to a (still in business) cd/dvd exchange store where they have a refinisher. This usually takes care of the really bad disks. I am busy with work right now, vguy can explain much better... Here is a link to look at https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=removing+scratches+on+a+cd
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I find reality checks like yours disturbing at times. 26 years ago?!? Jeez....that was a quick quarter century. It seems like just a few years ago they had that contest to name the place. And, as I understand it, it's not even called that anymore. The naming rights went to a bank or something just as creative. We left NY about 15 years ago and I haven't kept up on much from the old homestead excepting a few good people. I know I'm just the latest of the millions of people who are shocked by the briskness of time once we get past our twentieth year, but I still felt the need to say it. I guess I'll just let out a big sigh and get back to work, now.
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I think the box looks GREAT. I think it will be about the size of cd's (like winterland and fillmore and 3 from the vault. Scratches - I don't know about anyone else, but I use the "SkipDr". Have it for 4 or 5 years now. I get a LOT of cd's and dvd's from the library and they can be in terrible condition. This stupid thing works. It can be slow, but it does work. You stick the cd in it and turn the crank, it rotates the disc while spinning a "grinding" wheel. I've taken some incredibly bad scratches out and gotten cd/dvd to work again. A must have in my book. Get replacement grind wheels when you buy one, they don't last forever.
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not sure but I would imagine it would cost the same, if not a little less. no packaging, shipping, etc. It wouldn't cost more, i would think.
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"and not too expensive" (MPfans should get that) looks like a good product. we hates it when the precious music skips.
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I tried the toothpaste method. It sealed up the big cavity in the center of the disc.
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I haven't used it on a CD, but i've used it on my son's x-box games and can tell you the toothpaste method absolutely works!
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I've had the guy at my local record store tell me Turtle Wax or anything that buffs/waxes your car works. I've never used it myself so I can't say.
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Not sure if the scratches are fixed, but my CD's are now pearly white. Colgate Advanced White. Actually gonna give it a try on my Sunshine Daydream CD.
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I guess I am lucky, or just so damn careful, that I don't have this issue. I have over 2,000 cds and zero scratches! I guess that is due to the fact that I don't let anyone else touch these babies and I treat them like the crown jewels. I wish I was in as good a shape as my discs! lol. Rock on
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This is looking good. 5-8-77 in the works as a single box on the way ala Sunshine Daydream. No video. But stand alone box set is coming.
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I don't know if I want to risk toothpaste on my 2011 Road Trips Bonus CD from 12/6/73. I was lucky to get that for a buck seventy-five. Since there's a sign on my lawn that says Dead Storage, I'll tell you - the first thing I did to solve the issue with CDs getting scratched by the sandpaper lining in the cases, was to remove them all from the cases and store them in a CD album. It was cool, because I bought a black case that held a couple hundred CDs, and I ordered a bunch of Dead stickers to put all over it, like a cheap version of the E72 steamer trunk. Unfortunately I was finding even this caused some abrasions on the CD playing surface, which really pissed me off after all of the effort and probably a hundred bucks in CD albums and stickers. What I ended up doing was putting all of my Dead CDs in those generic white CD sleeves (you know which ones), and I store them in the CD bays of the 30 Trips storage crates (and I put my 30 Trips covers with all of the others - on display on my shelves, like books). Problem resolved. Unfortunately, it takes four 30 Trips crates to hold everything that's been officially released between 1966 and 1978 (I left the 80s and 90s stuff in the CD albums), so it's not a solution that will work for everyone - but you can implement the white sleeve solution just as easily by buying a generic CD chest (or build your own if you're handy!). You can try ebay for the empty 30 Trips crates, though it was easier to get them when the box set first came out. There are six CD bays in each box, and each bay can hold 15 - 18 CDs, depending on how thick the sleeves are (they vary by manufacturer I discovered) and how many you want to stuff in there. I do 15 per bay, so about 90 per crate. I have a fifth crate for the next 90 CDs they release......
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Do tell more, what know you of this fabled 5/8/77 release??? Or is that just positive speculation?
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Listening now...my brain is melting into my morning coffee cup... ;-) Way to rock the Heartland...
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Almost all my box sets with tight cardboard sleeves have arrived with at least one CD in the set with a minor, but still playable visible scratch. It's seems like they are scratched when being assembled, I am VERY careful with my CDs and I don't even let other people look at them let alone touch them. The toothpaste trick is something to do when you decide to resell the CDs, not before the 1st play. Tight sleeves are not archival, though they might look cool enough to score a packaging Grammy for the Rhino team. If so many people remove the CDs from the original packaging and use alternate CD sleeves, doesn't it seem like there is a problem? Go back and read any of the recent 70's boxes comment sections and as soon as they are delivered, the boards are filled with complaints about scratched CDs, ripped sleeves and "special methods" to get the CDs out of the sleeves without damaging the sleeves or scratching the CDs. At least when they do the 1980's boxes they use digipacks, they should all be like that and then they could all be on the same shelf and proudly displayed, not hidden in storage because of their non standard sizing. Maybe they think 1970's fans will take anything they can get and have to try harder on the 1980's boxes ;)
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Speaking of protecting cd's, a personal favorite is the Medusa Maneuver. It's one of the Hickory Smoked Spells, and if anyone stares too long at my discs, their hair turns into the scales of the Komodo dragon. In terms of protection, maybe cd packaging peaked with hard plastic cases. Fortunately, Dave's Picks found a balance between cd protection and sustainability.
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Reminds me of Nigel-"don't even look at it"
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