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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • greeknik
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    Looks like a very interesting set. Good time for the band. But I'm still waiting for the REAL DEAL: The box sets of TEXAS '72 and WINTERLAND '74 (Oct.)!
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    Bold prediction this will sell out after it's been released not sure if a lot alot of people will lay out the $$$ for this set in these hard times...You know they did a lot of 1989 and 1990 releases (a lot of 1990) otherwise they weren't that good although from the 30 tips box set the years they put out shows they were pretty good but I don't think you'll ever see a 1972 release again a whole entire tour..not just a leg...you can't say what will come...I think a lot of us swore we'd see a leg of 1980 shows more spedifically the acoustic/electric sets but my intellect tells me we won't ever see that happen as it would've happened already...unless those tapes haven't surfaced yet maybe someone will clean out their cellar one day and find soundboards...this is a great find this 1978 box set more spedifically the red rocks shows...but we'll see what happens in the future but you can't be unhappy with the progress of releases...we are definitely not hungry for more material but are left wondering what could be next...like the next dave's pick will be...some people already know.
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    This is a very exciting box set for several obvious reasons. The legendary Red Rocks show and the implications of lost Betty Boards being returned to the vault. I've never heard any of these July '78 shows, so I'm really into this release. The question will be if I manage to fund a purchase before it's sold out. I definitely agree that a May '77 part 2 would make perfect sense for it's 40th anniversary next year, assuming those tapes can also get or have already been returned. However, I would probably be just as excited to see a 5/9/77 DaP 20 to round off the year. So... whatever. Just keep the hits coming.
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    Last I checked the count of 60s & 70s vs. 80s & 90s last year was Dead even last year. 30 Trips had 17 shows from the 80s & 90s, while the 60s & 70s had 13 in that set (add the four Dave's Picks from last year and you get 17 from the 60s & 70s). There is no problem, just petulant children. 80s/90s beggars - put your bowls away.
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    I get the complaint about Dave shutting out the 80's/90's (and '66-'68). I share it. But with the Bettys back on board, I'd expect a slew of new '71-'78 stuff. Big tent, legendary type shows. Mickey's last show, the first of the ESP run (2/18/71). Kezar '73. Cornell & Buffalo '77. Summer '76. Fall '73. And Red Rocks '78 belongs in that pantheon. Especially 7/8/78. Point being, a release of 7/8/78 isn't the proper time to complain about the lack of 80's releases. Do that when we have an 'average' show from the '69-'78 era, not a legendary one. Would I like some more '89, '85, '87? Yes. Or even '88/'80? Yes. '66-'68? Yes. Even '91 or '81. ('90 is pretty well represented). But when 7/8/78 comes out, I'm not complaining, I'm celebrating. This is as good as the GD gets.
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    Appreciate the kind words on my recollections. Thanks.....
    A while back I reread some books I have regarding the Dead, and tucked into one book, I found this quote from Jerry "I thought that maybe this idea of transforming principle has something to do with it. Because when we get onstage, what we really want to happen is, we want to be transformed from ordinary players into extraordinary ones, like forces of larger consciousness. And the audience wants to be transformed from whatever ordinary reality they may be, into something a little wider, something that enlarges them. So maybe it's the notion of transformation, seat of the pants shamanism, that has something to do with why the Grateful Dead keeps pulling them in. Maybe that is what keeps the audience coming back for and what keeps it fascinating for us too." So, I still can't recall everything that Jerry and I talked about that February morning almost 4 decades ago, but in a microcosm, it involved that same synergistic effect; I was so excited to talk to him, Jerry became jazzed to talk about art and symbols/mysticism (probably a break for him having to talk about the Dead & music, etc.), and while sharing our conversation, our interaction took on its own power. It took on it's own moment. I think that is what it was like when we joined with the Dead at those shows, their pouring out this unfathomable energy in that moment. And us in the audience rising in response with our collective surge pushing energy back to the Dead, which then propelled them to greater heights of aural adventure. Maybe I am just rambling on,.. but you know that the Grateful Dead did often get that 'dragon' off the ground, and into flight, with us all then levitating in the Dead's tow/draft. We were part that remarkable mixture of music + magic + visuals + adventure = alchemy. Then as we would watch/listen, with our mouths agape, as each of the Dead would tease, the improvisation, their 'call and response', Jerry's cascading leads ('catch me if you can'), Bobby's shimmering rhythm guitar, Phil's bass runs/bombs (that changed the very atmospheric pressure), Keith's keyboard interplay, Billy and Mickey's primal percussion then mutating into complex and compelling syncopation, urging and propelling the band further... and the bard Hunter's lyrics, that poetry, those revelations,...that song...and we would roar and exhort the Dead and pour that fervor into our tribal stomp and collective howl. And suddenly the moment slows and extends and everything becomes quite still, and that voice "nothing you can hold for very long..." .....And then all of us stumble out into that crystalline cool evening. Sad eyes, heads shaking, and smiles which alternated between satiation and longing for more. The truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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    That 7.7 pre-drumz list....
    ....sounds interesting. Cold Rain, BIODTL, Scarlet -> Fire, Dancin -> Drumz. Had to read that twice before I got it....
  • Shafts Of Lavender
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    I'm real excited for this release and pre-ordered immediately. I'm most looking forward to the 7/1 show, I wonder how the country fans reacted to Terrapin. I think this will be the only box set of the year despite the curiously early release date because people are still recovering from the massively expensive (and massively great) year 2015 was. The last digital 30 trips release just barely sold out and in one of Dave's earlier chats this year he said it wouldnt be an overwhelming year box set wise. That being said, I'd be all in for a fall box set....
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    No wilfredtjones, not in Omaha, it was that 77-78 NYE show in
    San Francisco at the Winterland, where I gifted the 'dragon' to Jerry. And then a month or so later I got to talk with him after that monster Madison Show (February of 78). Omaha was that summer. If I could repeat myself for those who haven't heard this before (my 3 sons are groaning loudly, they have heard this tale so many times), but here he (I) goes again.....many years ago, in a galaxy far far away, called Nebraska........ Back in 1977, my girlfriend (now wife), myself, and two buddies decided to road-trip from Lincoln Nebraska to the Winterland for the New Year's Eve run of shows in San Francisco. I toted along with us a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and 1/2 foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting/consuming it's own tail. I had 'scraffitto' (carved designs) into the entire beast's 'hide' and then it was fired and stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture that I have ever made. And I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years. So away we go, get to the venue and secured tickets for the run (12/27-29-30-31-77). The shows were unbefuckinliveable and Winterland was such a great hall. But on the 31st, we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the doors to open, talking and watching the circus, ready to hurry and get in for the 'activities' ie. freak volleyball and Bill Graham was going to show us movies (Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man and the original Beatles Magical Mystery tour) before that evening's show. I thought "I better try to unload the dragon aka 'Oroboros' now, it's heavy and I don't want to try to talk my way though the front gate with it." I spied a door that said 'Backstage' and began knocking on the door. No answer. The line of people on the side walk started getting up and moving toward the entrance. Banged even harder thinking "I've got to get this dragon in there so I can go in the front and join in before the show", and as I pounded harder, the door yanks open so hard that it yanks me into the doorway. This doorway is immediately filled with a gigantic black man in a red event t-shirt, who puts his hand on my chest and leans forward and bellows "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" Startled, I held out the dragon with both hands and stuttered "to give this to the band". The giant took it in his immense hand and his face curls into a grin as he held it closer to inspect it and I watched my dragon shrink to the size of a key chain. He exclaimed "Wow, what is this, I'd like one" and I explained "it's an oroboros and that is the only one there is." He grinned and said "Cool, who do you want me to give it to?" and I said "to Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia." The giant disappeared as quickly as he appeared and the door slammed shut like the the first time Dorothy tried to get into the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. So, I happily gain entrance to the show and needless to say, it was something, 'freak volleyball' followed by the movies, Graham's copy of Bradbury's 'Illustrated Man' followed by a 16 mm Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour". The colorful/wonderful crowd, 'rainbow' Rose with an eyedropper of liquid party favor "just one dollar per drop. On your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye". Oh, and when each person walked through the entrance the staff handed us a piece of paper that had a message about a "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with steal your face logo. When you entered Winterland, you could go into the big 'hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony, (with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which played some black and white videos on a 'big screen' taken from pro shots of the Winterland stage when Hendrix or Airplane or etc played. Very entertaining on many levels. Hey, the New Riders of the Purple Sage are starting, got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house. Anticipation was high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage..., things began to sparkle, and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and, then to sway with the strains of familiar music as the Dead coax this old hall to dance with us all. This is such a delight, I know the vista cruiser is engaged and then I notice when the house lights went down, and the stage lights went dark in between songs, then I saw it. On top of a monitor, in between Billy and Mickey, there was a flame, it was a white candle sitting in front of a dragon consuming it's tail. It was Oroboros, ON STAGE WITH THE DEAD! I watched as Jerry walked over and lit a cigarette off the candle by the beast. They took a break and the surprise for the second half was Uncle BoBo (as Bobby liked to call Graham) dressed up as Uncle Sam on a motorcycle sliding down on a cable suspended high from the back of the hall to the stage. They put spotlights on him as he approached the stage and it was hilarious. Because as Graham came to the stage, the weight of the bike and BoBo was too much and the stage hands had to rush out and drag him onstage and then to the explosion of Sugar Mag, complete with dropping balloons and babies girl and boy New Years dancing at the each edge of the stage. I was 'sittin' on top of the world (Dead reference intended). What a night!! If you pull up 'YouTube', NYE show 1977- Fire on the Mountain video, right at the end of Fire on the Mountain, the camera does zoom in on the 'oroboros' for a couple of seconds. RDevil here on Deadnet found that 'view' and clued me into it. From then on my 3 sons knew I wasn't bullshittin' because I showed it to them! Anyway, what a treat that run in 1977 was. At many levels, the return of China Cat-Rider, my being able to 'gift' our band, who poured out so much to us. But unknown to me, the best would be yet to come. We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. This is not the end of the tale. Fast forward to another road trip to Madison, Wisc. on 2-3-78. The Dead were on a roll and it was really a killer show. That Cold Rain and snow to start and the tremendous second half with Estimated>Eyes>Wheel (if I recall correctly). Disparage 1978 at your own risk. I was at Windterland and other shows in 1977 and still treasure those 78 shows I was lucky enough to attend. The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk and asked "Could I have Jerry Garcia's room please?" and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said "Hey, I'm the guy that brought the dragon to the New Year's show" and Garcia said "Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes". I couldn't believe what was happening but stumbled into the coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired gypsy woman. I walked over and introduced myself, and 'shook the hand, that shook the hand, of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan'. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured and said "sit down, man". He asked me "How did you fire that dragon so that it didn't explode in the kiln?" and I explained how I had cut it in half and hollowed it out and then joined it back together. I told him how I had used a guitar string to 'halve it" and we locked eyes at that moment and he burst into laughter and I said "Ironic, huh?" and Jerry quipped "No, man that makes perfect sense." And then we laughed some more. Then the gypsy/beauty said "where are you from?" and I replied Nebraska. And she shot Garcia a glance and stated "he came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band!" To which Jerry shrugged his shoulders and retorted "we didn't ask him to come" and looked at me and we both howled with laughter again. No deadhead was she. We talked more about art and the dragon and I didn't know at that time of Garcia's interest and practice in art (this kind anyway). He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with 'turn on a dime' twists, turns, and little commentaries on a variety of topics. Jerry was also focused on listening, not acting like he was the important one, giving me time and locked in on our discussion and talking about our shared interests. The gypsy woman frowned in disbelief as she asked me "You went out to San Francisco for New Years and then came to Wisconsin" and I said 'yes' and then I turned to Garcia and asked him "Why don't you bring the circus back to Lincoln, Nebraska?" He quickly replied "You mean to Perishing Auditorium?" And I corrected him "No, it is Pershing Auditorium, after the army general" and he quickly retorted "No man, it was perishing, really!" And we both burst out laughing again. At that Lincoln, Ne. Dead show on 2-26-73, there were a bunch of drunk frat boys yelling 'boogie, boogie" at the top of their lungs.., but that show is top-notch! Anyway, I asked Garcia "could you bring the Dead back to Nebraska" and Jerry grinned that Cheshire cat grin and said "who knows?" I took my leave (their breakfast arrived) and drove home. Then that summer the Dead came back to Omaha, Ne. on 7-5-78, and I taped them with my NAK 550 in FOB, and followed them to their/my first Red Rocks shows. What a run! So that is my story, Jerry Garcia was totally gracious, engaging, enthusiastic, and kind to a deadhead who approached him at one moment in time. I know, I repeat myself, such is my lot in life at this juncture, but thought I would 'complete the circle' of this story. See furthur down the thread for my account of these shows when Jerry did bring the boys back to NE (after KC and St. Paul) and then their (and my) maiden voyage at Red Rocks. I don't recall if I ever shared that Bob Weir had taken to wearing a full-head Werewolf mask when the band came out to encore with Werewolves of London. I remember seeing that mask in Chicago, and several other 1978 shows, St. Paul? Red Rocks? It was hilarious as he struggled to see/play/sing and the other guys goofing off him (Kinda like the boys in masks playing Big Boss Man cica 1972 in Europe). Not easy to do, but he was a pretty funny visual and really got us all into howling 'aaahoooooo' back to the band and Bobby. Hey Deadicated, wasn't Bobby wearing that mask in St. Paul? Didn't someone shoot off a firecracker in the hall during that show? Or maybe I just had a synapse....;o} Anyway, sorry for the repeat, but 'looks like the old man is getting on'.. And may you all get those shows you want and/or attended released soon complete with the Plantagenet treatment/process in the near future! This set shows it obviously CAN happen. I am taken aback. "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it is what I know for sure, that ain't so". -Mark Twain
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    I've never met anybody. Once walking in NYC with a group, everyone turned around looking and I was like, "what?",,, everybody was that was Dave Winfield. I think that was the name big baseball player in the day. Walked right past him, never saw him. Closest I've ever came to meeting a celeb.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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Whether I like or love Seastones can't quite be answered objectively. I love that it exists. I love that someone was so weird that they made music like that. I love that it sometimes gets included as part of the archival releases. I pay attention to it whenever it reaches my ears. It doesn't have the same power that certain other music has, and I'm not particularly emotionally moved by it. It's more of a well appreciated sonic curio to me.
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No matter what noise..."that which listens" is inexhaustibly silent...as a matter of fact, any noise one hears "points to" the inner-hearer, wherein the gate (that is) goal transcends illusory ego: one's vessel of transparency.
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Loving the box set so far. Just wondering if everyone else has the intro cut from sugaree on 7/5. Mine starts out in middle of 1st verse. Thanks.
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I can't think of single 78 show that doesn't give me wood. January 78s that I have heard rock February is immortalized on DiP April 78 is complete potency May is something I have little of but still like JuneJulyAugust RRRROOOOOAAAAARRRR September is freakin' Egypt October is Winterland NovemberDecember is chockfulla goodies No sir, I don't understand the 78 detractors. repetitive set lists? bah. GD78 is cool.
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Mine starts off the same way. Guessing that's how it is on the source tape.
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....then yes Bob. Yes I did. Sat on my ass all day and listened to the best birthday present I could think of. Thanks Dave, Jeff, Betty and the boyz for my gift. Now, where did I put those ribs?....Oh yeah.... ....today won't be so lazy. Honey do's are calling my name....
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....with only the hallowed 7.8 show left to play, I realized that if I attempted that, I would be typing all day, so I'll post what I don't like. The St. Paul Deal. That is about all for now....I doubt 7.8 will change that very short list.... ...even Mrs. Vguy took note. She said, and I quote, "Sounds like someone put a burr under their saddle." Truer words have never been spoken. A few days ago I posted that DaP 18 is not a show to play if you're planning on cleaning house. After this release, I believe we have the cleanest house on the block. Musical crack....
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....Simon & Garfunkel's Wednesday Morning, 3AM....also good dusting music....you all know I talk a lot, especially during a current release. I've been talking a lot this past year....Thank You dead.net....did you know Wednesday Morning has their take on Peggy-O and The Times They Are A-Changin'? Well, now you do....
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Yep, Sugaree on 7/5 comes in drums only as the boys on the boards dialed in Jer's vocals and guitar, plus everyone else. To my ears and sensibilities, the first show in this box is one rockin' show from start to end and I enjoyed it immensely. Not to complain, cuz he has stopped doing it, but Bob's slide guitar on 7/5 is just plain shit and it ruins a number of Jer's tunes. Jer musta been one gracious player to not tell Bob to cut it out. Not only is Bob's slide playing quite amateurish -- I mean, I can play slide a lot better than that and that's not saying much -- but his tone is too close to Jer's vocal tone to not interfere. Okay, said it. Otherwise, the Bobby tunes are pretty effin' hot, as he properly returns to rhythm guitar. So, still have the 7/3 show to listen to, then going to communally enjoy the two Rocks shows with others who, like me, were there. (Gonna break out the 25% THC Indica for those...) Knowing how great those two shows are, at least 3 of 5 shows will be stand outs. If 7/3 is killer, that's 4 for 5 -- a damn good value for the money. Hell, I'd a paid handsomely just for the two Rocks shows, so besides bitching about Bob's slide "work," I'm a happy camper. Speculating on DaP 19: seems Dave said something about "doing something we haven't done before." Did I hear that correctly? If so, I'm betting that he has (3) full single-disc sets from 1969 or 1970 from returned tapes. As we know from the 2/69 opening sets for Janis, the boys sometimes had to bust it up for 75-80 minute sets, maybe in early/late show formats. If Dave knows for sure that an ~80-minute set is one full performance, he could do (3) shows in one DaP. Call it "premature speculation," but I'm seeing a doctor to see if I need to take something.....
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....love the use of that song in The Watchmen intro. https://youtu.be/aVUDdQS2UxA ....underrated movie, awesome use of the song. If you know Watchmen, you know the theme. If you don't, check it out.... ....Hendrixfreak. 25% huh? I'm coming over. Super jealous that you were there. Who knows, maybe you and oroboros were dancing next to each other. I personally listen past Bobby's slide work. It's not easy, but it's possible....
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Drivin that train High on cocaine Grateful Dead you'd better watch your speed Trouble ahead
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I couldn't help but think that Jerry was thinking of Bob's slide playing during the 7/7 Candyman when he sang, "If I had me a shotgun, I'd PROBABLY blow you straight to hell!" Was he looking over at Weir?
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Certainly, in my mind, BW is the best rhythm player in a rock band ever -- shoulda, coulda, woulda said that in my initial shocking post -- and he had to be a giant to anticipate Jer and Phil and weave them together in a sometimes nuanced, sometimes powerful way. But the slide? Meh! Blair Jackson even asked him face-to-face one time whether he was "embarrassed to learn slide onstage." Which was generous, considering that I never heard any progress per se. Bobby said, "No." All righty then! So, just to balance it all out, we always thought from the very earliest shows (fall 1972) onward that old Bobbo was the rockiest rocker ever and so when I say his slide playing has always been atrocious -- both in phrasing and tone -- I ... say it ... with ... love!!! And Vguy72, yes, horticultural science here in the Rockies has really become somewhat hazardous! Two tokes, max, at any given time or you're in the clinch! And that requires some training. So if you show up at, say, a Red Rocks show, DO NOT TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THE KIDS!!! They're in deep on the training front... Edit: and thanks One Man! You get it. Although that's a pretty respectable Candyman, given the circumstances!
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....Simon & Garfunkel. My late Dad used to play this over and over. He died in a car crash when I was two. But I remember this....thanks Dad....followed by Cecilia. The ying to Condor's yang. Celebration!....
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Some talk about Bobby's slide and rhythm playing. Clearly not a slide guy. But personally,I don't believe rhythm guitar play is the strength that Bobby brought to the Dead. I believe his song writing accomplishments, his singing voice, and his stage prowess is what made Bobby a vital asset to the Grateful Dead. Bobby was adept with his instrument, but he wasn't really a rhythm player. His guitar role in the Dead was largely that of a "utility" player, augmenting the music as needed. He had some hot years as a rhythm player in his prime ('71 - '74), but beyond that, most of what he played wouldn't even be considered rhythm guitar playing in the classic sense of the role (i.e. he played a lot of off-beat fills, and little flourishes in the unnocupied space between the other musicians). Keith actually played more rhythm than Bobby, especially in the post-hiatus years, when Bobby got away from the traditional rhythm player role (heck, by then, even Jerry was probably playing more rhythm than Bobby). I'm not saying Bobby wasn't the shit, I'm just saying it's kind of inaccurate to label him the best rhythm player of all time, as that was not his primary role, and to compare him to rhythm greats like Townshend, Lifeson, and Richards is like apples and oranges. If anything, Bobby developed into one of the most unique auxiliary players any band has bred, which I think is a greater compliment.
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Good way to put it, Vguy (happy birthday!!). Here's exhibit A (CC Rider): https://archive.org/details/gd1982-12-31.sbd.miller.77301.sbeok.flac16 Bobby's slide starts in around the 5:35 mark, hangs together quite well until it ultimately goes right in the crapper around 6:05. But then listen to the fat line Jerry's laying down in the background, finally emerging into a kick-butt solo around 6:38, triumphantly salvaging what could have been a disastrous effort by the band. By the way, the Cumberland that follows is an all-timer. Play it loud!
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I don't have anything to contribute at this time, as usual. Just some random musings: a) love everyone's comments on the new set, you're all great and would love to hear more critical comparisons of the shows. b) I am now hungry and also want Walkerswood chicken. Also, I hate coincidences. c) Bought Festival Express a few years ago exclusively as a Band fan. Always dug this one before I knew anything about the Dead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp1MiIq9RQ8 d) Unrelated, was surprised to hear an easy listening female cover of The Weight in a commercial for Country Inn & Suites today. That was a weird feeling, did anyone else see that?? We're Ready to believe you. e) Happy (belated) Birthday Vguy!! Keep on keeping on in the Days of 49, ahem, 48. f) A donut, with no hole, is a Danish.
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And in that hole he roared out his soul, in the days of 49.
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I ran into this artist and want to toss her in front of you. She's a singer songwriter who travels with her husband who plays guitar with her. They travel all over the nation and live in their van full time! For my money she is amazing, and I've heard many a singer.Her name is. Nikki Talley. Check her out @ www.nikkitalley.com Her music page has her new album up to listen to. Every track, all the way. I kid you not, she's a very talented artist and I honestly think most of you will really like her sound. With that I'm off to the wilderness for a week of soul purging communion with our Mother Earth!
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Has anyone else noticed an issue with the middle of the case or 2nd disc holder as if the machine had a problem incerting the disc. There is a small scrape on each side of the hole with some small residue on a couple of the discs. Luckily played 3 of the shows with no problem on the discs in question
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I should add that Weir plays some of my fave guitar lines (call them what you will) in places like the China>Rider transition (1972-1974), Easy Wind (usually), and Hard to Handle (sometimes). That odd chording-mixed-with-single-notes style he used on those tunes is thrilling. I don't know why he stopped doing it.
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My favorite Weir contributions are when he's playing his Gibson wide body, about the same period you mention, One Man. Good stuff.
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I contacted customer service concerning my missing disc (Disc 1 July 3rd St. Paul).They sent me an email stating the supervisor emailed Dr. Rhino on my missing disc and that they will get a disc out in the mail to complete my set. Unfortunately, they cannot advise when it should arrive. I have not dealt with customer service in a long time. Should I give them the benefit of the doubt or contact Dr. Rhino myself? On a side note, the taper section this week is something to check out.
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So what are the chances Betty had the missing 75 show from Winterland? That would be an really cool DaP.
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Absolutely amazing...On the 2nd show already... and I'm blown away. AWESOME stuff here. Loving this box set. Next to Fillmore 69, it may be my favorite. ... check the Thank You's in the liner notes... to all who donated to my firetruck pull.... notice the last thank you, to Chuck Harris... that's who we were pulling for! woohoo! go chuck!
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Our 30 Trips box had a cracked disc 3 1990, but we didn't notice until months after it arrived. In Feb, March and April we contacted customer service and got cordial but inconclusive treatment -- i.e., no replacement disc in the mail. Finally, the fourth person we spoke to 'elevated' the request or some such term and the Dr. got involved. Disc arr'd shortly thereafter. I'd say get right in touch with the Dr.
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Yes, also love Bobby in China Cat, at I think the same spot you're talking about. Also love his slide playing on Stagger Lee, Closing Of Winterland - he got it right on that one! His guitar sounds very different in the late 70s, not sure what accounts for it. Sounds like some kind of mild flange effect, with high midrange, low distortion. Just guessing. Would love to know how he achieves it.
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Happy to see that everyone is enjoying this box as much as I am! The sound quality here is just amazing in my view. I have been having fun listening to these at home and in the car. I went right for 7/7 the other night - really nice. Spent a couple of days on 7/1, which I really enjoyed. Yesterday, I went for 7/3. To my ears, the band sounds on during the second set. In general its seems the band is really "on" during all of these shows. There are a lot of nice little unique nuances and riffs in the version of many of these tunes. Last night I was able to get a nice listening state of mind and put on the headphones - post drums 7/3. Wow! What a Stella. That whole post drums set really rocked me. Show sounds so good on the headphones - true ear candy. I'm psyched to dive into these shows this summer. 7/8/78 was THE tape for me back in the 90s that really drew me into the Dead's music. I'm saving that one and can't wait. Thank you to everyone who brought us this music.
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8/27/7212/31/76 5/2/70 July 78 12/31/78 Winterland 74 Rockin' the Rhein Stepping out with the GD Fillmore East 71 3/28/73 I love everything else, of course; these stand out to me as truly special.
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Stoltzfus I like your list, those are some of my goto shows. No coincidence that a lot of them are multi-tracks (while two track is technically multi-track, Producers coloquially use the term multi-track in reference to 4+ tracks). But my point is, I tend to put the better sounding shows higher on my list, and multi-tracks inevitably sound better. That being said, your pick I REALLY like is 3/28/73. I thought this DaP 16 show was really really hot, but my recollection is that a lot of folks just found it to be average.
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Without going into "show by show" and "song by song" critical analysis mode, this is a very strong run of shows for '78. I like that Phil is up in the mix for much of the first show. The Dead were just starting to tap into the higher energy approach and musical muscle that they would perfect in the '80s, especially the period when Jerry briefly became sober. I acquired the board recording of 7/8 many years ago, and that was good quality. This version surpasses that one. I don't mind Bob's slide playing most of the time, even though he would occasionally go overboard with it. For me, it doesn't detract from the rest of what's going on in the music. I can't say the same for the bulk of Donna's contributions here though. There are moments where she reigns it in decently enough like she did in '76 and '77, but all too often, she over-sings and ruins what are otherwise awesome moments. In hindsight, I really wish Jerry or Phil would have stepped-up into band leader mode and made her listen back to her performances after the shows. All too often, to my ears, her voice distracts from the awesomeness going on around her. It reminds me of an episode of Family Guy where Peter and Lois Griffin find Brian's bag of weed and decide to put their folk duo back together. In their stoned minds they thought what they were doing sounded awesome, then they show the audiences perspective and all they were doing is falling all over each other while moaning and drooling. Donna's voice can be like fingernails on a chalkboard at times for me, yet beautiful when she stays disciplined like the Spring and May '77 run. End of Donna bashing tirade... Otherwise, I think this is a very cool set with some inspired performances. The artwork and package design is another winner.
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I made it through a couple of listens to 7-1 over the weekend. I agree with the general sentiment; very energetic despite some vocal miscues. The sound is fantastic, especially at LOUD volumes, but i did notice that bit of vocal distortion at high volume too. Is that distortion something the house heard? Or was it due to Betty's mix? Is it possible to tell? It doesn't diminish the quality or enjoyability of the show, I was just wondering. I plan to spin 7-3 tonight for a first go. Slow and steady wins the race for me. On the 30 trips front I've listened to everything except '95. Just can't bring myself to for some reason. It'll happen eventually. I was positively surprised by '92 - '94 though. I don't listen to that era much, but there were some great moments. Between 30 trips, July '78, and the Dave's picks there's a lot to digest right now. But i'm having a great time trying.
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....Day of the Dead 5 disc set. Did anyone else order one of those?....
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I feel the exact opposite: I don't mind Donna oversinging, because she does not sing over Jerry's solos(with the possible exception of Scarlet). On the other hand, Bob plays(out of tune) over Jerry's leads and while he's doing that, he's not holding the rhythm.Examples abound: Going Down the Road from the '78 30 Trips box, or even worse Sugaree from 12/28/79...Jerry's playing his heart out, while Bobby's ruining the whole feel of the jam. For a while I though he was tone-deaf, how could he not hear how off-key he played??
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Agree with Spacebro about one aspect of Donna's vocals in these shows. I love Donna, but there are three distinct elements to her vocal performances in these shows that creep up and detract from time to time: 1) She is over-utilized. I prefer when she did not sing on every track. Back in the early days, she used to come out for certain songs, and then retire for large parts of the show. Back in the Europe '72 days, she had her spots: Playing in the Band; Greatest Story Ever Told; Sing Me Back Home; Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad; later on in '73 / '74, she would come out for Weather Report Suite. You get the picture - she was utilized selectively. There was a truckload of songs she did not sing on, even though she was present at the show: Sugar Magnolia, Ramble On Rose, Deal, Uncle John's Band, Not Fade Away, and many many more. In contrast, by 1978, she was on-stage full time, singing on every track. All of the songs I mentioned above, I personally prefer the non-Donna versions from the early 70s. But this is only part of the story with her vocals, and this is where observation #2 comes in. 2) She is TOO HIGH IN THE MIX! There are performances in this box set, Cassidy for example, where she normally sounds very good, but is so high in the mix on these July '78 versions that it doesn't sound great. You take April 24 in Normal (just a couple months earlier) and we have a mix where she is balanced with Bobby, and they sound great. Same goes for her lead vocal in The Music Never Stops - these were performances I was anticipating enthusiastically, because she blew the door off the hinges in previous '77 / '78 versions. Too much volume, though, detracts from the performance. I also hear the typically smooth balance of Donna / Bobby and Donna / Jerry lacking on a lot of these songs, where it was intact in other releases from roughly the same period. It is important to note that this may not have even been an issue onstage at the show. Depending on how loud their stage monitors were, it may well HAVE sounded good to them. You'll notice she always sounds best on recordings derived from 16-reel Multi-track, because she has her own track that Norman can adjust volume on and mix properly into the final version we hear. And you can't really hold Betty accountable, because, while it is she who mixes them at the board (and subsequently the tape), the only thing that matters at the time of the show is how they sound to each other through the stage monitors, and how they sound over the PA to the audience. Volume was a very difficult thing to manage in the old analog days, and I think in this case, it's illustrated for us the limitations of two-track recording. 3) As Spacebro mentioned, she's a little bit too aggressive with the screams and oooh/aaaahs and other vocalization noises. I guess they all did this a bit more in '78, and that's one of the distinctions in this year of "loose more rockin' Dead". I think all of these things could have been worked out without (and some were), but it seems in the end there was some insurmountable conflict in the band as a whole, sooo.....circle the wagons boys.... I should also note - none of this makes or breaks a show for me personally, or even a song - it's more like a "well, if I had the fine tuning knob of history at my finger tips, what would I do" Cousins - LOL - funny comment about tone-deaf Bobby.
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Decided to give the Strand lyceum 5/23/72 show a spin and Donna's contributions are just about perfect in contrast to her ad libs in July '78. Wow, what a great show... Oddly enough, I've almost completely neglected the 4 Strand Lyceum '72 shows since getting the steamer trunk box when it first came out. This is like a brand new show to me. I'll come right out and say that my personal favorite versions of "Good Lovin'" are from this tour. So many winners from E'72, that whenever I think I have a favorite show narrowed down, another one jumps out at me. Like the 30 Trips box, E'72 is the box that keeps on giving.
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5/23 Dark Star wrapping up and slipping into Dew, but not before giving way to a glistening groove with Jerrys twinkling arpeggios floating along on a jazzy wave. Quiet contemplative space midway broke into a full on meltdown that though cachophonic in structure, or lack thereof, was held together by the psychic mind-meld that ruled over it all...Walk me out... Moving on to DaP4, radically different than 18. Jerry out front taking chances...
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Keithfan, I'm with you on DJG over-utilization and excessive level in the mix. However, Betty typically had a dedicated recording board with which she could make her very own mix, independent of the house or monitors. Some kind of splitter device sent her a separate signal from each of the various mics on stage. As an aside -- during 1977 (at least) she apparently also had her own reverb unit. So she could have lowered the "backing vocals" to a more tolerable level, but for some reason chose not to. Maybe she was making a point! Remember, these tapes were for the band and crew, and never meant for release to the public. That said, I find the mixes in this box pretty good for what they are (live to 2-track, and not intended for release). They are kind of muddy at times. I was noticing very little cymbal sound in Set 2 of the first Red Rocks show. I like some of the 1977 Betty mixes better.
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....so I'm home, watching the Marlins/Rays baseball game. My Marlins are mounting a comeback. Before commercial break, the announcer says "The Wheel is turning. Tampa may need some luck to slow them down." I still can't make this stuff up. Miami just took the lead btw....
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Didn't know Bill Walton did baseball too...
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Speaking (benevolently) of Random Mutants...
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the wife simply can't understand, and gets a little upset when I sing certain lyrics too authentically. Heh, I can't help it honey. I am a dying breed, who spent way too much time down on Avenue D back in the day. Just be happy I survived to reminisce, even though it's really not something to reminisce about, I'll give you that. Soon, no one will know what they meant. It simply won't be in anyone's memory.
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Which I love, but is for those California folks to commiserate with first hand...I'll love it from afar ;)
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I got my one show at red rocks today, I listened to the first set thru my stereo ,Very enjoyable set, The wolf sounds great. Does anyone know What kind of guitar Bob is playing in the picture, it looks a lot like an Irwin, but I know He was playing mostly custom Ibanezs then. One Man, you are very right, why did Weir go from playing lead notes with chords to playing straight chords. This is the first Cd that I really notice it. I hope they can get more of the Betty Boards back that she had to auction away. Some of the problems with the quality may be that these tapes the Dead bought back were in really bad shape, they had to do a lot of work on them to get them usable.
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Agree she is high in the mix and very noticeable throughout...and to my ears that's really great. I love the energy she brings and think it's right at home in the unruly 1978 sound. Loving this release more and more everyday. Thank you Dave!
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