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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • Ken Goodman
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    Newly discovered (by me) at local coffee shop...90's album byBrian Jonestown Massacre : "Their Satanic Majesties Second Request." Terrific example of trippy hypnotic drone music wherein vocals do not distract listeners from creative/artistic concentration. Kewl stuff!
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    Thanks wharfratx - as much as I love the Closing Of Winterland, I don't recall the Johnny B. Good on that one.
  • wharfrattx
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    Keithfan, lovin' the play by plays but don't forget about the JBG encore from 12-31-78! Jerry is positively blazing! Check out the Closing of Winterland DVD. Never a more animated Garcia will you ever see! Butter!
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    Day 6 / Europe '72 / April 17, 1972 Night #2 at the Tivoli Theater, of course, was the night the Dead were recorded for television. If you thought these guys would be a little stiff in front of the cameras, think again. As the liner notes point out, they had no problem mugging for the cameras in clown masks or introducing a new song (He's Gone). Yeah, that's pretty loose. They even opened the show with a song that hadn't been played on the tour yet; for fuck's sake, if you're going to dust off a song, put it in the second set after you've warmed up! But if there's any question still - the onstage banter about monitor levels after Next Time You See Me will put all doubts to rest. This is not how a band plagued by nerves behaves. It's the type of thing that seasoned Dead Heads are used to by now, but to put the moment into historical context with the TV cameras and the overseas crowd, it demonstrates that the stage is their home, and it doesn't matter what country that stage is in, who is watching them, or whether or not their behavior is being immortalized on TV. Home is where you're comfortable being yourself, and they pull this shit all the time. 4/17 is one of my go-to shows from April. It should be noted early on that Keith Godchaux is high in the mix again, and he's having a typically good night. They open the show with a Cold Rain & Snow that is hands-down my favorite of all time. I initially came to know this song as the opener from Steppin' Out with the Grateful Dead: England '72 (taken from the E72 show at the Lyceum on 5/24). It grew on me and became a favorite Dead song; but as my collection grew, I noticed they didn't play it that often. The Ladies & Gentlemen version is definitely hot, but for my part, I prefer Keith's input, and that's where 4/17 trumps 5/24 from Steppin' Out. In an otherwise identical performance, Keith is higher in the mix on 4/17, and it's good stuff. Opened with a doozie - check. The sound is a liiitle bit better on this one (all E72 sounds great, but some shows sound a liiitle bit better). They slide Me and Bobby McGee into the #2 slot, as Bobby's first song, and I find myself paying more attention to it here. It's flawless, of course, and Bobby's vocals are spot on. Better understanding of what freedom means - check. The rest of the first set is a little bit different, as it consists of stellar short length rockers, so the energy and momentum is sustained with very little interruption. The only "ballad" per se is the first performance of He's Gone, but even that one was played pretty fast in the early days of its performance life. I love this rendition; in fact, I love all three versions that were played prior to the development of the "going where the winds don't blow so strange" bridge. I may even prefer it. This has something to do how my brain was hardwired for He's Gone, as the only version I knew for years was performance #2 from Rockin' The Rhein. I don't discount the greatness of the outgoing jam in Englishtown '77, but if I had to pick one version of He's Gone for the desert island, it would be from 1972, and at that, it would probably be one of the first three. I like it faster, I like it without the bridge, and I like it without the "whoa-o-whoa, nothin's gonna bring him back" outro. Difficult to undo hard wiring - check. Yeah, I just copped out on the rest of the first set. It's Europe '72, it sounds great, it flows well. More great China Cat Sunrider, Jack Straw, and Black-Throated Wind, no Good Lovin' this time around. Second set has a typically great Playing In The Band; another great Pigpen / Hammond-laced Sugaree; an early One More Saturday Night that they threw in to finish off the stint on TV; solid El-Paso (with more great piano); another great Truckin'; a Ramble On Rose that also features some great Hammond chops from Pigpen and piano greatness from Keith (this song peaked on the Europe '72 tour IMHO). It Hurts Me Too - outstanding. It both peaked and died on the Europe '72 tour. Jerry's blues soloing is outstanding, and he did it so infrequently that it's always a treat. Enjoy. They end up doing a third set because of the TV affair. The show was not really longer for having a third set; it was more like three shorter sets. It went like this: Dark Star => Sugar Magnolia => Caution => Johnny B. Goode. The Dark Star is one of the best of the eleven that they played on the tour, I think even better than the one they played at Tivoli on night #1. The main theme noodling and improv jamming that goes on in the first ten minutes is melodic and superb; the vocal section is fine as can be; the post vocal improv section is melodic and up-tempo; the Space section and subsequent discord is sharp but not overcooked; and then there's the final movement, which is this great jazz piece with lots of cool double-time on the ride symbol from Billy underlying these great piano leads from Keith (which is all decorated with some of that well-timed Hammond goodness from Pigpen, and additional embellishment from Bobby, Phil and Jerry). The transition into Sugar Magnolia on this night is a Face Melt Special with extra How Do They Do This. So...extra melodic thirty plus minute Dark Star without overcooked cacophony section, featuring one of the best transitions into Sugar Magnolia ever - check. Sugar Magnolia is a thing of beauty in 1972. It reached fruition on the Europe '72 tour and sustained that magic through Veneta; but it slowly began to change, and by 1973 it was not quite the same creature. It was still a great song by any band's standards, but something elemental had been lost - perhaps it wilted in Pigpen's absence. It no longer evoked the Sunshine Daydream itself, only reminded us of what that dream had been like. In any event, it's still all caught up in sunlight on this night. The transition from Dark Star is ushered in with some rare non-chordal organ notes from Pig, which fade out as each band member joins the high times of Europe '72 Sugar Magnolia. For fans of the Billy drum fill, he goes with the smooth roll on the floor toms on this one. Caution is incredible. If this show were available on Dead.net still, I would say just buy it for Caution. It goes on for 23+ minutes and showcases one of the rarest (and greatest) elements of the McKernan years: the Pigpen-Godchaux double-barrel keyboard extravaganzational assault. I don't think the keyboards ever sounded better than the Hammond-Steinway / organ-piano blend that they achieved with these two onstage, and the Caution jam is where it climaxed. With only four or five performances the entire tour, and Pigpen's sporadic presence in the mix, this might be the best of the best. Don't miss the trademark Caution bomp-bomp-boms at 18 minutes or so; it's actually kind of cool that Pig raps over them on this version, as it's customarily an instrumental passage. If nothing else, Pigpen demonstrates his versatility as a lyricist here, as he manages to incorporate some stanzas about a certain demure young woman we heard him woo during his Good Lovin' rap the previous night. Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) with lady who still has her leg up against the wall - check. Inventing a new adjective - check, check. I usually turn off Johnny B. Goode, unless it's Three From The Vault or this show. It's really good here (and the only performance from the tour). There used to be an hour of a great quality video footage on youtube, but alas, it's been taken down. There are however, still a couple of tracks still up there - He's Gone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-yDZdHn6mw
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    I bought this LP not long after it was released in March of 1975. About 10 years ago, I transfered it to CD-R. It's clean sounding, but you can tell that it's from vinyl. I listen to it from time to time and I do appreciate it. If you have a copy on hand, read the credits on the back cover. I see "Published by Artists Publishing Collective except: ..." I wonder if this has anything to do with why this album has not been released on CD yet. According to bizpedia.com: Artists Publishing Collective, Incorporated is a California Domestic Corporation filed on January 23, 1975. The company's filing status is listed as Suspended and its File Number is C0729867. The company's principal address is 1016 Lincoln Avenue, San Rafael, CA 94902. Hmmm...
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    I finally got to listening this officially released nugget again. It's only my 3rd time from this box. I know this show quite well from previous unofficial recordings - cassette & CD-R, but this 3rd disc containing Dark Star> Sug Mags> Caution> JB Goode really shone brightly this morning while listening to it. It's as if I heard it for the 1st time - excitedly and with no expactations.An amazing great show, but all of Europe 72 is like that.
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    I may be wrong but I thought that it was Keith's untimely death that caused the "break up". It is a shame that the Keith & Donna album is pretty much the only Round/Grateful Dead catalog release that has never been reissued on CD. Maybe one day it will happen.
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    Not that it matters to the music...but I wonder what caused Keith & Donna to "break up?" Probably an intriguing soap opera there.
  • KeithFan2112
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    Day 5 / Europe '72 / April 16, 1972 This was the first show I bought from the E72 box set. I had already owned RTR & HYH since they'd been released, but never the original E72 LP/CD. After a many-years layoff from the Dead, I saw Sunshine Daydream in the rack at Barnes & Noble, and was impressed by the hype sticker that indicated it was the most requested Dead show ever - and I bought it. The rest is history. In my search for something to rival the fantastic Veneta show, I looked online and found a Rolling Stone article that listed 4/16/72 in the top 20 best Dead shows ever. Soon after, I ordered it from dead.net and the addiction that had taken hold with Veneta was firmly underway. My first impression was very positive. RTR was THE music that pulled me into the Dead's orbit many years before, and HYH was high on my playlist as well - so expectations were running high. I was still in the phase of cherry picking "best of all time" song performances, and I was looking forward to the extended jam version of Playing In The Band without Donna, and the extended jam Truckin'. The Greatest Story opener is solid; however, my trepidation about Donna has long since dissipated, and I miss her "cool clear water" vocal, which is now the highlight of the song for me. Sugaree is one one my favorite pre-hiatus versions, because there's some subtle reverb from the barn's acoustics that treats Jerry's guitar line nicely; but more still, Pigpen's organ is great accompianment on this song, and he's (thankfully) up in the mix on this show (not always the case). There are a couple of great tour rarities played here - Cumberland Blues and Dire Wolf. At the time I bought this show, I considered them both throwaways; today they're an integral part of my listening experience, and an element that makes this show a little bit special. Jerry is in prime Bluegrass picking mode during the solos on CB, and Billy drives a swinging no-nonsense rhythm train through Dire Wolf, with plenty of off beat fills that make this slow folk tune sound like an up-tempo rocker - all Billy. China Cat Sunrider is one of my favorites of the tour. There's not much more to my liking it than Jerry & Bobby's sharp crystal clear picking throughout - not that they don't always play it well, but between the barn acoustics and some x factor I can't put a finger on, it's one of the versions I turn to most often. Good Lovin' is a 20 minute affair, and let's just say - she's a bitch dog in heat who got to turn her oven around so Pigpen can smell it (did he really say that?). Tennessee Jed is great - I get the feeling this was one of their personal favorites to play, because you can feel it grow throughout the tour, not so much in arrangement, but in intensity. The jam that leads up to the final chorus of the song seems to get longer and stronger with every performance, and everyone gets involved. Compare to 10/21/71 and you'll hear what I mean. Deal I love best in '72, and while I used to talk up Veneta the most, this 4/16 version has caught my fancy lately (despite Billy coming in late at the beginning - drummers, always late). Jerry's solo, wah wah, and stretched out vocals are what hit the spot. I like this Loser a lot, the harmonies are perfect. The second set jam is worth the price of admission: Truckin' => Jam => TOO => Me & My Uncle => TOO2 => NFA => GDTRFB => NFA2. What can I say, other than they're all top rate versions if you break them up and listen to them independently (but why, right?). Everything is stellar - the sound, the immaculate execution, the energy, and the symbiosis of the musicians in their craft. There aren't any naysayers in this audience, so there's nobody to convince; but even for the Dead, the transition between TOO and Me & My Uncle is so smooth and unheralded, that the uninitiated would swear it's a rehearsed move they've practiced no less than a dozen times. Really, don't miss it. NFA and GDTRFB is equally impressive, though I can't make the same argument about rehearsals:-) The Other One is much shorter than usual, and there's no Sugar Magnolia for the only show of the tour - almost as if to say, next time at least clear the lunch tables out of the cafeteria before inviting us to play (it was a 700 ticket party in the University cafeteria). Playing in the Band is better with Donna. Pigpen may actually be the star of this show. I get the impression his stage time on songs he didn't sing lead on was inconsistent throughout the tour, as there are long stretches during some shows when I don't hear him playing or singing harmony (or even shaking the maracas and tambarine). Not the case at Aarhus; he's all over everything, especially the Hammond. While he's never going to be mentioned in a conversation about the best keynoardists, greatest lead singers, or innovators of rap music, he's the goddam best utility player to grace a rock 'n roll band. His chops during this show augment the rhythm and melody in all of the right places, which is the true sign of a great band musician - knowing when to play. Long live Pig. He was and always will be, one of the Grateful Dead.
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    Day 3 / Europe '72 / April 11, 1972 I like how the liner notes compare Newcastle to playing on Mars. I look to this show for the fantastic Truckin' (nearly 20 minutes, longest of the tour, although 4/16 kind of breaks it up into two tracks and calls the rest Jam) => Drums => The Other One => Comes A Time. Only two Brokedowns on this tour and I love them both - this one is has this nice piano bit in the beginning that actually comes out louder (along with the crowd applause) on the Steppin' Out mix, but it's still nice; one nice "cool clear water well you can't ever tell" from Donna (sometimes you get two); I also look to this one for the set list of shorter rockers - Greatest Story, Beat It on Down, Jack Straw, Deal, Tennessee Jed, Big Railroad Blues, Brown-eyed Women, Ramble On Rose (ok maybe not a rocker, but one of my Jerry favs in '72, where this song LIVED), and shit what was the other one from Jerry....anyway, a little higher in hiss than some shows, and turn up Bobby for fuck's sake. Would have been funny if he unraveled the T-shirt after the fan got tossed, and it said MARRY ME MARK! mule_skinner - Glad you liked the post, true story. Was at my parent's house DJ'ing the poolside tunes about 10 years ago on the 4th of July, had just purchased it and thought Ladies & Gentlemen would be perfect for the occasion with all of my relatives. On comes Good Lovin' and Pigpen doing his "I'm a bidness man; What kind of bidness? Are you a refrigerator repair service man?; Why you got a refrigerator?; No, I was just asking" Funny right, except he went on to pimp him a girl so ugly, she was mistaken for a Jersey cow (what'd you want, you only had a dollar and quarter). Lesson learned.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Not much for the political discussions on this site, but just wanted to let you know you are not alone in your views. Not a fan of either the republican or democrat political parties, as from my view both want to control the sheeple, its just a question of which rights each party wants to take away first, and from whom. "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed and are right." H.L. Mencken
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I love democracybut I hate politics we've been around since 1776. I think we'll be OK. I vote for 6/10/73. Great show, appropriate city.
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The missing Betty Boards were just the ones she had on hand or was listening to at the time. They were always her tapes whether they were being kept with the band's stuff or not. She even told the band they should come and get them before the auction was imposed, but they just weren't interested.
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Last Danc post I can find in this thread is this: March 21, 2016 - 9:18am #173 danc Offline Joined: Sep 11 2007 Fresno reminder I heard the latest Dave's for the first time this past weekend. Really do love it, despite my shock (and no awe) at the big fluffs/miscues here and there, e.g. climax of He's Gone... garage band stuff! How fabulous to NAIL U.S. Blues in the middle of the second set, in the middle of the Summer of '74, as the essay notes. Them old U.S. Blues -- Trump won't win in a landslide per Nixon's second victory, however the U.S. is staying very '72 it seems, or perhaps worse. IT CAN HAPPEN HERE. ______________________________________________________________________________________ I guess that was too much! I was born and raised in the area Dantian talks about. Loved the land, but not the people. I won't go on, as I get pretty nasty about politics and suchlike....
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I just placed my order for the 78 boxset. I whiffed a few times before on boxes so I am not going to miss this one. I was never really big on 78 but it seems the more I hear the more I want to consume. Sure it wasn't 71, 72, 76 or 77 but it sounds good to me! cheers (and 2 rules at the bar - no religion and no politics)
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I too am going to wait, I don't like the business practice for making us pay for a box of shows 6 weeks before they ship, take the money out when you ship rhino, come on now, we want the music, but now it's almost like you want us to pay to have them made first, then ship them. Have not heard these shows, short shows, only 2 discs for the lost betty board shows, so why so short and then, the 2 in red rocks are 3 discs. Not a big 78 fan and I have heard that the Deal on the red rocks show is a scream fest between Bobby and Donna, not a big fan of the scream fests. So, I will wait and see, hopefully, I won't miss out.
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my dog has no nose. No nose? how does he smell? bloomin' awful.
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great article Jim, it truly shows how innovative the GD have always been with their marketing tactics. Love the reference to the Wall Street Heads toward the end as well; nice to know that the kindness can permeate into every field and actually have it help drive some people's work ethic and values when perhaps we may have thought them to be non-existent as outsiders. amazing idea in this day and age. I didn't even recognize Letterman at first. Good for him, let it all hang out. Sixtus

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Can it really have been 29 years ago? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQRcVBF8wQc charlie3, Nice Mencken quote. stoltzfus, The Roman Empire lasted a lot longer than 240 years, and they weren't impervious to crumbling from within. And we've progressed, culturally & technologically, at a much faster pace. But I appreciate the positive sentiment! Even if it's worse than it appears, we will get by. A blessed Holy Thursday to the Catholic heads among us...and everyone else, too.
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Picked one I attended. Thanks man.. Spring '87. What a difference a year made and what a recovery Jerry was making. Totally revived and refreshed. Gave us all hope and new energy. Hampton was my spring stomping ground, it was a bit of a drive from where I was living, but I seemed to be able to fit the pilgrimage into my school schedule year after year. Always an adventure. Thanks man..
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3/24/87 in it's candidacy for the United State of the next Dave's Pick. Man, the crowd reaction during that Terrapin says it all. What a fantastic show! Thanks for sharing and reminding me to give the whole thing a listen.
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Isn't it interesting that after all of the recent Keith talk that there are piano keys displayed prominently on the box?
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There was some interesting discussion regarding Keith vs Brent - sounds, playing, etc... Wondering if anyone else felt that the same as the famous tag lines of Keith being asked to leave because he was parroting Jerry's lines and not being able to function musically was said on purpose by writers close to the band to calm the transition that the core band decided to make because of other reasons- stealing drugs, bad vibes from fights with Donna, maybe if there was some resentment Keith had for other members sleeping with Donna, or wanting a more synth/fender rhodes type sound - but not playing ability. Same with Brent - I didn't notice the plinking in live recordings until late '80s, which to me was an awful music box sound... The early Brent had a great synth sound that again, I believe Jerry and the band wanted to explore and Keith was not too keen on- reconstruction and JGB also had that sound and plus with Merl S influence we see why Jerry may have wanted a fender rhodes/organ type player and that could be some factor in Keith's dismissal. Back to why Brent didn't last- I think that maybe Brent's going over the edge was not ultimately due to addiction and fear of detox from the DUIs but maybe the writing was on the wall that the band was going to go back to more of a Keith sound and get Bruce H or just another player that was more functional and did not give suicide vibes and he couldn't take it... or the organization knew they needed to keep touring and if Brent was in jail the show must go on with someone else. Anyway - pure speculation but its interesting to think that there could be some spin as to what the real reasons were for the dissatisfaction/end of both keyboardists...
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More DVD style packaging that won't fit on my CD shelf. I'd rather something like the 1969 Fillmore West box or the Winterland boxes, even So Many Roads. Why not just make them like Sunshine Daydream and i can just put it in storage next to that, the Spring 1977 and the Warlocks box.
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Bobby: "I'm moving to Australia." ________________________________________ Kayak Guy - if you turn it on its side, it'll fit I suspect, although of course it may stick out depending on shelf-depth. Glass half full?
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That's not really fitting on my CD shelf if it's hanging off the end. Another thing for the storage room and not the CD wall/Jerry shrine. a small disappointment, but still just think about the how the CDs will be secured in the DVD style box, there's no room for digipacks, it's sleeves that will scratch the CDs when you take them out.
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I can't really tell much about the box dimensions or cd packaging from the picture. Hope the cases are not sleeves like 30 Trips- I'm not a fan of those cases. Maybe it's time for the secret weapon- Miss Cleo from the Psychic Readers Network. This would atleast solve the packaging riddle.
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Sixtus - Been down under for 7.5 years and still loving it! (Except for waiting on Dave's Picks to arrive. Sometimes it takes forever.)
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it must be on the back side of that box. That rhymed too many times. errrr....... I can't wait for the great shots of the Red Rocks and all of us there, screaming and dancing as our band elevated us all. This will be a delight to revisit those 'daze' back in July of 78 and the joy of towing you all into the shared bliss of our collective 'flashback'. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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It appears to be the same format as the Spring 1977 box which while beautiful, does not fit on the CD shelves and ended up in a ziplock freezer bag in storage.The overly tight sleeves make not scratching the CDs difficult are yet another design flaw. http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-box-digital PS. the new artwork is cool, but the package size is still nonstandard for audio boxes. Why not use the LP format box and digipacks like the 1990 boxes and give us the artwork in LP sized printings we can appreciate without a magnifying glass. http://www.dead.net/features/sketch-pad-making-july-1978-complete-recor…
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Then again, I kinda like the artwork from Spring '77. I keep putting this stuff up proudly in my office and my gf keeps trying hide it and chick the place out. Not gonna happen! Seriously.. this box is a coup for all of us. One of the more treasured runs in GD lore, returned betty's, beautiful artwork, a great Oroboros and HendrixFreak series of stories. In the immortal words of hbob and the good doctor, Rock On.
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....there is a simple remedy if it happens. Use 2 or 3 drops of paste toothpaste (not gel), grab a lint free cloth, and rub outwards. Rise with tap water. And dry with said cloth. Also outwards. Ta Da!....
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I may have missed it but does anyone know how much the downloads will cost? Maybe the same as the physical? and uh, maybe not?
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arent these some of the betty boards she had called to tell the office she had and wanted to get to them when she was being evicted and the GD office wouldnt return her calls? then they were found many years later in a storage locker someone bought...since the people didnt want to deal with the legalities they pretty much handed them over to GDP, but poor betty gets nothing out of this...pretty pathetic, i think GDP should share the wealth with her
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Vguy72 Could you explain in more detail? Are you saying to rub the CD? For a second there, I thought maybe you were talking about how to prevent scratching. So looking forward to this box!
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Nowhere does Vguy72 refer to CDs, so he is obviously referring to the cases. You apparently have to apply toothpaste to the inside of the case and rub outwards. Presumably one should remove the CD from the case before doing this. Afterwards, it would seem like a good idea to hang the rinsed case up to dry completely before returning the CD to what remains of the case. Good luck with this remedy. Will the first person to try this please post a video for the rest of us to enjoy!
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too funny. Yes the toothpaste on the cd can correct scratches on the cd themselves. I have not gone this far yet and tried it. Usually I have had luck just taking a light lent free cloth and rub the disk to get them to play again. I have read and seen it done. On a bad cd, I have taken it to a (still in business) cd/dvd exchange store where they have a refinisher. This usually takes care of the really bad disks. I am busy with work right now, vguy can explain much better... Here is a link to look at https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=removing+scratches+on+a+cd
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I find reality checks like yours disturbing at times. 26 years ago?!? Jeez....that was a quick quarter century. It seems like just a few years ago they had that contest to name the place. And, as I understand it, it's not even called that anymore. The naming rights went to a bank or something just as creative. We left NY about 15 years ago and I haven't kept up on much from the old homestead excepting a few good people. I know I'm just the latest of the millions of people who are shocked by the briskness of time once we get past our twentieth year, but I still felt the need to say it. I guess I'll just let out a big sigh and get back to work, now.
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I think the box looks GREAT. I think it will be about the size of cd's (like winterland and fillmore and 3 from the vault. Scratches - I don't know about anyone else, but I use the "SkipDr". Have it for 4 or 5 years now. I get a LOT of cd's and dvd's from the library and they can be in terrible condition. This stupid thing works. It can be slow, but it does work. You stick the cd in it and turn the crank, it rotates the disc while spinning a "grinding" wheel. I've taken some incredibly bad scratches out and gotten cd/dvd to work again. A must have in my book. Get replacement grind wheels when you buy one, they don't last forever.
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not sure but I would imagine it would cost the same, if not a little less. no packaging, shipping, etc. It wouldn't cost more, i would think.
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"and not too expensive" (MPfans should get that) looks like a good product. we hates it when the precious music skips.
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I tried the toothpaste method. It sealed up the big cavity in the center of the disc.
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I haven't used it on a CD, but i've used it on my son's x-box games and can tell you the toothpaste method absolutely works!
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I've had the guy at my local record store tell me Turtle Wax or anything that buffs/waxes your car works. I've never used it myself so I can't say.
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Not sure if the scratches are fixed, but my CD's are now pearly white. Colgate Advanced White. Actually gonna give it a try on my Sunshine Daydream CD.
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I guess I am lucky, or just so damn careful, that I don't have this issue. I have over 2,000 cds and zero scratches! I guess that is due to the fact that I don't let anyone else touch these babies and I treat them like the crown jewels. I wish I was in as good a shape as my discs! lol. Rock on
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This is looking good. 5-8-77 in the works as a single box on the way ala Sunshine Daydream. No video. But stand alone box set is coming.
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I don't know if I want to risk toothpaste on my 2011 Road Trips Bonus CD from 12/6/73. I was lucky to get that for a buck seventy-five. Since there's a sign on my lawn that says Dead Storage, I'll tell you - the first thing I did to solve the issue with CDs getting scratched by the sandpaper lining in the cases, was to remove them all from the cases and store them in a CD album. It was cool, because I bought a black case that held a couple hundred CDs, and I ordered a bunch of Dead stickers to put all over it, like a cheap version of the E72 steamer trunk. Unfortunately I was finding even this caused some abrasions on the CD playing surface, which really pissed me off after all of the effort and probably a hundred bucks in CD albums and stickers. What I ended up doing was putting all of my Dead CDs in those generic white CD sleeves (you know which ones), and I store them in the CD bays of the 30 Trips storage crates (and I put my 30 Trips covers with all of the others - on display on my shelves, like books). Problem resolved. Unfortunately, it takes four 30 Trips crates to hold everything that's been officially released between 1966 and 1978 (I left the 80s and 90s stuff in the CD albums), so it's not a solution that will work for everyone - but you can implement the white sleeve solution just as easily by buying a generic CD chest (or build your own if you're handy!). You can try ebay for the empty 30 Trips crates, though it was easier to get them when the box set first came out. There are six CD bays in each box, and each bay can hold 15 - 18 CDs, depending on how thick the sleeves are (they vary by manufacturer I discovered) and how many you want to stuff in there. I do 15 per bay, so about 90 per crate. I have a fifth crate for the next 90 CDs they release......
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Do tell more, what know you of this fabled 5/8/77 release??? Or is that just positive speculation?
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Listening now...my brain is melting into my morning coffee cup... ;-) Way to rock the Heartland...
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Almost all my box sets with tight cardboard sleeves have arrived with at least one CD in the set with a minor, but still playable visible scratch. It's seems like they are scratched when being assembled, I am VERY careful with my CDs and I don't even let other people look at them let alone touch them. The toothpaste trick is something to do when you decide to resell the CDs, not before the 1st play. Tight sleeves are not archival, though they might look cool enough to score a packaging Grammy for the Rhino team. If so many people remove the CDs from the original packaging and use alternate CD sleeves, doesn't it seem like there is a problem? Go back and read any of the recent 70's boxes comment sections and as soon as they are delivered, the boards are filled with complaints about scratched CDs, ripped sleeves and "special methods" to get the CDs out of the sleeves without damaging the sleeves or scratching the CDs. At least when they do the 1980's boxes they use digipacks, they should all be like that and then they could all be on the same shelf and proudly displayed, not hidden in storage because of their non standard sizing. Maybe they think 1970's fans will take anything they can get and have to try harder on the 1980's boxes ;)
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Speaking of protecting cd's, a personal favorite is the Medusa Maneuver. It's one of the Hickory Smoked Spells, and if anyone stares too long at my discs, their hair turns into the scales of the Komodo dragon. In terms of protection, maybe cd packaging peaked with hard plastic cases. Fortunately, Dave's Picks found a balance between cd protection and sustainability.
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Reminds me of Nigel-"don't even look at it"
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