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    marye
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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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  • UncleJon
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    Well said Cosmic! After all the years of trying to get the highest generation tapes it is so amazing that we can now get the original recordings at the same quality as a first generation tape, all in the blink of an eye. Everyone, please don't convert back and forth from FLAC/WAV to MP3 and back again unless it is solely for your own personal use. When you do convertback and forth what goes missing is the high and low end range of the music. MP3 essentially chops off half the sound so it can compress the files and fit them onto your ipod, etc. The hardcore traders can analyze this and see that the dynamic range has been cut off. The reason all this works is because as we get older we lose the ability to hear some of that range, but simply put, the music isn't as pure as the day it was played anymore - you are only robbing yourself! I'm not trying to be a taper snob, I have been known to use MP3 to burn discs for long road trips, etc. Much easier to manage. But, when at home, it is FLAC all the way... "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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    I don`t trade mp3 , just use it for my own personal . I prefer to store everything in shn/flac.(if it comes that way) plus shn/flac takes up less space on the old hard drive . Thank you for the imfo CB . Thank you too Hal .
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    you can have WAV discs with itunes
    Click Edit, then preferences, , then advanced, then importing, then on import using you can set on WAV encoder. I use Traders Litlle Helper and then burn discs using this method, also make sure and set for no gaps between songs. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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    If you get sent wav files on CD and want to make CD copies there is absolutely no need to convert them to MP3s and then back to wavs.There are plenty of programmes (such as EAC) that will just let you rip the files and then reburn them directly as wavs. The trading community strongly discourages (to say the least) converting wavs or flacs to MP3 and then converting back to wav and other formats. Why? Because people have gone to all the trouble to unearth and prepare digital copies of all these shows and to distribute them so that every copy is the same quality as the original (using lossless formats such as wav or flac). If you convert these to MP3s for your ipod that is fine, but there will be some loss of quality. If you then covert them back to wav (or flac) you lose even more quality. If you then trade those copies you are putting inferior quality versions of shows back into circulation. Having finally got the means to avoid the loss of quality across generations, we should all try to use it. Indeed the trading community also tries to discourage seeding shows saved as wavs. Ideally all trading would be from flac to flac. Similarly if you receive flacs you can either -copy the flacs to your hdd and play them using programme like foobar2000 -Convert them to wavs using traders little helper and then burn them onto CDs -Convert them to MP3s for use on ipods etc....but these should not be traded. It is best to keep a copy of the flacs to use for trading and as a back up. Then if you lose any shows you have an original quality back up standing by. You can see a better and brief explanation of this here http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/faq.php?faq=audio or visit the various forums in etree
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    i agree....
    for collection purposes I prefer FLAC but I always convert another copy to mp3 so i can load up a fatty disc chock full of dank shows and just groove all day without breaking the flow of energy by changing discs....kills the bzzzzzzzzzzz "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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    I hav`nt noticed difference
    in quality of sound . in fact I have some cd`s burned in data format where i have numerous shows burned on one disc .I used both windows media and i-tunes for that. one disc plays for hours, but only on my computer.mp3 discs only seem to play in select newer cd players.data discs only on the computer. but hey it sounds grate to my old ears . peace..
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    I recommend...
    switch sound file converter trader'slittle helper FLAC Frontend "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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    The reason I ask
    Is because when I get an audio CD vine, the easiest thing to do is rip it to iTunes. But you know, it then is converted to mp3. So I was wondering if folks then go through the hassle to convert back to wav when you want to burn yourself a CD? I actually do not like iTunes' CD burner so I use a different program. Anyways just thought I'd see what you all do out there in vine land.... "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
  • JackstrawfromC…
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    I tried TLH
    It said that it gave errors but it looks (sounds) like it worked to me?? I always wondered what the difference was between burning wav vs mp3 onto a CD?? I was under the impression that wav sounded better than mp3 (on a CD anyways)... but I am really not hearing a difference.. "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
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    Have you try`d traders little helper ? I know I can convert wav to mp3 , that fits an entire show on one disc that way .
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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I felt kinda groovy after listening to the 12/6/73 China; whereas with the 2/24/74 China, I had to put myself back together, so it must have been MLB. I'll continue researching this weekend.
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J have two tickets for tonights show. Face value $65 will meet at venue.2035256760
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They're good seats- 101 row s
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Does anyone have the SHN/FLAC files for 8/5/74, just the tracks NOT included on DP # 31? I have the omitted tracks for 8/4 and 8/6 and would like to vine the whole thing.
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Does anyone know whats going on with both YMSB vines ?
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OK, so this has nothing to do with the Vineyard, but I thought it was cool. There is this theoritical stuff in the universe called "dark matter." Scientists believe it exists because there is too much gravity in galaxies to be attributed to common visible matter. Any way, they now theorize that there are stars made up of the stuff spewing energy. When the time came to give these stars a name, "Dark Stars" won out in homage to the Grateful Dead, and to a lesser extent CSN. Pretty cool. In case your interested, here is a link to an article I read: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/091221-mm-dark-stars.html?utm_sou… "That path is for, your steps alone."
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Dark star crashes, pouring its light into ashesReason tatters, the forces tear loose from the axis Searchlight casting for faults in the clouds of delusion....
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Any vine in my mailbox today should go out tomorrow. Otherwise, I will be away on Christmas adventures and escapades until Jan 4. So anything that shows up after tomorrow will go out first week of the new year.
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this topic IS sticky. Functionally this means it goes to the top of the heap in the Vineyard, from what I can tell, but it only applies within the directory.
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but have any of you had the chance to get The Jerry Garcia Collection, Vol. 2: Jerry Garcia Band, Keystone Berkeley '75? I have been listening to it all day and it keeps getting better. The "Let it Rock" that appears on it is a little slower than usual, but crystal clear. A good copy of this song is hard to find too. Anyway it's great, I recommend it.
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I wasn't talking about this topic, it was the Vine Re-seed Request topic. I thought it might get more action if it was easier to spot.Glad you're back ! -Tommo
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well, I think I can do that... Lemme look.
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Hey all, I'm heading to San Fran here in a bit and will be back this weekend. I will try to take care of any vines that come my way by early next week. To make matters more difficult, I've been having computer issues and may need to fix this thing when I get back. Will be in touch. Have a grate New Years everybody! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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with the new decade upon us, I figure we're about due for a new New Vines topic. I figure I will just copy over the header info from the 2009 topic. If anyone things this is a bad idea speak up now!
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This is the first time I have compiled a list of everything that I have. It took me a few days of typing (pecking really). I deleted around 900 gigabytes of music that I was more or less "archiving" and never listed to. I haven't got around to making a list for the Grateful Dead or Jerry Garcia Band yet,(maybe next Christmas vacation) but this is pretty much every other band that I collect. I have already sent it to a couple of you that I trade with, if any one else want to see it PM me I will send it to you.
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Dude that is one huge list man !! I keep telling myself that I`ll get my list together , haha . I just got another 1TB hard drive today and seeing this list kinda inspires me to seriousley work on my list now . and finally get organized ! Thank you Lopezz !!
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You can build a list of the contents of a drive in a few short key strokes.1. Open a command prompt (CMD) 2. change to the drive you want to list C:\Users\Rick>g; 3. Type in dir /b /s /a:d >show.txt (you may call it what ever you wish) This will create a text file in the G drive called show.txt if you would like an Excel file use the .xls extension. More in-depth explanations found here www.computerhope.com/dirhlp.htm Here is an example of the code I use - C:\Users\Rick>g: G:\>dir /b /s /a:d >show.txt G:\> Happy New Year Everyone, Peace Rick
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Luckily I started mine right after I got started with this whole wonderfull thing. If anyone would like me to send you mine let me know. I really need a TB harddrive. I work with this 80gig one on my laptop, and burn everything to cd, which I would probably still do, but I'd like to start keeping all of the lossless files. Btw marye a new "new vines" section sounds like a great idea. The 2009 one is getting pretty big. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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I just discovered 2 trojans ,Trojan:java/selace.L , Trojan:java/selace.K and Exploit:java/CVE-2008-5353.C . Anyone know anything about this ? I know this come from tapecity because it is the only site i used this past two day`s .
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Rumor from other boards is that the boys over at PlanetRock were fighting a pretty nasty trojan a day or two ago. Never have been to ether place myself but do a deep scan every couple of days to keep yourself bug free.Peace Rick
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My virus scanner picked up on it as soon as the web page would open. I didn't even have to download anything. My scanner always stoped it before it got into my system though.
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Is anybody else as freaked out as I am about how fast time is flying by? happy new year to all. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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yea pomo, I just realized I`ve been here 2 years and 6 weeks . seems like only yesturday I had the KFFM vine . my very first vine and first time with shn/flac . am now working on my third HD and I don`t know how many dvd`s of video and shn/flac . wow man.. "remember when you where young you shined like the sun...shine on you crazy diamond"
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I may not be here and not have what i do have if it was`nt for Bob aka Sunshinedaydream . Thank you Bob !! wherever you are . Hope you are well . And happy new year to everyone!
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Especially in the direction of the flac files being traded here. I think we have grown quite a nice library of music to choose from. I am surprised the membership has stayed so small. There are some sites that have hundreds of people trading and half the music that we do. I am thankful to be a part of it.
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Hey Rick!! That little bit of code you gave saved me COUNTLESS hours of list building!!! I appreciate it greatly!! Happy New Year to all... and thanks for all of the work that keeps this Vineyard thriving! Raymond
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and i got home to realize i have one spindle of dvd-r and a spindle of dvd+r , does anyone know what the difference is between the two ? I`ve been using +R`s but have no idea if I should take these back or go ahead and use the -R`s . any advise ? Thanks , Stu ..
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I find DVD+R's work better in DVD players if your making movies. I think they both work good for file storage though.
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I think the DVD-R's spin counterclockwise.
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Does anyone have any Joe Walsh or Three Dog Night live shows?
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I am finishing up listening to spring and summer 79 and will vine the "best of" those tours soon. I still have to listen to a bunch of the 1980 acoustic shows, and will vine those sometime in the next month or two. And I recently acquired the rest of 1970, just about everything after 9/20, and will probably vine the whole thing. Hope everyone had a joyful holiday season and here's to another great year in the vineyard!
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Sunshine Daydream Bob is alive and well in Spain and still hoping some incarnation of the Dead or offshoot would make it to Europe. I'll give him a big hello and thank you from you. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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It`s nice to know Bob is doing well , oh and you helped me convert that first vine so Thanks going out to you too !
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Man, it is cold here. Cold........I can't wait for spring
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And I`m further south then you EDAD . My banana trees are hating life right now !!
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I sat outside for the Jets game Sunday night and really froze my you-know-what off! It was worth it though. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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Sorry - I'm still bitter after watching the wheels fall off of my Broncos cart! Unfortunately the Chargers are going to be extremely hard to defeat and are the team to beat in the AFC. Oh yeah - and its colder than crap here too. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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I think I have some JW - might only be one show - I'll start looking around. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Tiger Lilly mentioned David Bowie sharing the same birthdate as the late Elvis Presley: Happy #63, David! In his honour, are there any sources of bootleg Bowie out in Dead Head land?Listening to "Heroes" this morning while enjoying the crispy, snow-caked -2 weather in Kansas. David's first USA performance was Sept 22, 1972 at Music Hall, in Cleveland Ohio, home of the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame! I have seen Bowie perform, once, at Starlight Theater in KC. He is a remarkable entertainer, nearly as rambunctious as Mick Jagger.
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Bowie and Stevie 1983 RehearsalDavid Bowie-1971 Outtakes 1972 10 20 Santa Monica 1974-09-05 Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles 1976-03-23 The Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY 1990-08-05 Milton Keynes Bowl, Milton Keynes 1995-11-15 Open The Dog Coca-Cola Planet Live 50th Birthday Bash Pre-FM The Ziggy Stardust Japan Tour 10th April 1973 Unplugged Ziggy’s Final Farewell 1973 London 1973-10-18-20 Italian Toilet 17th April 1990 Legendary lost tapes1972-73 The Complete Arnold Corns Sessions The Dublin Promo 2003 Absolutely Rare Giorgio Moroder, David Bowie-Cat People OST 1982 Sound & Vision
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DAVID BOWIE BOSTON MUSIC HALL BOSTON, MA (USA) NOVEMBER 15, 1974 David Bowie and Stevie Ray Vaughn Las Colinas (Dallas), Texas, USA April 27, 1983 DAVID BOWIE BOSTON MUSIC HALL BOSTON, MA JULY 16, 1974
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Can anyone get me a few more '94 and '95 shows or start a vine. I can contribute 4/1/94 to a new vine.
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After about page 5! I have at least 4 vines on my to-receive-list that I am sure are dead. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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Northern New England wish vine has several.... I too have little but below is what I have ....not sure what has been vined and what hasn't in those years.... I can start a vine and put you first.... I don't recall if Northern New England vine was FLAC or not.... R. gd94-03-21 NorthernNewEnglandWishVine gd94-03-21.sbd.ladner.6258.sbeok.shnf gd94-10-01 NorthernNewEnglandWishVine gd94-10-01.dmtx.seamons.ht27.95066.flac16 gd94-10-02 NorthernNewEnglandWishVine gd94-10-10 NorthernNewEnglandWishVine gd94-10-11.sbd.miller.34564.sbeok.flac16 gd94-10-14 NorthernNewEnglandWishVine gd94-12-16.set2.dmtx.hansokolow.100297.flac16 gd95-02-21.dsbd.stephens.8840.sbeok.shnf gd95-06-15.sbd.hiroki.35212.sbeok.flac16 gd95-06-21 NorthernNewEnglandWishVine gd95-07-09.sbd.jason.7233.shnf
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I have this vine and it is waiting for a taker! There are flac files included but there are also all the shows on CD-R's (18 total!) which kind of sucks but oh well. It looks like it costs over 5 bucks to mail it! Let me know if you want it! I'll keep eyes open for some more 94 95 shows. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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Hey all...Just leafing through this week's Sports Illustrated magazine (Jan 25th) and noticed a piece written on Jim Irsay, the owner of the Indianapolis Colts.... I was interested in the article for many reasons.... none of which I guess I need to go into here.... but right there on Page 57 in the picture with Irsay is Jerry's Tiger. I remember that Irsay bought it many years ago... among many other interesting purchases... the guitar is not mentioned in the article but Stephen Stills and other references are made.... Thought you might find that curious.... I did. Be well all. Raymond