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    I think I have restored GRTUD's original post and removed the rest (thanks, GR), but if you're seeing something different let me know. The spam filter has really been acting up lately; sorry for the trouble.
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    there appears to be some difficulty with something in your previous posts triggering a spam filter or something. I'm working on disentangling the problem now. Stay tuned...
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    I'm having no luck with the remainder of my post. WTF? "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him."
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    Part I Just to clarify (and not contradict), Phil and his web site does not provide downloads but rather links to the sites where fans upload shows for others to download via FTP, peer to peer, via third party software, which is usually free (complicated? sounds worse than is, in reality). They do maintain a "store", which sells their stuff and music, as well. Maintaining a site to provide download material is not easy and can contain much liability and expense, I'm told. Bobby's site uses a 3rd party (with separate web site) for purchased downloads. I only point this out because my idea is that some folks here are under the wrong impression, regarding downloads, and where they really come from, either free or purchased. "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him."
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    Can't seem to post to this thread (mods may delete as necessary - thx).... "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him."
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    ...just to clarify (and not contradict), Phil and his web site does not provide downloads but rather links to the sites where fans upload shows for other fans to download via FTP, peer to peer, via third party software, which is usually free (complicated? sounds worse than reality). They do maintain a "store" of sorts, which sells their stuff and music, as well. Maintaining a site to provide download material is not easy and can contain much liability and expense. Bobby's site uses a 3rd party (with separate web site) for purchased downloads. I only point this out because my idea is that some folks here are under the wrong impression, regarding downloads, and where they really come from, either free or purchased. This comment contains no implication in regards to the ongoing arguments here at dead.net, pro or con, on the case now referred to as: Downloads (MP3's) - vs - Streaming; Tapers Section; Fans - vs - Fans - vs - Rhino - vs - Blackwater - vs - Freedom - vs - Profits - vs - Prophets. The Supreme Court is expected to hear arguments on accepting or rejecting arguments to allow the case to be presented for consideration but first must rule on arguments that any information contained in the case may present a threat to national security. Some insiders have indicated that The Court may first decriminalize marijuana so that they can get stoned (to-the-BeJesus) to relieve the mind numbing effects of having thousands of tie-dyed hippies, completely out of sync, argue for months, on the issue of which format is actually "Lossless" and more agreeable to current forms of home entertainment technology. We will report more as the facts are available. The Dude Abides!
  • marye
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    no problem!
    it's good that we were able to get the real story, which we wouldn't have if you hadn't raised the issue!
  • gypsy soul
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    i heard a rumor to that effect somewhere, but am glad to know the taping goes on. i should know better than to pay attention to the rumor mill. nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
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    Just heard back from JC again, after he'd talked to an actual taper. (JC has been rather mystified by the question to begin with, since he says no one else complained and Phil is passionate about getting the music out there, but said he'd look into it.) Bottom line: there WAS taping at the Greek; there was a taping section right behind the soundboard, much as in the olden days. Now true, there were scary signs at the entrances, but it would appear that tapers got their stuff through just fine. If you or someone you know had a different experience, please advise (or head over to phillesh.net and post the particulars, as I think they'd take a pretty lively interest in the matter). Thank you for raising the issue. JC and I haven't talked this much in years!
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    Inquiries are ongoing, but I got a response back from JC Juanis in the Phil camp. He says the no-taping thing is certainly news to him and that there was certainly taping going on in Santa Barbara. He's looking into it, being in Denver at the moment, and as soon as I hear from him I'll post further. My guess at the time was that the fairly draconian sign (which didn't just prohibit recording devices, it prohibited even still cameras, not just video cameras--so people used their phones a lot...) was boilerplate of the venue/Another Planet, and no one thought to make an issue of it and change it beforehand. But when I learn more I'll pass it along. Meanwhile, I guess the practical significance of this for those of you with tix on the tour is that you might do well to check the policy of the venue beforehand and if they're a problem, head over to phillesh.net and get in touch.
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Larry, Trey, John, John, John, John, Page, Jimmy, Warren, Steve, Mookie, Barry, Chris and probably many more! No he didn't replace Jerry but he sure as hell tired. I love you Phil. I can't wait to see you again. The Dude Abides!
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From the Phil folks: We are pleased to announce that on Saturday, July 21st, Phil Lesh & Friends will be performing at The Independent in San Francisco. Phil Lesh, Jackie Greene, Larry Campbell, John Molo, and Steve Molitz will be joined by special guest Barry Sless in what will be Phil Lesh & Friends’ first San Francisco appearance in over a year. Opening the show will be Vice, who will be performing an acoustic set to complete this exciting evening of music. Tickets will go on sale on Tuesday July 17th at 10AM PST and will be available at www.ticketweb.com. Tickets will also be available on Wednesday, July 18th through Phil Lesh Ticketing, visit <www.phillesh.net; to get additional information. Be sure to continue to visit Phil’s homepage for other exciting announcements in the coming weeks.
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Thanks marye! I can't make it but I'm really glad Phil is doing "IT" again, somewhere. I'll catch up with them eventually...... The Dude Abides!
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As I suspected it would, this one seems to have sold out in about a minute and a half.
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...shall we go, you and I while we can... Phil has announceda fall tour beginning in Santa Barbara, CA. and ending in NYC. Check the Philzone.com site for dates/venues and reviews of the Independent show.
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I'm eye balling two dates of this tour, which makes me very, very happy! The Dude Abides!
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A splendid time was had by all. The crowd was happy, vocal and into it..group mind...kindness and happiness all around. Little infant kid with hipster folks in row in front of me groovin on the scene. Dad bought him a tiny T shirt for his first show and they rocked all night. Phil was looking good in great form and voice. The band was tight and strong. Jackie Green zapped us with varied vocal stylings and perfect intonation. He's a virtuoso kid. Right on with vocals and guitar. Molo, Campbell and Moliitz were fine. The music soared and so did we. I read that Mark K. sat in on the Berkeley show. I would have loved to see that. SB Bowl is a great venue. Arriving in daylight with great ocean views and as the sun set and the show continued..the moon came busting through the clouds for a clear...bright night. The crowd went home happy. A fine kickoff for the tour.
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why did phil stop letting folks tape the shows???? i'm sure it is not so much phil, but the fab fellas at rhino. am i close??? nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
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there's no sign of shows from this tour. I'll go see if there's an official answer, but I'm pretty darn sure Rhino's got nothing to do with this particular situation. If I learn anything useful I'll report back.
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nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
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Inquiries are ongoing, but I got a response back from JC Juanis in the Phil camp. He says the no-taping thing is certainly news to him and that there was certainly taping going on in Santa Barbara. He's looking into it, being in Denver at the moment, and as soon as I hear from him I'll post further. My guess at the time was that the fairly draconian sign (which didn't just prohibit recording devices, it prohibited even still cameras, not just video cameras--so people used their phones a lot...) was boilerplate of the venue/Another Planet, and no one thought to make an issue of it and change it beforehand. But when I learn more I'll pass it along. Meanwhile, I guess the practical significance of this for those of you with tix on the tour is that you might do well to check the policy of the venue beforehand and if they're a problem, head over to phillesh.net and get in touch.
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Just heard back from JC again, after he'd talked to an actual taper. (JC has been rather mystified by the question to begin with, since he says no one else complained and Phil is passionate about getting the music out there, but said he'd look into it.) Bottom line: there WAS taping at the Greek; there was a taping section right behind the soundboard, much as in the olden days. Now true, there were scary signs at the entrances, but it would appear that tapers got their stuff through just fine. If you or someone you know had a different experience, please advise (or head over to phillesh.net and post the particulars, as I think they'd take a pretty lively interest in the matter). Thank you for raising the issue. JC and I haven't talked this much in years!
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i heard a rumor to that effect somewhere, but am glad to know the taping goes on. i should know better than to pay attention to the rumor mill. nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
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it's good that we were able to get the real story, which we wouldn't have if you hadn't raised the issue!
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...just to clarify (and not contradict), Phil and his web site does not provide downloads but rather links to the sites where fans upload shows for other fans to download via FTP, peer to peer, via third party software, which is usually free (complicated? sounds worse than reality). They do maintain a "store" of sorts, which sells their stuff and music, as well. Maintaining a site to provide download material is not easy and can contain much liability and expense. Bobby's site uses a 3rd party (with separate web site) for purchased downloads. I only point this out because my idea is that some folks here are under the wrong impression, regarding downloads, and where they really come from, either free or purchased. This comment contains no implication in regards to the ongoing arguments here at dead.net, pro or con, on the case now referred to as: Downloads (MP3's) - vs - Streaming; Tapers Section; Fans - vs - Fans - vs - Rhino - vs - Blackwater - vs - Freedom - vs - Profits - vs - Prophets. The Supreme Court is expected to hear arguments on accepting or rejecting arguments to allow the case to be presented for consideration but first must rule on arguments that any information contained in the case may present a threat to national security. Some insiders have indicated that The Court may first decriminalize marijuana so that they can get stoned (to-the-BeJesus) to relieve the mind numbing effects of having thousands of tie-dyed hippies, completely out of sync, argue for months, on the issue of which format is actually "Lossless" and more agreeable to current forms of home entertainment technology. We will report more as the facts are available. The Dude Abides!
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Can't seem to post to this thread (mods may delete as necessary - thx).... "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him."
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Part I Just to clarify (and not contradict), Phil and his web site does not provide downloads but rather links to the sites where fans upload shows for others to download via FTP, peer to peer, via third party software, which is usually free (complicated? sounds worse than is, in reality). They do maintain a "store", which sells their stuff and music, as well. Maintaining a site to provide download material is not easy and can contain much liability and expense, I'm told. Bobby's site uses a 3rd party (with separate web site) for purchased downloads. I only point this out because my idea is that some folks here are under the wrong impression, regarding downloads, and where they really come from, either free or purchased. "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him."
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I'm having no luck with the remainder of my post. WTF? "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him."
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there appears to be some difficulty with something in your previous posts triggering a spam filter or something. I'm working on disentangling the problem now. Stay tuned...
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I think I have restored GRTUD's original post and removed the rest (thanks, GR), but if you're seeing something different let me know. The spam filter has really been acting up lately; sorry for the trouble.
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You may delete GR's posts as well. I suspected that some filter was the problem but couldn't find the offensive text. Sorry to have caused any extra work, as you can see, just more of my shenanigans, nothing of real importance. Sorry for the trouble and thanks again. The Dude Abides!
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the spam filter has really been acting up lately and probably needs a few wellbeams of its own.
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Howdy folks...wow things have changed since the last time I was here :-) It seems a lot slower and dustier than a couple years back... Anyways, I am here in my not quite desperate yet search for any ticket to the Phil shows in Portland...I missed the mail order since I don't check it nearly as regularly these days and it sold out nearly immediately so by 1pm of the onsale day they were all gone... That said if anyone has a single extra or more I'd be extremely happy to take it off your hands! Gracias! chris chrisp1972@yahoo.com
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Was in my mailbox today, from a friend. What a treat!!! Didn't even know this book existed, to my chagrin, but on the other hand was a better suprise this way.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Searching for the Sound is a wonderful Book. I really enjoyed it. There's some really funky art & Grate Pictures. Tell us what you think when your finished with it, and I'll add my 2 cents. Don't want to give anything away PEACE
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From Other Stuff: 1st set Shakedown> Half Step> Big River Im so gone> Loose Lucy Cosmic Charlie Uncle John's Band 2nd Set Playin> Minglewood Scarlet> Sugaree Dark Star> China Cat> The Eleven (Jam only no vocals)> I Know You Rider> Playin Reprise Encore Brokedown Palace bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=633338979 Spanish Jam
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Phil's summer tour starts tomorrow!!!!!! See you in Columbus!
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69 years young and still carrying the torch. Thanks for keeping the flame burning with all the grate friends you have assembled over the year to brighten up our lives. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Happy Birthday Phil.....xoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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Happy Birthday to you....xoxoox Gypsy Cowgirl
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You're almost seventy, man, don't you think it's about time you got a real job? Cheers, MarkintheDark ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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You're the man Phil! Happy Birthday! "When the smoke has cleared she said, that's what she said to me. You're gonna want a bed to lay your head and a little sympathy"
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but hey, extended birthdays are okay...HBD!
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PhilI want to thank you for all of the amazing work and dedication you put into being the best bass player in the world. And this is from somebody (who in his day) watched Jaco 3-4 times a week. at the Lions Den in North Miami and the Brothers 2 lounge in Fort Lauderdale. Not only that but your book was very articulate you never cease to amaze me. And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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thanx phil 4 showing us all how it's done! peace chief sunrise
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Mr Phil Lesh – I have never written you before, and in all certainly never will do so again. I began listening to the Grateful Dead in 1984, immediately fell in love with the live performance (who couldn’t?), took up the bass, and was a passionate follower of the band and a devotee on the bass ever since. I am quite sure you will not care about what follows, but I am writing it anyway. Given how much of my soul and my life I have poured into it, it would be absurd to expect otherwise. You have communicated much to me over our lives, I know you are as set in your ways as I, certainly this is a one-way message that will irritate you before you get much further. So to speak. As of tonight, I have decided, the last 25 years of my life have been nothing short of a colossal mistake. As deeply as I have loved that band and the music, I am so utterly disappointed and discouraged at your turning the Grateful Dead into an organ of Statism and tyranny, indeed, proudly so, that I am seriously questioning my entire history of life choices right now. Although there are a variety of issues I have had with how you have treated certain things over the years, I have always tried to err on the side of cutting slack and forgiveness . Everyone makes mistakes, after all, certainly me as much as anyone. Why expect perfection from mere mortals, particularly those who obviously have had so much amazing good to give? But this is no trifling matter. And although I have always known many in the band (with supposedly an exception of Garcia, although obviously you would know the actuality there far better than I) to be Leftists, I would never, up until a few months ago, have been able to imagine the sheer degre to which they would allow themselves, and the band’s name, and by extension the Deadheads themselves, to become nakedly utilized for the expansions of government power, regulation, control of the economy, law-making, hypocrisy, and use of power as advanced by modern-day Statist Democrats. To say that this willful conversion from what used to be a tolerant, freedom-loving phenomenon into what it is shocks me is an understatement. That my own personal tendency toward Libertarianism came from such nurturing is, at the moment, a cause of great sadness and insecurity on my behalf. But that is not your problem, I know, it is mine. All of this is, of course, my problem, not yours. There is no sharing of disappointment, of letdown, of years wasted, in the egalitarian manner held in such sacred regard by your ideology. This is, of course, personal. And deeply so. When various friends of mine began throwing out entire tape and CD collections of yours last fall, when “the Dead” threw themselves full-force into an election campaign between two horrendous, appalling candidates…well…let’s just say that the temptation was resisted. I mean, heck, everyone I knew – other than me – felt that this was a moment of great choice, a decision to be regarded for generations, and such. So while I found your behavior to be consistent with the recently annoying (and to my eyes juvenile) behavior recently displayed in completely unrelated ways, I didn’t exactly throw my DVDs on the fire. Nor, of course, my bass guitar, an expensive, hand-crafted beauty, which people of all stripes had raved about over the years because it was completely self-evident at what a masterpiece it (not it’s player) was. When the jokes about what a bunch of tools the Deadheads had become, I certainly didn’t resist, because after fiascoes of seeming con-artistry such as the Terrapin Station Project, I wasn’t prepared to argue. Years since Jerry died went by. Bob Weir increasingly turned into a neo-Jerry (only aesthetically, of course), which was/is stranger than any Mind Left Body jam. But then there is the last several weeks. Playing at the inaugural political ball for a bunch of tyrannical statists. Hosting the founder of the PMRC, Tipper Gore, as a drummer. Meeting with the Obam Administration itself, for goodness sake. It is too much. I have made a huge mistake with my life. I am pathetic. When jokes about people saying if they had known this about you guys back in the 80’s and 90’s, they would have become lawyers or corporate middle managers by now came out, I laugh now, sure, but I also cry. I thought you guys believed in freedom enough to not become part of the machinery of tyranny. I was obviously greatly mistaken. Just this night, I have joined the increasing numbers of your ex-fans who have discarded every single item of your music and references to you…except of course for my hand-signed Jerry photo. I am quitting the bass guitar, to sell to some non-Deadhead, and throwing away huge parts of my spiritual existence. And I regret everything – everything – that has ever happened in my life that involved the Grateful Dead, with the singular exception of watching Jerry Garcia smile at me during Estimated Prophet. I know you do not care, I suppose I should not either. It was my mistake to have done so for so long. Goodbye, Joel
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Dude, you've been playing bass for 25 years and are gonna quit? Don't do it man ! It's about the music man. Just cause the Dead don't sit around and pick their noses when they're not playing it's not the end of the world. Do Obama and Tipper make you that mad? Take a chill pill bro and mellow out. Good luck and God bless.
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You were in the movie, "Ghostbusters" weren't you? Well never mind that, just stay in touch so we can get that sample of brain tissue you promised us, at some point in time. Oh and if you're serious about giving up playing guitar because of politics (of any kind... for any reason), I would consider that the biggest mistake you've made (yet) in your life. Key Master (pic from geeksofdoom.com) "The task is, not so much to see what no one has yet seen; but to think what nobody has yet thought, about that which everybody sees." - Erwin Schrödinger
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Okay, I just want to say how beautiful it is to see this group of ageing venturers reliving parts of their past, making it new, and sharing that creativity and zest for life with the rest of us. Phil, you are certainly holding not just the low end, but the vision - your archival sense and perspective on this great catalogue of music which we call the Dead make this ambitious retrospective tour happen. You are not just dusting off old relics, you've been oiling and winding them and keeping them tuned for years in your own projects, taking responsibility for their survival. And we have been privileged to hear them anew in a fun, successful ensemble. Thank you, Phil! You are a trooper. A psychedelic music pioneer - we can't thank you enough. Keep initiating, keep singing, and keep smiling. See you at ROTHBURY! With much LOVE, Kirsten
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I KNOW Dancing Singing Girl was therePlease fill in the details of the event!! And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Phil I saw you live for only the second time at the Further show in Miami. You are the God of Bass. Glad you are playing and having fun. Thanks so much for the dedication and great music! Bob And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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You have kept the music alive and fresh and always new. The way you have explored your own path is an inspiration to me as I explore mine. And like you I will never stop searching for the sound. Thanks If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Thanks for the steady hands and strong grove for all these years.-NBT
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Happy Birthday Phil. The San Fran show was fun and it was really long and they played un-real songs the set list is amazing buuuut the downer to me was that John did not sing lead on any of the songs. What's up with that? I understand if it is a Phil and Friends show but for Furthur when you have John standing right there - please let him sing! I drove a long way to not see my boy John sing :-( "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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& thank you. What a trip.