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    yeah
    what a bummer, but what a cool guy. We were lucky to have him.
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    .......Warren Hellman
    http://www.baycitizen.org/obituaries/story/warren-hellman-dies-77/1/
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    Hitchens quote
    one of his best (for me anyway) "The only position that leaves me with no cognitive dissonance is atheism. It is not a creed. Death is certain, replacing both the siren-song of Paradise and the dread of Hell. Life on this earth, with all its mystery and beauty and pain, is then to be lived far more intensely: we stumble and get up, we are sad, confident, insecure, feel loneliness and joy and love. There is nothing more; but I want nothing more."
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    yes, i was about to post Christopher's obituary when i suddenly saw your mention.the interview he did with Jeremy Paxman was very moving. this is his obituary in The Guardian by Peter Wilby - For most of his career, Christopher Hitchens, who has died of oesophageal cancer aged 62, was the left's biggest journalistic star, writing and broadcasting with wit, style and originality in a period when such qualities were in short supply among those of similar political persuasion. Nobody else spoke with such confidence and passion for what Americans called "liberalism" and Hitchens (regarding "liberal" as too "evasive") called "socialism". His targets were the abusers of power, particularly Henry Kissinger (whom he tried to bring to trial for his role in bombing Cambodia and overthrowing the Allende regime in Chile) and Bill Clinton. He was unrelenting in his support for the Palestinian cause and his excoriation of America's projections of power in Asia and Latin America. He was a polemicist rather than an analyst or political thinker – his headteacher at the Leys school in Cambridge presciently forecast a future as a pamphleteer – and, like all the best polemicists, brought to his work outstanding skills of reporting and observation. To these, he added wide reading, not always worn lightly, an extraordinary memory – he seemed, his friend Ian McEwan observed, to enjoy "instant neurological recall" of anything he had ever read or heard – and a vigorous, if sometimes pompous writing style, heavily laden with adjectives, elegantly looping sub-clauses and archaic phrases such as "allow me to inform you". His socialism was always essentially internationalist, particularly since the British working classes responded sluggishly to literature he handed out at factory gates for the International Socialists, a Trotskyist group of which he was a member from 1966 to 1976. He had little interest in social or economic policy and, in later life, seemed somewhat bemused at questions about his three children being educated privately. Hitchens travelled widely as a young man, often at his own expense, visiting, for example, Poland, Portugal, Czechoslovakia and Argentina at crucial moments in their anti-totalitarian struggles, offering fraternal solidarity and parcels of blue jeans. Later, he rarely wrote at length about any country without visiting it, sometimes at risk of arrest or physical attack. His loathing of tyranny was consistent: unlike many of the 1960s generation, he never harboured illusions about Mao or Castro. His concerns grew about the left's selective tolerance for totalitarian regimes – as early as 1983, he ruffled "comrades" by supporting Margaret Thatcher's war against General Leopoldo Galtieri's Argentina – but they did not initially threaten a rupture in his political loyalties. After the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington in 2001, however, Hitchens announced he was no longer on the left – while denying he had become any kind of conservative – and "swore a sort of oath to remain coldly furious" until "fascism with an Islamic face" was "brought to a most strict and merciless account". To the horror of former allies, he accepted invitations to the George W Bush White House; embraced the deputy defence secretary and Iraq war hawk Paul Wolfowitz as a friend ("they were finishing each other's sentences", was one account of an early meeting); and resigned from the Nation, America's foremost leftwing weekly. In 2007, after living in the US for more than 25 years, he took out American citizenship in a ceremony presided over by Bush's head of homeland security. Long friendships with the aristocracy of the Anglo-American left – Noam Chomsky, Tariq Ali, Alexander Cockburn, Edward Said – ended in harsh exchanges. Gore Vidal once named Hitchens as his inheritor or dauphin. The relevant quotation appeared on the dustjacket of Hitch-22, Hitchens's memoir published in 2010, but was overlain by a red cross with "no, CH" inscribed beside it. Hitchens was born in Portsmouth to parents of humble origins who progressed to the fringes of what George Orwell (a Hitchens role-model) would have termed the lower-upper-middle-classes. His father was a naval commander of "flinty and adamant" Tory views who became a school bursar. Father and son were never close; Christopher and his younger brother, Peter. The first love of Hitchens's life was his mother, "the cream in the coffee, the gin in the Campari". She insisted (at least according to Hitchens) he should go to boarding school because "if there is going to be an upper class in this country, then Christopher is going to be in it". He was already a Labour supporter at school, organising the party's "campaign" in a mock election, and joining a CND march from Aldermaston. At Balliol College, Oxford, where he read philosophy, politics, and economics, he "rehearsed", as he put it, for 1968. But he led a curiously dualistic life. By day, "Chris" addressed car workers through a bullhorn on an upturned milk crate while by night "Christopher" wore a dinner jacket to address the Oxford Union or dine with the warden of All Souls. (He did not, in fact, like being called "Chris" – his mother would not, he explained, wish her firstborn to be addressed "as if he were a taxi-driver or pothole-filler" – and found "Hitch", which most friends used, more acceptable.) While not exactly a social climber, Hitchens wished to be on intimate terms with important people. Equally dualistic was his sex life. He was almost expelled from school for homosexuality and later boasted that at Oxford he slept with two future (male) Tory cabinet ministers. But also at Oxford, he lost his virginity to a girl who had pictures of him plastered over her bedroom wall and he eventually became a dedicated heterosexual because, he said, his looks deteriorated to the point where no man would have him. The "double life", as he called it, continued after he left university with a third-class degree – he was too busy with politics to bother much with studying – and found, partly through his Oxford friend James Fenton, a berth at the New Statesman. He supplemented his income by writing for several Fleet Street newspapers, but also contributed gratis to the Socialist Worker. It was while working for the Statesman that he experienced a "howling, lacerating moment in my life": the death of his adored mother in Athens, apparently in a suicide pact with her lover, a lapsed priest. Only years later did he learn what she never told him or perhaps anyone else: that she came from a family of east European Jews. Though his brother – who first discovered their mother's origins – said this made them only one-32nd Jewish, Hitchens declared himself a Jew according to the custom of matrilineal descent. Later in the 1970s, Hitchens became a familiar Fleet Street figure, disporting himself in bars and restaurants and settling into a literary set that included Fenton, Martin Amis, Julian Barnes, Clive James and others. It specialised in long lunches and what (to others) seemed puerile and frequently obscene word games. But he was hooked on America as a 21-year-old when he visited on a student visa and tried unsuccessfully to get a work permit. In October 1981, on a half-promise of work from the Nation, he left for the US. It was the making of his career: Americans have always had a weakness for plummy voiced, somewhat raffish Englishmen who pepper their writing and conversation with literary and historical allusions. He became the Nation's Washington correspondent, contributing editor of Vanity Fair from 1982, literary essayist for Atlantic Monthly, a frequent contributor to the New York Review of Books and a talking head on innumerable cable TV shows. He authored 11 books, co-authored six more, and had five collections of essays published. The targets included Kissinger, Clinton and Mother Teresa ("a thieving fanatical Albanian dwarf"); his books on Orwell, Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine were more positive, and less widely noticed. His most successful book, which brought him international fame beyond what Susan Sontag called "the small world of those who till the field of ideas", was God Is Not Great, a mocking indictment of religion which put him alongside Richard Dawkins as a leading enemy of the devout. Hitchens was also, to his great pleasure, a liberal studies professor at the New School in New York and, for a time, visiting professor at Berkeley in California, as well as a regular on the public lecture and debate circuit. Hitchens loved what he called "disputation" – there was little difference between his public and private speaking styles – and America, a more oral culture than Britain's, offered ample opportunity. When his final break with the left came, it seemed to some as though the pope had announced he was no longer a Catholic. His support for Bush's war in Iraq – which he never retracted – and his vote for the president in 2004, were even bigger shocks, and some suspected a psychological need, as the first male Hitchens never to wear uniform, to prove his manhood. But Hitchens, in many respects a traditionalist, was never a straightforward lefty. He abstained in the UK's 1979 election, admitting he secretly favoured Thatcher and hoped for an end to "mediocrity and torpor". The Ayatollah Khomeini's fatwa, issued in 1989 against his friend Salman Rushdie, was, in Hitchens's mind, as important in exposing the left's "bad faith" as 9/11. He supported, albeit belatedly, the first Gulf war, demanded Nato intervention in Bosnia, and refused to sign petitions against sanctions on Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Hitchens, though, did not deny he had changed. He became, if truth be told, a bit of a blimp and ruefully remarked – with the quiet self-irony that often underlay his bombastic style – that he sometimes felt he should carry "some sort of rectal thermometer, with which to test the rate at which I am becoming an old fart". But, he insisted, he wasn't making a complete about-turn. Though no longer a socialist, he was still a Marxist, and an admirer of Lenin, Trotsky and Che Guevera; capitalism, the transforming powers of which Marx recognised, had proved the more revolutionary economic system and, politically, the American revolution was the only one left in town. He remained committed to civil liberties. After voluntarily undergoing waterboarding, he denounced it as torture, and he was a plaintiff in a lawsuit against Bush's domestic spying programme. He never let up in his "cold, steady hatred … as sustaining to me as any love" of all religions. Other things were unchanging. Hitchens's life was full of feuds with old friends. He broke with the Clinton aide Sidney Blumenthal who, before a congressional committee, denied spreading calumnies about Monica Lewinsky. Hitchens, earning himself the sobriquet "Snitchens", signed affidavits testifying that Blumenthal had, in his hearing, indeed smeared the president's lover. His rightwing brother, Peter, also a journalist, was put on non-speakers for several years after revealing a pro-red joke that Christopher once made in private. But his friendship with Amis never wavered. "Martin … means everything to me," he once said, while "more or less" acquitting himself of carnal desire. Amis, in turn, spoke of "a love whose month is ever May" and described his friend as a rhetorician of such distinction that "in debate, no matter what the motion, I would back him against Cicero, against Demosthenes". Hitchens's love affairs with alcohol and tobacco were equally constant. He smoked heavily, even on public occasions and even on TV, long after the habit – for everyone else – became unacceptable. Despite reports in 2008 that he had given up, a reporter found him getting through two packets of cigarettes in a morning in May 2010. As for alcohol, he drank daily, on his own admission, enough "to kill or stun the average mule". Technically, he was probably an alcoholic but, he pointed out, he never missed deadlines or appointments. Regardless of condition, he wrote fast and fluently, if with erratic punctuation. Only rarely did alcohol make him a bore, blunt his wit or cloud his arguments. The journalist Lynn Barber rated him "one of the greatest conversationalists of our age". Inebriated or sober, he could charm almost anybody. He could also, with what the New Yorker's Ian Parker called "the sudden, cutthroat withdrawal of charm", wound deeply and unnecessarily. In the summer of 2010, during a promotional tour for Hitch-22, he was diagnosed with terminal oesophageal cancer, a disease that had killed his father at a much more advanced age. He inhabited "Tumourville", as he called it, with rueful wit and little self-pity. "In whatever kind of a 'race' life may be," he wrote, "I have abruptly become a finalist." In the same Vanity Fair article, he observed that "I have been taunting the Reaper into taking a free scythe in my direction and have now succumbed to something so predictable and banal that it bores even me". But he never repented of his convivial lifestyle – on the contrary, he continued to take his beloved whisky, having received no medical instructions to the contrary – and nor did he turn his rhetorical skills to persuading others to eschew his example, confining himself, in a TV interview, to the observation that "if you can hold it down on the smokes and cocktails, you may be well advised to do so". He continued, as well as giving valedictory newspaper and magazine interviews, to write, broadcast and participate in public debates with no discernible diminution of vigour or passion. He confronted the Catholic convert Tony Blair before an audience of 2,700 in Toronto and, by general consent, won with ease. He gave early notice that there would be no deathbed conversion to religion. If we ever heard of such a thing, he advised, we should attribute it to sickness, dementia or drugs. When believers prayed for him, he politely declared himself touched, but resolute in his atheism. He was as severe with the conventional cliches of terminal illness as he was, throughout his life, with any other form of convention. "To the dumb question 'Why me?'," he wrote, "the cosmos barely bothers to return the reply, 'Why not?'" All the same, his many friends and admirers, who do not, as one of them put it, "relish a world without Hitchens", will be asking "why him?" today. Hitchens was married, first, to Eleni Meleagrou, a Greek Cypriot, and then, after they divorced, to Carol Blue, an American screenwriter. Both survive him, as do one son and two daughters. • Christopher Eric Hitchens, journalist, born 13 April 1949; died 15 December 2011
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    Writer, journalist, clever guy, trouble maker and author of the brilliantly argued and higly entertaining book 'God is not Great. How Religion Poisons Everything'.
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    Sumlin R.I.P.
    Passing of a great man. Can't listen to Jerry and Pig do Smokestack Lightning without thinking of this man. Just saw him last month at the Wellmont in NJ when he did a walk on during an Elvis Costello show. Might have been his last public performance for all I know. Some vids on You Tube if anyone is interested. Anyway, he is in a better place I am sure.
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    Bummed Out....
    http://www.austin360.com/music/dan-bee-spears-willie-nelsons-bassist-di…
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    so sorry, Tx
    many good thoughts to you and your sister. And thanks for the heads up re the Positive Vibes topic; the old one seems to still be there but the new one seems to have vanished, so hey, I just started a new one so we won't have that problem.
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    A Callout for a Little More Positive energy..
    ... for my dear sister.I attempted to post this in the Positive Vibes thread and saw that it was locked, redirecting to what appears to be a music vine, so, since I've shared my pain here thus far, I thought I would post this here. Marye, please feel free to move it to a more appropriate location; I just felt a bit disrespectful of my sis to post this in a music vine. I don't know if it is better for me for what is about to happen next to happen so soon or if I should heal a little more before it occurs, but my older sister, who has claim to be among those who made the California migration of the sixties, who found deep disappointment in the Haight (long spoiled by '68 when she made the journey) and went on to Carmel to join a commune (ultimately becoming a wharf rat herself, whose only addiction now happens to be what is killing her, tobacco), who is one of the largest influence on my own views of the universe as well as introducing me to the Dead, has recently been diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. I will be making the trek to Orlando to be by her side at x-mas. While this is very poor timing for me, for me to even entertain that thought is only selfishness coming through. I am trying to approach it as a true test of how to define the remainder of my own time here, and will be reaching deeper than I have ever before to find the strength to accept what is happening, because there is nothing I can do to change it but plea my case to the universe. I am humbling asking for those reading this to send some positive thoughts and energy her way to ease her passage. Fortunately, her life experiences have given her a very positive attitude to her situation, but she is still suffering physical pain, as well as the understandable uncertainty of just what lies ahead for her. Thank you.
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    Thanks for all of the positive energy...
    ... it is very much felt and appreciated. One of the lessons that she left me with is that the universe is so full of magic, even amongst all of the pain and suffering... all we have to do is open ourselves to the possibilities, and she showed me how to achieve such acceptance. Such simple words, such profound meaning. While I had intellectually been aware, it is one thing to be aware and another totally to experience, like so many things in each of our own little realities.I had experienced a few hard times - divorce, bankruptcy, deaths of friends and parents; nothing could have prepared me for this. It feels like someone has reached into my chest and ripped half of my heart away, leaving a numb ball to heal itself with the salve of time, and acceptance that all is actually fine. Death, after all, is the price of life, and it is much worse to die without appreciating life, than it is to die knowing that you are only continuing your journey. Unfortunately, I have another major loss approaching, and I will be posting in the Positive Vibes thread to ask for energy to be sent to my sister to ease her journey. Thanks again so much for being such a wonderful, loving community, one which is a beacon of hope and promise, acceptance and experience; I feel honored to have been shown and to be accepted among you. Namaste.
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You know in his autobiography "A Reporters Life" Cronkite mentions "it was louder than the drums at a Grateful Dead concert" I always wondered how he would know that. My kids and I met him once at Epcot it was very early in the morning on a very cold December day in 1985 and we were practically the only people in the exhibit about oil.He was being escorted by a guide and was kind enough to shake hands with my two boys and pose for a picture. And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Don't know what else to say, feel very sad. One truly honorable journalist is gone. ********************************** Education: that which reveals to the wise, and conceals from the stupid, the vast limits of their knowledge. Mark Twain
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Deacon Proudfoot, former President of the Oakland Hells Angels....died 7/4/09-he loved the Grateful Dead, had a production company in the 1980's that brought Willie & Waylon to the Bay Area..............John Collins Dawson IV..........early today 7/21/09, otherwise known amongst us as "Marmaduke" ............"Fare you well, fare you wellI love you more than words can tell"..............."Y' Know Death Don't Have No Mercy In This Land"........................................................
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Thanks for everything Marmaduke.
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for what you wrote above. This is such sad news.
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Marmaduke today! this is sad news, so sorry to hear this! and too for deacon proudfoot! thanks for the news GC.
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we're losing a lot of the good ones...
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Obit in the Miami Herald about John-I didn't know "Marmaduke" and John Dawson were one in the same. And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Solid body electric guitar inventor Les Paul died today from pneumonia complications. He was involved with Gibson guitars and multitrack recording.
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didn't he play in public recently?...sitting in with someone?
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to Les, without whom the world would be real different...
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No,no,no,!Such crimes can never be forgiven .Enough is more than enough about raping,stabbing, killing women the world over ,for centuries . Those who stay friends with such criminals are not my friends anymore . SO BE IT !!!
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I wonder if you ever imagined your creation would spawn such masterpieces as the ABB at Fillmore East, Blow By Blow, all Led Zeppelin, not to mention a tune or two by Jerry and Bobby and many, many more ... thank you, thank you, thank you. RIP " Where does the time go? "

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...RIP Les, it wouldn't have been the same without you... Les invented the electric guitar, and the process of multi-track recording. Leo Fender invented the solid-body guitar, think Fender Stratocaster here... Leo was a genius too, think of all the Fender Amps he invented... RIP Leo as well...
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You gave us so much!! Thank you!!
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Les Paul is one of the features on CBS this morning, 8/16, with a short tribute from Joe Walsh.
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a controversial politician due to his history, he did serve this country for over 40 years. the last of the kennedy brothers. no matter who's side yer on, pls take a moment to ask that his soul rest in peace
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for seeking and working to make our country and the world a better place. Your perserverance and determination is an inspiration. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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My sister Patty's birthday is tomorrow, she passed away from breast cancer 3 years ago on Oct 17th which is my birthday :(I miss her every minute of everyday, she was my best friend and we went to so many shows together! Now she dances with Jerry! I love you Patty♥ ☆~☆ ♥LOVE♥ღPattyღ♥LOVE♥ღღ☆~☆
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Happy Birthday Pig Pen -- we were going to visit you today after dinner, but discovered that they close the gates at 6:00 p.m. Babs Bergstrom still misses you and speaks very fondly of you. Eternal Peace, Brother ...
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Patrick Swayze, my role model in conference moderation...
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henry gibson at 73 years...wanna see my silver walnetto or very interesting... but stupid!
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waaaaaaalnetto......i still have the LP released from "rowan and martin's laugh-in"
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My best friend, little brother that made me happy for 10 full years had to depart us. He was a Japanese Spitz. I will never ever forget you and may you rest in peace, Tim!Love you always! Pregnancy Miracle
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you know he served in the navy?
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though that's all i have been able to find out.
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yeah, was what i was talking about. apparently, he did 'entertaining' over the PA on the boat.or did they call them 'ships' back then? ( -: peace.
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a traditional slang term...although submariners call their subs boats. the PA system is called "1MC"...and i have never figured out why, though i know the designations are broken down for different areas of the ship...1MC being shipwide. but now i've gotten away from the use of this forum.....rest in peace leonard "soupy sales" hines. i'll miss you and yer pies
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has a detailed breakdown of the various circuits and their positions in relation to the interior/exterior of the ship
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.......what will Whitefang andBlacktooth do now????? Many friends we have-many friends we have lost-along the way........Keep Smilin!!!!
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thought the Soupbone was really named Milton, his brother Lenny (Leonard) Supman; Hines was one Soupy's original stage names, though not his birth name. *** no matter, that which we call a Soupbone by any other name would still throw a pie in your face. ( -: peace.
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by the by, which of you pranksters will admit to actually sending Soupy cash when he asked the kiddies to swipe those pretty green papers with the presidents pics while their parents was sleeping and send them to him?
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he had 2 brothers, leonard and jack...and hines was a stage name. it was changed because it sounded too much like "heinz"
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Detroit / Michigan heads - and many heads everywhere - might know John Cox, owner of longtime Head shop Three Doors Down in Pontiac. He was stabbed to death on Thursday by some crackhead who couldn't have pulled more than $100 bucks out of the register there. I've been going to Three Doors Down since I was 13 and had to have my mom drive me there, and John himself is responsible for about 95% of my early Dead tape collection. He was surely instrumental in getting me on the Bus, but the main thing is that a kinder and gentler soul couldn't have existed. He probably would have given that crackhead the money if he had asked. Instead we've lost one of the real good ones, in one of the most ridiculous and senseless acts I've ever heard of. Rest in Peace, John, and have a real good time with Jerry.
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sorry for your and your region's losss. John sounds like a very good soul. Peace. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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so sorry to hear this. Condolences to all John's loved ones.
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to hear of your loss.....he sounded like a fine person.......yet another reason people need to be able to defend themselves against scum like the knucklehead that committed this foul act. the bastards can be found everywhere and they only care about their own selfish wants....may your friend rest in peace.
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Warm wishes to the families of those we lost to war . And many thank you`s to those who still fight for our freedom . Thank you ! Hopes for a very pleasent Vetrans day ! And also warm loving memories of Avanell Pelfrey , my wifes grandmother who we lost this past weekend . We`ll all miss you . Thank you .
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thought it was just a reccurring bout of anorexia these past couple of weeks, a thing my old lady suffered for years and years, she was always thin but the fuck if she kept the scerect of the cancer from me... and took her from me. RIP; Nao, may the four winds blow you safely home.